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Mark Tully challenges perceived truths in religion and science. He considers how faith is not synonymous with certainty, and how lack of doubt can be detrimental.

Mark Tully invites us to challenge perceived truths in religion and science. He hears how faith is not synonymous with certainty, and how a lack of doubt, whether religious or scientific, is detrimental to both.

Mark is joined by Andrew Briggs, Professor of Nanomaterials at the University of Oxford, a practicing Christian and co-author of It Keeps Me Seeking: The Invitation from Science, Philosophy and Religion. They discuss the book's premise that a scientific outlook is not an alternative to a religious one, and that scientific knowledge does not replace the Great Truths of religion. Professor Briggs maintains that science is, “studying how God makes the world work,” and talks of, “a glorious entanglement” between religious and scientific questioning.

This entanglement is explored through the words of Mark Van Doren, Walt Whitman and the former Chief Rabbi, Jonathan Sachs - as well as the music of Ralph Vaughan Williams, Joseph Haydn and Charlie Parker.

Readers: Jasper Britton, Frank Stirling and Philippa Geering

Presented by Mark Tully
Produced by Adam Fowler

A 7digital Production for BBC Radio 4

28 minutes


Title: The Great Partnership: Science, Religion, and the Search for Meaning
Author: Jonathan Sacks
Published by Hodder and Stoughton

Title: God of Galaxies
Found in Verse and Universe
Author: Mark Van Doren
Published by Milkweed

Title: The Relation of Science and Religion
Author: Richard Feynman
Transcript of Caltech YMCA Lecture in May 1956

Title: The Old Wisdom
Found in Reason for Hope: A Spiritual Journey
Author: Jane Goodall
Published by Hachette UK

Title: Passage to India
Found in Leaves of Glass 
Author: Walt Whitman

Title: Diary Extract
Found in Life, Letters and Journals
Author: Maria Mitchell


Title: Three Revelations from the Lotus Sutra, II. “Contemplation”
Performer: Otonowa Wind Symphonica Ensemble
Composer: Alfred Reed
Album: Alfred Reed Live! Vol. 3: Giligia
Label: Klavier

Title: Marche Pontificale
Performer: Orchestra dell Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia
Composer: Charles Gounod
Album: A Hymn For The World
Label: DG
Cat: 4573552

Title: Psalm 111
Performer: Choir of St. John’s College Cambridge, George Guest
Composer: Jean Langlais
Album: The Sound of St. John’s
Label: Nimbus
Cat: NI5335

Title: Ko-Ko
Performer: Charlie Parker
Album: Complete Jazz Series 1945-1947
Label: Complete Jazz Series

Title: A Sea Symphony iv. The Explorers
Performer: BBC Symphony Chorus and Orchestra, Sir Andrew Davis
Composer: Ralph Vaughan Williams
Album: Teldec
Label/Cat: 8573-84070-2

Title: The Creation: Recitative “And God saw everything...” and Chorus “The great work is completed...”
Performer: Tölzer Knabenchor, Tafelmusik, Bruno Weil 
Composer: Joseph Haydn
Label: Sony Classical
Cat: SX2K 57965