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Agree with many of you that, as an F1 driver only, it's tough to place Sir Stirling above Sir Jackie. Sir Stirling would actually be the best possible man to be compiling this list. I feel sure he'd have a good sense of where to put himself - behind Fangio, for sure and probably also behind Senna. Top 6 (in order): Fangio, Clark, Senna, MSC, Prost and Moss. I'd have had Sir Jackie at 4.
Until Sir Stirling's name appears we will know the answer to that one. Without question, Moss was a great driver. As I've said before the title of this is f1s greatest drivers, not greatest champions. I hope Moss is in there but to be above Sir Jackie doesn't seem right.
@ VonTrips I don't think any of us are doubting the fact that Moss was an awesome driver, I just don't think many of us can understand how he is going to be ahead of a 3time world champion such as JYS
Nevertheless, Moss won 16 races and gave some of the most electrifying performances ever put in by a racing driver: his 1961 wins at the Nurburgring and at Monte Carlo, along with his record-breaking 1955 Mille Miglia victory in a Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR, stand among the great drives of all time.
Between 1948 and 1962, he ran in over 460 races of all kinds, and he won 194 of them - a 43% victory rate. He finished in the top three over 65% of the time.
He was second in the championship every year between 1955 and 1958, third every year during 1959-'61. In 1958, the year Fangio retired, Moss had four wins to Mike Hawthorne's solitary victory, yet Hawthorne won the championship by one point. Moss told the writer Ken Purdy that it was then that the championship lost meaning for him.
Comment number 16. Robust Response "Well I cannot believe that wee jackie is below schumacher"Seven world titles, including five on the spin, is the reason for that. Obviously it's horses for courses but you can't argue with the stats in that respect. Then again, Senna is more or less a shoe-in for the top spot, so it wouldn't have surprised me if Stewart was above Schumi as well.
Moss was a warrior, a pure racing driver. He is the only one of the greats never to have won the world championship, but that was largely because, at least after Fangio retired and Moss seemed his sure successor, the Briton insisted on driving privately-owned, British-made cars whether or not they were truly competitive. Often they were not.
Stewart behind Moss hmmmm.
I'm surprised Sir Jackie hasn't made the top 3 , top 5 at least. the record of 28 GP victories stood for 14 years in an era of drivers dominating seasons like Fittipaldi, Hunt, Lauda, Andretti, Sheckter, Reutemann, Villenueve, Regazzoni, Peterson, Jones, Piquet...and eventually Prost who finally overtook his record. JS's Nurburgring victory in the wet was possibly one of the bravest drives ever.
"And unlike many former drivers, he even made a partial success of running his own team from 1997-99, winning a race thanks to Johnny Herbert before selling it on - at huge profit, typically - to Ford, the company who had helped him set it up."Who then turned it into Jaguar, from where it eventually developed into Red Bull Racing...
@139 But Moss did drive for Merc - simply the best car of the 55 season. He also did drive for Vanwall with the designer Colin Chapman. Also Rob Walker Racing didn't build their own cars . Driving a Cooper and a Lotus wasn't a bad thing in those days - and a lot would say, that in 60 and 61 the Rob Walker Lotus was the better Lotus.
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