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Marc Higginson

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  1. Post update

    So, an impressive victory for Tottenham and a point apiece for Hull, Stoke, Sunderland and Manchester United.

    There's going to be plenty of reaction to all of today's games on the BBC Sport website tonight. And, don't forget Match of the Day 2 which is on BBC One at 22:25 BST (23:10 in Scotland).

    In the meantime, head over to our European football live text offering which is just cranking up. Goodnight.

  2. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Ian Wright

    606 on BBC Radio 5 live

    "Manchester United have had a lot of success and people revel in the fact that they're not doing well - but they'll get it right. Some fans can't accept it's not going right. But Louis Van Gaal will do his best, and I think a little more patience is required."

  3. The Young debate

    606 phone-in

    BBC Radio 5 live

    John, a Manchester United fan on 606: "If I see Ashley Young in a United shirt again, I won't be watching them."

    What's your view?

    Get in touch with Kelly Cates and Ian Wright: Call 0500 909 693, text 85058, email 606@bbc.co.uk, tweet @bbc606 or visit the 606 Facebook page.

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  4. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Samad Gigil: I don't understand why Manchester United aren't linked with Khedira! The archetypal box to box midfielder like Keane!

    Cameron Laws: If today showed anything, it showed Manchester United need another defender, a top class central midfielder and some attacking flair (Di Maria).

    Chris Riley: £63m for Di Maria seems excessive when he's not the defender Man United need - and Chelsea got Fabregas for around £30m.

  5. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
  6. Get involved on Facebook

    Solomon Sangabukila: Bring back David Moyes.

    Ash Morgan: Man Utd desperately need a world class, confident leader of a centre back or three...

  7. Manager reaction

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal on whether Ashley Young dived to try to win a penalty: "No I don't think so. He was tackled, in my opinion. After that he was exaggerating. It's not diving because he was touched by the opponent."

  8. Is Di Maria right for Man Utd?

    606 phone-in

    BBC Radio 5 live

    Steve, a Manchester United fan: "At £60m, I think the Di Maria money could be better spent elsewhere."

    Do you agree?

    Get in touch with Kelly Cates and Ian Wright: Call 0500 909 693, text 85058, email 606@bbc.co.uk, tweet @bbc606 or visit the 606 Facebook page.

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  9. Manager reaction

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    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    When asked about whether United are close to signing Angel Di Maria from Real Madrid, Louis Van Gaal said: "I cannot say anything at this time. I think always the club has to announce it first.

    "And when we are thinking it's the right time we come you to and say 'we have bought that player'. Do I like him? Yes, but there are a lot of players in this world I like!"

  10. Player reaction

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Manchester United striker Robin van Persie: "In possession we were a bit too sloppy. I did work with Louis van Gaal for two years, he is very clear of what he asks from every player in the team. Of course where I can I will help.

    "Everyone has faith and everyone believes in his staff and our players because we have great players. We have played two games and we only have one point, we would have loved six points but that didn't happen and we need to bounce back.

    "I feel fit, I feel good and I am looking forward to the next minutes."

  11. Manager reaction

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal, speaking to BBC Radio 5 live: "The purpose of the game is to create more chances and score goals. We haven't created more chances, but in the second half we were more dominant than we were against Swansea. That's a plus, but we have to create more from that dominance.

    "You have to recognise the fight of the opponent. We have reached Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie a lot of times, but after that you need the support of the midfielders, and the combination was not good enough.

    "The only reason to give a penalty is when the opponent touches the leg of a player. Van Persie and Young were touched. Young lifted the ball across the opponent and he was touched by the opponent. The referee can give a penalty - but we don't have to talk too much about that. We can talk about our passing game which was not good enough."

  12. Reaction

    Hull 1-1 Stoke

    Hull midfielder Tom Huddlestone: Some of the decisions we've had against us in the past two games aren't worth commenting on.

  13. Reaction

    Hull 1-1 Stoke

    Hull defender Curtis Davies: Great effort from the lads today. Sickening feeling to be up so long with 10 men only for a decision to prove vital. Two big games next.

  14. Post update

    Here's some reaction to the earlier game at the KC Stadium...

  15. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    While different players and managers appear to be interviewed by various media outlets, the Sunderland groundstaff are already cutting the grass on the Stadium of Light pitch. Does the green stuff really grow that much in 90 minutes?

  16. Manager reaction

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland manager Gus Poyet tells Sky Sports: "I think it was a good game to watch, we played a good first half going forward, taking chances and creating them.

