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5 live's Rajar Figures Quarter 3 2010

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Adrian Van-Klaveren Adrian Van-Klaveren | 09:23 UK time, Thursday, 28 October 2010

Our latest listening figures are out today and they show 5 live has a weekly audience of 6.3 million and a 4.7% share of listening. Rajar figures for 5 live are always seasonal and affected by major events so not surprisingly we have dropped from our all-time record figures of the last quarter (helped by the World Cup and the General Election) and from this time last year which included England's triumph in the Ashes.

This quarter has been a bit less dramatic (it included only the closing stages of the World Cup after England had been knocked out and flown home) but what's most encouraging is that we once again have more than six million listeners a week. This is the seventh successive quarter we've been above the six million mark showing that long-term we are steadily building our audience.

One very encouraging number is that people are listening to us for longer - for an average of 7 hours and 53 minutes per week - that's half an hour per week longer than last quarter and 13 minutes a week longer than this time last year. All of our weekday programmes are performing above the long-term slot average suggesting the new schedule is bedding in well although, as I've said before, we need to give these programmes at least a year to settle down.

5 live Sports Extra has gained 100,000 listeners on the quarter although not surprisingly down on the same time last year, given the cricket coverage in that period. On both 5 live and 5 live Sports Extra, we've got lots coming up between now and the end of the year including of course the fullest coverage of England's efforts to retain the Ashes in Australia. We'll be continuing our detailed, close-up coverage of the spending cuts and their impact, there'll be a special week of programmes in early December looking at what the family means in the UK nowadays and of course we'll continue to bring you more live football than you'll hear anywhere else.

Related Links
RAJAR - official site with all press releases


  • Comment number 1.

    Where are the full set of numbers? It is a disgrace that 5Live doesn't release the numbers when you hold the copyright and all competitors have them. The only people who are in the dark are those who fund the BBC.

    You have not adequately answered that question from the last time the Rajar figures where peddled.

    Mr Van Klaveren can you please answer post 1 in the comically titled, "Your Questions Answered" thread here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/5live/2010/09/your-questions-answered-1.shtml

    5Live is down quarter-on-quarter and year-on-year.


  • Comment number 2.

    In the quarter that included a vast amount of overdosing on the Labour leadership candidates you could draw one or two conclusions from the decision made to have all those interviews and debates. At the same time you showed an enormous amount of political bias when compared to the last Conservative leadership election. I have heard the excuse that the Labour election was important for the country to hear as Labour face rebuilding in Opposition. But the Conservative one was important because whoever won it was going to be the country's next PM. So the excuse does not hold water at all.

    It is dishonest not to show the people that pay for these figures exactly what they are every quarter. Give some of us the nod that we could possibly understand what they all mean. And if it is true they need to be looked at over several periods to see your trends emerge, well, do that.

    If it hasn't occurred to you publicly that you made a mistake with Bacon, then privately you must be thinking how you can rid yourself of that embarrassment when you have managed to offload Logan by making her feel it is too much commitment.

  • Comment number 3.

    "All of our weekday programmes are performing above the long-term slot average suggesting the new schedule is bedding in well although, as I've said before, we need to give these programmes at least a year to settle down."

    Does Richard Bacon really have more listeners than Simon Mayo did? When you say compared to ‘the long term slot average’ this is meaningless spin because the average taken over the period from station launch to present day is bound to be less as the station has grown.

    However you spin it a 7% drop in listening figures is not a good result especially when Talk Sport has had its best ever figures.

  • Comment number 4.

    Without clear figures it is pretty hard to know what to make of this blog. I find this makes comparison with last year's Ashes a little unclear as I think most people would have chosen TMS or Sports extra for their coverage, therefore reducing the listener figures for 5live over that period (or was ball by ball on the main station?).

    Do the figures also reflect the changes in the football coverage - ie the loss of the Saturday teatime and Sunday lunchtime matches?

  • Comment number 5.

    Here in microcosm is the problem with the BBC. Unabashed arrogance, lack of transparency and spin. The (rajar) results were terrible, but here we are being told everything's: "bedding-in, settling down, steadily building, encouraging." This should have been sent as a memo to Tim Davie instead.

  • Comment number 6.

    No disrepsect but this all sounds like it was out of a coaching manual on spin produced by Alastair Campbell.

