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March
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 John D Lillyman John D Lillyman was a writer and painter
from Northampton. Sadly, John died at
the age of 47 in December 2004. In
March 2004 he was involved with the Forgotten Fairytales project.
Below is his story. John
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| The
Princess Royal |
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I
went to the Princess Royal on the Wellingborough Road. Thank
God for that place, that's all I can say! A beer was 12p a half
and 24p a pint. That was Stella Artois. That's frightening,
when you think how much it is now. But that's how long ago it
was.
I was 14. I only looked 10. I don't know how I managed to get
away with it
well, I know how I got away with it: young,
cute thing, 'in the knowledge' and up for a bit of action. 1976/1977
was wonderful.
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| "The
landlady was called Ruby. She had what models would pray
for: she had these kind of cubit lips. And she was a gin
swiller; she had this little 50s cocktail bar in the corner.
She called all the men 'her boys'." |
The
Princess Royal was really a strange place. The landlady was
called Ruby. She had what models would pray for: she had these
kind of cubit lips. And she was a gin swiller; she had this
little 50s cocktail bar in the corner of his bar. She called
all the men 'her boys'. And she had this really strange, tall
husband but nobody could work out if it actually was her husband
or her son.
But the atmosphere was tremendous. It had been a gay pub for
years and years. I was fortunate enough to live over the road.
It was lovely going in and out of there and seeing what was
going on and meeting people.
Ruby
didn't like me because she had this back yard which had a
window box with tulips in it; they were her pride and joy.
A friend and I, quite horribly I suppose, chopped the tulips,
wrapped them up as a florist would and gave them to her. She
was overjoyed until about half-an-hour later she needed to
unburden her gin-soaked bladder and suddenly there was this
huge scream and she saw the stalks of these prized tulips.
She banned us for about three weeks. And that was quite devastating.
They
opened the nightclub upstairs which was superb. It was gays
and lesbians, young people, old people - brilliant camaraderie
because we were a little bit revolutionary. They were people
who were definitely 'out'. They didn't mind being seen going
in and out of the pub. We had great fun and I made a lot of
friends that I still know.
There used to be these awful supper nights because you couldn't
run a late license. You'd arrive and be given a raffle ticket.
Half way through the evening you would stop and they would
say: 'supper is served' and you'd have to go and get a side
plate that had this curled up spam, an almost liquid piece
of lettuce and a tomato that would now be called a sundried
tomato. That was to get a supper license so you could run
the club until 2 o'clock in the morning. Well, that always
went down a laugh actually. We always knew the newcomers because
it was they who'd eat the food off the sideplates. It was
vile. It was a very enjoyable and a very happy place. As far
as I was concerned, it was brilliant.
Listen
to John talking about the Princess Royal (Real 56k, 3'54") Use
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| Prejudice |
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The funny thing is, within gay society and all this 'body
beautiful', I have been to a gay pub and felt very conspicuous
because I was there with my walking stick and immediately
thought: 'these people are going to believe I've got AIDS/HIV'.
And I've spoken to someone else who's seen exactly the same
situation. He has a crutch because he has a problem with his
leg and he said: "I swear to God when I walk into a pub
or a club that everybody thinks I've got Aids."
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| "Due
to gay society's hedonism and body perfect and everything
else I'm obviously not a prime candidate for getting anyone
between the sheets." |
I
think that's a failure on gay society's part.
And
then I have been to other institutions that actually deal
with AIDS and HIV, and the crazy thing is they kind of treat
you like you're a piece of glass.
I'm disabled - that's it, simple. I'm not AIDS, HIV or anything.
And yet, when I walked in they were all over me as if 'Oh
my God, I might break!'. They immediately thought I had AIDS
or HIV because I walked through THAT door, which I found pretty
rank actually. I found that quite disturbing.
So I tend not to go to gay clubs or gay pubs any more because,
firstly I feel uncomfortable, secondly - due to gay society's
hedonism and body perfect and everything else - I'm obviously
not a prime candidate for getting anyone between the sheets.
So I just don't bother any more.
Listen
to John talking about prejudice (Real 56k, 1'56") Use
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A
website has been set up in memory of John D Lillyman: www.john-lillyman.memory-of.com The BBC is not responsible for the content
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