    "We conceded at the wrong time because we were in control of the game. The second half we couldn't really play the game we wanted to play. We made a few decisions on how to play against a different system. It shows we were organised and disciplined."

    On Sunderland's hopes of signing Liverpool striker Fabio Borini, Poyet adds: "It's the million dollar question. I think we are close to an answer. Now is the time to decide because it's been too long. It's time for a yes or no and we need to move on."

  17. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland also face back-to-back away games next. They travel to play Birmingham on Wednesday and then face QPR on Saturday.

  18. Post update

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    What's next for Manchester United then? First of all, they face a trip to MK Dons in the second round of the Carling Cup on Tuesday, before they travel to Burnley next Saturday. That one's the lunchtime kick-off.

  19. Manager reaction

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland manager Gus Poyet tells BBC Sport: "A point is fair, I think so. We conceded a goal against the run of play a little bit.

    "We came back in the game, pushing. The fans were behind the team. The goal from Jack Rodwell was perfect for a home debut. There are plenty of positives.

    "It's important we started better than last year and that was key. Will Buckley played well and was incisive as well."

  20. The new Sir Alex?

    Infostrada Sports: Louis van Gaal is still on course to emulate Alex Ferguson. Exact same record after first two matches as Manchester United manager: Loss-Draw.

  21. Post update

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  22. Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    BBC Radio 5 live presenter Danny Baker: One option is that Man U move permanently to USA where they can still rake it in at heritage exhibition shows. Like Billy Idol or Sheena Easton.

  23. Post update

    Ian Wright

    606 on BBC Radio 5 live

    "Ashley Young deserved a yellow card over the penalty claim. He went over very easily. That's not going to help his reputation. I think his future's elsewhere. I think he should look at kicking on."

  24. Player reaction

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland goalscorer Jack Rodwell: "They needed a win, we knew they were going to come out the blocks and we put on a performance today.

    "It's great to score and I'm trying to get more headers! It was a good result. It's brilliant to be playing again after last season. I'm hoping to build up my fitness now and continue that."

  25. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Scott Mills: What do Man Utd need? Defenders, yes. Another number 10 or winger who doesn't track back, no.

    SJ Ismvil: Still think it was all Moyes' fault? Ha.

    Andrew Tarpey: Will judge United when Di Maria, Shaw, Rojo, Carrick and Herrera are all in the side. For now it's pre-season in my head.

  26. Player reaction

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland captain Lee Cattermole tells Sky Sports: "We had to be organised, they were looking for a reaction after last week's result.

    "But we're an organised team and we've worked hard in pre-season. It was vital after last year we got off to a good start and hopefully it continues."

  27. Have your say

    606 phone-in

    BBC Radio 5 live

    Ian Wright and Kelly Cates are waiting to take your calls and texts for 606 on Radio 5 live.

    You can call 0500 909 693, text 85058, email 606@bbc.co.uk, tweet @bbc606 or visit the 606 Facebook page.

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  28. Post update

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  29. Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "I expect Manchester United will improve. Whether that can be done in time to get in touch with the top teams - that's the big question.

    "Chelsea, Manchester City and Arsenal wouldn't be fearful of that side - even Everton and Tottenham wouldn't be fearful. Louis van Gaal has to sort out the defence and midfield. Adnan Januzaj may be part of the answer there, because he was lively when he came on.

    "You can talk about systems all day long. Van Gaal will play three at the back, he'll stick with it and the players will adapt. Today he probably only had about half of the team out there he would want to play. Will this be the Manchester United team come 2 or 3 September? I doubt it."

  30. Post update

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    What did you make of that Manchester United fans? Is Angel Di Maria the answer? Who else should your club be signing?

    What about Sunderland fans? Is it all coming together nicely under Gus Poyet?

  31. Post update

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    Here's how the bottom half of the two-game-old Premier League table looks...

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  32. FULL-TIME

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    All over. Louis van Gaal's wait for his first win as Manchester United manager continues. Sunderland? They are played two, drawn two.

    Wayne Rooney of Manchester United looks dejected
  33. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Joe Wedgwood: Juan Mata is increasingly ineffectual when tasked with providing United's creativity. Di Maria will surely offer more?

    Oli Worth: Why would Di Maria want to join this very average Man Utd team with no European football and little prospect of it?

    Toby Baker: You know it's been a bad day when Phil Jones has been your best player.

    Corin Wright: Every team has players who go to ground... it doesn't make sense Young gets quite so much stick for it.

  34. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Antonio Valencia's cross is headed clear, Juan Mata and Dany Welbeck's one-two breaks down and Adnan Januzaj's low shot flashes wide.

