Alan Caulfield - Feb '08
My Father John (Jack)Caulfield lived in a cottage
known as Cavehill Cottage - a thatched cottage which
was accessed by walking up the Upper Cavehill Rd until
the road petered out and became a limestone strewn
pathway which led up the slope towards the quarry area.
The cottage is still there to the left side of the
path but know has its own driveway and been well looked
after and renovated.
Just opposite the cottage on the other side of the
pathway was the sparkling well mentioned in other tales.
Everyone who walked the steep path on up the hill knew
this well as a stop for refreshment. You walked down
a steep little stairway made of rough stones to the
edge of a small gravel filled basin which was fed from
the cool stream coming off the Hill. It was for a long
time the only fresh water supply for the cottage and
I can remember as a child going to the well with white
enamel buckets with wooden handles to fill up with
water and carry back to my Gran.This was in the 1940
- 1950's. My Grandfather William Adair Caulfield was
a postman and married to Nelly Caulfield (nee Ellen
Wisener)) from Lisnagunague outside Bushmills.
I remember my father Jack telling me that my Grandfather
was paid a small sum - I think £5 - to keep a
large rock at the top of Cavehill (on the forehead)
painted white as it was used as a beacon during the
war for pilots landing at Nutts Corner airfield during
blackouts when the lights of Belfast could not be seen.
I also remember a story of a neolithic grave being
discovered on their land close to the Cottage - has
anyone any memories of this time and place?
Weby Alan - Dec '07
It would really nice if we people were told were exactly the bomber crashed
so we can lay down flowers for the men that lost there lives fighting for us
and their country. One like this were forgotten about until the ring was found.
It's really a film i'm looking farward to see and I hope a plaque was rested
after the film was made. My heart goes out to those men and may they rest in
I know there is a stone in Belview zoo beside the
cafe, saying that a bomber had crashed near by. The
Floral Hall is down the hill a good bit and its said
it landed near it, again are we not allowed the truth
??..I go to Caramoney grave yard and visit my family,
when I'm finished Ii move over to the
older part on other side of the road and visit the
mass grave which not many people in belfast know about.
This is a mass grave of CHILDREN and ADULTS which
were killed during the war. Me and a few friends had
contacted City Hall in regard to this and asked why
wasn't there a marking there and just a small grass
At a later stage, the area was marked with a
lovely hedge and a beautiful head stone - next time
your passing pop in and see yourself, that is kind
of thing im talking about for the guys in the bomber.
Ok it's not their grave but it would be nice to know
and lay a wreath down every 11,11,
God bless guys and rest with the angels.
Callum Wilson - Dec '07
If it had not been for Alfie Montgomery who had found
the ring, this would have been another bit of history
lost about the Cavehill.
Stephen Mcwatters - Apr '07
I spend a lot of time on the hill,and no it like the back of my hand.Its great to her so many people enjoy the cavehill,and the fond memories they have of it.
Mary Graham - Apr '07
I went home recently to Belfast and was saddened to see the amount of urban sprawl , leading up into the Cave hill.
I hope with all my heart they will not destroy the landscape.
They have already destroyed the glen.
I have fond memories, playing every day during the summer, I always remember the ruins of an old house and wondering who once lived there.
I grew up in the Ballysillan area and am now living in Canada.
Malcolm Heath - Dec '06
Hi, One of my buddies is the nephew of Flight Lt. Joseph
V. Nobilione, who was the navigator on the B-17G, serial
number 42-97862, that crashed into Cave Hill on June
The pilot was Lester B. Brooks. The crash was recorded
under inquiry number 12-440601-500 USAF. Total 12 pages.
Unfortunately, all the crew perished in the crash. Joe
was from New York and my buddie, Frank, lives in Locust
We would dearly love to know the location of the graves,
particularly that of Joe. If anyone knows were these
braves boys' remains are buired, we would be highly
appreciated to hear from you.