    ' People are listening to 5live for an average of 7 hours and 53 minutes per week, half an hour longer than the last quarter and 13 minutes longer than this time last year......'

    Well when 5live first came on air and it was at the top of its game, I was listening to the station almost all day, now all can muster is a few minutes here and there thanks to the poor quality of presenters and the dumbed down approach.Add that in your figures won't you.

  • Comment number 7.

    ”Rajar figures for 5 live are always seasonal and affected by major events so not surprisingly we have dropped”

    TalkSport grew its audience by 18.1% on the previous three months and 19.6% year on year, do they not have the same seasonal factors?

  • Comment number 8.

    Sounds like there's an excuse for every occasion and no transparency.

    One can only imagine what next quarter's exceptional circumstances will be.

    Without the mask of the general election the true damage done to the station has been laid bare. The greatest loss of share of any BBC station spun yet apparently "the new schedule is bedding in well although"

    "What's most encouraging is that we once again have more than six million listeners a week".. never mind that 470,000 people just deserted the station.

  • Comment number 9.

    The only programme that was sacrosanct in my household was Drive and it is becoming such a bore (Peter Allen whinging on and on about how nasty the Conservatives are) that I have switched off, probably permanently. But I am not a filler in of Rajar forms so I do not count.

    Many more eloquent than I have pointed out that a seven per cent drop at a time when your competitors have grown is hardly a ringing endorsment but what do we know, eh? Change the team Mr.Van Klaveren, change the tactics and you will climb the wireless league table again, stay with the same lazy overpaid players, keep the tweets and the celebrity rubbish, the pop music and the political bias and you will go down faster than West Ham United.

  • Comment number 10.

    Far be it for me (an inconsequential little old listener such as I )to tell the ' mighty ' and obviously more knowledgable BBC about what people want by way of radio on 5live and after losing 7% of your listenership but by playing too many items for laughs and a giggle is not only becoming irritating it downright condescending.Also the sooner you realise that between the hours of 10am and and 7pm 5live is so crying out for a massive revamp and to have more articulate presenters, the more likely that the listeners you have lost will return.Using excuses as a smoke and mirrors exercise just doesn't wash.Lets take this station back to when it was taken seriously and was an enjoyable listen.Stop treating us as if we are all neanderthals and for goodnesss sake... ditch your focus groups.

  • Comment number 11.

    Surely now the correct thing to do is to reappraise standards and content across the station and make appropriate changes before it is too late.

    If it is done correctly it could even be a PR triumph ''You told us, we listened'' or something along those lines. In all conscience, can this current discontent be ignored any longer?

  • Comment number 12.

    The Controller is fond of telling us ratings need to be seen over time.. well I quick look at the Rajar website reveals...

    The loss of 7% of the audience in Q3 2010 is the worse quarterly result for 5Live for 21 surveys or five years (Sept 2005-Sept 2010).

  • Comment number 13.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 14.

    If you didn't hear it, please listen from 2305 onwards for about an hour of the Livesey programme last night. This featured Nolan at two radio industry conferences in Ireland, and he had an extended interview with Tim Davie, about 20 minutes long. Davie said he was in charge of Radio 1, 2, 3 and 4 but that now 5 Live comes under the auspices of BBC North. I knew there was a move (!) but not that 5 Live was going to be literally run by someone else and not be his responsibility any more. Maybe I missed that announcement in all the guff about forcing people to move, and those announcements about who wasn't going to leave London.

    There was alot about Moyles, Evans and salaries at such an eye wincing level even some footballers are jealous. You will be amused to hear that when Davie said he and others of his level are taking cuts of 20-25%, he didn't really mean it, most of it is cuts in benefits and his actual cut is about 10%.

    Rajars were then mentioned. Mostly in the context of Moyles, Evans and the way it was when Wogan was on board.

    Anyone notice what was missing? Yes, 5 Live was barely mentioned. Nothing except that mini mention of the word Salford concerning the move no-one wants to make, including AVK, who had no mention at all, even on his own station. The two guests didn't talk about yesterday's laughable figures on the actual station that is leaking numbers, and Nolan didn't bring it up. He did present a good interview with Davie though, he had him on the spot several times with genuine questions of the sort AVK wouldn't answer, and Davie was flustered and a teensy bit muddled when he tried to reply.

  • Comment number 15.

    Thanks for the tip Carrie.

    I wonder why this interview was buried at 11.00pm?