  35. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    The ball is indeed pumped into the box, but the referee blows for a foul by Wes Brown.

  36. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland win a free-kick just inside their own half. Hoof it forward...

  37. Post update

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    Jozy Altidore breaks forward, tries a step-over and is mugged by Phil Jones. The unmarked Connor Wickham is furious.

  38. INJURY TIME

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    Four minutes of injury time...

  39. Post update

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    A lung-busting run from his own half by Ashley Young ends with a low shot which is well saved at his near post by Vito Mannone. In the course of that move, Young injures himself and goes to ground.

  40. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland goalkeeper Vito Mannone gets away with a slip as Ashley Young rifles a low shot into a crowd of desperate Black Cats defenders. The pendulum swings once again.

  41. Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "Lee Cattermole has been fantastic today. He's not just been patrolling his own area. When he sees the danger somewhere else, he gets over. He's got a great engine, and the timing of his tackles has been superb."

    Juan Mata of Manchester United is tackled by Lee Cattermole
  42. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland are being allowed to play the ball out from the back - only being met with a blue shirt when they reach the halfway line. As a result, the Black Cats are patiently building up a head of steam.

  43. Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?

    Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Jord Holly: Worst player ever to play for Portsmouth. Theofanis Gekas. I think he got 20 seconds of game time. Flop.

    Mark Barrow: Roque Junior at Leeds - seven games, 24 goals conceded. Sent off on home debut and scored two against Man U but we still lost 3-2.

    Matt Donnelly: Has to be Massimo Taibi at Man Utd - the Le Tissier howler will always be replayed in any blooper DVDs.

  44. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Woeful control from Jozy Altidore sees one Sunderland attack break down, before Patrick van Aanholt tries his luck with a daisy-cutter. Easy for David De Gea.

  45. Post update

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    10 minutes to find a winner. Who wants the three points?

  46. Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "Juan Mata has been dominated by Lee Cattermole today. There have been times when I've questioned whether Cattermole has got what it takes to play at the top level. Those questions are well in the past now.

    "His fitness is astonishing. Not only has he dominated Mata, but he's also got close to Wayne Rooney when he has moved into the area where Mata has been playing."

  47. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Admit it Sunderland fans... you had your hearts in your mouths then. Danny Welbeck plays a wonderful pass into the path of Ashley Young and Vito Mannone comes racing out of his goal to beat the flying wing-back to the ball just outside his area. What a tackle!

  48. SUBSTITUTION

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    Jozy Altidore is on. Steven Fletcher is off. 14 minutes to go.

  49. Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?

    Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Paul Hunt: Worst player at Liverpool was either Sean Dundee or Torben Piechnik. Or most of Graeme Souness' signings.

    Leon Walcott: Worst player for me in a Villa shirt.... Bosko Balaban followed closely by Alex Tonev.

    Steven Brown: Lots of candidates for worst player at Leeds but Zamouna Camara shades it for me.

  50. Post update

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    But Seb Larsson bends it wide. Well wide, in fact.

  51. Post update

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    Santiago Vergini has been an absolute colossus for Sunderland this afternoon - dominating at the back and now he's bringing the ball out of defence and starting a move which ends with the hosts winning a free-kick 25 yards from goal...

  52. Post update

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    We're into the final 20 minutes of the game now. This could go either way.

  53. Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "It's amazing how games suddenly stretch. Players get tired, systems change and - over a one or two-minute period - it's almost as if tactics have gone out of the window."

  54. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    For a brief second, Michael Keane sees glory... but his header from 18 yards out is meat and drink for Vito Mannone.

  55. Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?

    Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    James Lindsay: Chris Sutton at Chelsea. Bought for £10m and only managed one goal. Mind you it was against Manchester United.

    Chris Martins: It's got to be Tomas Repka for West Ham... an own goal specialist.

    Felix Keith: Surely Ali Dia of Southampton has got to be the worst player to have played in the top flight?

  56. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland don't want a point here. They want all three - Connor Wickham playing in Seb Larsson and the midfielder's shot is deflected wide. The game is becoming stretched.

  57. Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?

    Text us on 81111

    From Josh in Notts: I don't think there will be too many Liverpool fans out there who'd disagree with Djimi Traore being nominated for worst player. An absolute liability as a full back, summed up by his infamous own goal against Burnley. How that man has a Champions League winners medal is beyond me.

    From James C in Surrey: Has to be Winston Bogarde at Chelsea. A 10 million pound contract for nine appearances in four years...

    From Tim Barber: Richard Edghill for Man City, gave 110% but not much else.

