South Africa's Nomvula Mxobane was introduced to punch needling by her employer Andel Olivier.
Together, they now run a thriving small business using social media as their market place.
Their Julie Baby Punch business has attracted other women who are learning how to punch to earn living.
"It's like we are teaching other people you must do things with your hands. There's no job but you can create a job by yourself," Joana Banda one of the women punching says.
The business was born during South Africa's first Covid-19 hard lockdown.
"I was just sitting doing nothing ... I tried and got there and I loved it, it was not so easy but when I start to do it I see oh this is easy I can do it and then I go for it," Ms Mxobane says.
Other nannies in the neighbourhood have joined her and they have secured big orders from interior designers with help from their employers.
Here is her full interview with the BBC's Focus on Africa: