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Jordan B Peterson

Chris is joined live in the studio by the international best-selling author Jordan B Peterson. He tells Chris all about his book 12 Rules For Life: An Antidote To Chaos.

Chris is joined live in the studio by the international best-selling author Jordan B Peterson. He tells Chris all about his book, 12 Rules For Life: An Antidote To Chaos, and also reveals the gems he didn't include in the book. After hearing the news that Rod Hull's Emu is up for auction, we ask for your claims to the fame of showbiz puppets. Vassos is joined in the Sports Locker by journalist Bryony Gordon to talk about Mental Health Awareness Week and this morning's Pause For Thought comes from the Bishop of Leeds, Nick Baines.

2 hours, 59 minutes

Music Played

  • Maroon 5

    Moves Like Jagger (feat. Christina Aguilera)

    • (CD Single).
    • A&M.
    • 1.
  • Go West

    King Of Wishful Thinking

    • Pretty Woman - Soundtrack.
    • EMI.
  • Dan Auerbach

    Shine On Me

    • Waiting On A Song.
    • Easy Eye Sound.
  • The Kinks

    You Really Got Me

    • The Singles Collection.
    • Sanctuary.
    • 7.
  • The Banana Splits

    The Tra La La Song (One Banana, Two Banana)

    • Television's Greatest Hits Vol. 5: In Living Color (Various Artists).
    • TVT Records.
  • Spiller

    Groovejet (If This Ain't Love) (feat. Sophie Ellis‐Bextor)

    • (CD Single).
    • Positiva.
  • Kim Wilde

    Kandy Krush

    • Here Come The Aliens.
    • Wildeflower Records.
  • Spandau Ballet


    • The Ultmate 80's Ballads (Various).
    • Polygram Tv.
  • P.M. Dawn

    Set Adrift On Memory Bliss

    • 100% Pure Love (Various Artists).
    • Island.
  • Smokie

    Living Next Door To Alice

    • Nicky Chinn & Mike Chapman: Classics From The 1970's & 80's Vols 1 & 2.
    • BMG.
  • Catherine McGrath


    • Talk Of This Town.
    • Warner Bros.
  • Roxy Music

    Same Old Scene

    • Bryan Ferry/Roxy Music - Street Life.
    • Eg.
  • Jamiroquai

    Canned Heat

    • (CD Single).
    • Sony.
  • The Coral

    In The Morning

    • (CD Single).
    • Deltasonic.
  • Status Quo


    • Whatever You Want - V.Best Of Status.
    • Polygram Tv.
  • Jess Glynne

    I'll Be There

    • Always In Between.
    • Atlantic.
  • Dua Lipa

    New Rules

    • Dua Lipa.
    • Warner Bros.
  • Talk Talk

    It's My Life

    • More Greatest Hits Of 80's (Various).
    • Disky.
  • Robert Palmer

    Addicted To Love

    • Fantastic 80's - 3 (Various Artists).
    • Sony Tv/Columbia.
  • Led Zeppelin

    When The Levee Breaks

    • Led Zeppelin - Early Days.
    • Atlantic.
  • The Beat starring Dave Wakeling

    How Can You Stand There?

    • (CD Single).
    • Here We Go Records.
  • The Beatles

    Hello, Goodbye

    • The Beatles - 1.
    • Apple.
    • 019.
  • Small Faces

    Tin Soldier

    • Million Sellers Vol.8 - The Sixties.
    • Disky.
  • Beck


    • Colors.
    • Virgin EMI.
  • Stone, Ted Hart & RAPOSO

    Sesame Street Theme

    • TVT.
  • R.E.M.

    Everybody Hurts

    • (CD Single).
    • Warner Bros.

Pause for Thought

Pause for Thought

From Nick Baines, the Bishop of Leeds:

It seems to me that some people are better at talking than others. I don’t mean just driving everyone else witless by endless rambling - the classic pub bore. What I mean is that some people find ways to open a valve and let the pressure out by putting into words what’s going on deep down inside them.

Remember that great REM song ‘Everybody hurts’? “Everybody hurts, sometimes, everybody cries.” There’s even a line about “Cause everybody hurts, take comfort in your friends.” It reminds me of that line in Crocodile Dundee when the Ozzie Outbacker responds to an explanation of New York ‘therapy’ with, “Haven’t you got any mates?”

Well, friends are important, but even the most gregarious people sometimes find themselves in a place best described as dark. And it’s easy then to think that you’re the only one who hurts - the only one who cries.

Now, I would say this, wouldn’t I, but anyone who reads the Bible will find utter realism here. People are portrayed as they are and stories are told that reveal a deep empathy with raw human experience - including what we now would call mental health challenges. Look at the Psalmists - poets writing three thousand years ago - who cry out of the depths and give us a vocabulary for pain and suffering. “How long, O Lord, how long” must we endure this suffering? “I feel like I am being hunted and there is no escape - who can I trust in this world?” These songs and poems are ripped from the heart of the sort of experiences many of us endure today.

But, the Psalmists also offer a different take. They shine a different light on this experience. “Where can I go from your presence?” one of them asks. “If I go up to the highest heights or down to the deepest depths, you are there. I go to the farthest east and the remotest west, and you are there, too.”

In other words, if you don’t find the words to express your own anguish, these guys have given you some. Everybody hurts, everybody cries, everybody bleeds. Just don’t believe the ones who say they don’t. And you are not alone. Everybody hurts. Sometimes.



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