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Caroline Barker | 13:08 UK time, Thursday, 16 August 2012

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By Non League Show presenter Caroline Barker:

I feel like I'm about to give birth to triplets. In truth the emergence to the world of Dave Anderson, Alan Alger and Dave Watters will hopefully be without the need for gas and air.

The three stooges are a mainstay of the new 5 live Non League Football Show, and have been with me on the journey for the past five or so years.

This weekend, as we make our 5 live debut, they'll also be at my side mopping my brow and with hot towels aplenty. When we kick-off with the lines "for the fans, by the fans" this weekend we won’t be lying.

I love Non League Football and have supported Chelmsford City ever since I could holler the word "Clarets". A stint as CEO at the club and helping out at others drags you even further in; I'm hooked and Dave Anderson, or Angry to his friends, is equally so. He holds the world record for managing a side unbeaten when at AFC Wimbledon and he's now plying his trade as the gaffer at Harrow Borough in the Isthmian League.

Dave Watters (I won’t tell you his unforgivable nickname) is a long-time sports journalist, once editor at the Non League Paper, and he now helps a number of leagues with their media. Then there's Alan, PR man for the Conference sponsors Blue Square. But he's not just a corporate face - he lives and breathes the game at our level and promotes it any moment he can.

We all love Non League. Over the coming months I hope just a bit of that affection will rub off and we're hoping to engage audiences like never before.

Social media, and in particular Twitter, have become the lifeblood of communication in Non League and we want to take advantage of that. You can find us on Twitter and Facebook and as well as tweeting the show, people can also send us their news from their club via audio messages from their smartphones by emailing nonleague@bbc.co.uk.

Whatever the level, whatever the club, we want to give a voice to what is the foundation of football in our country. Here's hoping you all join in.

The first Non League Show of the season is on at 5.30am on Sunday 19th August on BBC Radio 5 live, and from every Sunday thereafter. You can catch up for 7 days via the BBC iPlayer.

For more clips, photos and blogs visit the Non League Show homepage, and you can also subscribe the Non League show free download.


  • Comment number 1.


    This is an insult to the many, many thousands who love non League football.

    Talk about reinforcing peripheralisation.

  • Comment number 2.

    I thought this was bloomin' great when I read the heading.Give me any type of ' grass roots ' football

  • Comment number 3.

    I'll try again.When I read the heading of this blog I thought this sounded great and 5live was changing its ways.Give me any type of grass roots football over the pampered and massive hype of the Premiership.Then to my dismay discovered the broadcast time of 5.30 am.5live you are an utter disgrace.There is plenty of time in the evening schedules ( given up mainly to people just waffling on and on ) to give non league football more prominence.

  • Comment number 4.

    5.30 AM??? On a SUNDAY??

    Is this some sort of joke? Surely there would have been a space somewhere slightly less insulting instead of the endless and repetitive Premier League chat.
    I may listen to it on iPlayer, so I hope it doesn't try and follow the style of the Football League roundup on a Monday night. I don't understand why it needs Mark Clemmit to talk to the footballers in a jokey and matey style they wouldn't dream of the Premier League 'elite'

  • Comment number 5.

    "Social media, and in particular Twitter, have become the lifeblood of communication in Non League and we want to take advantage of that. You can find us on Twitter and Facebook and as well as tweeting the show, people can also send us their news from their club via audio messages from their smartphones by emailing nonleague@bbc.co.uk."

    The above statement from the blog aptly sums up Five Live as well. In short, we haven't got the talent or resources to fill the programme ourselves so please help us out and pad it with guff

  • Comment number 6.

    Anyone remember Dirty Tackle? That was in the same time spot. It was a great programme but in those days there was no iPlayer which is how most people will hear this new programme.

    However I do think it is an insult, but I bet they just took what they were offered.

  • Comment number 7.

    Thats good. Hide it away where everyone can listen. Whats wrong with giving it maybe the 10-10.30pm slot on say Thursday night (I assume it is just a 30 minute programme)? Or maybe find room for it in the dreadful Sunday evening dirge we have at the moment. I'm passionate about non-league football, but I'm not going to listen at that time in the morning. I guarantee it will last 3 months maximum before being cancelled due to lack of listeners.

  • Comment number 8.

    Instead of 10pm on a Thursday, it would be excellent on a Friday evening instead of some of 'Kicking Off'
    If the pointless blokey 'banter' between Murray & Groves was removed there'd easily be time for a new 30 minute programme. The Friday night preview programme used to be excellent when Ian Payne had journalists in discussion, but now it sounds like a Friday night down the pub.

  • Comment number 9.

    Agreed mistered5 (post 8). The Murray style of presentation, so woefully exposed at the Olympics, is completely alien to a sensible speech led station.As I've stated before he appears unsackable under this Controller. Makes you wonder if AVK ever actually listens.

  • Comment number 10.

    Listen ? More likely that 5live management are all out to dinner somewhere, patting themselves on the back and talking about what a great job they are all doing.

  • Comment number 11.

