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Summary

  1. The Finance Committee takes evidence on the UK Autumn Statement and Scotland’s budget from the director of the Fraser of Allander Institute
  2. Health and sport ministers are in the hot seats for portfolio questions
  3. Finance Secretary Derek Mackay gives a ministerial statement on the Autumn Statement
  4. The Scottish Green Party have the floor as they lead two debates, the first on education followed by local democracy
  5. Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale will then lead a debate marking World AIDS Day 2016, in which she will call for an end to HIV-related stigma

Live Reporting

By Colin Bell and Craig Hutchison

All times stated are UK

That's all from Holyrood Live

Holyrood
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That's all from Holyrood Live for Wednesday 30 November 2016.

We'll be back tomorrow morning with the Public Audit Committee at 9am. 

Have a good night. 

Happy St Andrew's day from you all and from us!

That concludes the debate on World AIDS Day

Red ribbon
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That concludes the debate on World AIDS Day.

Minister says stigma has been the major theme of tonight's debate

The minister says many people have highlighted the impact PrEP could have.

Aileen Campbell
BBC

Ms Campbell says the government is committed to making sure people have access to new and innovative medicines.

She says stigma has been the major theme of tonight's debate.

The public health minister says everyone must agree that HIV/AIDS stigma is not retro its wrong.

She says she is proud that 28 years from now those that look at this debate will see one of compassion, tolerance and understanding.

'There is no place for HIV stigma in Scotland today'

Minister says while treatment is effective, prevention of infection is best

Ms Campbell says she is sure many people will raise awareness of HIV tomorrow and will try to tackle HIV stigma.

Kezia Dugdale and Aileen Campbell
BBC

The public health minister says in Scotland there is very good treatment for HIV/AIDS.

She says while treatment is effective, prevention of infections is best.

Ms Dugdale asks about the difficulty of people in rural areas to access treatment and testing.

Ms Campbell says this is something she has asked her officials to look into.

Minister remembers the work of Princess Diana in tackling HIV/AIDS stigma

Public Health Minister Aileen Campbell thanks Kezia Dugdale and all the speakers in this debate for their contributions.

Princess Diana
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Minister remembers the work of Princess Diana in tackling HIV/AIDS stigma

Ms Campbell says the impact of Terence Higgins has been profound.

She says she remembers the adverts on AIDS and the work of Princess Diana.

Labour MSP says 'there is still so much more to do'

Labour MSP Daniel Johnson
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Labour MSP Daniel Johnson

Labour MSP Daniel Johnson says like so many in the chamber AIDS has been something people of his generation have grown up with.

Mr Johnson says HIV/AIDS has been defined by fear since the 80s.

He says it is absolutely right that we have moved on from using AIDS as a playground taunt.

Mr Johnson says: "There is still so much more to do." 

Tory MSP praises work on anti-HIV stigma strategy

HIV is not a disease of the past says Tory MSP

Scottish Conservative MSP Jamie Greene says he spoke at the Youth Stop Aids event last week in Glasgow.

Youth Stop Aids website
Youth Stop Aids

Mr Greene says he was struck by the personal accounts of some of those dealing with an HIV positive diagnosis and the level of support available.

He says this is not an disease of the past.

He says stigma and fear play a big part and, he can speak from personal experience, that fear is a part of going for a test. 

SNP MSP says development of PrEP presents a real opportunity in HIV prevention

HIV STIGMA: NOT RETRO, JUST WRONG

World AIDS Day
World AIDS Day

SNP MSP Tom Arthur highlights the theme of this year's World AIDS Day: 

HIV STIGMA: NOT RETRO, JUST WRONG

Outbreak of HIV in those who inject drugs in Glasgow says Labour MSP

Monica Lennon
Scottish Parliament

Scottish Labour MSP Monica Lennon says the situation, treatment and care for those living with HIV now is better than it was even a couple of decades ago. 

Ms Lennon says there is currently an outbreak of HIV in those who inject drugs in Glasgow. 

She says any rise in those contracting HIV is alarming.

The Labour MSP says education and awareness of the disease is important in tackling it. 

