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  News about Britain
January 2003
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Odair Bobbio from Brazil writes:

In my country the best universities are public. It´s very difficult to get in because there is a kind of testing. Only rich people that has been stood at good high school can obtain the grades and get it... My opinion is that the university should be free and have some number of chair for poor students.

Ana Cecilia Bastardo Prince from Venezuela writes:

In venezuela, we have both alternatives, either free education or private education. Each person has the possibility to decide the type of college or university to attend.

But, in my personal opinion, this system has been the main problem for the unsuccessful public education system in my country; because, there are a huge amount of students that have the economucal possibility to pay some fee tuition and if the goverment and education officer encourage this student to pay some money, depending on each economical situation, our public university, i thinh, could be probably, more efficient than they are now, because less strike and strife will be done.

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Yonghong Zhang from P.R. China writes:

I think the new way of paying is a good system. It is flexible and resonable. Giving students some debt will force them to study harder so as to get a good job after graduation. Also the money repaid by graduated students can be used to improve the teach and research infrastucture of universities.

In China, undergraduated have to pay some money (from about 200 pounds to 400 pounds a year)after 1996, and the amounts of the money has increased in recent years.Most unfairly, you have to pay at the start of the semester. Before 1994, undergradute need not pay anything or pay a little money for their education in universities, on the contrast, they can get a little life allowance from the universities every month, which is in total nearly two times as they paid if they haid pay. This change has a very bad influence because many qualified undergraduates from poor family can not afford the money and can not enter the universities. But I heard China governemnt was seeking othe solutions to assure the students from poor families can enter the universities also.

Anyway, I think new plan of paying for graduates in UK is resonable.

Comfort Asaju from Nigeria writes:

In general I think it is unfair that the students have to pay their fees in a way that is going to affect them, that is to say it can stop them from carrying on with their studies. In my country (Nigeria) most of the students after their GCSE cannot afford to go to a university because of the high fees. This affects a lot of the students that would like to further their education. In the UK the situation is different. If university fees become high, the students have two options.
I think it is a good idea if the students that have the oppotunity to work while studying can at least have a part-time work. Thus payiny their fees would be easier and they can go on studying.
If they cannot work, they can get a loan and pay it back once they start working. In conclusion I feel that the governments should try to keep the educational system affordable so that everybody can be educated which is very important.

Sina Peyman from Iran writes:

In our country there are two ways for student to continue theire education at universities. First PUBLIC UNIVERSITY that students can use their services, free. and the second way is going to PRIVATE UNIVERSITY that it costs too much for them. As a matter of fact, Public university has difficult enterance exams, so most of the students will lose the opporunity of studing at, Therefor most of them have to choose the second way to have a university degree . But there is a bigger problem here, JOBLESS. not people who have graduated from public university , nor them wh have graduated from private university, have the opportunity to find a suitable jobb.

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Jim Thom from the United States writes:

I think it sounds like a very fair and sensible system. Considering that college graduates almost always earn substantially more than non-graduates seems to make it well worth-while. This is especially true since the pay-back wouldn't begin until earnings rose high enough to make it less painful.

There are both private and public US universities, where the public ones are subsidized heavily by the government. They charge substantially less for tuition. The private schools are a cut above the public ones for the most part, but can be extremely more expensive. Both types usually offer scholarships to students who can't afford to attend otherwise. There is a broad range of students between the ones elibible for scholarships and those who can pay. A good many of these are well-served by the system of two-year, or "junior colleges", which are largely supported through local property taxes, where students can live at home and attend. After a successful two-year course, they may transfer to a full-size school, or in other cases begin a career or trade for which they've trained.

There are also government loans available, but must be repaid after leaving school, not after reaching an income threshold, as in the UK. In fact, the rate of truant student loans was quite high until the government began tracking down delinquent borrowers.

Dario Enrique Prieto Rodriguez from Colombia writes:

Thanks a lot and greetings! I think governments won't be able to pay more grants all around the world because of increasing population and economic changes. The contributors are exhausted of paying taxes and the curates of the benefits are not always well payd because as we said in our country "si no nos cuesta, hagámoslo fiesta". What it seems is if I have not commitment, why don't I spoil this booty? (Am I understandable?).

So until two weeks ago (because of down-sizing I'm out now- I was working with a guvernamental agency for indigenous peoples of Colombia. One of the programmes I drived was a grant for maintenance to the indigenous students in upper-levels of education. The benefitiaries pay their loans by a commitment of communitary work in their communities of origin. But it is difficult to verify and most of the benefitiaries don`t do this work.

So I think is better governments try to lead positions in what people have to do little efforts to grow in their lifes and addapt to an increasing changing world.

Forgive me for my limited English!

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Syed najeeb ali kiddie from Pakistan writes:

Regarding fees in our country they are quite low according to british standards but wouldn,t it be better to keep the fees low for the student and spend more on education and less on defense

Ribeiro Marisa from Argentina writes:

I think the situation is unfair(In England). But , at the same time, I am Argentinian, and I can tell you that in my country , we have private and state education. This situation we can find out in initial level (kindergarten9, primary school, secondary school and university. The goverment have been discussed about why not regulate the university, but you know that my country has several economic problems and people are very unhappy with politicians. It is a controversial situation.It depends on the side of life you are.

