Here it is. Mark Damazer's final interview as Radio 4 Controller.
Twenty minutes of fascinating discussion with Broadcasting House presenter Paddy O'Connell, touching on pressure from politicians and civil servants, on opening up Thought for the Day to secular voices and on not cancelling Woman's Hour - among many other issues. A really fascinating retrospective glimpse of life running Britain's most important radio station. And you'll learn Mark's favourite Radio 4 sound too (I bet it's not what you expect).
Steve Bowbrick is editor of the Radio 4 blog
- The picture shows Mark and Paddy recording the interview in a Radio 4 studio on Tuesday.