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@421 No one in the NH has a claim to being the best right now as all are so even just so happens Wales have won back to back trophies so surely in terms of NH teams playing each other in a pressurised tournament Wales have a slight edgeLike I said though wouldn't say any of the NH top 4 (Ire Eng Fra Wal) are significantly better than the other an all are capable of big wins against each other
@421.BlowTheWhistle......but they diminate YOU and that's the fact that you can't handle. Boo-hoo.
This is all a ploy a conspiracy a smoke screen... the English are tricking everyone in to getting out of playing in any competition in 2015 so they will have all of their players fit and ready for RWC15, I'm telling you it's a master stroke and the biggest smoke screen EVER!PS: Is there any truth in Ospreys and Cardiff merging and becoming the New OC? There could be a reality programme about it!
416Largest representation in the Lions was due to having the Wales coach picking the squad.France made the final in the 2011 WC > Wales SFIreland beat Wales in Cardiff this year.Wales current claim to be NH best is based on one game against England.They are hardly some dominant force.
@419 If they had a leg to stand on they would break away, what do they gain from staying in the same system they said they would not go back to?Fact is English and French clubs need Euro money as much as Wales for example (think Italy & Scot need it more)The Eng money men won't have to fund £2m a season till this is sorted and same with the WRUThere will be slight changes but nothing drastic
417 I'm not so sure,see this below from Sky.Beyond 2014-15, however, LNR is seeking the introduction of an alternative competition overseen by a new body that will maximise the commercial interests of its clubs.
@416 And what you are talking about is history! Right now we don't know who the best team is as they're not playing each other for another 3 months. What happened in the last 6 nations is pretty much irrelevant!@417 I personally hope that the money men don't receive anything, however, I feel qualification for the tournament needs to be changed.
@415 That still leaves 10 teams who voted forThere is no argument about the distribution of money nor qualification, Qualification is something the Rabo teams want to bring it to make it more competitive, just don't want distribution to be as 1 sided but towards the wealthier clubs in EuropeThe common sense victory is that the money men won't get their hands on RU it remains with the Unions!
@414.BlowTheWhistleBack to back Championships, a WC semi-final slot, the largest representation in The Lion's tour and their beating England 3 times in the 2 teams' last 4 meetings would suggest the Wales are better than Enland right now. As for the rest of your points, who cares? It's all ancient history.
JW Is it as simple as that ? The French Top 14 clubs have agreed to play in next season's Heineken Cup providing the structure is brought in which would see a different qualification process and distribution of wealth. Plus reports suggest the French RU has given them a hefty sweetener. 4 clubs still voted against it.
408 - Who cares about one year later367 is disputing that there has ever been a time where England have been better than NZ .Beating NZ home and away (England with 13 on the pitch and still NZ couldnt score) and winning a WC in the SH is enough evidence to support the rankings that there was a time they were better.Wales' claim to be the best team in the NH is based on far less.
A lot of English fans who posted on here who were saying Celtic rugby was dead and they had no choice but to follow the English money men all I can say is hahaha common sense has prevailed and the fat pockets of the English, yes English (Toulon etc want the HCup still) owners will not grow at the expense of Italian and Scottish development, this is a great move towards the NH getting stronger
A Qoute from McCafferty."If we can see there is a new structure to replace ERC and we have the detail of that, then something might be feasible. At the moment it's all very general and difficult to comment on."Amazing from someone who gave ABSOLUTELY NO details about the RCC, Nada, Zilch. No named teams, no financial breakdown nothing. What a M****t!!!
403 "English fans keep saying they beat all the SH teams between 01-03" . It's true End did, 12 times in a row incl 5 in the southern hemisphere, and won the world cup ! What more were they supposed to do during that period ?
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