We would also like to erect a small monument for them
on the hill. My name is Malcolm Heath and my email address
is heathmt @ msn .com
Paul Clarke - Aug '06
I have become very interested in the stories of the
B17 which crashed into the Cave Hill during WW2. I want
to research the story in detail and would be grateful
for more information or guidanece which may help. I
would be grateful if anyone with relevant information,
especially those with personal reminiscences would contact
me at pclarkeathome @ aol.com. Does anyone know of photograhs
or newsreports of the crash? Thankyou.
Kay - June '06
In response to Colin McKernon's question about the german
aircraft crashing during the war...
Your mother is not far wrong Colin. A military aricraft
did crash on Cavehill during the Second World War, but
it was American not German. I am not sure how the story
goes, but I was told that the American plane was returning
to base (after a mission or after practice I suppose)
but a fog had covered Cavehill and the poor pilot flying
too low, crashed right into the top of the Cavehill.
Hopefully someone can verify my version or give you
a better answer. Hope I have been of some help to you.
Terry Jay Cooper- June '06
I just found this site, I have been living in England
for almost 50 years now, but I still go back every couple
of years, and I always try to get up to Cave Hill -
fond memories of the whole area. I was born near Glengormley,
way back in '29, and we moved to Belfast at the beginning
of the war. I was also one of the boys who clambered
up Cave Hill to gawk at the crashed American Bomber.
Great site, I hope to visit it on a regular basis.
Robert - Feb '06
Stumbled upon this great site by chance I have a six
year old boy who is very interested in the ww2 bomber
that crashed on the hillside.If anyone could shed some
light on the exact whereabouts of the crash it would
be greatly appreciated.
Tommy - Jan '06
Sam, I was born and raised in the street below you,
Stratford Gardens, and I also have great memories of
the Carr's Glen and the Cavehill, and I remember your
scout troop in the cottage on the side of the hill,
we helped your troop one day to put out a large fire
on the hill, just to the right of your cottage. Oh for
those lazy hazy days of summer, long gone.
Sam Speers - Jan '06
I was born in 1942 in Velsheda Park Ardoyne.
I remember going every Friday night to a boy scout meeting
in Hesketh Park and afterwards rucksack on my back treking
up the Cave Hill to some cottages the troop had rented.
Sometimes alone and others accompanied. This was from
1953-57. I have incredible recollections of the glen,
the lane, the camels humps, the quarry, the Horseshoe
bend and the hazelwoods. I loved growing up in Belfast
at that time playing churchie-one-over in the street
before going to bed and making slides of ice down the
street slope in winter. In the scouts, I was a very
good rope spinner as well as yarn-spinner ha!ha!
John J - Jan '06
I assume that everyone knows why Napoleon's
Nose is so called. From a certain angle, eg going up
the lower part of Cavehill Road, the rocky promontory
forms the nose, Cavehill the brow - and there is also
a chin - of a reclining head. That's true - my father
told me so and he always new everything! And, when I
looked for myself, it was true.
Bob Smith - Jan '06
Yes, John J. I well remember the bellevue buses.
They ran from the main entrance up the steep, winding
road to the plateau on the top. I remember the passangers
sat in rows facing forward and there was a narrow running
board along the whole length of the bus. The conductor
had to be as agile as one of the monkeys in the zoo
above as he swung from row to row via the running board,
collecting fares. As schoolboys in the 1940s, we used
to hop on to the rear bumper in the hope of getting
a free ride and the conductors would get rid of us by
snatching our caps off our heads and chucking them away.
MartyMac, Belfast - Jan '06
I have been reading the theories as to where
the name Throne originates and what connection it may
have with the Cave Hill. I have got another theory for
you. As you may know, part of the Cave Hill is known
locally as Napoleon's Nose. The following excerpt from
a local website explains it: "This brings me to
the matter of Napoleon's Nose, a popular soubriquet
for almost two hundred years. Before that it would have
been simply "the nose". There are numerous
hills or mountains in the Scottish Highlands named "An
t-Sron" which is Gaelic for "the nose"
and which is pronounced, approximately as "untrone".
