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Tom Service is joined by celebrated film director Ken Loach and composer George Fenton, who talk about their 19-year collaboration.

As part of the BBC Sound of Cinema season Tom Service talks to acclaimed director Ken Loach and composer George Fenton who have collaborated on fourteen films together in the last two decades. Beginning in 1994 with Ladybird Ladybird, they have worked together on titles including Sweet Sixteen, My Name is Joe, Looking for Eric, and the Palme d'Or-winning The Wind that Shakes the Barley. Currently working on a new release for 2014 being filmed in Ireland, they take time out to talk to Tom about the role of music in Ken's films - how it can make the specific universal and bring to the fore real emotions rather than false ones. #BBCSoundofCinema.

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20 minutes