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"Oh Lilian, swap brothers" - listener discussions to 24 October 2012

Tayler Cresswell Tayler Cresswell | 12:12 PM, Wednesday, 31 October 2012

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Look out Ambridge, James Bellamy is back. Listeners suspect that his arrival signals the end of one or possibly two relationships before long. Many say they'll put up with him if he does the trick!

Is Elizabeth about to be tempted "out of her widow's weeds"? As Ifty comes calling, they think it won't be long before Kirsty's crying into her dessert once again.

And "churlish" Emma Grundy is upset with Will after he treats George to a toffee apple. Most listeners think she's being unfair.

Here's my pick of listener discussions on The Archers message board, Twitter and Facebook between 18-24 October 2012.


Run for cover folks! James Bellamy is back in town. Some think his appearance signals the death knell for Lilian and Matt's relationship. Or perhaps Tom and Brenda's? If "whining" James is around till Christmas, some worry for their sanity. But there is one festive scenario that just might work...

How to get rid of Wwhining James.. Tell Tracey Horrible that he fancies her - sit back and watch...... (EmilyBronte on the message board)

I agree it seems unfair on Trace, but it would be worth it if only for one scene... James, stuck and immobile in his plaster cast, around the Horrobin Christmas table, complete with a droopy paper hat and equally droopy spirits, with only the prospect of The Great Escape to look forward to. (peter-francis on the message board)

Oh God, I may have to not listen to #thearchers for the duration of James' convalescence. He makes me homicidal. (@ginaandcrumpets on Twitter)

Matt WILL love having James around!!!!! *tee hee* #thearchers (@Bethan1967 on Twitter)

Matt kicking his plaster would be great fun! And then both of them pointing fingers at each other when Lillian gets back home, just like toddlers - "He was mean!" "No, HE was mean!" (charmingAnnielynn on the message board)

I expect the majority of clinical and nursing staff who've met him want to put him on the Felpersham Care Pathway. I'm surprised he's not been whacked already. (Feral_Ralph on the message board)

I like the fact James gets under Matt's skin. Between Paul and James' efforts Matt will be ousted. One day it will be very satisfying because finally, finally Lillian will say no to James. And in kitchens and cars all around the realm there will be cheers! (Charlotte Evans on Facebook)

Join the debate on the message board threads: How to get rid of Whining James and So will Matt kill James?


As Lilian turns to Paul in her hour of need, many raised a cheer. Perhaps it's time she left "nasty Matt"

HURRAH FOR LILLIAN! #hurrahforlillian #thearchers (@Mudkipstoat23 on Twitter)

Frankly Lillian you are far too good a business woman and woman woman to be lumbered with Matt Crawford.... #thearchers (@potterwigwam on Twitter)

I hope Matt enjoyed that cigar. It's going to cost him his relationship with Lilian, his front for his business, his home and possibly his sanity if James stays for three months. (snarklehound on the message board)

I think Paul is the one who is going to get hurt in all this, Lil is just using him. (Auntie Molly on the message board)

Lilian!!!!! The first time your partner does not jump through hoops just because your idiot son hurts his leg, you do not phone your partner's brother who you have got the hots for......it can only end up one way. (Diamontelil on the message board)

Lillian has been covertly searching for an excuse to call Paul ever since she found out he was in the vicinity. This was her moment ... after all, it might never come again. James broke his leg - but not in vain! (The devil wears Burberry on the message board)

Oh Lillian, swap brothers. It worked for Emma. Less so for Ed mind you. #thearchers (@knittingpenguin on Twitter)

Have your say on the I hope Matt enjoyed that cigar and Lilian !!!!!!! threads on the message board.


Tom gets similar treatment after he treated Brenda to a Christmas marketing brainstorm in the guise of a pub lunch.

What is wrong with her? All that work she's doing for him... she should have a share of the company or at least some sort of legal recompense. Or maybe just kill him and be done with it... (the_shellgrottolady on the message board)

I'd have stuffed his beef & horseradish down his miserable throat. (Carolyn on the message board)

I think James will be bored, and as it is only his leg that is damaged, will start turning his attention to Brenda for entertainment. (Ima Burygirl on Facebook)

Poor Brenda (never thought I'd say that) Tom *&* James RUN HONEYBUNCH! #thearchers (@MUSEmunkey on Twitter)

If you were Brenda, what would you do? Add your thoughts on the message board thread: Kill him.


Was there a spark of chemistry between Elizabeth and Ifty as they discussed Freddie's extra maths tuition? And will poor Kirsty face another break up over dessert?

Methinks someone may be tempting Elizabeth Pargetter out of her widow's weeds..Look out Kirsty! #TheArchers (@shimmy41a on the message board)

But does this mean for the third time in her emotional career, poor old Kirst will be taken for a slap up meal - expect a proposal and then get 'it's not you, it's me'? And they were all Archer connected. (GreenBrownBear on the message board)

I think a developing relationship with Lizzie, Freddie idolising him and Lily seeing straight through him might make for a bit of fun! (Andrew-R on the message board)

Join the speculation in the Ooh, Nifty and Lizard thread.


A tussle over a toffee apple saw Will and Emma at loggerheads on Sunday. Was Emma right to be upset as Will "splashed the cash"? Most think not.

SO, because she can't afford things, NO one else is allowed to have money? It's not like willyum heard her say that he couldn't have a toffee apple (Perkin Warbeck on the message board)

I think she had good reason to be annoyed about the guinea pig, less about the karate suit and none at all about the toffee apple. Silly Emma. And twice silly; if she was wondering whether or not Will knows she and Ed are struggling for money, well, she's just told him, hasn't she? (JustJanie - Fairweather Jogger on the message board)

If William really wants to be helpful, he should put his treat money to things that Ed and Emma really need for George, not karate kits and guinea pigs. (Lakey_Hill on the message board)

In their own way, Will and Emma match each other perfectly. #Karma #TheArchers (@Airscaper on Twitter)

Emma has double standards. How can you begrudge your children a small treat whilst grabbing a £150 one for yourself. Would she have been so churlish if Susan or Neil had offered the toffee apples, or Eddie and Clarrie? I doubt it. It's only Will. (Mrs Miggins on the message board)

Team Will or Team Emma? Add your thoughts to the How very dare you Willyum thread on the message board.


Tayler Cresswell is host of The Archers message board.

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