This accounts for the name of an area on the Antrim
Road, under McArt's Fort, which is called "the
Throne". "The nose" was a translation
into English, and "The Throne" resulted from
a change of meaning due to a similarity in sound."
Elizabeth K.C. Madill: April 2000. Whatever the real
reason may be, I fully understand people's fascination
with the Cave Hill, while at school, I used to spend
my summer holidays on it's slopes and know every part
of it and whenever I have friends from other parts visiting,
it's the first place I take them.
John J - Jan '06
Belfast Zoo and Floral Hall have been mentioned.
I have been trying to remember about the open topped
bus that used to run in the grounds and cannot remember
exactly whether it ran only from the entrance up to
the top or whether it ran from the terminus that was
just past the Antrim Road / North Circular Road junction
and St. Peter's C of I Church. We called them Toast
Racks because of the slatted wooden seats. Does anyone
remember (I'm talking about the 50's)?
I remember Floral Hall. A girl in my class had a birthday
party in a room there - and she kissed me! At age 8
it made a lasting memory. It's really great to see that
the area still stirs the memory.
Bob Smith - Jan '06
Lovely to read the memories of Cave Hill which towered
above where I lived as a boy. I actually witnessed the
American B17 Flying Fortress crash into the lower slopes
during the war. Most of the hill was hidden under a
thick blanket of fog and the bomber just flew straight
into it. I remember myself and a few pals who were early
on the scene, managed to salvage belts of maching gun
ammunition only to have them confiscated by the police
who toured the schools threatening a terrible fate if
we didn't hand them over!
Karen Wesley - Dec '05
I was borrn in Belfast in 1944 and lived in Prestwick
Park, off the Ballysillan Road. My earliest memories
are those of Prestwick Park and Cavehill. I remember
when I was about three my father used to take me for
a walk. We would cross the Ballysillan Road at the top
of Prestwick Park (after passing through a little wooded
area) and walk up a lane that my father called Carr's
Glen. It always seemed to be muddy and I remember there
were black and white cows which sometimes we had to
walk past in the lane. I remember being very frightened
of the cows so probably had to be carried by my father.
We moved to England in 1948 and often returned to Belfast
for holidays. Both myself and my younger brother always
remembered Cavehill and looked out for it. Two years
ago we both paid a visit to Belfast together with our
partners. We were not disappointed but my only regret
was not having time to climb Cavehill........still next
Jim - Dec '05
Please do keep these wonderful comments coming in -
they're all fascinating and I hope BBC do keep this
section of the site open and available to all from near
and far for many years to come. The Cave Hill is really
a truly magical place and whether we're fortunate enough
to see it every day or perhaps now only in our fondest
memories of years long long since gone, the Cave Hill
will always have a resonance in our memories and a significance
for all of us who have "been there" - it's
what makes us rooted in Belfast and it's part of who
we all are.
Wolfie (Canada) - November
Belvue and Robin's Well (Divis Mtn.)
When I was about 15, I went with a few pals to Belvue
and, to cut a long story short, while looking up to
the 60 foot small cliff to my left , I saw someone fall
to the trees and bushes below; just like a ragdoll.
I shouted to my pals 'did youse see that?' Didn't really
wait for my comment to sink in and I started running
up into the forest in the direction of the fall. After
looking around on the forest floor, I found a wee fellow
of around 8-11 years old. He had a bad head injury and
was unconscious. Somehow I instinctively knew not to
move him and one of my pals, who had followed me up,
ran and had an ambulance come. This happened in the
late 50s (approx 1957-1958). I always wonder from time
to time what happened to the wee fella.
