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Maybe if yours cars not working talk to the tyre people and they will solve it for them !This year is a joke and its not a propper season to me due to the tyres change n illegal tests with black helmets i must add.It really does put shame to all the hard work the other team put into there cars to run on the original tyres compounds!Ferrari just talk to pirelli look at mercs now !
@613. You're laughably conspiratorial! And "Santander paying KR" is again pure speculation presented as fact.@614. Are you for real!? The 2nd link claims that KR and FA would be teammates at FER in 2009!! That is proof AGAINST your argument! Btw, just to kill your argument once and for all:http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2008/sep/13/formulaone.motorsportsNote the date - 13/09/08
@612"One more time - can you prove that FER "decided to drop KR mid 2008?"Sorry if you asked before, may have missed it..http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20397.htmlhttp://f1fanatics.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/alonso-and-santander-on-verge-of-2009-ferrari-deal/Think you'd be hard pressed to find a journo who doesn't think deal was done around thenBtw, you still haven't answered my question
@610Santander paid off Kimi (who had a contract for 2010) so that their man Alonso could join Ferrari with clear #1 status. This is all pretty well known and hardly a conspiracy theory.Obviously, from a PR point of view, it would not have looked good for Ferrari if Kimi has won another WDC or if he had joined another team in 2010 and beaten FA. That's why they made it pay for him to leave F1.
@611. One more time - can you prove that FER "decided to drop KR mid 2008?" No. Now you say there's no blame for KR's 08!? Yet you keeping harping on about chassis, Santander, Massa' attitude, Ferrari's politics etc and how, between them, they supposedly scuppered KR 08&09!And the facts of 09 are that pre-FM's injury, FM had twice the amount of points of KR in "one of the worst FER in memory."
@607 one more time: did WDC standings mid 2008 justify dropping Kimi?@607 & 609 The point is not who to blame, the point is that there is nothing to blame for. Kimi was in contention for WDC until 2nd half of 2008. And in 2nd half of 2009 he outscored all except LH in one of the worst Ferraris in memory. Hardly underwhelming. The facts speak for themselves. No conspiracy theory is needed.
It was someone with too much money who paid Kimi , what was it , £18 million not to race?Most bonkers thing ever in F1.
Classic, so it was Santander who drove Kimi to fall short of Massa... They must also be blamed for the shorts and ice-cream incident at Malaysia. ;)The big losers after Hungary are Alonso, Massa, di Resta, Sutil and the Torro R's - all because of the tyre change mid-season.
He meant Massa's car , as Di resta is taking the number 1 Ferrari drive next year.
#606 edit: that should have read: "esp. [compared] to LH's McL12..."@604 (again). I'm sorry...my "thinking is clouded!?" Coming from the person stating "it was the chassis/Ferrari politics/Massa's attitude/Alonso/Santander/other assorted conspiracy theories, are to blame for Raikkonen's underwhelming 2008&2009," is a little bit rich!!
@604. I'm wondering if your conspiracy-laden excuses for KR are a wind-up? And what "personal dislike!?"@605. He has been no more consistent than FA or LH in the same period but his Lotus, esp. LH's McL 12, has been infinitely more reliable. And now that the top 10 score points, trundling around 7th-10th (as KR often does) in a super-reliable car isn't particularly impressive.
Is KR inconsistent? He has scored points in the last 27 races and broke Schumacher's record (24). At Lotus he is clearly enjoying himself but I think RB needs him. Vettel is great but it wold be interesting to see KR as his team mate. Vettel might start complaining... he's a wimp
@602"he's far too inconsistent "You're kidding right? You're clearly allowing your personal dislike of Kimi to cloud your thinkingThe deal with Santander +was+ done mid 2008. That's when the decision was made to drop Kimi. Clearly a business decision more than a sporting oneAgain, do you think WDC standings mid 2008 justified replacing Kimi? Should FA be dropped now for being behind Kimi?
@599, Raikkonen is one of the few (supposed) top-level drivers who couldn't win a WDC in a Newey car. Yes he was a bit unlucky in 2003 but in an excellent Newey car, you have few excuses.I can't stand Vettel (driver or man) but at least he has gets the job done with the best car...albeit fortunately so in 2012. But SV is more consistent and professional than KR. SV will beat him in at RB.
@596. Indeed. KR is great on his day...but he's far too inconsistent and he is shielded from criticism by the ridiculous "don't care" persona he has cultivated for himself. Take his trip along an old part of BRA last season. Everyone said "oh how funny typical Kimi!" If that had been LH or SV they would've - rightly - been ridiculed for such brain-fade.
I think all this speculation and stories in the media is a real beat-up. Next year is a whole new ball game with the new 1.6 turbo and this will have a huge impact on teams, speed v's reliability and driveability. The current top teams now may struggle next year, and is in the back of the drivers minds. The only seat next year is at RB and it will go to Ricardo. Driver will stay where they are.
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