    Also, if 5Live is under the auspices of BBC North now if that doesn't constitute something worthy of a blog post I don't know what does.

  • Comment number 16.

    I'm pretty certain I heard it right. I was wondering why there were two more Radio industry conferences when the big one was only last week in Salford. They must all see each other more often than they see their families.

  • Comment number 17.

    I notice Hawksbee & Jacobs, the afternoon programme on TalkSport, have just had their highest ever listening figures. I wonder where they have gained listeners from?

  • Comment number 18.

    You did hear it right Carrie. Five Live is now run by BBC North. I'm glad that I am not the only one who was taken aback by this information. I thought I had missed out on something. Obviously not.
    BTW, can't wait for Livesey to return. Paine is just awful.

  • Comment number 19.

    I urge you all to Google BBC North jobs and just see what you are paying for.

    I also love the fact that on the BBC Breakfast website they have a photo of two people who are refusing to go and have also pointed out that none of the usual guests will go there either.

    I am more and more appalled by this.

    Can we have some comments from Nigel or AVK on the BBC North takeover of 5 Live? Or is it nothing to do with the licence payer?

  • Comment number 20.

    Not sure what happened to "democracy" on the "most democratic station" in the country but freedom of speech is obviously out the window.

    Poor Welcome2theMachine posted some more embarrassing numbers for the top brass on post #13 but it was pulled.

  • Comment number 21.

    Thanks Ryanw, glad someone saw it. I'll try again - Five Live Extra down 37.5% year on year, not that you'd know from Klav's post above.

  • Comment number 22.

    Thank you for this post AVK.

    However I am troubled by the discrepancy between it and your statement of a few days ago. You then said that fivelive was "the most democratic national station" but now you seem to be withholding and spinning numbers..

    If this truely is "The most democratic national station" then surely you should provide the Rajar Numbers.

    We need to get a wider spectrum of people into the higher echelons of the BBC...

  • Comment number 23.

    I hate the concept but Nick Hancock made Fighting Talk (almost) listenable this morning. Someone should give Des Kelly a role on radio - he's very good.

    I think it was Jonathon Overend who presented Sports this pm - did a superb job. The lunchtime discussion with the peerless Pat Murphy and Bob Wilson followed by sensible interview with sometimes difficult Wolves manager was very, very good listening. (Sadly, Colin Murray won't have heard it but at least in doing darts ... and in Hull ... he's in his comfort zone). Get on to 'listen again' Colin, this is how it should be done.

    Sad no Danny again - the show was stilted, had no pace and was mostly about Arsenal.

  • Comment number 24.

    I missed Fighting Talk but heard, for the first time, a chat show presented by Chris Addison. If you want to hear four Northern posh socialists talk over each other whilst sniggering then this is the show for you however I turned off, another one for my own personal RAJAR and in case you are vaguely interested I will also not be listening tomorrow as Ms.Derbyshire "interviews" some singers. This is not Radio5Live's remit MR.AVK, please get back to news and sport.

  • Comment number 25.

    The sport programme on at the moment is a boring talk shop. Churning and re-churning football gossip and flipping Wayne Rooney's private life and "injury" for the second week in a row.

    I listened to the Villa match on BBC Birmingham via internet. Likewise Newcastle's match via BBC Tyne.

    I have never heard such a boring programme when sport should be exciting and live.

  • Comment number 26.

    Sorry, this is 5 Live Sport on Sunday, with Iain Payne.

  • Comment number 27.

    Rather than glossing over the bad figures and making excuses about them, wouldn't it be a much better idea to find out *why* you're haemorrhaging listeners?

    I'm one of those who has gone elsewhere. The reasons why are posted in many of the blogs here but, in short, it's because I don't want to listen to presenters/interviewers who are more interested in themselves than in their guests and I feel a news and sport station should stick to its remit.

    The only programme I still listen to is Drive and, I have to admit, that last tenuous hold on 5Live is about to go as Peter Allen is obviously fed up with the place as well, almost becoming a parody of himself. The bonus is that, if I do let go of this final programme, I'll be able to listen to one of the best presenters 5Live ever lost.

    Finally I'm shocked that a national radio station is suddenly under the auspices of a BBC region with absolutely no comment, blog, news or any mention of it.

  • Comment number 28.