Changing the subject slightly; when I used to roam
Carr's Glen, we called the small hills leading to the
Cave Hill area 'The camels humps' I remember 'tickling
trout' in the Carr's Glen river. Roamed Divis Mountain
for many a year as a kid. Loved the hatchet field, the
bluebell field, St. Mary's cricket club and not to forget,
the river changing colour every day, courtesy of Glenbank
mill. Loved to walk to the outer limits of our universe;
We always used to look down into the well's water to
see the one resident trout. Didn't have the foggiest
idea at that time that my granny had spent all her life
as a young girl living in the house at the well. Her
parents had come down from Co. Tyrone and her dad crossed
the fields every day to work somewhere on the Crumlin
Sheila McAdam - November '05
Delighted to hear so many people still walk over Cavehill.
I was born in Mileriver Street and every Sunday morning
my father took the four of us over the hill while mother
made dinner. (After dinner we had another walk).
I visited Belfast Castle this summer and found the
heritage centre to be a wealth of information about
the area. In later years I married and went to live
in the Cregagh area but my mother wasn't happy coming
to visit as she didn't like to be out of sight of the
Cave Hill. We lived in Castleton Gardens during the
war so were there all through the blitz. My father wouldn't
let us go to the ceilidh in the Ard Scoil on Easter
Tuesday, otherwise we might have been in the Air Raid
Shelter at top of Atlantic Ave which got a direct hit,
killing all occupants, I believe 17.
I have great memories of walking up Cavehill Rd under
the arches. Does anyone remember Norah's grave which
we always visited. At Belfast Castle it tells the whole
story of Norah and George. I now live in Canada.
Sean, Bellevue - November '05
My pleasure Rob, I'm sure you have read Alice Milligan's
most beautiful of poems about our Cavehill.
Look up from the streets of the city
look high beyond tower and mist
what hand of what Titan sculptor
smote the crags on the mountain vast
Made when the world was fashioned
meant with the world to last
that glorious face of the sleeper
that slumbers above Belfast
Rob Harbinson - November '05
Thanks Sean, you answered my unasked question. I was
trying to remember the name of the park that we used
to go to on the cave hill. Where the Floral Hall was,
also the Zoo. "Hazelwood"!!!!
Rob Harbinson - November '05
Just found out about this site. Great to read it, 'specially
as I have lived in USA since '68. Dave Sloan brought
back a few memories just by mentioning Bellevue Zoo.
Anyone else remember The Floral Hall?
Sean, Bellevue - November '05
Gazing through the hazelwoods below
I am dazaled by it's atmosphere of history
As generations of disciplies have trod the ground of
palestine Tiss birth right to whom I am endebted For
it has afforded me, my peace and glory But this selfish
feeling of possession
Has not been mine alone.
For ctizens past and present
Who recalled in tale and song
Those delights on Easter Monday
And maybe if you dare to climb
Ben Madigan of old,
If you too are smitt
let not it be told.
Some of the emotions our Cavehill stirs in me.
Greg Thompson - October '05
My late Grandmother's first husband was from the Antrim
Road area and one day, after visiting his mother, he
went for a walk on Cave Hill. My Grandmother expecting
their first child at the time. During his walk the ground
gave way beneath him and he fell to his death.
This was just after World War Two. My Grandmother was
made a widow at an early age. My late Grandfather's
first wife died shortly after giving birth to one of
her children and they went on to meet each other and
fall in love.
I often visit Cave Hill now and wonder where it was
that my Grandmother's first husband was killed.
- Oct 05
Re -query by H Stewart June 2005, about Mammystown and
Daddystown, Cavehill Belfast. Yes, these cottages were
about 2/3 & 1/3 mile uphill from old stone, arched
bridge carrying Ballysillan Road over Cavehill Road.
A railway ran at one time, under bridge, down from the
Quarry, down Cavehill Rd. to Limestone Rd. and docks.
With a friend, I once stayed overnight in Mammystown
, the higher-up of the two, maybe in early 40's. My
friend's father was in North Belfast Harriers - - -
who rented the cottage. The walls inside had clippings
of Harrier events!
