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Summary

  1. Messi punishes poor City defending for all 3 Barca goals
  2. Bravo sent off for handball outside the box
  3. Neymar misses penalty but scores late on
  4. Ozil scores hat-trick for Arsenal
  5. Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Sanchez also score

Live Reporting

By Mike Henson

All times stated are UK

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  1. Over and out

    Rightio, three lop-sided scorelines.

    Manchester City are still some way short of emulating Barcelona legacy-builders.

    Arsenal hit six as they make it seven wins on the trot.

    And Celtic still have some way to go to mix it with the biggest boys.

    Thanks for your company, see you later.

  2. Post update

    Arsenal 6-0 Ludogorets

  3. Post update

    Barcelona 4-0 Man City

    Phil Neville

    Former Manchester United defender at the Nou Camp for BBC Radio 5 live

    We have seen what Pep Guardiola is going to do. They were fantastic against Everton on Saturday and should have won the game three or four goals to one.

    He is taking City down a road which will improve them and City fans have to accept there will be performances like this where they will be punished for trying to play the Guardiola way.

    After 50 minutes I was impressed with the tactics and how they were overloading the midfield and the game was there to be won but they were punished for sloppy errors.

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    Barcelona 4-0 Man City

  5. Gloat mode on

    Celtic 0-2 Borussia Monchengladbach

    Touche.

    A Glasgow pub advertising coverage of Borussia Monchengladbach's match against Celtic gave up on spelling the visitors' team name on their blackboard and just went for 'a German team'.

    Monchengladbach changed their Twitter name to 'a German team', but are now in full gloat mode.

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  6. 'Till my last day as coach I will play from the goalkeeper'

    Barcelona 4-0 Man City

    If you want to get rid of Manchester City's build-from-the-back policy, it sounds like you are going to have to get rid of the manager.

    It is a non-negotiable for Pep Guardiola.

    It puts a whole heap of stress on his goalkeeper and centre-halves though. And makes for a whole lot of high-wire moments for the neutral to enjoy.

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    Barcelona 4-0 Man City

    Phil Neville

    Former Manchester United defender at the Nou Camp for BBC Radio 5 live

    I am not sure on Claudio Bravo, the jury is still out and that is the problem.

    From an English supporters point of view we have got Joe Hart who is number one and he has been loaned out for this lad to come in for the style of football. Yes Bravo has got more quality with this feet but he makes mistakes.

    But he is going to make mistakes. It is something City fans will have to accept.

  8. 'We were in the game'

    Barcelona 4-0 Man City

    Manchester City

    Pep Guardiola

    Pep Guardiola on BT Sport: On Claudio Bravo's red card: "I spoke with him, he was disappointed but it's part of the game.

    "At that level it is hard, but until 10 against 11 it was open and we were competing against a team with a big personality. But after the card it was over. But every game since Celtic has been the same, against Everton it was the same with an own goal and two missed penalties. We need to change the atmosphere.

    "We were there, we were in the game. We were pressing, we had the possession and we made the chances. We did it but we didn't take the chances and you have to do that to win the game  

    "We knew from the beginning it would be a tough group, now we have to focus on Southampton."

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    Sandeepmander: Stones is terrible! As a toffee, I hated it when he played. Full of mistakes. Now he has gone,we have one of the best defences!

    Viv: On Arsenal's win, it was a great one! But on the other hand, they were playing a lower ranked team (no offense 2 Ludogorets).

  10. Group C standings

    Manchester City could easily be in third spot in Group C after the next round of matches.

    On Tuesday 1 November, Barca travel to City. If the Catalans win and Borussia Monchengladbach do a job at home to Celtic, the Germans will leapfrog them in the standings.

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  11. The Premier League Show

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    Want more football?

    Good, The Premier League Show has just started on BBC Two, and here.

    The show includes an interview with Crystal Palace manager Alan Pardew who says Newcastle took the "wrong" direction when he was manager and much more.

  12. City hard done by?

    Barcelona 4-0 Man City

    Manchester City had 47% possession and made a fair few raids up into the Barca box.

    Four-nil was a bit of an unfair scoreline from their evening's work, but they did not force many nervy moments for Marc-Andre ter Stegen.

    Match stats
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    Raheem Sterling

    Tom in Swansea: Sterling was phenomenal this game despite the scoreline, everytime he's on the ball he drags city forward. Different player this season. 

    Anonymous: City bashing premature. They're playing the best team in the world and were excellent til the red card.

    Terry Karselis: Pep Guardiola GO HOME ! Bring back Hart, Toure & Nasri. At least they knew how to play together 

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    Barcelona 4-0 Man City

    Phil Neville

    Former Manchester United defender at the Nou Camp for BBC Radio 5 live

    Many teams will come here and get beat but the Manchester CIty players were giving the ball away not following the instructions of Guardiola.

    He wants more composure and will realise City have still got a way to go. 

    There are better teams in Europe than Barcelona this season but they were far better than Manchester City.

  15. Confidence and vigilance

    Arsenal 6-0 Ludogorets

    Arsenal

    Wenger

    Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger, speaking to BT Sport: "Our confidence is stronger with every win but we have to keep the vigilance as well, and the urgency to bring that into the next game. 

    "Let's not be too quick on the verdict. We have a strong squad and a strong spirit, but you have to take care of it and keep your feet on the ground. The only way to win something big is to focus on the next one and work on humility."

  16. Elsewhere in Europe

    Robben and Mueller

    Arjen Robben scored a fourth goal for Bayern Munich late in the game against PSV to seal a 4-1 win.

    PSG won 3-0 against Basel and Atletico Madrid beat Rostov 1-0 away in Russia.

    There was a shock in Italy as Napoli dropped their first points of the campaign losing 3-2 at home to a late Vincent Aboubakar goal for Besiktas.

    In the same group, Benfica beat Dynamo Kiev 2-0.

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    Lucas in London: Another game that shows how far behind the Prems top sides are from Barca, Real, Atletico and bayern

    Al in Manchester: Phil Neville talks sense. No way this is a 4 nil game. Silly mistakes make you look silly. Pep will not stand for that. Look out for some January transfer movement. 

    Dave in Manchester: Pep's got no one to blame but himself. He insisted on replacing England's No. 1 with that clown who thinks he's Beckenbauer. So frustrating, cos the outfield players have been largely excellent. 

  18. Post update

    Arsenal 6-0 Ludogorets

    Arsenal and Paris St Germain are dueling for top spot in Group A.

    Their meeting at the Emirates on 23 November looks like it will decide who goes through at top seeds.

    Group A
  19. Man City’s Nou Camp nightmare

    Did Pep Guardiola make the right calls on his return to Barcelona? And what about Arsenal’s buoyant form? BBC World Service football reporter John Bennett is taking your questions on tonight’s Champions League action. 

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    Barcelona 4-0 Man City

    Phil Neville

    Former Manchester United defender at the Nou Camp for BBC Radio 5 live

    Man City are nowhere near the level Pep Guardiola wants them to be at.

    I don't care who you are, you can suffer at Barcelona's front three but the disappointing thing for me was the quality of the passing, the mistakes, giving the ball away in silly areas.

    Barcelona are only at 80 per cent of where they can be and this shows Manchester City are nowhere near Barcelona and will probably struggle to win the Champions League this year.