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Nick Robinson talks to Unite general secretary Len McCluskey.

The Unite leader on why he wouldn't weep if Tony Blair left the Labour Party, the dangers of the gig economy and his enduring love of poetry.

This is an edited version of a conversation recorded earlier this year for the Radio 4 podcast, Political Thinking with Nick Robinson. Episodes of the podcast can be downloaded from https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04z203l/episodes/player

Producer: Peter Snowdon

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