In 2000, or was it 1996, I went up Carr's Glen &
over fields to Mammystown, but only found debris, weeds
and old mossy stones ! Both Mammystown & Daddystown
were on an old road running Northwesterly, away from
, the Limestone Railway. This old road was overgrown,
even in the 40's, but had hawthorn hedges on both sides,
it came out on the Upper Hightown Road above the Horseshoe
Between the Blitz 1941, and 1952 my family home was
in the Deerpark Rd/ Deerpark Drive area, before that,
the Limestone Road area --- so the Cavehill was a wonderful
wilderness area for kids and adults ! In a paperback
book " North Belfast " is a photograph of
Mammystown with reference to refugees, due to the Blitz
- - - staying there in 1941.
I remember as a small boy, my dad taking me to "
Trundle" colour-dyed Easter Eggs - - - somewhere
uphill from the old bridge over Cavehill Road and Ballysillan
Road ! Then, there were also cottages just lower from
the bridge, and the Harriers had their club Hall there
too. At the lower end of the Limestone Quarry was the
clearest, purest bubbling spring water, you only had
to kneel down ! Always a stopping place, going uphill
or down !
See " Ordnance Survey Northern Ireland Greater
Belfast, street map, scale 1: 12000. "
Charles Cooke - Oct '05
What a lovely site to find. I too lived as a boy below
the cave hill. I was told that debris just above the
nursery garden thats above St Gerards was the place
the bomber plane came down I remember seeing the remains
back in the fifties .
William - Sept '05
I was born in a house which backed on to Carr's Glen
& my father came from the Limestone Rd . He seems
to know about the railway & the old cottages with
a small water wheel at the side . At 46 I only recall
one cottage where a wee old woman lived until the mid
60's then it fell into disrepair.
They were about 500yrds up the "Glen" from
the Ballysillan ( ps. the pathways were made by me originally
on my m'bike ! Whoa ! What an achievement ! SAD LAD)
anyway , to the person asking about the old quarry 8
gauge railway , it ran from the bottom of the Limestone
up the Cavhill Rd into the Upper Cavehill Rd straight
on up the "Hill" to the "Quarry"
or the "Mounds" as we called it . The only
indication now is a narrow path between 2 fields lined
It can also be easly reached from the path to Belfast
Castle . To the left of it is a huge crater which was
caused by a bomb dropped off course by a German plane
during a raid ! Not the crash site of the plane which
i believe was American and indeed crashed just north
of the castle after getting lost from a base in England
! Lastly McCarts Fort - All Iknow is what I've seen
myself of it - just north of the zoo there is a large
" hill ?" at the top of which is a rusted
monument with the name of the fort on it (don't remember
what else but the view really is amazing as the mound
of earth juts out from the side of the hill whereas
the top of the hill doesn't really have a high point
on it) As a child it was often referred to me as the
" Seat of Kings " The story has it that the
Kings of Antrim and Down planned their escape to France
( Flight of the Earls ) in a small wooden castle (McCarts
Fort) just there . Having been there believe me you
CAN see both Antrim & Down at the same time and
to climb there would be the perfect place of safety
. If anyone can tell me more i would be very interested
as i don't believe anyone would carry half a ton of
metal up there on the basis of a myth- try carrying
a Labrador !
Ruairi Mac Leanachain - Sept '05
The Throne on the Cave Hill was known as the Giant's
Chair. There is a debate whether it was the coronation
throne of the O'Neills or not as there was another throne
in the Castlereagh area which was said also to have
been used by the O'Neills.
Ancient throning chairs were usually situated in high
places with a hollow in which the foot of the would
be chieftain was placed however on the Cave Hill Throne
a stone had been added to it in the shape of a glove
to allow the right hand to be placed in it.
The Cave Hill Throne was destroyed by loyalists in
December 1896 after a reference was made to it in an
article in the nationalist paper 'Shan Van Bocht'. Parts
of it may be avilable to view at the Ulster Museum.