    I am with GillB in having gone elsewhere. I find myself listening to the afternoon plays on radio 4 - and i'm really not that old! I am new to this blogging and so dont really know what I can and cant put. I wrote one on another thread that didnt get past the person who controls it all. I was simply questioning whether Bacon and Logan have the knowledge base to be let loose on these shows. I really hope Colin Murray does not get the lunchtime show. He would have the same problem as Gabby in that a basic knowledge of a few sports isn't enough to host a topical show. Remember that cringy advert for her show that claimed they would take the story of the day and give it their own slant, what happend to that? Mayo had the knowledge of sport, but also politics, current affairs etc. If he didnt he would always make sure he at least sounded like he did!
    Inverdale for the lunchtime show. Or I like the post that suggested someone like Des Kelly. He is one of the better pundits on the rapidly sinking Fighting Talk (It was Johnny Vaughns baby - get him back). When do the Sony awards get presented. If Five Live win any I will set up a Richard Bacon fan club!

  • Comment number 29.

    Actually 5 Live shouldn’t be about chasing listening numbers which taken too far can actually result in loss of audience, which is maybe what these figures show. In attempting to provide ‘accessible radio’ that appeals to a very broad base you end up alienating the core listeners who simply want a news and sport station. Five Live needs to remember what its core purpose is, why it was set up, it should be to provide intelligent though provoking interviews, discussion, features and reviews mixed with the day’s news and sport. It should stop trying to be all things to all people. Yes the output needs to be entertaining but dumbing down to the lowest common denominator results in the kind of trivial, lightweight, entertainment and celebrity focused radio we now get in the afternoons.

  • Comment number 30.

    Spot on Dom.

  • Comment number 31.

    Regarding Dom in point 7:

    ”Rajar figures for 5 live are always seasonal and affected by major events so not surprisingly we have dropped”

    TalkSport grew its audience by 18.1% on the previous three months and 19.6% year on year, do they not have the same seasonal factors?

    TS have definitely been growing their audiences, but if you look at the articles about the station on DigitalSpy written by their listeners, you would think that the weekday daytime schedule is the worst in its history!

    For 5L to be losing listeners to a station whose quality is badly regressing is very poor form indeed! It makes you wonder whether the management really care at all?

    The only time that I make a point of tuning in is if there is something different on: ie. Wimbledon and Open Golf. During the Ryder Cup Friday rain-interrupted coverage the imperious John Inverdale showed how the job should be done: totally in command of all around him in very trying circumstances. Can we have him broadcasting between 10am - 4pm every weekday please?

  • Comment number 32.

    At last we are getting some consensus. The station,particularly during daylight hours has deteriorated remarkably over the past year or so.
    I realise they cannot all emulate Rhod Sharp but at least they could aim towards his professionalism and excellence not degenerate to the level of current afternoon performances.

  • Comment number 33.

    The lack of answers or comment on this and the other subjects, from AVK and Nigel, show they have no answer to the criticisms we are all making. Maybe it is because between attending radio festivals and the cinema, they are in crisis talks about who to fire, who to sign, and how they can persuade Inverdale to come back to the station full time, as he used to be, without making it look as if they are giving in to our comments and suggestions.

    I too hardly listen in the way I used to. My radio was permanently on the station 24 hours. I do dip in because otherwise I wouldn't know if things have worsened or improved. Because of hearing the Nolan/Davie interview on Lindsey the other night, I did listen to some Nolan and he does not have the amount of sex and gratuitousness he once did in his programme content. It is still there judging by what he describes in his introductions, but some of his interviews have been very journalistic instead off the way they were, which was almost voyeuristic when I stopped listening to him. His interview with the firemen and their opponent was excellent.

    My problem with the station is firmly based between 12 and 4, with some difficulties on certain weekdays between 10 and 12, and the awful way the sport evenings are now based on yakking for hours between people who churn and churn the same drivel every day because they have lost so much live sport. Finally, Robbie Savage. He must be causing mass switch offs all on his own. The reason he keeps missing the point and yelling is because he is too busy tweeting to be able to do two things at once. When he does concentrate his voice is like nails on a blackboard, the content like a two year old with a felt tip doing a picture for Daddy. (Think about it AVK, you are the only one who thought those scribbles by your little kid were genious!!)

  • Comment number 34.

    At least Savage has given up tweeting (or has threatened to).
    Perhaps he's signed up for F***witter instead.

  • Comment number 35.

