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Thursday 23 June 2011

Sarah McDermott | 17:25 UK time, Thursday, 23 June 2011

Michael Crick is in Brussels for us tonight where the threat of a Greek debt default undermining the euro is overshadowing an EU summit.

Paul Mason will be asking how an economy like Greece's can be saved from going bust (read more on his blog), and we'll be speaking to Werner Hoyer, the German Foreign Office's Europe Minister.

And Iain Watson has the latest on the attempt to ban the use of wild animals in circuses in England.

Join Gavin Esler at 2230 on BBC Two for all that and more.


  • Comment number 1.


    On the Wednesday thread, I have just responded to stevie's rebuke of kevsywevsy.

    For the avoidance of doubt (and from a mind steeped in technological expertise including patented inventions) 9/11 WAS NOT AS THE MEDIA - INCLUDING THE BBC - HAD US ALL BELIEVE. Media lie deliberately and judiciously.

    Data now in the public domain gives the lie, and amount to source material for a great deal of EDGY programming. THE BBC REMAINS SILENT. For whom? Even silence can be a lie.

    Those who have intellect to apply - APPLY IT NOW. The police-state relies on compliant - or gagged – media, and an unthinking mass.

    Do you want Dave applying his simplistic values BY EDICT? Tony never quite dared - Dave is not Tony.

    Wonder every day: "What is the BBC choosing not to cover?"

  • Comment number 2.

    Given that the Prime Minister is (quite rightly) against a ban on 'wild' animals in circuses, one would think BBC journalism would ignore the points of the campaigners in favour of a ban (as they are able to express their points, all over the media, without any hindrance) and explain, to the Licence-Fee-paying public, why Cameron holds the view he does. I presume it's something to do with 'proportion' and 'freedom'.

    It would also be foolish to give the 'animal rights' lunatics a 'victory' - even if some of them appear to come from the Conservative Commons benches.

  • Comment number 3.

    The rest of the world increasingly does not care about what the UK does. All this internal posturing about climate-change or circus animals or international aid is not going to make other countries think about their own policies. In fact, the UK is being ridiculed increasingly for its isolationist/unilateral policies and laws that only self-harm. You just hope that the UK changes sooner rather than later. The UK is no longer the shining beacon that it once was.

  • Comment number 4.

    stevie previous wrote:

    "why do NN let kewesewey or whatever he calls himself infest these decent websites calling for the demise of the BBC and all lefties in the bin, what small brained idiot is it that can lump anyone he doesn't agree with with the same loathesome brush"

    You mean like when anybody who questions immigration they should'nt be accused of being a knee jerk it a bit like that stevie?

    Keep the flag of freedom of speech flying stevie. Selective freedom of speech is an oxymoron, you don't want to go down that road. Polite speech don't need protecting. Although double standards should always be exposed...wouldn't you agree stevie?

  • Comment number 5.


    As long as we remain a monarchy, with all the banal trimmings; a military (militaristic) power, and a fake democracy, with a self-serving hub (Westminster) we are stuck in a past that only our 'ruling elite', and its fellow travellers, enjoy. I can only repeat: corruption is part in the very fabric of this nation, so entrenched that WE DON'T DETECT IT. Others, clearly, can. How bloody embarrassing.

  • Comment number 6.

  • Comment number 7.

    Wot, no Geert Wilders?
    Geert Wilders is innocent! Perhaps if he had been found guilty he may have warranted a mention in news bulletins and even on Newsnight. If the event was mentioned I missed it.
    Is a victory for free speech not worth a mention.

  • Comment number 8.

    Barrie regarding your link on Wednesday post:
    I remember clicking through it. I recognised the woman straight off the bat, she was the partner of the MI5 whistle blower who was hounded (and I think jailed) by the UK authorities. Tell me if I'm wrong there Barrie. I'll give it my full attention when I get a chance to sit down.

    As for 9/11. it took me about 5 years of researching before I held my hands up and declared it was an inside job. The official line is a crock of laughter. I did also believe in man made global warming until Al Gore got on the bandwagon. I still blush when I think that I once believed in all that rubbish, thats the power of the media for you though, but they have deep pockets with special interest groups forever stuffing them with money. Why don't the BBC report the truth on such matters Barrie? word barrie: naivety.

