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Vettel is more dependent than most WDCs on having the best car. Heaven forbid when he has to start outside the front row, actually have to try to race to win, overtake or compete with the chasing pack! Such things usually result in an underwhelming performance/an SV caused collision and/or a sulky and petulant message over the radio.
437,Finally you're learning something, Twirlip.
When Vettel wins a race - "He only does that because the car is incredibly good!"When he does not win - "You see, he's useless without the best car!"
@435: codaxFernando Alonso only managed to take the lead of the European GP last year because Seb Vettel's car had a failure. Hamilton only managed to grab his championship win in 2008 by the skin of his teeth because of Timo Glock's tyres. What's your point? A job needs to be done, and more than anyone, Seb can get it done. Call it luck? I'd call that a little naivete on your part.
@430 "You know: SV has been in an (sub) average car. The Torro Rosso. And he made a world of difference there". He was only able to do that because LH, raikkonen,massa and kubica were a long way behind in qualifying and it was raining
And if they don't stop regulating and levelling, F1 will pretty soon be like Formula Ford, but with little, highly strung, massively overpaid backstabbing, two-faced, untrustworthy sulky prima donnas at the wheel.And yes, I am thinking of one particular driver when I say that. Can you guess who it is? Answers on a postcard please.......
I know it's off topic from a different story but this quote is the reason I like Bernie. The world needs more Bernie's!"MPs are good, we see them once a year, we never see them otherwise. They suddenly pop up, which is good because no-one knows who they are and suddenly get their name in the paper so it does good for everybody.
Oh please, give it up. I've said it before and I'll say it again. They're all pretty good drivers, but it's the car that makes the difference. Vettel is no better than any of the others, he just has the better car. And don't quote Webber at me...anyone who thinks there's not a number one and number two driver and number one and number 2 car is labouring under a very naive misapprehension.
why does everybody wants to put the best driver in average car? What does that prove? Jenson is at the moment in an average car. Lewis is in a car good for qualifying but lacking race pace, FA is in a good car but not the most consistent one as can be seen from last race, Kimi is maybe the only other WDC who is in decent car. no WDC in average car since MS in Benetton
"Put SV in an average car andhe won't be able to make up the difference like alonso does"You know: SV has been in an (sub) average car. The Torro Rosso. And he made a world of difference there.
I'm not a huge fan of Vettel. His behaviour from the 'finger' to the arrogant radio messages annoy me. Even his domination annoyed me the other day. It's like comparing Rossi with Stoner. Rossi would make the race exciting whereas Stoner would happily dominate from the front....However...there can be no denying Vettel's talent, he's an exceptional driver and it was a masterful drive.
I think with the money and the brains at RB they will somehow manage to deal with the new changes as the rest of the teams, especially with that Renault engine.
424 Jai Patel. How did he get lucky? You know, Alonso was IN the race when Vettel overtook him for second, then Nico for first. Seb had already made his move and pulled out a bit of a gap before Alonso got into trouble. The "Seb is just lucky" thing is so old. Ps BBC please sort your site problems out, this is rather frustrating.
@425You mean developers like Renault and their works team, which is... er... Red Bull!
it will be hard for RB to be competitive next year with all the rule changes when aerodinamics are less important for performance and the new engine design V6 turbo charged will favour developers like mercedes and ferrari/renault. Put SV in an average car andhe won't be able to make up the difference like alonso does
Vettel got lucky yesterday, if Alonso had DRS it would have been a two horse race.
So you've got one article quoting Bernie Ecclestone as saying the Bahraini government are "stupid" to host a Grand Prix, and another one in which he says they may well get a new five-year contract.Surely money isn't clouding his judgement.
with tire issue somewhat resolved we could concentrate on the racing. boring at the front but lots of action further back. i feel we did not get to see the show down b/t vettel/alonso,ferrar/red bull, hopefully the next time out. here are some more thoughts:http://amerf1can.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/vettel-whips-the-compititon-alonso-loses-ground-hamilton-shows-why-hes-worth-it-and-the-budda/
@415: fair enough. But remind you, Alfonso has not won the WDC since leaving Renault. And its not because he was stuck with bad cars. McLaren and Ferrari are always strong cars, LH and KR won WDCs with these cars in recent years. IMHO, Kimi is certainly the best driver in the current pack, but SV's results speak for him and his abilities. I aso think SV would have won WDC in a Ferrari or McLaren.
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