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@356 like they're all standing together now? Cowards, the lot of you
@350"@345 having worked in Jap through many a typhoon season (Aug-Sep BTW) I can assure you that predictions of where a typhoon will land change by the hour. My point is that it is totally impossible to plan in advance"Absolute rubbishI worked/lived in Tokyo during my late 20s for 3yrs & travel around a dozen times a yr. The forecasting models are & were accurate for this cyclonic typhoon
@355 Everyone, including the SRU, realises it was the worst storm in decades, and how tragic it was.This has nothing to do with the disaster, and everything to do with WR failing to implement the plans they said were in place.If it were NZ needing to win their last game, something would have been done. And if you have a problem with that last statement, take it up with Sergio.
@351 or option 3, Scotland and the other home nation's agree together to stand firm and refuse to sign unless those plans are acceptable, world rugby goes oh we can't have a world cup without them let's do something. Just because you the smaller party doesn't mean you have to roll over and take it then cry afterwards.
@352 never said it was robust, the rules clearly stated what would happen if games were called off, they also stated alternative arrangements could be made if possible. You do realise it was the worst storm in decades that killed dozens of people. Scotland signed so stop crying.
Scotland were just pointing out shortcomings of the World Cup organisers.It was the lack of a plan B that brought the sport into disrepute. Not Scotland.You could never see this happening in football. Er sorry (Brazil, Germany, etc), you have to go home as we cancelling your last group game and not rescheduling it.Rugby may have gone professional but it still has an amateur mindset.
Send them 2 letters, the first saying that they apologise.. But don't sign it. The second saying the first is a lot of rubbish and get to f...
348. Posted by neilkd21Brilliant, so you have a copy of the contract that describes what the robust contingency plan was? Can you post it please? Nope, didnt think so, you are making it up just like World Rugby did.
@348 you've obviously never been the smaller party in a contract negotiation. Scotland, and everyone else for that matter, had two options:1. Sign the contract, its OK we've got robust contingency plans in place2. Don't sign. And don't play.If you don't realise this, you're a tool.
@345 having worked in Japan through many a typhoon season (Aug -Sept BTW) I can assure you that predictions of where a typhoon will land change by the hour. My point is that it is totally impossible to plan in advance for such a powerful typhoon. Where do you put the alternative location if you cant be certain where the typhoon will land?
@339"@330 you do realise typhoons are unpredictable & can change course quickly.Today's weather forecasting tools predicted that the whole of Japan was at risk"That is a total lie & utter fabrication, give us proof of your sweeping statement?. Forecasting models are are pretty accurate -/+ 50 miles & at its widest it was 800-830m offshore but significantly narrower when it hit Honshu/Tokyo
@347 well the unions read and signed the contract, it was clearly stated what the procedures and contingency plan was. They never questioned it before signing and agreeing to it. Anyway the game went ahead, Scotland got spanked and went home early, just say sorry pay up and shut up. You saved some money going home early so can afford it.
So when one business (WR) sign a contract with other businesses (each union) saying they have a robust contingency plan but it turns out they dont, whats wrong with mentioning legal action? WR like to have their own way and not questioned. In 1995 Beaumont tried to stare down our club chairman and blocked a doorway to stop him leaving because he didnt agree with him. Unaccountable bullies
WR's rules for QFs, SFs and final were that matches would be played no matter what. In such an event this would only be possible by rescheduling to a later date. No problems with reduced turnarounds, after all there were shorter turnarounds during group phases.The same could have applied to the last round of group matches and with some flexibility the affected games could have been rescheduled
344 that’s just simply an incorrect oversimplification. Not only possible but relatively easy.
Read a few comments and got the impression that the discussion was about a game that was cancelled. Then realised the discussion was about the lack of contingency plans for game that actually took place! With due respect to those that believe you can make a continency for a typhoon of this scale that could (and usually does) change course very frequently, you are totally brain dead.
@333 So not only speaking for the Scottish nation, then the Welsh nation now speaking for the Japanese nation?!Strange that the Community Foundation Officer from our Nat 1 club was also in Japan and said the Japanese fans she was with were distressed by the Scottish officials attitude.
there was no contingency plans ,World rugby hoped everything went ok but it didn't make mess of it big time
332 FedtheFearsome.The tone used by the SRU did not help. But Contingency plans should have been in place. There is no valid reason why it shouldn't have been. The aftermath of the Typhoon as sad and cruel as it was, is a separate issue. The SRU frustration was with the tournament organizers, no one els. Do not confuse the two because they are two separate issues.
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