Si Samuel Ferguson did indeed build his house 'The Throne'
in reference to this feature.
A native of N.I. - August '05
"MCCCARTS FORT'- IS IT REAL? ?"
I remember as a child hearing stories of McCarts Fort.
(Not sure if spelling is correct) As I'm returning to
N.I. quite soon to visit I wondered if anyone could
let me know if this is a real fort & if so its whereabouts
as I've told my family that if possible we'll go to
see it. Can anyone tell me if it does or ever did exist?
Please post any answers on site. Many thanks. Kind regards.
Tommy - July '05
Just found the website, I have been around the world
in my young days, and every time I came up the Belfast
lough and looked up to the Cavehill, I knew I was home,
what a beautiful sight.
Neil - July '05
Sorry if this has been mentioned before but today me
and my dad went up to Napoleon's nose and after eating
our lunch we went to the hill behind McArts Fort there
we found a depression in the ground with about five
or six large boulders circling the dip. Does anyone
know what this may be?
Jim - July '05
Further to my May '05 comment about the crashed WWII
bomber - in case anyone is interested - I was walking
on Cavehill recently with a party of other people and
one of them remembered the crash occurring and visiting
the site shortly afterwards (presumably as a young boy)
where he found part of the fleece lining from an airman's
jacket. He told me that the bomber crashed what sounded
like a little bit above the Floral Hall and at a location
that I understood from him to be about where the spider
monkey enclosure would now be in the Belfast Zoo or
slightly further over towards the foot of Napoleon's
nose perhaps, maybe where the Polar Bear enclosure is.
Does anyone have any more information?
H Stewart - June '05
Does anyone know about two terraces of cottages on the
slopes of the Cavehill, one near the quarry, which were
called Mammy's town and Daddy's town ?
[ed: see reply above by Irvine
Jones in October 05]
Jim - May 05
Colin McKernon mentions a German Bomber crashing into
the side of Cave Hill. I'm just a bit too young to remenber
anything other than, as a wee boy in the 1950's, it
being mentioned to me that the Germans had bombed Belfast.
I believed that the large crater below the caves (the
"Devil's Punchbowl"??) was caused by a German
bomb and I found, and still to this day, find that strange
large inverted cone of a depression in the ground fascinating
- whatever the geological or mechanical orgins. But
back to the crashed bomber - I was at a business meeting
a few years ago and a well-known Belfast industrialist
told me that he was standing at a bus stop on the Antrim
Road, Belfast, going to school (BRA) one morning during
WWII when he heard a plane flying very low overhead
in apparently very poor and misty conditions. There
was a loud explosion and it was clear that the aircraft
had flown into the side of the Cave Hill. The gentleman
in question told me that he forgot all about school
and made his way directly to the scene where army/police
were keeping spectators back from the scene. I believe
that it might have been an American not a German bomber.
As a postscript - was there to be made a Holywood movie
called "the Ring" about someone who found
a ring at this crash site and returned it to the family
of one of the deceased American airmen. Anyone know
anything about that or am I imagining this?
Kim Irwin - March '05
Does anybody know the story of the Cavehill diamond?
Florrie Binn - March '05
I think that the query below relates to an article written
by Mr Cathal O' Byrne ( As I Roved Out ) regarding the
ancient crowning throne of the Antrim / Down branch
of the O' Neill Clan.
Indeed, logic dictates that if your lands covered the
counties An trim and Down there would be no better place
to oversee your Kingdom than on top of the Cave Hill.
The sad thing to report is that in about 1898 a number
of youths - ones without historical sentiment - went
to the site armed with picks and bars and prized the
ancient monument from its foundations, only to let it
succumb to gravity over the cliff edge. I believe that,
if so inclined, a thorough search of the foot of the
cliff might just turn up some debris of the ancient
Peter - February '05
Hi everybody, I have just come across this webpage and
I'm glad to see so many people taking an interest in
the Cavehill and its history. I was born and raised
under its shadow but have only recently started to become
curious about those who have gone before me and their
impact on their environment.