Praise for Anas Sarwar's contribution

Green MSP says the iceberg Aids advert only accentuated fear

Scottish Green co-convener Patrick Harvie congratulates Kezia Dugdale for bringing this important debate to the chamber.

Scottish Green co-convener Patrick Harvie
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Scottish Green co-convener Patrick Harvie

Mr Harvie says the iceberg advert accentuated the fears around AIDS but did nothing at all to address the illness, amidst vitriol in the tabloid press.

The Green MSP says he remembers moments in youth work when someone would say they had a positive diagnosis.

SNP MSP Emma Harper says she has lost friends to AIDS in response to a thank you for her contribution

Labour MSP says great progress has been made, but we can't be complacent

Labour MSP Anas Sarwar says the tone of this debate sends the very best message about the work that is done at Holyrood.

Labour MSP Anas Sarwar
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Labour MSP Anas Sarwar

Mr Sarwar praises HIV Scotland and he remembers the stigma around AIDS when he was at school.

He says great progress has been made, but we can't be complacent.

Mr Sarwar says HIV and AIDS must be tackled around the world.

Kezia Dugdale says there is still so much to do to tackle HIV and AIDS

One of the biggest barriers to getting people tested is HIV stigma says Tory MSP

Conservative MSP Donald Cameron also highlights the theme of tomorrow's World AIDS Day which is tackling stigma.

Conservative MSP Donald Cameron
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Conservative MSP Donald Cameron

Mr Cameron says tackling stigma is fundamentally linked with prevention.

He says one of the biggest barriers to getting people tested is HIV stigma.

'These are our fellow human-beings' - SNP MSP

SNP MSP Emma Harper recalls the American basketball player Magic Johnson announcing he is HIV positive.

Emma Harper
BBC

Ms Harper says Magic Johnson is a heterosexual man and this is when she remembers many in society coming to the realisation that it can affect anyone regardless of sexual orientation. 

She says there is still a stigma attached to the disease and there needs to be more education on it.

"These are our fellow human-beings," she says. 

Background: Waverley Care

"Waverley Care is Scotland’s HIV and Hepatitis C charity.

"We are a community of diverse and inspiring people united by the same goal – to make a positive difference in the lives of people affected by HIV or Hepatitis C in Scotland.

"Our work is focused on prevention, education, testing and support. Throughout Scotland we’re reducing new HIV and Hepatitis C infections, getting people diagnosed and supporting those affected in whatever ways they need. We’re also busy challenging stigma.

Waverley Care
Waverley Care
Waverley Care

"Behind each of these goals are individual stories which is why, throughout all of our services, we make sure it’s always about the people. No matter who we work with, we strive for everyone we meet to feel respected and encouraged.

"In all that we do, we never give up on people and are always there to walk alongside anyone affected by HIV or Hepatitis C."

Background: The Terrence Higgins Trust

The Terrence Higgins trust
The Terrence Higgins trust

The Terrence Higgins trust are the largest voluntary sector provider of HIV and sexual health services in the UK, running services out of local centres across Great Britain. 

Background: HIV Scotland

HIV Scotland says: 

"Knowing the facts about HIV keeps you and others protected and is the best way to help end the stigma surrounding HIV. This is important in ensuring that people living with HIV are treated with dignity, respect and fairness.

"Read all about getting tested for HIV here. And if you're looking for information on the new self-test kits, you can find everything you need to know here."Do you know the facts about HIV? It is important to know what role you can play in preventing HIV transmission. Find out the facts about HIV here."

HIV Scotland
HIV Scotland
HIV Scotland

"If you have just found out you have HIV you may be feeling anxious and worried. Improvements in treatments mean its possible to have a normal healthy life expectance. Click here to make sure you have access to the right information and support."If you are a friend, relative or partner of someone who has HIV, you may not know that HIV is now a manageable long-term condition with a normal life expectancy. Click here to learn more."Knowing your HIV status puts you in control, if you want to know more about HIV testing and what to expect, click here."

Ms Dugdale says fear and ignorance about HIV can be defeated by education

Ms Dugdale says today there has been vast progress with HIV one of the most scrutinised diseases in the world.

