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Nick Robinson chats to Private Eye editor and Have I Got News For You captain Ian Hislop.

In this series based on his popular podcast, Nick Robinson sits down for a chat with some of the people setting the agenda in politics today to get to know the person behind the public figure and find out what really makes them tick.

In this episode Nick meets the Private Eye editor and Have I Got News For You stalwart Ian Hislop. Ian explains why he is a sceptic but not a cynic, discusses his admiration for the Victorians' political energy and makes the case for why the Eye's satirical journalism matters.

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Producer: Faizal Farook.

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