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March 2004
Forgotten Fairytales

Steve Young

Steve Young

Steve, 39, was born in London, brought up in Wellingborough and now lives in Northampton. He's a support worker for the Northamptonshire Police Hate Crimes Unit. He talks about his experiences as a gay man.
Out at 13    

Even in those very early years, I was a very effeminate child, so there were always questions asked and comments made. I was very much the 'sissy' from as far back as I can ever remember, so obviously that kind of coloured part of my childhood which ultimately led to my decision to come out.

I was 13 and had just started secondary school. I kind of thought: 'well, I'm just going to come out and tell the truth; I don't have an issue with this. I've finally worked out what I want out of life.'

"I'd had it instilled into me by my parents and everyone else I loved and respected to tell the truth. And, of course, at 13 I did tell the truth. But nobody else seemed to be able to deal with it."

I very soon learnt to regret it. I would never advise anyone to come out when they're at Secondary School. It threw up a whole load of stuff for me that was very confusing for a 13-year-old.

I'd had it instilled into me by my parents and everyone else I loved and respected to tell the truth. And, of course, at 13 I did tell the truth. But nobody else seemed to be able to deal with it. I was very confused by all the comments made.

My mother, who loved me madly, simply couldn't deal with it. I was carted off to psychiatrists and was constantly bombarded with comments like: 'it's a phase' and 'he'll grow out of it'. They were certainly testing times.

The positive thing about my mum - although it isn't very positive - is that she tried to deal with it. She tried to deal with it badly, but she did try to deal with it. My father was just completely absent.

I told my mum first. We were standing in the kitchen. I told her and she hit the roof shouting and hollering. My father came into the kitchen to see what was going on. And my mum said: "He thinks he's queer." My father said: "Don't be so bloody ridiculous. I was in the army!" And he walked out. It was never spoken about again. From that point, he was not interested.

It took me many, many, many years to suss that whole situation out. It certainly wasn't until after his death I worked out that it wasn't a case of him withdrawing from me: he simply had no terms of reference. He was a much older man and was in his 60s when I was 13. He simply couldn't relate to it; he had no terms of reference; it went straight over his head; he couldn't deal with it. That's not a fault in him - he was a product of his time.

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Cottaging    

Steve Young
"They explained to me that there were certain toilets in Wellingborough. Well, I was in there like a shot! Bingo! Christmas!"

When I first came out, when I was 13, the only scene was cottaging. I met a couple of gay men in Wellingborough and I remember it as clear as day. We were walking through what was then the Arndale Centre, and these were new friends of mine.

One of them was called Michael and he said: "Just remember, you've still got to go to school and don't spend all your time cottaging." And I'm like: "Cottaging, what's cottaging?" And they explained to me that there were certain toilets in Wellingborough. Well, I was in there like a shot! Bingo! Christmas!

Gay Northamptonshire    


Northampton is a strange town in that it's obviously got a rich and long history of LGB people being here, which is unusual for a town of this size in a rural location.

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I've heard more than one person say that in post Second World War Northampton there was a bar in town called The Black Boy. It's now now the HSBC bank but apparently upstairs in The Black Boy was the bar for 'theatricals' and other 'light footed people'. I can only assume they meant gay men.

I think that's pretty amazing when you look at the timescale. You kind of think gay history in this country didn't start before the 60s. But no, we've always been here. What's really sad is that we've got no record of it.

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There has always been at least one, usually two gay venues in the town. I find that peculiar to Northampton. I can't think of any other town of a comparable size that has always had one or two venues.

Milton Keynes now has a gay venue but for years Milton Keynes had nowhere. There are towns far bigger than this. Go into the Fenlands - past Peterborough it's a wasteland! There is nothing! There has always been a gay heartbeat in Northampton.

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Steve Young
"The action those fields saw at 2 o'clock in the morning with all those gay men was wonderful. It could be raining or snowing but there they were, shagging in the fields - It makes you proud to be British!"

Clopton is a tiny little village on the other side of Thrapston in the middle of nowhere. There is a pub in Clopton - I can't even remember what the pub is called - but at the back of the car park, they had this barn. God knows how it happened, but they started running a gay disco on a Saturday night, and it was fabulous!

Primarily, from my point of view, it was fabulous because it was very near the American Airforce base and all these American boys kept going there and it was like: 'Oh, I'll have some of this!'.

It was outrageous for its day [the early 1980s]. There was a crappy little mobile disco in the corner with two sets of three-coloured lights that used to flash alternately, and a bar at one end. But it was surrounded by countryside. The action those fields saw at 2 o'clock in the morning with all those gay men was wonderful. You'd get back to your car and turn your headlamps on and there'd be people shagging in the hedgerow. It could be raining or snowing, but there they were shagging in the fields - It makes you proud to be British!

It was a thing of its time. I have no idea how it started, I don't even remember how or why it ended. But for the couple of years it was running, it was absolutely great. I must have been 16/17 at the time and was on the dole because it was the time of mass unemployment, and I would save all my dole cheques so I could get over there once a fortnight. It was great. And there was a tinge of glamour with all these American Gi-types. I'm so sad it went.

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The Alliance    


As times changed locally, things did start to happen on a political level in Northamptonshire. And certainly around the time when Section 28 was first muted, people started to get very nervous. That, locally, ended in a group of people getting together (I wasn't part of that group at that time) and did some stuff politically around stopping Clause 28, as it was then. As we all know, that didn't happen.

The left-over from that locally was that people started saying: 'well, actually, there are a whole bunch of issues here in this town that we're not dealing with. We do have a gay population and it's about time we said something'.

From that, meetings were organised. I went to the second meeting. From that meeting we ended up with the Northamptonshire Lesbian, Gay Bisexual Alliance. I've had both a working relationship and a social relationship with the Alliance from conception.

That's extremely important to me because I firmly believe that to win the big battle, you have to fight all the little battles and the little battles are often fought in towns just like Northampton and counties like Northamptonshire. If we can change all of them, we then change the bigger picture.

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The future    

In towns like Wellingborough there are no gay venues. Sadly, the reality is that for a lot of men your options are toilets or nothing. You get very little support through the education system; it's extremely unlikely that you're going to get support from your family; but what you may well have found out - usually through the local press - is that if you go to a certain park at a certain time of night there are going to be men that go there for sex.

I think one of our biggest failings in our education system is that if someone's sexuality was seen as a positive thing and was nurtured in the appropriate way, people might grow up in a situation where they didn't feel they need to go round in draughty parks at midnight with absolutely no one knowing where they are and put themselves at that kind of risk.
Have you got a 'forgotten fairytale' to tell about growing up or living in Northamptonshire? We want to include your story on these pages. Contact us by email: northamptonshire@bbc.co.uk
Also see:
• Have your say on Forgotten Fairytales
• More Forgotten Fairytales
• Hated because you're gay
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