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Why are people saying bring back Hook? Once he was on that was the last we saw of Scott Williams and the two wingers. he's increadably selfish. Ashley Beck, if he were not injured, would have been better. Tipuric has to start. Knoyle did very well to be fair and Jarvis was excellent. Teams have bad days, dont panic.
It was an awful performance, there are few positives (Jarvis debut, Toby F).Lets at least agree on what went wrong:1. Line out is regressing back to the disaster of 2-3 yrs ago. The problem is obvious, Wales have 2 jumpers, opposition 3 or 4. 2. Backs have no penetration it is all crash stuff.3. Forwards are not doing enough variety in driving play.
@237 HamishIt is often the case that idiots describe themselves as 'genious' but are ironically ignorant to the fact that the word is spelt 'genius' - much to the amusement of us intelligent people.
Why the surprise at the way Wales played. During and since the WC Wales have been in a position to win 4 matches against SH sides with just a few minutes left to play and managed to throw away the wins. Lack of mental hardness? The various comments about off-form players are relevant as is the shambles that is regional rugby. sad to see once great players struggling. Ignore the BBS Wales hype.
Why has this loss been viewed as an upset? Wales haven't played international rugby for months, and their players have clearly not had enough time to train together recently. Everyone's forgetting that Argentina had 6 tough tests this summer against NZ, Aus and SA. Although they expectedly lost to a good NZ team, they very narrowly lost to Aus twice and drew with SA at home.Not an 'upset'.
It's amazing how quick people are to criticise. @237 Wales haven't had many poor performances in last 5 yrs. Not sure you can say Wales have been an illusion. They've prob played the most exciting, attacking rugby of all the 6 nations countries over the past few years. They have the quality just need to get the right selection. As for the wooden spoon, bit early for those predictions!
Agree with your comments on Pumas though H, they play a very good support game and what grafters-tireless for 80 mins. They will be a match for any of the home nations (MHO).
237 a little harsh Hamish??There's no illusion in mho -just 30 blokes knocking each other into next week and a fine line from a good and bad day. Perhaps it's just down to who's the hungriest on the day and I saw a hungry Scotland yesterday, but the All Blacks do everything so well,they have few weaknesses to exploit, are ferocious in the breakdown - their support play is second to none again MHO
2 things were demonstrated over the course of 80 minutes on saturday. 1. Just how far Argentina have come in the last 5 years; 2. Just how much an illusion Wales have been over the last 5 years. Its between the Welsh and Scotland for the 6 Nations 'Wooden Spoon'; and considering Scotland can actually score tries, it doesn't take a genious to work out who it's going to be...
Another performance that shows the progress the Pumas have made over the past few years. Always had a massive scrum and now looking like their backs are getting it together. Being involved in the championship playing the big boys has really helped. Argentina are here to stay. As for Wales, I think selection could have been better and maybe they slightly underestimated the Pumas.They'll bounce back
Was it not blindingly obvious the Pumas would cause Wales problems? Their scrummaging is superior, their running and aggression was superb. Wales are really going to struggle this Autumn
Having watched NZ and Carter yesterday - I thought DC was poor when he missed the kick in the first half. Problem was he walked on water for the rest of the match. The rest of the team were'nt too bad either! If we stop them scoring 50 points against us it will be a result - their speed of ball movement and their intensity was stunning and I thought Scotland played well!
@232 - great post.
I forgot the match this morning when I saw the joy of the mini rugby team spilling out across the park with ball in hand,learning to pass and beat their opponents,before standing hand in hand with my little lad and his friends on the pitch for a minutes silence.Ah the joy and passion the game brings, the highs lows and a minutes reflection on what's important and what can wait ..at least for now.
Looks as though Argentina are here to stay as a force in Rugby Union. They've always been good in the scrum, now they know how to be clinical in the backs.Well done Pumas !
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