    The Non League Show was a terrific show on BBC London and to some extent, we're lucky it has survived by moving to Five Live. But I'm disappointed it's on in such a poor slot (I'll listen to the podcast) and has been substantially reduced in length. Hopefully the show can grow from here - no-one should doubt Caroline Barker's commitment to non-league. Personally, I thought 9pm on a Sunday evening would be a good slot.

  • Comment number 12.

    I am usually up by 5am, and in the Car by 5.30 so not a probelm for me, however even if i was still in bed, there are so many ways to listen again that it begs the Question, does it really matter, what time it is on. The World Football phone in is broadcast in a graveyard slot but it is still hugely popular.

  • Comment number 13.

    //Listen ? More likely that 5live management are all out to dinner somewhere, patting themselves on the back and talking about what a great job they are all doing.//

    They wouldn't be saying that if they heard that Stephen Nolan programme last night.

  • Comment number 14.

    Zelda, i missed the show last night, what was wrong with it?

  • Comment number 15.

    As you say Fed ( post 12 ) ' there are so many ways to listen again.....' Pity you don't follow your own advice .

  • Comment number 16.

    If i had the time i would, but as usual sarky, pointless, negative posts are you speciality.

  • Comment number 17.

    I'm still trying to figure out what you are doing getting up at 5am on a sunday morning ? Are you a vicar or something ?

  • Comment number 18.

    Well some of us have to Work, but seeing as we are going off-topic any further info will see my post modded out, anyhow this podcast is intresting;

    Jonathan Wall discusses bringing more taekwondo to the station


    Must admit not listened to it yet, but if the intro is anything to go by, i suppose more taekwondo on 5live will be welcome, but hopefully not at the expense of football.

  • Comment number 19.

    @ msg 14 - much the same as this mornings offering from Stephen Nolan. (In for VD). It's his birthday and he has mentioned it on several occasions - is he expecting us to send cake?

  • Comment number 20.

    He is 39 today and described himself as fit.

  • Comment number 21.

    Hi all. Here's a response from 5 live deputy controller Jonathan Wall:

    "Thanks for all your comments about the non league show. It got off to a good start at the weekend with Caroline Barker at the helm.

    This weekend we will be repeating the programme on Sunday evening at 9.30pm.
    This programme has previously been broadcast on BBC Radio London, but was no longer guaranteed a weekly slot there.

    I really wanted to make sure we could keep the non league show on the BBC and worked closely with Caroline to come up with a solution.

    All senior figures in the non league game have been delighted at this result. Also, when we announced the news of the show, the Non League newspaper claimed it as a landmark moment.

    I do appreciate that a 5.30am slot isn’t the most prominent but the show now has a home on national radio. There is also a longer version available via free download, or people can listen again via the iPlayer."

  • Comment number 22.

    Well done 5live.A small step in the right direction. I take it then that not only will the programme be repeated at 9.30pm this week-end but future week-ends as well ?
    When are other sports going to get more coverage on 5live and when will that start ? There is more to life than than the overload of football and in particular Premiership football.More variety of sports is required even at the expense of this tedious, and money led hype.

  • Comment number 23.

    If the beeb are supposed to be cutting costs why did (the excellent) John Murray have two summarisers for a Championship match last night? I say summarisers - well one was Savage who hit new heights for inarticulousy, poor grammar and inane observations. Not only has this bloke got a face for radio but his presentation - if you can call it that - is unlistenable.

    A truly ghastly presenter.

  • Comment number 24.

    Re Comment 21, it's excellent to get a bit of feedback on the blog and I'll definitely be listening on Sunday night. I know there are other ways of listening to these programmes, but the immediacy of 'live' radio can't be beaten.

    Re Comment 23, I couldn't agree more. I heard 15 minutes of last night's match in the car and most of it involved a discussion about fake tans. The contrast was obvious when the action switched to Stamford Bridge and a serious conversation with David Pleat on FOOTBALL.
    I don't know anybody who likes Robbie Savage as a serious football presenter and yet FiveLive's controller thinks it's a good idea to call him one of their biggest 'names'

  • Comment number 25.

    On the subject of ' biggest names '.....they run a trailer on Talksport now for their presenters and guess what ?Included in the trailer they refer to them as their ' biggest names '. As I have said before 5live is so obsessed with Talksport that there now appears to be a cross over affect.I can only imagine that Moz Dee and AVK went to the same training school.As for Robbie Savage.......one of my favourite past times was listening to commentaries on the radio but now I can't stand them due to far too much shouting and far too many inarticulate sidekicks who irritate me no end.

  • Comment number 26.

    Post #24 "I don't know anybody who likes Robbie Savage as a serious football presenter..."

    I don't know anybody who liked Robbie Savage as a serious footballer.

  • Comment number 27.

    We all have to accept that Robbie Savage has been contracted to polarise opinion and get everyone's arguing juices running. No-one liked him when he was a player and he himself made a lot about that, and so he is just continuing odious and outspoken behaviour on 5 Live as it pays him a very comfortable living. He is just the pantomime baddie. Boo and move on.

  • Comment number 28.

    Talkport is run on the basis of presenters acting as wind up merchants , the thing is I expect a better standard of radio than that from the BBC.5live really doesn't have to reduce itself to that low level of broadcasting.


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