    Keep the texts coming in - and don't forget to put your name on them.

  58. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "The first tackle is absolutely spot on, the defender's got the ball. With the second tackle, I think Ashley Young is waiting for a hit and just about dived out of the way - so I can't fault the referee there either.

    "He dived into the player trying to get the hit. There was minimal contact, and I think the referee's got it right. We know Ashley Young has done that before. He's got previous, and referees know it. That shouldn't be a factor, but it is. It's as if he's anticipating the contact - but it's an elaborate dive."

  59. SUBSTITUTION

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    That is Robin van Persie's last act as he is replaced by Danny Welbeck while Adnan Januzaj comes on for Darren Fletcher. For Sunderland, Jordi Gomez is on for Jack Rodwell.

    Manager Louis van Gaal of Manchester United substitutes Robin van Persie of Manchester United
  60. PENALTY APPEAL

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    Two penalty appeals for Manchester United, and both are correctly turned down. First of all, Santiago Vergini times a tackle to perfection to deny Robin van Persie before Ashley Young theatrically throws himself to ground when faced with Wes Brown in the Sunderland box. A dive? The referee thinks so and gets out the yellow card.

    Referee Martin Atkinson shows the yellow card to Ashley Young
    Darren Fletcher and Juan Mata of Manchester United confront referee Martin Atkinson
  61. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Manchester United are desperately trying to impose a bit of class in midfield now - Darren Fletcher side-stepping Lee Cattermole's forceful challenge in midfield and playing in Robin van Persie who finds Juan Mata but the Spaniard is crowded out.

  62. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Ryan Giggs is locked in animated discussion with Louis van Gaal in the dug-out. Manchester United are actually getting a bit of momentum back and Steven Fletcher has to help out with some defensive duties when Juan Mata whips a good cross into the box from the right. Finally, Sunderland manage to press their visitors back.

  63. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    BBC Radio 5 live presenter Danny Baker: Manchester United are like going to see a famous band who have a great back catalogue and reputation but now only one original member left.

  64. Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?

    Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Wale Ibraheem: The worst player I have seen at Chelsea was Khalid Boulahrouz. Came on as substitute and later substituted after few minutes.

    Pundit de Satge: Konchesky, N'gog, Voronin, Poulsen - take your pick from Liverpool over the years and the Hodgson era.

    Lee Bown: Worst player at Liverpool. Jan Kromkamp.

  65. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Wayne Rooney is enduring another difficult afternoon. He gets the chance to run at the Sunderland defence in a one-on-one situation but Santiago Vergini easily mops up the danger. Meanwhile, Lee Cattermole continues to throw his weight around in the Sunderland midfield. United being outmuscled?

    Rooney
  66. Post update

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    So, so close for Sunderland. Some very neat play on the edge of the box helps the ball reach Connor Wickham just inside the area and, as Michael Keane slips, the striker scuffs a shot towards goal which is almost turned into his own net by Tyler Blackett before trickling wide.

    Conor Wickham reacts after missing a chance
  67. Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "It's interesting that Manchester United have not changed the back line at half-time. It's still three men at the back. I don't have a problem with Tyler Blackett - he's played OK. In the long term Phil Jones may end up being the central player in that back three. But the five they currently have as a back line would not send fear into many strikers at the top level."

  68. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    A slow start to the second half - but Gus Poyet is keeping things interesting with a theatrical, almost toddler-like, tantrum when a run-of-the-mill decision goes against him. What a great character.

    Poyet
  69. Have your say on the day's action

    606 phone-in

    BBC Radio 5 live

    Plenty to talk about already on a busy Sunday of Premier League action. Are Tottenham serious Premier League title contenders? Can Louis van Gaal sort out Manchester United's defence? Were Hull as hard done by today as their manager Steve Bruce claims?

    The lines are open now for 606 on Radio 5 live - and Kelly Cates and Ian Wright are waiting to take your calls.

    Give them a call on 0500 909 693, text 85058, e-mail 606@bbc.co.uk, tweet @bbc606 or get in touch via the Facebook page.

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  70. KICK-OFF

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    The second-half show is on the road.

  71. HALF-TIME

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    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "Tom Cleverley has been incredibly quiet and had a limited effect. He and Darren Fletcher haven't passed the ball well. That's probably why the strikers have had limited impact. Mata, Rooney and Van Persie haven't had the service.

    "This is a work in progress. It will be a miracle if this Manchester United side win the league - but I don't think this will be the Manchester United side going forward."

  72. Who's the worst player you've seen at your club?

    Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Adam Lamb: Worst player at Newcastle. Boumsong

    Charlie Fee: Titus "shambles" Bramble for Newcastle has to be up there.