I'm hoping someone can tell me something about the
stones set in a depression on top of the rath which
sits behind McArts fort as you look towards squires
hill. I know there are rumours of more caves on the
hill and was wondering if perhaps a well or something
had been filled in?
All the best, Peter.
Philip Hull - February '05
My father has climbed to all the caves in the Cavehill.
Rosetta Laddie - December 04
My sister and I were evacuated during the war to Dromara,
but we both cried all the time and so we were sent back
home. I don't suppose we were there more than a couple
of days. Still we survived, LOL
David Martin, New York State - November
Back in 1950, my brother, sister, mother, and I were
visiting Belfast, mainly to see my grandfather. We took
a couple tours of CaveHill. My brother and I had loads
of fun trying to climb the rock face. I have been back
to the Belfast area a few times, in the 70's, but, had
forgot about Cave Hill. It was nice to see it again
in your pictures. Still have family living in the Belfast
area. I live in Niagara Falls, N.Y. I hope to get back
to Ireland some day.
Brian O'Neill - October '04
Yes I do know where the stone is it was broke into a
thousand pieces by a by the lord deputy of Ireland.
This was back in 1609 I think, after the excile of"
THE ONEILL" Hugh O'Neill Earl of Tyrone. The O'Neills
never coronated any of their clan on cave hill. They
were coronated outside Cookstown and of course at Navan
Fort long before the English destroyed the clan system
Jim Turkington - September '04
I live quite close to the Cavehill and over the years
I have been intrigued about the old Cavehill railway
( or tramway ). I have been trying to find out for myself
all about this marvelous feat of engineering, but the
only info I came across is old photos on display in
the Cavehill Inn" and the shape of the Antrim/Cavehill/Limestone
junction is a feature of the railway course. There used
to be a street at the bottom of the Limestone called
Tramway St. I also have seen old maps of Belfast (circa
1889) showing the railway at the lower end of the Limestone.
- July 2004
Is the Cavehill an old volcano?
M. Regan - May 2004
Yea, I know where it is [coronation stone].
It's located on the right hand side of Napoleon's nose,
or to the left if you approach it along the back path.
It is heavily eroded and covered in graffiti.
Stephen Hall - May 2004
The note about the inaugral thone of the O'NEILLS smashed
Could it be that it is in fact still there. The rock
that is from time painted a different set of colours.
It is a white rock and I have known it from my childhood.
I did hear tell that the O'Neills guarded valuables
in the caves that are apparently linked.
I have never heard of the throne before but if you walk
up to that white rock now, or what ever colour it happens
to be at the moment, it is rather throne like and you
can survey the land below like a bit of royalty.
Who knows, there could be some link with the rath at
MacArt's fort and the inaugral throne. The rath could
have begun life as a ritual site due to its location.
This is of course speculation but it is certainly the
right sort of height and a very special place.
The Cavehill. Those of us who grew up there all feel
we belong to the hill. It is special to us. Now that
is an ancient emotion indeed and a fairly natural response
to "The Sleeper".
Margaret McCroskery, Castlerobin Residents
Group - May '04
Whitemountain Lisnagarvey (ring of the forts) once home
to the kings of ulster the o'neills. now this place
on the mullaghglass road will become a dumping ground
for several councils to dump their rubbish. you can
help by supporting the castlerobin residents take their
story to the press. thanks to bbc radio ulster for their
coverage. all environmental and wildlife issues are
important to us. whitemountain/mullaghglass was the
route over colin/divis /black mountain to cavehill to
mc arts fort part of history. read this in any history
on the mountain castlerobin.
Jake - May '04
Lovely hill, lovely memories, its the best thing just
to look up at the hill, or to look down from it ,at
the beautiful views of Belfast and the lough. Its home!!
