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25. Optimism with presenter Jon Snow

Ever heard Jon Snow singing R Kelly? Nor had we. Fi and Jane are joined by the journalist and broadcaster to talk Trump, egos, the future of news and being an optimist. And then Jon sings.

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Seven podcasts you'll love

Seven podcasts you'll love

A lovely list of podcasts that will make you feel cleverer and put a spring in your step.

The Listening Project

The Listening Project

Capturing the nation in conversation, with the British Library. Presented by Fi Glover.

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