Rachel Reeves on Labour's Universal Credit plans
Labour will "get the cost of social security under control" said the shadow work and pensions secretary.
Rachel Reeves said Labour would take a "hard-headed" look at the Universal Credit plan, and that social security spending in the current parliament was going to be higher than the government had set out.
She told Andrew Neil: "Labour are the party of work, we are not the party of welfare."
They also discussed polling for the party and its leader.