William Gregg - April '04
During the late sixties and early seventies I lived
in The Boys' Model area, in fact right at the foot of
the Glen. Many times I walked with my dog for miles
up through the Glen, towards the Quarry, and then up
towards Napolean's Nose. I remember once, as my father
and I came down through the back of Belfast Castle our
dog went missing and at the same time we noticed an
awful smell. We went merrily along but It turned out
the next day in the "Tellie" that the body
of a homeless man had been found. Last year I paid a
flying visit to Belfast and I stayed in The Landsdowne
on the Antrim Road, right at the foot of the Cavehill.
The sight of the Cavehill, just coming out of the morning
mist brought back memories from years ago.
Susan Close - April 04
What a wonderful topic - I live in the valley with the
Cavehill and Carnmoney hill as my 'protectors' - The
cavehill holds a huge place in my heart - Every morning
I have a 30 minute dander with the Cavehill in full
view...and everyday it looks different...very mystical
when there's fog. I won't ever tire at the sight of
it. It is home. I sound like an old timer...I am infact
I took my son there over easter....to the zoo...for
tradition's sake. With our hard boiled eggs we spent
all morning painting. It was bunged to the gills ....it
brings the good ol' folk of N.Ireland together irrespective
of religion which is always a good thing :o) We go hiking
up there quite a bit over the better weather - it can
be a bit dangerous as I fell down the devils slide and
broke my a** hahaha...it was my own fault so don't let
that put you off going. The views are breath taking....words
don't describe. Makes you feel like you're king of the
world. lol. The heritage it holds is extremely intriguing.....
go for a visit....the mountain ~( as I call it....coz
technically it should be a mountain not a hill ~) really
is worth a day out.
If you'd like any questions answered or directions
give me a shout - I'd be more than happy to help - take
P.S someone queried how to actually get up there...well
if you come along the antrim road and take the turn
up to the 'cavehill country park' (watch coz blink &
you'll miss it) and walk up to Belfast castle ....go
around the back and walk towards town...once you pass
its car park you'll see a sign on the left....with a
map & info - walk up there and you can follow the recommended
route to save you getting lost. Hope that helps. Good
Courtnie (March 2004)
Does anybody know how to get to Cavehill? I study in
Ulster University at Jordanstown. I am eager to go there!
Tons of people recommend me to go!
Belfast Castle on the Antrim Road, in North Belfast
lies on the lower slopes of Cavehill. Belfast Castle
is surrounded by Cave Hill Country Park. A walk through
this park will bring you up onto Cavehill. I hope this
is helpful and that you enjoy your visit. Let us know
how you get on..
Green Eyes writes:
The inaugural throne of the O'Neills stood on Cavehill
until 1896 when it was rolled over the summit by anti-Irish
protesters and smashed to smithereens at the base. The
residence named after it belonged to a Sir Samuel Ferguson
and was subsequently a hospital/convalescent home. I
got this info from an old book of anecdotes about Belfast
'As I Roved Out' by Cathal O'Byrne.
Colin Mc Kernon sent the following
My mother in law remembers a german aircraft
crashing into the Cave Hill overlooking Belfast in 1941.
Do any others have a memory of this?
I do not remember hearing of
a German plane crashing on the Cavehill but I clearly
remember as a very young child how my family, along
with many many others from north Belfast, spent nights
sleeping on the slopes of the hill in the hope of
escaping from whatever air raids might take place.
Unfortunately my mother tired of this nightly trek
with four children and on the night of the Easter
Tuesday air raid we were at home on the Antrim Road
which was quite badly bombed.
woohoooo guys every one tha loves the cave hill go
to this link and lend your hands and hearts to what
we love most,, cave hill is to get a face lift and they
are seeking Volunteers to help even a few hours,every
minute counts.. paths will be mended ect ,i did post
long ago in regard to this and its like a dream come
true that something is going to be done, details and
email address is with http://www.cvni.org/ for those
intrested.. it would be intresting to see how many actuly
post here that will be there and meet on what we chat