    Bacon’s programme is turning into a replica of Steve Wright’s show, interviews mixed with music. Today we have had about an hour of Pet Shop Boy songs mixed with interview on what is supposed to be a talk radio station. What is the point of 5 live if it is simply going to provide the same as Radio 2? How can it justify being funded by the license fee if it is not going to fulfil its remit as a news and sports station?

    As others have said, it just represents the lazy, trivial, entertainment and celebrity focused radio that 5 live afternoons now are. Obviously by including increasing amount of music means less content is needed meaning less work for Bacon and his editor.

  • Comment number 36.

    Derbyshire tweets "interviewing a woman tomorrow who while browsing the internet discovered her husband was married to someone else... "
    Can't wait. Really highbrow stuff.
    Pity it clashes with a certain programme on ITV1. Her audience will be torn between the two.

  • Comment number 37.

    I agree with @35, I was thinking the same yesterday. Bacon has mutated into providing formulaic programmes containing music, book plugs and drivel. Belongs on Radio 2 away from speech radio, just like that awful music segment on Victoria's Monday show.

    Still no word from Nigel or AVK. Where are they this week?

  • Comment number 38.

    and where is the breakfast programme blog???????

  • Comment number 39.

    And to think that Derbyshire once ended up in tears after an argument with Nicky Campbell over who should interview David Blunkett.

  • Comment number 40.

    "I appreciate that it's frustrating when comments aren't acknowledged, questions not answered and people who you've got used to seeing writing posts disappear after a while. I can't guarantee that I'll meet all your expectations but I will endeavour to make sure no one is left in the lurch from now on."

    -- Nigel Smith, Monday, 6 September 2010

  • Comment number 41.

    We'll find out tomorrow who laughingly calls themself a "journalist".

  • Comment number 42.

    15:00 - 16:00 Richard Bacon
    A look back at some of Richard's most entertaining interviews. .

    They think they can fill an hour?

  • Comment number 43.

    The hour between 9 and 10 this morning was good. I thought this was a strike by journalists? So why no Bacon (vast improvement) or VD show then?

  • Comment number 44.

    I also enjoyed the earlier show today. 8am - 10am was good.
    Has Richard Bacon conducted any good or entertaining interviews? No doubt they will be playing the Charlotte Church love in. It was not entertaining.

  • Comment number 45.

    Really enjoyed listening to 5live this morning with the exception of reruns of Vickys interviews.Do we care if the overpaid Campbell, Derbyshire,Logan,Bacon don't turn up ?Not at and Rachel Hodges and Ian Payne are doing a splendid job.More focus on the actual news stories rather than the egos' of the current crop of poor presenters.Well done and for once I can have 5live on all day.This strike should really concentrate minds about how 5live should really listen.Keep up the good work and AVK please take note.

  • Comment number 46.

    Agree, Binkie - was refreshing to listen to Ian Payne talking to A. Cole without constant breaks for : upcoming programme trailers; annoying jingles; traffic updates etc. It was radio for grown-ups! An aural treat.

  • Comment number 47.

    I quite liked the no frills Breakfast this morning too.

    No banal chatter, no twittering, no facebook fappery, just the news and sport.

    It ran swimmingly on a skeleton staff too.

    In fact as well as freezing the pension pot its pretty clear the BBC could freeze out some employees too for no great material loss and either save the taxpayer some money or reinvest the funds in more quality programming.

  • Comment number 48.

    Well said all of the above.What a pleasureable and enjoyable listen 5live is today and without the irritating and over inflated egos' of the presenters who find it hard not to be the centre of attention and of course the added bonus of very few annoying trailers and jiggles.It just goes to show how 5live should be and can be run and without the cost of paying presenters who nowhere near deserve the money they are paid for very little return.This is the 5live I want from now on and not a station run on the lines of some pseudo dumbed down commercial operation.For the sake of repeating myself I have not missed the likes of Derbyshire,Campbell,Bacon,Logan.......at all and again AVK please take this on board !

  • Comment number 49.

    Having said I'll listen all day I've just noticed they are re- running some tedious RB interviews.Well thats me off to somewhere else.

  • Comment number 50.

    Why are you using material (previously aired) by people who are on strike?

  • Comment number 51.

    I agree Carrie.Using old recordings of the over inflated egos' of the already well paid 5live presenters who are on strike must be a like a kick in the teeth for those who have turned up and are actually doing some work.

