Shirley and Janie - A Journey Well-Travelled

Fi Glover presents a conversation between two women born into the traveller community who have come a long way educationally and are proud of the work they now do for the women, children and young people of the gipsy and traveller communities.

The Listening Project is a Radio 4 initiative that offers a snapshot of contemporary Britain in which people across the UK volunteer to have a conversation with someone close to them about a subject they've never discussed intimately before. The conversations are being gathered across the UK by teams of producers from local and national radio stations who facilitate each encounter. Every conversation - they're not BBC interviews, and that's an important difference - lasts up to an hour, and is then edited to extract the key moment of connection between the participants. Most of the unedited conversations are being archived by the British Library and used to build up a collection of voices capturing a unique portrait of the UK in the second decade of the millennium. You can upload your own conversations or just learn more about The Listening Project by visiting

Producer: Marya Burgess.

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Sun 12 Feb 2017 19:55

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