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Andrew C. Nicole has never said anything bad about Lizzie. Lizzie continues to snipe and bicker in an appalling manner. She recognises that by once again rowing back later on. And as to cleanliness - one word from London 2012 Vinokorov. Andrew you obviously know little about cycling otherwise you would know that winning the Giro, Tour, World Cup, Champs and Olympics does not leave much else.
So Nicole hasn’t quit because no one wants her in their team due to her bad attitude? True maybe she could have won more but then cycling is a team sport and you need friends.
Greg Martin. Cycling has always been a professional sport fundamentally about business and sponsorship. The TdF was invented to rival Paris-Brest-Paris (which was run by a newspaper) and to publicise the journal L'Auto. The first winner was disqualified when it was found he'd done most of one stage by train. The idea that there's some corinthian ideal to return to is false.
Armistead is clearly wrong. In a week of stage managed Armstrong Cooke clearly stated what had been taken from others and the sport. Indeed Armistead in her lottery funded paradise clearly has no thought of others in countries that do not fund their athletes & her sport in general. Cooke gave the most cogent answer to Lance before he said a word.
2 people are dragging down the sport: One is Lance, the other is Come on Nicole, put the sport above your need for media attention. You're doing such a disservice to the clean revolution in cycling led by Britain by talking about doping in the present tense. You've done it more than once now, so it must be attention seeking. Pls shut up & stop tarnishing Britain's new clean cycling champs!
The problem is business, that's made sport a serious business, instead of human endeavour to be enjoyed by everyone. Which means professionals are easily pressured into cheating. Either diving in football or drugs in cycling. Let's force people like Cooke to use the same training budget as poorer countries. And let's start allowing real amatuers back into "elite" events instead of a select few.
Agreed. The doping in cycling prevents the really big sponsors entering-which would increase pay for those lower down the sport. Even clogging left-backs half-way down the Championship in football don't have to work once they've retired. The real Bernard Hinault spent years working the family farm after he retired.
BH: I understand this, nonetheless it does not make it acceptable to dope. If people stood up, then the culture of doping would not be anywhere near as strong as it is/has been in cycling. Nicole Cooke was a prodigious talent, but had other cyclists shown the morals and strength of character she did, the sport would be a better place.
Matthew S. I was just positing the position that many pro-cyclists would have taken in the past. 95% of them are not TdF winning superstars-they're domestiques on 30K/year who might be chopped from their teams at any point. They still have families and mortgages like the rest of us.
Bernard Hinault: It's totally different. Firstly, because most cyclists aren't "under the weather" and are actively looking to oush themselves beyond their and clean rider's capabilities. Secondly, whatever medication you're taking isn't illegally and thirdly your job probably isn't to be a well-paid sportsman in a highly publicised and competitive sport.
I'm feeling a bit under the weather today, so to perform up to my normal standard and not lose my job I've taken some flu medication. Is this much different to most of the doping in cycling. By the way, I'm not the real Bernard Hinault.
It's simple. Lie detectors. Singapore FA already do it.Ride/manage etc in a pro team, agree to:1) Amnesty period: certify have/have not ever used PE/drugs etc,like Sky. If you have & voluntarily confess=1 year ban. Free to compete afterwards.2) Annual lie detector test. If lied in1, life ban. Needs a bit more thought put into it. Oh, and yes the UCI's top clowns would be 1st to take the test!
Agree with Philip, Nicole Cooke has been a fine athlete and a credit to the country. Come on Lizzie give the whinging a rest now.
#103 Do you mean EPO could not be detected, or are you stating that the UCI was useless in anti-doping terms?I think the real problem of doping in many sports is that WADA and USADA would rather give second, 3rd or 4th chances to known dopers, and lets not forget the systemmatic hiding of PE drug use amongst US Athletes, possibly with the collusion of members of USADA.
Nicole Cooke is a top athlete who's success over the years has earned an awful lot of respect; she deserves to be heard and those opinions considered.An amazing retirement statement; well done.
The UCI keeps getting blamed for being lax in dopeing controls particularly in regards to EPO. The fact is that until relativeley recently UCI couldnt be detected, only it's probable effects.So, the setting of a max 50% haemocrit level was a responsible action and more than a lot of other sports bodies did.It then became a matter of policy by teams to dose riders to a 49% level.
@98 The kind of people who will sympathise with LA will be the non-cycling/casual fans who dont have a clue what it really takes to be a professional cyclist in terms of the hard work, sacrifice and super-human efforts required just to make it into the peloton.
Seems to me that Lizzie lacks class on this occassion similar to 2011 road race when she decided to blame others for her inability to keep on her bike. Lots of growing up to do I think
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