    Brad Hughes: Worst defender I've seen down at Birmingham in a long time is Tyler Blackett. 3-0 down after 24 mins, and taken off at half-time.

    Let's open up this debate. Tell us who you think is the worst player you've seen at your club - and why. Tweet with #bbcfootball, text on 81111 or get in touch via Facebook or Google+.

  73. HALF-TIME

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    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "I think Manchester United would be concerned if that was defensive line-up they put out against Manchester City, Chelsea or Arsenal. They haven't got on the ball well enough. They have taken more control. But they do have to do something about that left hand side. Get Ashley Young further up the pitch. The problem is that they don't have anyone else to sit in there."

  74. Manager reaction

    Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    QPR manager Harry Redknapp

    QPR boss Harry Redknapp tells BBC Sport: "We didn't play well. We got what we deserved, which is nothing. We didn't play with enough energy and I thought we were in awe of Tottenham a little bit.

    "I just felt we started sloppy and never really got better. You have to play with energy, you can't stroll about in this division if you want to stay in it.

    "If Matty Phillips had scored early on it might have given us a lift. But we went under a bit today, not everybody but I was disappointed."

  75. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Gary Lineker

    Match of the Day host

    Spurs have got themselves a fine manager in Mauricio Pochettino. This fella might actually be around for a while. Tactically very astute!

  76. Manager reaction

    Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    Tottenham's players celebrate

    Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino told BBC Sport: "We are really pleased and happy. It was a great performance. We are happy with 4-0 it was a great result.

    "We are trying to develop our style and philosophy. It is not easy but the players always try. Today we did well.

    "Erik Lamela did well, it is never easy when you come to new country and you are young to adapt. He needs time to show his skill. We believe in all our squad. We try to get the best out of each player and it's important because we have a lot of games ahead."

  77. Post update

    Let's catch up with some reaction from one of the day's lunchtime matches...

  78. Post update

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    Daily Telegraph northern football correspondent Mark Ogden: This United defence has William Prunier all over it...

    Prunier, for those of you too young to remember, was a French defender who played two games for Manchester United - where his short stay ended after a calamitous display in a 4-1 defeat at Tottenham on New Year's Day 1996.

  79. Post update

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  80. HALF-TIME

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    Nothing between the teams as they head for a half-time break. I suspect Sunderland will be the happier side.

    United players
  81. Get involved on Facebook

    Nenye Fes: Fletcher, Young and Cleverly are not United quality.

    Muchiri Ndung'u: United need to get the fear factor back - no one seems to be afraid of them anymore.

    Augustine Banda: Come on Sunderland - these are your fellow mid-table team. You can even finish above them this season.

  82. Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "What odds would you have got six months ago on Keane, Jones and Blackett being a three-man central defence for Manchester United in an important game? It will be interesting to see if Louis van Gaal sticks with this for the second half.

    "What I will say is that when you get Phil Jones playing as the central defender in that set-up, he will come out with he ball much more than Smalling does, so it may help them."

  83. Post update

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    Manchester United's back three is now: Phil Jones, Michael Keane and Tyler Blackett...

  84. SUBSTITUTION

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    An enforced change for Manchester United, with Chris Smalling going off injured (hamstring) and being replaced by 21-year-old Michael Keane who is making his Premier League debut after spending last season on loan at Blackburn. A big step up.

  85. ACROBATIC EFFORT

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    Jack Rodwell is winning everything in the air now - knocking the ball back across for Steven Fletcher but the striker's overhead kick is way off target.

  86. Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "I've talked about Ashley Young a lot today as he's under pressure more than anybody else, because there's a replacement for him ready to come in. He's got to work on the defensive side of his game."

  87. Post update

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    Damning criticism from Matt below. Is this one of the worst defences Manchester United have fielded? Let's have your contenders for the worst player you've seen at your own club.

  88. Text us on 81111

    From Adam in Edinburgh: This United team are literally terrible. You may as well have cardboard cut outs of Cleverley, Fletcher, Smalling and Young because they don't do anything of worth at any point in any game!

    From Matt in Leicester: Forget Di Maria! The rumours of Daley Blind and Nigel de Jong look far more important! Never seen such poor defenders and midfielders representing Man United.

  89. Post update

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    Playing as the most advanced player in the Manchester United team, Robin van Persie is having to hold up the ball to allow the likes of Wayne Rooney to join in any quick attacks. He's doing a decent enough job at it but Manchester United, despite stringing together what seems like 50 passes in the Sunderland half, can't pick any pockets and the promise fizzles out.