  • Comment number 9.

    Perhaps today's vote on circus animals more than amply proves that Westminster politicians care far more about animals than people, but perhaps then they are just representing the inner guilt of a generally uncaring population. If MP's did actually care about people they would have voted against or at least significantly amended the Welfare Reform Bill the other week, but perhaps they just reflect the abject ignorance of the bulk of the UK population after 25 years of eco-fascist propaganda from the likes of the BBC.

    The fact is that the corporate fascist don't like the circuses because the are mostly family run businesses, no chance of selling shares for the stock market parasites. Similarly they tend to run old trucks like 1980s ERF's and therefore contribute very little to the corporate cartel, all cash payments so no need to get deep into a bank loan and pay " private tax ". The simple fact is that the corporate fascists want everyone controlled by a FTSE listed company in some way, usually a franchise or some other straightjacket where people can all too easily end up working self employed for less than minimum wage.

  • Comment number 10.

    I noticed that the producer quickly cut to a solitary shot of Douglas Carswell, when the Greek MEP, Liani Kanelli, nodded in agreement with him.


  • Comment number 11.


    Politicians are a sub-set of humanity, selected under the Westminster Ethos by political parties. If they were nice people, they would not put up with the integrity-shrinking miasma of Westminster.

    Blofeld strokes a cat, politicians care about circus animals.

    Nuff sed.

  • Comment number 12.


    Hi Kev. I am still discovering how gullible I have been, regarding 9/11. I wandered around wondering why the trickery was so badly hidden, only to realise I had missed great chunks of it that were WAVING AT ME from the next layer down, and that I had failed to realise that THAT was yet another trick, and the divisive value of it. This is a Bond plot played out by the Matrix designers.

    I think, if the BBC silence were down to naïveté, it would be less than total. Don't lose sight of the other BBC policy: the overall degrading of output. Just listen for the 'jollity moments' on the Today Programme. I wonder if they are as structured as the 'Reading Hour' in schools. BBC is now brightly coloured wall, to brightly coloured wall, FUN. When our owners build the battery house round us, we shall hardly notice - we will be having so much fun.

    The dead will be the lucky ones.

  • Comment number 13.

    "HE GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE" (constantly said of Saddam)

    Britain's JUSTICE Secretary, is to tackle drugs in the prisons under his control. As a successful Tobacco Baron, he should be well versed in addictive substances and the damage they do.

    It's all a game the 'them', isn't it. Would Ken, even tacitly, encourage circus animals smoke?

  • Comment number 14.

    Barrie. We're getting amused to death. In between that, nothing is learn't..something to do with the frequency setting on the tube so they say. That might explain the expensive and mostly unused branded goods in my house that catch dust..some still boxed.
    Thank the Gods a few souls have enough inquiry-desire to jumo over the noise and grab some truth. If it wasn't for them and my gut instinct...i'd be just another schmendrick.

    P:S..I'm not Jewish lol

  • Comment number 15.


    Can you spot the FUNDAMENTAL error, in the formulation of this statement? (This question carries no marks - you should be 'unbelievably' ashamed if you can't answer it.)

    It is the Conservative take on women/mothering/pensions, as enunciated by Rachael Reid on Question Time.

    Nuff sed.

  • Comment number 16.


    My long-term friend, Vera, takes great pleasure in labelling me anti-Semitic; it is important, in relationships, to start as you mean to go on.

    I have just filled in the 'All in the Mind' stress questionnaire. I made clear I am wonderfully content with a pointless life, full of perversity. I am hoping to be one of those dots that falls WAY OFF THE LINE.

  • Comment number 17.

    when is Ed Milliband going to attack Cameron instead of the lefties in his own party...answers on a postcard....

  • Comment number 18.

    Austerity Watch

    still using the A word? more political bias from the bbc?

  • Comment number 19.

    thought Michael did well in Brussels and had some success especially with the Greek PM and with Cameron, it must be that white suit.....


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