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Philosopher Angie Hobbs

Anita Anand and JP Devlin with philosopher Angie Hobbs, poet Murray Lachlan Young, football coach Paul Watson and the Inheritance Tracks of Boycie from Only Fools and Horses.

Anita Anand and JP Devlin with philosopher Angie Hobbs, poet Murray Lachlan Young, 11 year old popster Fynnjan Leach-Verhoeven and his mum Su, Saturday Live listener Ted Chance who made it into the Culture Club Christmas video in 1983, international football coach Paul Watson, 4th generation Salvation Army member Janet Martin, Andy Miller who's just finished a song he started 35 years ago, and the Inheritance Tracks of Boycie from Only Fools and Horses.

Producer Dixi Stewart.

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1 hour, 28 minutes


Angie Hobbs

Angie Hobbs

Angie Hobbs is Professor of the Public Understanding of Philosophy at the University of Sheffield.


Murray Lachlan Young

Murray Lachlan Young
British performance poet Murray Lachlan Young

Christmas Single: The Spirit of Christmas

Christmas Single: The Spirit of Christmas

We've been following the story of eleven-year-old Fynnjan, who has Asperger's. He wrote the words and music to 'The Spirit of Christmas', which was such a hit locally that Fynnjan’s mum, Su Verhoeven decided to release it as a charity single in time for Christmas. We catch up with Fynnjan and his mum live in the studio.

Listen to Fynnjan on Saturday Live back in October and November.

I Was There: Culture Club Christmas video

Saturday Live listener Ted Chance contacted the programme to tell us about the time he appeared in 'Victims', the Culture Club Christmas video of 1983.



Paul Watson

Paul Watson

Paul Watson is an international football coach training teams in Micronesia and Mongolia. 

His book Up Pohnpei is published by Profile Books.  His documentary The Soccermen is due for release soon.


Paul's blog:  fourfourtwo

Janet Martin

Janet Martin

Janet Martin is a fourth generation Salvation Army Officer. Both her parents met in the Salvation Army and her grandparents and great grandparents were missionaries for the Church.  

God’s Cadets – Joining the Salvation Army, on BBC Four, Tuesday 7 January at 9.00pm

Inheritance Tracks of John Challis

Inheritance Tracks of John Challis

John Challis (AKA Boycie) chooses his Inheritance Tracks:


Peter Lind Hayes: Life Gets Tee-Jus, Don't It?


Whitesnake – Here I Go Again. 

Andy Miller

Andy Miller

Former sound engineer Andy Miller came on Saturday Live earlier this year to listen to a tape labelled ‘Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison bootleg’ which he’d once given to his daughter Jess. What he heard was a demo of a song he’d written over 35 years ago. Now he has finally finished the song.

Thank You

This week's Thank You's are from Anna, James and Florence. 

Studio picture

Studio picture

JP Devlin, Paul Watson, Janet Martin, Anita Anand, Fynnjan, Murray Lachlan Young, Angie Hobbs, Su Verhoeven. 

Murray's poem on 'Nothing'

If beyond everything there is nothing

And nothing knows nothing of things

And nothing knows nothing of nothing

Then everything’s everything


And for every thing to be something

First something must say things are things

For without a thing, to decide things are things

Tell me how can a thing be a thing?


For when looking at things we can see they are things

So we know and we say they are things

For they look like a thing and they act like a thing

So of course then they must be the thing.


But when something says something is nothing

Then nothing is know by by a thing

So the thing that said something is nothing

Makes nothing a thing that’s something


If beyond everything there is nothing

And nothing knows nothing of things

And something knows something of nothing

Can nothing not, not be a thing?

Murray's poem, A Word to the Wise

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That reason to some may not be clear

But reason there is and its simple

And I know I speak for the many who can’t be here


For there comes a moment in a persons lifetime

When a person must stand up and say

All the things that that person was thinking

But has never has had the chance to say-


On behalf of the people who say nothing

But would like to say something but don’t know what to say

To the people they think are not listening

To the things they thought that they wanted to say


About all of the things, out there that are, happening

And the things, out there that are, not happening as well

And all the things out there that might be on the verge of happening

But might or might not happen because it’s a little too early to tell


And if those people, have truly not been thinking of listening

To the things that the people who wanted to say something

But didn’t say it because they didn’t know what to say, had to say

Then someone really must speak out for those people

And that is why I stand before you here today.


For when I say what I shall say

Tall trees will bend and buildings sway

And word will spread from mouth to ear

From home to home, from far to near


From them to them from he to she

From near to far to she to he

And they my friends eventually

Those words will come right back to me


And I will hear what I have said

From those whose words I first did say

From thoughts they did not know they had

From the words I spoke first here today.


Thank  you.


Role Contributor
Presenter Anita Anand
Presenter JP Devlin
Interviewed Guest Angie Hobbs
Interviewed Guest Murray Lachlan Young
Interviewed Guest Fynnjan Leach-Verhoeven
Interviewed Guest Su Leach-Verhoeven
Interviewed Guest Ted Chance
Interviewed Guest Paul Watson
Interviewed Guest Janet Martin
Interviewed Guest Andy Miller
Producer Dixi Stewart


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Inheritance Tracks Podcast

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Listeners say thank you

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