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Cartoonist Jacky Fleming; Mother of Columbine killer; Fall in number of childminders

Iconic cartoonist Jacky Fleming on female genius and Sue Klebold, the mother of one of the Columbine High School killers, on living with the pain caused by her son.

Iconic cartoonist Jacky Fleming talks about female genius and her first book in 10 years The Trouble with Women.

Sue Klebold, the mother of one of the Columbine killers talks to Jane about living with the pain caused by her son. In 1999, two teenagers armed with bombs and guns walked into their school and began shooting. Twelve children and one teacher died at Colorado's Columbine High while another 24 were injured in what was then 'the worst school shooting in history'. Sue Klebold's son Dylan carried out the carefully planned attack along with Eric Harris before they shot themselves. Speaking in a rare interview, she describes her love for her son and attempts to find a reason for the tragedy.

The number of childminders in England has dropped by 10,000 in the past five years, putting pressure on childcare places and raising costs for working parents. Why are so many deciding to leave the work?

Flouting the dress code: being yourself or just plain rude? Hilary Alexander and Lucy Mangan discuss.

Presented by Jane Garvey
Produced by Jane Thurlow.

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58 minutes

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Tue 16 Feb 2016 10:00


  • Sue Klebold

    The mother of one of the Columbine killers

    Duration: 21:40

  • Fall in Number of Childminders

    Why has it happened and what is the effect on price?

    Duration: 07:35

  • Jacky Fleming

    The iconic cartoonist talks about female genius and her first book in 10 years

    Duration: 06:43

  • The Dress Code

    Should we all follow one?

    Duration: 05:40

Sue Klebold Interview

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Role Contributor
Presenter Jane Garvey
Producer Jane Thurlow
Interviewed Guest Sue Klebold
Interviewed Guest Liz Bayram
Interviewed Guest Dorothy Williams
Interviewed Guest Jacky Fleming
Interviewed Guest Hilary Alexander
Interviewed Guest Lucy Mangan


  • Tue 16 Feb 2016 10:00

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