The new Easter series of Belief opens with a conversation between two baronesses: Joan Bakewell and Shirley Williams. Shirley Williams was born in 1930. Her father, the philosopher and political scientist George Catlin, was a great influence. He bought young Shirley a copy of TS Eliot's Four Quartets when she was two years old. He also introduced her to the Roman Catholic Church. She has also been greatly influenced by the moral and political convictions of her mother the feminist and pacifist writer, Vera Brittain. In this programme Shirley Williams talks about the convictions that have motivated her life in politics - and particularly about the inspiration she has taken from the example of Jesus, the Second Vatican Council and the establishment of the Welfare State - a political event she remembers first-hand.