  • Comment number 52.

    What should have happened today is 5Live should have made a virtue of having fewer thought police on station and had 'the great debate', 'the people's programme' or some catchy moniker and had a few hours of free-for-all debate on whatever topic people wanted to discuss -- not driven by the host or the production team. It wouldn't require hours of research, hundreds of producers, just a mildly talented and knowledgeable presenter to facilitate the discussion.

    Alas, instead for much of the daytime schedule we've had more of the same. Boring.

  • Comment number 53.

    It's asking far too much for them to have ideas (Ryanw's above) when they can far more easily just pump the same stuff out.

    Interesting comments on Guardian media & the strike re.5 - not having any journalists and how bad the station and certain individulas are

  • Comment number 54.

    Never mind.
    There's a bowelful of Twitterrhoea from Savage, Agnew, Arlo White etc to keep us all entertained.

  • Comment number 55.

    As if we aren't all sick to death of hearing the likes of Vicky Derbyshire and Bacon each weekday on 5live but to air repeats of their programmes when they are actually on strike is just taking cruelty to my lugholes way too far.

  • Comment number 56.

    Whoever has organised this programming whilst the strike is on must be mad. Are you honestly suggesting whoever you are that these are the best recordings available to fill the airtime? Clin Murray, Vicky, Beijing??!! and the World Cup? Could you not have recreated one of those dire days during Christmas and New Year and given us a bit more choice than Colin every 4 hours?

    Pretty poor, but better than it normally is, just a pity the wrong people are on the loop broadcast. Well done Ian and Rachel by the way.

  • Comment number 57.

    A phone in about the X Factor today, is that how you expect to get your Rajar’s up?

    Being an 'accessible' station means dumbing down how low? How long can you claim to fulfil your licence fee funded remit of being a news and sport station?

  • Comment number 58.

    After this mornings usual poor excuse for radio, all I can say is go back on strike and AVK you might consider replacing Vicky with Rachel Hodges.5live is just getting worse with each passing day.More listeners turning off and the 5live Rajar figures going into meltdown if someone doesn't use their noggin and do something quick, instead of the usual tiresome spin.

  • Comment number 59.

    btw I don't think I have ever come across such a complacent attitude to what clearly is a major problem with the main presenters on 5live.The audience figures have plummeted but are too afraid to do anything about it.5live needs to go up market and not be plunging the depths we associate with commercial daytime tv.

  • Comment number 60.

    Agree, Binkie. It's like the Emperor and his new clothes.

    The sports coverage/programming (with a few exceptions) is still of a consistently high standard and is a beacon in the quagmire of the daytime weekday programming into which the powers that be seem unable/unwilling to halt the descent.

  • Comment number 61.

    Good to see that 5live are getting another presenter to help with the dumbing down.


  • Comment number 62.

    Looks like 5live is becoming the home for rejects that have failed elsewhere.

  • Comment number 63.

    Agree with all of the above.

    Let's not forget 5Live has experiences its greatest quality fall in Audience share in 21 surveys or 5 years.

  • Comment number 64.

    What is the point of Derbyshire's "human interest" interviews?
    Is to provide some sort of therapy for those involved?
    Is it to further her career as an agony aunt, probably on TV?
    I can't think of anyone who would get pleasure from what is uncomfortable, intrusive and voyeuristic listening.

  • Comment number 65.

    That is it. I can listen no more. I gave up on 75% of Bacon's show but tried to listen to the show on Tuesdays. I used to enjoy the TV reviews, but that seems to be a platform for Boyd Hilton to profess his utter devotion to all things Cowell. How many times does he plug Heat magazine? I have never seen a copy but I assume it favours BBC or else surely they wouldnt let him do this.
    Why have you let this happen to Five Live. It is just terrible
    I will now not listen to Radio 5 until the Ashes start. Please do not mess around with TMS.

  • Comment number 66.

    Oh dear, I've just had a horrible premonition. Please can someone take Colin Murray's and Robbie Savages passports away from them before some clueless idiot seends them to Aus!

  • Comment number 67.

    I really don't know how Vicky Derbyshire has kept her job for so long.The whole mid morning slot needs freshening up.I fully agree with Lunchtime and the fact that her interviews made me feel so uneasy.Trying to make and further a career out of some other people's misfortunes is pretty low by anyones standards.


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