She says: "There is still no vaccine and no cure, but we are close."

The Scottish Labour leader says fear and ignorance still exist today.

She says education can defeat them.

Ms Dugdale pays tribute to HIV Scotland, the Terence Higgins Trus and Waverly Care

Edinburgh was the AIDS capital of Europe in the 80s says Scottish Labour leader

Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale
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Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale

Ms Dugdale says Edinburgh was during the 80s the AIDS capital of Europe and Muirhouse was the epicentre.

The Scottish Labour leader says sharing needles in Muirhouse was literally a game of Russian roulette.

She praises the work of Waverly Care, which now assists people with AIDS to live their lives properly.

The Scottish Labour leader says it is hard to remember the outrage at Princess Diana holding the hand of an AIDS victim.

Labour Leader a child of the 1980s when Aids first became known

Scottish Labour Leader Kezia Dugdale says she is a member of the Terrance Higgins trust and Terrance Higgins is the first person in the UK to die from Aids. 

Terrence Higgins, Kezia Dugdale and Mark Fowler
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Ms Dugdale mentions both Terrance Higgins, the first person in the UK to die from Aids, and Mark Fowler, a character battling HIV in EastEnders.

Ms Dugdale says she is a child of the 1980s when Aids first became known.

The Scottish Labour Leader says everyone was aware of the disease spreading and can remember the publicity which was put through people's letterboxes at Margaret Thatcher's command.

She says she remembers watching the character of Mark Fowler battle with HIV in EastEnders. 

Ms Dugdale uses her motion to say there are approximately 6,150 people living with HIV in Scotland

Ms Dugdale uses her motion to highlight: 

  • the 28th annual World AIDS Day is being marked on 1 December 2016
  • this is an opportunity to remember the estimated 35 million people who have died from AIDS-related illnesses since the start of the epidemic
  • recognises the importance of high-quality treatment for the 36.7 million people currently living with HIV across the world
  • supports efforts to meet the UN 90-90-90 goals, which would help end the global AIDS epidemic
  • understands that there are approximately 6,150 people living with HIV in Scotland

Background: World Aids Day 2016

World Aids Day 2016
UNAIDS

Tomorrow is World AIDS Day.

Michel Sidibé, Executive Director of UNAIDS, Under-Secretary-General of the United Nations says:

"We stand in solidarity with the 78million people who have become infected with HIV and remember the 35 million who have died from AIDS-related illnesses since the first cases of HIV were reported."

Watch the World Aids Day message here. 

World AIDS Day 2016 debate

Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale will now lead a debate marking World AIDS Day 2016.

Ms Dugdale is calling for an end to HIV-related stigma. 

Here is her motion.

Kezia Dugdale motion
Scottish Parliament

MSPs agree to the LCM on the Policing and Crime Bill

MSPs agree to the LCM on the Policing and Crime Bill.

The Scottish Greens motion as amended is

The Scottish Greens motion on local democracy as amended is agreed with 96 for and 27 against there were no abstentions. 

Scottish Greens motion
Scottish Parliament
Tory amendment
Scottish Parliament

The Scottish Conservative amendment is agreed to

The Scottish Conservative amendment on local democracy is agreed to with 92 MSPs backing it and with 21 against.

Tory amendment
Scottish Parliament

The Scottish government amendment is rejected on the vote of the presiding officer

The Scottish government amendment on local democracy is agreed to with 61 MSPs backing it and 61 against.

Presiding Officer Ken Macintosh uses his casting vote to vote against the amendment and thus it is not agreed.

Scottish government amendment
Scottish Parliament

The Scottish Greens motion as amended on education is agreed to

The Scottish Greens motion as amended on education is agreed to with 83 MSPs backing it and with 34 against and with 6 abstentions.

Green motion
Scottish Parliament
Government amendment
Scottish Parliament

The Scottish government amendment on education is agreed to

the Scottish government amendment on education is agreed to with 62 MSPs backing it and 61 against and the amendment from Tory MSP Liz Smith falls.

Scottish government amendment
Scottish Parliament

Decision Time

We now come to decision time