    Van Persie
  90. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Paul Iummis: Ball watching, and nobody on the post. What a shambles.

    Ed Stockton: Great header that. Even if he is an ex-Toffee, I don't like to see talent like Rodwell's go to waste.

    Sam Neal: Di Maria would be a great signing! But Man U could spend the large sum of money better signing a couple of decent defenders.

    Rodwell
  91. Post update

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Ironic cheers from the Sunderland supporters as Wayne Rooney steps up to take a free-kick 35 yards from goal and curls it wide of his target.

  92. Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "It's a really neat bit of movement from Jack Rodwell. He runs to the near post, and then puts on the brakes so his maker can't stay with him, and he gets a clear header. I liked his movement. Everything about that was perfect for Rodwell - apart from the celebration, where he fell over, and we can all have a good laugh at that on Match of the Day 2 this evening.

    "I didn't think he got enough games at Manchester City - and I hope that won't hold up his career. I don't think it will - I think he's going to blossom here."

    Rodwell
  93. GOAL

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd - Jack Rodwell (30 mins)

    £10m well spent? Sunderland fans certainly think so as ex-Manchester City midfielder Jack Rodwell becomes an instant hero on Wearside by evading his marker, Robin van Persie, and heading home Seb Larsson's corner at the near post. A bit too easy for the hosts.

    Rodwell
  94. Post update

    Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    Better from Sunderland as a throw-in finds Connor Wickham, who turns Phil Jones 35 yards out and rifles in a low shot which is just wide of David De Gea's goal.

  95. Post update

    Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    Q. How can you tell Sunderland are second-best?

    A. When Lee Cattermole is running round kicking shadows.

    Manchester United look a different outfit now as they take their turn to pass the ball about in pretty triangles and push the Black Cats high up the pitch.

  96. Post update

    Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    Ferguson

    The three amigos sat behind Sir Alex don't look too welcoming, do they?

  97. Post update

    Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    That Manchester United goal has instantly taken the sting out of Sunderland, silenced the supporters and infused the visitors with a new-found serenity. They no longer look all at sea.

  98. Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "That's a killer sucker punch. It's almost the first time Manchester United have been up the pitch. Antonio Valencia was positive.

    "That's what they were working on in the warm-up before the game - it's good old fashioned wing play. Well done to Juan Mata for showing the desire to get there. It's a tap in. With United a goal up, surely their confidence must grow now."

    Mata
  99. GOAL

    Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd - Juan Mata (17 mins)

    Sunderland miss a glorious chance at one end - Connor Wickham firing straight at David de Gea after a sweeping counter-attack - before Manchester United roar up the other end and take the lead.

    The goal is fashioned on the flanks... Antonio Valencia putting in a delightful ball from the right and Juan Mata is on hand to convert from six yards out.

    Juan Mata of Manchester United celebrates
  100. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Ethan Robinson: I just can't see an out-and-out winger like Young becoming a right-footed left-wing back in a few months.

    David: I can only assume Di Maria is being brought to play as a centre-back.

    Hassan Aljumah: Someone tell Cleverly he is playing football not rugby - enough with the backward passing and conversion kicks.

  101. Post update

    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    However, Sunderland can't make the chance count - Seb Larsson picking out Lee Cattermole on the edge of the box and the midfielder's low shot is charged down.

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    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Sunderland win a free-kick down near the corner flag when Ashley Young bundles over Will Buckley on the right...

  103. Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "Manchester United have given the ball away three times already when playing it along the back three. Part of the problem is that Tom Cleverley and Darren Fletcher are pushing further on, which means the defenders are have to play their shorter passes across the back rather than go forwards - and the back three don't look comfortable doing that. A back three is fine, but you have to be comfortable on the ball."

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    From Neil in Dorset: Sunderland love playing the big teams. Home wins against Man City and Chelsea last season - not to mention scalp of United in the Carling Cup. Can easily see a second chastening defeat for Louis van Gaal today.

  105. Post update

    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Tom Cleverley's not found his shooting range yet - lashing into Row Z from just outside the area. That ball was in more danger of finding Rex outside the ground (see 15:47) than troubling Vito Mannone.

  106. Post update

    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    I'm with Pat Nevin on Jack Rodwell - I think he's got the potential to be a very, very good midfield player. Back to the action though, where Sunderland are trying to press Manchester United high up the pitch. They aren't going to sit back.

  107. Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "I've got great hopes for Jack Rodwell at Sunderland. I wasn't sure about him when he left Everton. But in the few games he played for Manchester City, he looked special. If he can get regular games under his belt here, he could be something very special.

