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281 PauloThere was a rumour that Newey has been approached to join Renault, When he was asked about it he didn't deny it so people are now making up stories that he wasn't happy about the engine switch. I think its all false to be honest as he would have been consulted about switching to Honda and i don't imagine they wouldn't want to lose him
@250 'Newey not happy with Honda partnership decision'Where did you read that? If Newey didnt have a big say in the decision and was unhappy about it.... RB know he'd likely go elsewhere. Without Adrian Newey RB know they would only have an average aero car. Why would they risk loosing him?It just doesn't make enough sense to be even remotely believable.
Honda can design the engine around the preferred Mobil fuel for RBR.The Honda and Renault PUs are on a par for power. Only reason Mcfail have improved a bit this season is because they've changed that dog of a car but not enough to catch RBR who use the same PU. If Mcfail were runnin Honda, they'd be in the same position but $100m better off. Idiots.
The reasons RBR Renault were able to win so much is because of the blown diffuser, Newey's aero and engine freeze. Not developing the V8 was to Renault's advantage because now the gloves are off and development is unrelenting, Renault fail. Honda is the only way, RBR won't get a Merc PU and Fez will never supply them.
Honda money, full works collaboration with no clash of interests in the relationship, unlike staying with Renault who they are never going to be able to really compete at the very front with. It really is the obvious choice.
With RB not a car manufacturer themselves there is not quite so much at stake here. If the Honda relationship fails they will just line up something for new reg time in 2021... or walk away from F1 and invest in another discipline or sport. They just want to win to promote their brand... where they do that is a moot point as long as exposure level is still good value.
Oh boy is that rubbing salt into McLaren. If Red Bull start winning races with a Honda Engine that could be the end of McLaren as we know it.
I look at which engines are currently being run by the various teams, the current rankings for drivers and constructors, and from my layman's perspective, it seems that Honda has quite a large step to make Red Bull at least as good as they currently are with the Renault engine. I'm very interested to see how this pans out!
It's time to drop the hybrid formula and stop deluding themselves that they have some revolutionary new technology when all they have is revamped old technology. Stick V8's in the back and just go racing, get in the real world. All this technology as been around for decades in one form or another. There is none so blind as those who don't want to see.
Really people look at the timing? If this works for RB great, if it doesn't the deal ends when the new regs come in, Honda walk away admitting defeat and not wanting to pump billions into a new engine again. RB hold their hands up in the air cry boo hoo we have no engine and walk away blaming everyone else its a win/get out of jail free(ish) for Red Bull. Not great for DR though
In the short term this looks like a step sideways. Unfortunately Honda have a history in F1 of pulling the plug and leaving with little warning. This would ring alarm bells if I were in charge of Red Bull. They already had one panic where they potentially had no engine deal, they are now putting all their eggs in a Honda basket and Honda have a history of dropping that basket.
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