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How to start a war

Graham Smith | 14:28 UK time, Tuesday, 29 May 2012

My thanks to Torbay MP Adrian Sanders for this analysis of the government's spectacular retreat on the pasty tax. Here's part of his interview with Matt Woodley from today's Good Morning Devon. The really controversial bit is at about 2:30 - on the origins of the pasty.


  • Comment number 1.

    Is it not nice to know that the government "listen".....................or is it a case of selective hearing, as they do not seem to have heard any of the other major moans the public have. Every now and then they'll throw us the odd bone to show how good they are.

    As for the invention of the pasty, search the world over, and you will find many cases of food wrapped in pastry and then baked, the "inventor" of which lived long before mankind was able to express his ideas in writing. Each form of pastry wrapped food takes on it's own character, flavour and texture, depending on the food available in the locality they were made. So to say that one part of the world invented the pasty is rather silly.

    That said, the Cornish have been making their type of pastry wrapped food, known as the Cornish Pasty, for hundreds, thousands, of years. They learnt to make them at their mothers knee, no need for them to have to write down a recipe in case they forgot how. Just because some old Devon cook had a bad memory and needed to write everything down, is not grounds to claim "invention", in fact, it's more like evidence of theft.

    Will that do to help start your war Graham?

  • Comment number 2.

    I think this debate has less to do with a "proper Cornish pasty" and more to do with the money Greggs poured into the "anti-pasty tax revolt". Whatever, it looks likes the people have won.

  • Comment number 3.

    Not one comment,or observation, on the Olympics or the Queens' Jubilee, Graham?
    Not a "man of straw", perhaps, more a reheated "type of pastry wrapped food".

  • Comment number 4.

    Seems they don't care in Devon!


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