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Surviving the Rwandan Genocide

How a six-year-old Clemantine Wamariya survived the Rwandan genocide after being separated from her parents.

Clemantine Wamariya on surviving the Rwandan genocide at age six after being separated from her parents. She and her 15 year old sister spent six years crossing Africa in search of safety, eventually finding their way to the US, where she earned a degree from Yale. Now a human rights advocate, she joins Jenni to talk about her experiences, which she has written about in her book, The Girl Who Smile Beads.

Black, Asian and minority ethnic women in business: what are the barriers to success, and how can one get on when representation's so low? Women business leaders from around the world have been meeting at the Women in Trade - or WINTRADE - conference, where they discussed the issue. We speak to lawyer and women's leadership campaigner, Dr Shola Mos-Shogbamimu, and Heather Melville OBE, Head of Business Inclusion for Commercial & Private Banking at NatWest and one of the UK's most senior black female businesswomen.

Also, 'The Human Swan': aviator and conservationist Sacha Dench who flew 7000km following the migration of endangered swans from the Arctic Circle. She's now become the first woman in 50 years to win the prestigious aviation award the Britannia Trophy. She joins Jenni to talk about her achievement, thrill-seeking, and how to get more women into aviation.

Plus, gardening icon Beth Chatto. Following her death at the age of 94, we celebrate her life and gardening legacy with her granddaughter Julia Boulton, and with garden and landscape designer, Matthew Wilson, who also knew Beth.

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41 minutes


  • BAME Women in Business

    Duration: 09:09

  • Beth Chatto

    Duration: 08:52

  • Clemantine Wamariya

    Duration: 12:29

  • Sacha Dench

    Duration: 07:25


Role Contributor
Presenter Jenni Murray
Producer Emma Wallace
Interviewed Guest Clemantine Wamariya
Interviewed Guest Julia Boulton
Interviewed Guest Matthew Wilson
Interviewed Guest Sacha Dench
Interviewed Guest Shola Mos-Shogbamimu
Interviewed Guest Heather Melville


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