    "What we're seeing already in this game is that both teams are going at each other. It's an exciting start, and I've high hopes that it will continue in that way."

  108. Post update

    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Louis van Gaal sits with his legs crossed, supporting an A4 dossier in which the manager constantly scribbles away. I can't quite make it out, but LvG looks more of a fountain pen man than somebody who uses a biro nabbed from the bookies.

  109. Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "I can see Angel Di Maria slotting in where Ashley Young plays now. Young is not the best defensively, while Di Maria can do a decent job there.

    "Is Di Maria the key stone of this Manchester United side or is he just another brick? That would be my question."

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    Kev in Colchester: What on earth is going on with Man Utd's kit? That's awful!

    Rob in Brighton: I really don't see where Di Maria fits into a 3-5-2. Are they planning on playing him as a wing-back? Are United buying good players because they are available, or are they buying the correct personnel to fit a system?

    Ryan in London: I think Man Utd will burst into life with the return of Robin van Persie but they will be leaking goals all season, there is no organisation at the back. Sunderland could sneak a win today.

  111. Post update

    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Already, Manchester United look jittery - Ashley Young playing an awful backpass which is picked up by Connor Wickham 35 yards from goal. The young striker drives forward, but can't quite play a killer ball into Steven Fletcher and the danger passes. For now.

  112. KICK-OFF

    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    The referee gives his whistle a good toot and we're under way at the Stadium of Light.

    Louis van Gaal
  113. Post update

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    So Louis van Gaal knows what most would agree is Blind-ingly obvious - the Red Devils need defenders. One man strongly linked to Old Trafford is Ajax's Daley Blind, who was an integral part of Van Gaal's Dutch World Cup squad.

    But it appears the versatile 24-year-old, who can play left-back, the left centre-half of a back three, or the holding midfield role, is still firmly in the Dutch champions plans. Interestingly Blind, the son of Dutch legend Danny, has started their Eredivisie match against arch-rivals PSV Eindhoven. Ajax fans will be crossing their fingers that this isn't his last appearance in the famous red and white shirt.

  114. Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of Light

    "Manchester United must show people they are a team to be feared again. For large parts of last season, teams treated a fixture against them as just another game.

    "What I find interesting is the way United have warmed up. They did pure attacking play for 20 to 25 minutes - and it's clear they're not going out to soak up pressure. Antonio Valencia will be expected to play as a right winger, not a right-back."

  115. Post update

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    It's almost time. Manchester United, wearing dark blue, walk out alongside their hosts Sunderland.

    Louis Van Gaal and Sunderland's manager Gus Poyet
  116. Manager reaction

    Hull City 1-1 Stoke City

    Hull City 1-1 Stoke City

    Hull manager Steve Bruce on Stoke being awarded a dubious throw-in in the build up to their equaliser: "It baffles me. It is an awful one. The throw-in was ours and blatantly ours. It is not as though it is faint touch, their boy does not even want to turn round for a throw. You would think they get that right because it has cost us.

    "What can you say? We had an awful one last one week as well but it riles me a decision should be given, why can they not say in his ear 'you have got that one wrong'. It only takes 20 seconds. You have the technology."

  117. Manager reaction

    Hull City 1-1 Stoke City

    Mark Hughes

    Stoke manager Mark Hughes: "The overriding emotion is frustration because we didn't play particularly well. Frustration, but a bit of relief because we got something. We didn't show enough intelligence. We need to be better than that.

    "We didn't create enough chances for the superiority in numbers we had. We are not hitting where we were last season. We wanted to hit the ground running but we haven't quite done that. We didn't deserve a great deal so we are a bit grateful."

  118. Text us on 81111

    From Sam in Manchester: Let's just leave the league there eh? From a happy Spurs fan.

    From Ash in Leeds: QPR clearly need a big, commanding centre-back to shore up their defence. What's Chris Samba up to these days?

  119. Post update

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    Can Sunderland get a result today? Gus Poyet certainly sounded in buoyant mood in his pre-match news conference.

    "I know the players very well now, there are no doubts," he said. "Last year, I had too many doubts. Now I know exactly the players we have.

    "The squad at the moment is very compact and it's easier to control. Everybody knows exactly what we want apart from the new players, who are trying to get used to it very quickly, so it's better for the team.

    "There are fewer and fewer and fewer excuses, which is good for me."

  120. Text us on 81111

    From Joe in Manchester: Those questioning the thinking behind Di Maria's signing need look no further than the poor form of Valencia and Young and the departure of Nani as valid reasons. Also - the window isn't closed yet, fully expect a central midfielder and a utility man to arrive before the end of the window.

