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16:22 18 Aug 2011
I am not an old person, I am in my early 30's and I listened to Radio 7 since my oldest daughter was born back in 2006. I loved Radio 7 it was my constant companion the whole family would listen. I hate the new 4 extra. I was once an avid listener I would turn on the radio and turn off the TV now I do the opposite because I won't listen to Desert Island Poo as my daughter has dubbed it and the constant repeated pap they have imported from Radio 4.
Radio 4 Extra you have lost three generations of listeners. My children have nothing to listen to anymore and I now borrow suitable listening CD and books from the library. My mum gave up. The is nothing for me to listen to as I cannot stand listening to the same programme repeated more than once a day, I am easy going listener I will listen to most things but there is nothing challenging nothing amusing and nothing wonderful anymore. With the amount of audio books available why is Harry Potter or Kathy Reichs, or Louise Rennisons books not on the Radio. Step up to the mark and allow the listeners to listen to good quality entertainment I hate having to change the station when Desert Island Poo starts. You are losing your audience you need to listen and not keep coming up with excuses or false the over 55's where the only people who listened to Cbbies on the radio my children are 5 and 2 and until you got rid of it they listened every day and where so disappointed that you cut it from the schedule.
22:55 3 Aug 2011
I agree with your comments Washishu.
Whose bright idea was it to have a comedian Mitch Benn to introduce the Seventh Dimension?
Mitch Benn is fine on comedy programmes, but on SD he tries to be funny, by mocking classics, such as Journey Into Space, and it is highly irritating. I just can't listen to him doing it.
This "branded drivel" also extends to other programmes. I have heard vintage crime being knocked for posh accents, and the names of characters in classic dramas mis pronounced. We also learn far more than we would ever want to about the opinions of these people
These announcers don't do this kind of thing on Radio 4, but it seems as if they feel they have been let out of school and anything goes on 4Extra.
Those of us who listened to Radio7 do not like being talked down to. Please tell them to stop. I have hesitantly come back to the station, but this is ruining it for me.
11:03 1 Aug 2011
Like many of the contributors here (I suspect), I took part in the consultation process. It was clear then that the Radio 7 re-branding was going to go ahead no matter what. I was previously a dedicated Radio 4 + Radio 7 listener, switching between the two frequently—The Archers? Not to my taste; switch to 7; Navy Lark? Didn't like it when I heard it as a child, now it's dated rubbish; switch to 4.
So, I've tried to be dispassionate and objective. I've given it time to settle in. It's still poor. I don't agree with the rationale behind the change, but even by that rationale, I don't understand the change(s).
Enough has been said above about the content changes.
One notable aspect of Radio 4 is the absence of inane station jingles so why populate Radio 4X with the most inane jingles before, after and often during every single continuity announcement? Perhaps that's the Extra.
A second feature of Radio 4 has always been the announcers'/presenters' respect for listeners intelligence. Although I have my favourites and some I don't care for, even the worst are better by miles than other continuity announcers you can buy. Mel Giedroyc is the exception. I can't decide whether she thinks listeners are idiots or if maybe she is simply doing what she's been told to do, as there is a general shift away from the straight-forward announcements of Radio 7 to a "branded" drivel.
Like so many here, I used to listen to Radio 7 for hours and simply tolerated those programmes that weren't to my personal taste or switched back to Radio 4. Now I switch off and I miss it terribly sometimes.
10:53 21 Jul 2011
I did not read the removed post, but how about this for an idea... instead of removing posts, why not address the flaming issue?
19:45 18 Jul 2011
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00:50 14 Jul 2011
the other change that irritates me is that there is to much talking programmes like 'what is so funny with marcus hound' not funny laughing at himself all the time, repeats of loose ends.... arrrrrggggghhhhh
and what about the crime hour and science fiction hour, could we have something new rather the continued repeats along with much of the comedy. At least with the comedy some of it bears repeat as you can laugh again but if you have heard the crime and science fiction 6 times already on radio 7 then they don't really benefit from even more repeats along with the repeats of the likes of the Now show days after they have already been on radio 4 twice, what is that about. most people can listen to the repeats on the i player.
12:23 12 Jul 2011
4 Extra is dreadfull! We have lost a lot of comedy (despite BBC claiming the opposite). After all, we used to have seperate comedy playing on Radio 4 and Radio 7, but now we get almost immediate repeats from 4 to 4extra. Listener choice has been reduced.
I no longer have my radio on for hours as I once did, and positively avoid all the Dessert Island Discs (if I had wanted to listen to that I would have tuned into Radio 4 in the first place).
As for the presenters... well! The Radio 4 presenters don't have the right approach whilst voicing the links, and the proliferation of inane drivveling interviews as time fillers drive me to distraction.
For goodness sake, listen to your audience and sort it out!! But the cynical side of me says you won't, that when you can produce figures to show audience share has dropped dramatically you can then close it with a clear mind.
You took your digital jewel (Radio 7) and swapped it for a stone.
20:07 6 Jul 2011
What are you doing to Radio4extra?!
Three examples of madness hidden in the digital schedules:
Meet David Sedaris: Series 2 first run on 4extra not Radio4 as any normal listener would expect. Meanwhile the repeats of series 1 are to be found on Radio4! Why?
Dad's Army: First 13 episodes of radio series 1 broadcast (of 20) and then with no reason it has been taken off.
Ambridge Extra: Great spin-off of a very long running radio soap. Broadcast as two episodes a week for three months and then just ends!
Your plan (if any) is very frustrating for the listeners (if any) who were better off with Radio7.
18:45 6 Jul 2011
Sometime ago my sister encouraged me to buy a digital radio. I started to listen to BBC Radio 7 and thoroughly enjoyed it. The old dramas, the beautiful voices of the female presenters and the comedy. Suddenly, the BBC feels the need to change things; why, why, why? I no longer listen to 4 Extra and rarely now to Radio 4 - there's simply no enjoyment. Would somebody please put me in charge of the programmes schedule for just six months? I promise to turn around your listening figures within that timescale. Believe your Radio 7 audience when they tell you what they want to hear and don't assume to know. I sincerely hope that listeners who don't want to listen to the mundane programmes on 4 Extra, switch off! That's the only way the BBC will listen to us, their audience.
17:40 26 Jun 2011
It's been nearly three months and I am still finding I don't feel inclined to have 4 extra on for hours on end. That does mean that I don't mind the trailers because they can alert me to things I might otherwise miss (despite a careful reading of the Radio Times) so I hope they are drawing other listeners over.
I do feel that the drama and readings output has improved and I applaud the repeats of old classic serials. There are, however, still programmes and sections dotted through the day which destroy the mood, just when it begins to feel like our beloved radio 7 such as the Front Row interview and What's so Funny. Desert Island Discs ought to have been ideal for 4 Extra but it doesn't work for me and it's still irritating that one slot is taken up with a repeat of the Woman's Hour Drama from just the week before.
Still, there is some good news - Ambridge Extra is coming up for its "summer break", the Garrison Keillor radio show also seems to be taking a break and Crime and Thrillers are back at 1am. The new announcers are also increasingly getting the right tone, that is not so intrusive. Books at Beachtime is also a good initiative.
So for my taste it's getting there after a very shaky start and I want to encourage the BBC to carry on trying and not to give it up as a bad job.
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