    From Sam in Littlehampton: With this new formation that Van Gaal is trying, does it mean that he will play Di Maria at right wing back? He's a great player I just don't see how he'll fit in.

    From Doug in Leyland: Di Maria is a great player but anything over £40m is too much. Why not use that money to make Dortmund an offer they couldn't refuse for Hummels?

  121. Post update

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    I like this picture a lot...

    "Come on Rex, let's go for a walk. Let's go and see the Black Cats. Now, where did we put your wig?"

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)
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    Ogunjide Ayotunde Ayodeji: Sunderland will defeat Man Utd again!

    Shabi Olajide: This is just the right time for Van Gaal to show the Premier League what he's made of.

  123. Post update

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    One game in, and Louis van Gaal is already saying it will take a "miracle" for Manchester United to win the title this season.

    Van Gaal, 63, says he is trying to rectify an "unbalanced" squad and added: "To win the title this season would be a miracle. But that isn't to say that it isn't possible.

    "The problem I have at United is that the selection is not balanced. There are five number nines and six number 10s - and we don't have enough defenders."

    That's easily solved, Louis. Buy another number 10...

  124. Post update

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    Manager Louis van Gaal of Manchester United signs autographs

    "Hi there Mr van Gaal. Please could you sign my Middlesbrough annual?"

    An interesting choice of pre-match reading for a Sunderland v Manchester United fixture!

  125. Text us on 81111

    From Ruairi in Chelsea: This is the second time in recent years that QPR have spent big after winning promotion. It turned out poorly last time and seems to be going the same way again. For a squad of their talent, it is simply not good enough. Clubs with far less money always do better. This time, Redknapp must take some of the blame.

  126. Player reaction

    Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    Tottenham winger Nacer Chadli tells BBC Sport: "I am happy to make two goals and help us to the win. I think as a team we are more focused and keep out shape defensively and offensively. We are now positive looking forward."

  127. Post update

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    Guy Mowbray

    BBC Match of the Day commentator at the Stadium of Light

    "With Manchester United, there's been an issue with the Marcos Rojo paperwork, so we won't be seeing him today. And we won't be seeing Di Maria just yet. I was at the game against Swansea for Match of the Day last week, and United weren't great. It just underlined the work that Louis van Gaal has to do.

    "There's a lot of pressure on the Juan Mata-Robin van Persie-Wayne Rooney attacking triangle. I didn't think Mata got into the game against Swansea, even though it should have suited him. He's got to have a big game this afternoon."

  128. Post update

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    Guy Mowbray

    BBC Match of the Day commentator at the Stadium of Light

    "Sunderland are comfortable - but they want to be more than comfortable. They don't want to be fighting relegation again this season.

    "I find their squad such a contradiction. Their strikers are decent, but will they get a bucket load of goals? They have quality in midfield, but no real matchwinners. With the defenders, I wonder about their longevity. Their two goalkeepers are all right. But they want to do more than just struggle."

  129. Post update

    Let's begin our build-up to the afternoon's late kick-off at the Stadium of Light...

  130. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Gregory P: QPR were mediocre in the Championship and got promoted via the unfairest of play-off wins. This season relegation is the only outcome.

    Jase: Sad to see the true gaffer in Harry go through this! Going to be a long year for the two greats in Hoddle and Harry.

    Daniel Walford: QPR should never have come up...

  131. Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts

    BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart Lane

    "All credit to Tottenham. They were fantastic in the first half. QPR were very poor; they were like strangers in the first 45 minutes. In the second half, they simplified it. Going to 4-5-1 helped them. You started to hear all the experienced players open their mouths - because what happens sometimes is that if you're not sure what you're doing, you don't start shouting instructions to your team-mates in case you're wrong. But they stemmed the flow a little more in the second half.

    "Maybe they started the wrong way. The 3-5-2 set-up can save the legs of Rio Ferdinand and Richard Dunne if they do it in the right way. But you need the midfield to close down. Joey Barton didn't get close to Tottenham's midfield. He hasn't led the side. I don't think he's applied himself or got close enough to the opposition. If you don't do that, Tottenham will dictate possession."

    Redknapp points towards the fans
  132. Post update

    Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    Tottenham 4-0 QPR
  133. Player reaction

    Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    Tottenham defender Eric Dier: "We've done a lot of work on the training ground and it shows with the clean sheets. For me personally it's nice to score another one at the other end as well."

  134. As it stands

    Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    The Premier League table looks good, Spurs fans...