Eun-Kyung Park from South Korea writes:

I'm sorry to hear that Students in the UK can face to debts beyond their ability. and I see some diffrence of culture in terms of "education". tuition fees in korea are also very expensive. but most of students are supported by their parents. I think parents's support, in a sense, doesn't help their independence. but we can't help it as long as we are not offered lots of jobs. even if we have part-time jobs, the salary is not more than monthly allownce. whenever a new semester begins, we demonstrate against an increase of tuition fee, but it doesn't work. so I think if universities offer various work-study jobs on campus, the money earned will pay for tuition. It's worth a try.

Sunyi in China writes:

In my country, students have to pay for the learning in college. It's unfair,but I think for a long time it will continue.

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Anna Gabrielová in the Czech Republic writes:

University education is free of charge in Cz.Republic . But for the recent years there has been a constant discussion discussion about this matter. The members of Right wing political parties have been speaking about the need of paying it. However there has not been any tradition concerning that, no system of student´s loans etc. and strong disagreement of most of people in our country. So as a result no political party wants to "go into it".

Lopez Fernando in Spain writes:

Hello.In my country University is not free but is less expensive than hear.I think that the main problem in England is that everybody who wants to study at university go out of their cities and that is very expensive because you don't have only to pay fees furthermore you have also to pay accommodation and food.

Sue Wong in China writes:

Whether a new policy is good or not depends on special social circumstances, especially the country¡¯s economic level. In China, the government cannot afford the education fees for so many students, and if Chinese students could get loans from banks their future would be brighter.


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Sammy in China writes:

i think it is expensive,i spend £35,000 on study english and GCSE, before A-level, it will cost huge in A-level and university.

Kobe Van in China writes:

I think that will be fair only if it is followed by reasonable regulors. Now in China,it is also the same case.But the regulors here may not be fully reasonable.The stuedents who apply for the loans and will be passed through are restricted in number.Still a large number of students cannot get them so as to continue their studies.In some places,the loan regulor is totally unaccessible for not-knowing reasons.And the students cannot find much access to part-time jobs.So many students find it hard to go on with their studies simply due to lack in money.What a pity!Everyone would think so? Just wish the Governments or relative associations and organisations would do more in ensuring every-one who is ambitious can study what they want without any anxiety.

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Kishore Chandra Swain in India writes:

Accepting money from the student wiil may cause extra mental tension forfreshly graduated students. This system may force some Intelligent students (poor students) to stay out of the higher study. If the government is bound to accept money from the students the amount should n't be so high and also there should be some sideby programs for the students so they can pay back the money during there study period, As most of the students are uncertain about the career after the higher study. They may n't able to use their whole resources for new activities as because they have to run behind money in order to pay back the loan.
Is this system valid for foreign students study in UK?

Mahamadali in Sussex writes:

Yes, it's good way to payiny because it,s easier most of the sudents than before. Also the most of sudents are glad to hear this change.

Imran in Pakistan writes:

I think it is good idea to pay in future by its on. AS in our country where peoples do not have enough money to survive in social setting.If someone want to study he must have to submit the fees before joining classes.I know two persons which failed to join medical college after having good percentage in fsc only due to unabled to pay the fees.It is good idea to pay himself after education.But in my point of intially refunds must be less in amount then gradually increased to some levels .i.e as first year after completing education 10 pounds or smaller because may in debt.Overall ithink it is good idea.

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Viviane in Brazil writes:

I've learned so far that everything has a price in life. If you are not born rich, you should try to be the most talented and bright. It is the only way to go ahead.

In England a bank would at least consider giving a loan to a student. It means the financial system at least believes you will be able to pay your loan back after leaving university. In Brazil, this rarely happens. Banks are not willing to assume the risk, since lots of graduate students finish university and are either unemployed or do not earn enough to pay the loan.

Here, we have two kind of universities: public and private ones. The public universities are the best ones in terms of education, where you are bound to find the best professors. One has got to get high grades and face the competition to enter them, though. The private ones have nice buildings but the level of education is very low, since these private universities are mainly concerned in making money.

Amélie in Belgium writes:

"Paying so much to receive higher education is shocking! As it is said above,in the article,it discourages young people from beginning higher studies and, we all know how much education determines society! Think about the disastrous consequences it may have! In Belgium, we still are lucky to pay the minimum but everything is changing with Bologne Declaration... There is a demonstration expected soon, to show to our authorities we are not ready for the Education trade!! I send my best wishes to every -brave-english student!!! Don't give up fighting anyway! Bye, Amélie from Belgium."


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Tereena nasary in Afghanistan-kabul writes:

Question - it is good to pay but we don't have the approunity of learning more beacuse one side we have the internal war from other side the resitiction on women education is too much .

John.x in China writes:

Yes, in our country, we have to pay for education and it's getting more expensive. in my opinion, education should be free, quite a lot countries paying mmassive money for army services and stupid weapens, why not we use this money for education. if we develope education, our world will be more beautiful with educated people.

James Yeung in Hong Kong writes:

I think that the new system of paying back the loans after graduation is well recommended since many students or their families cannot afford to repay the loans during study. It prodvides another option for those who want to further their studies in university while they have finacial difficuties. If they can afford such considerable tuition fees, they are reluctant to incur a life-long debt.At least, the poor students have opportunities for higher education under this system.

In Hong Kong, we also have such similar system that university students can repay their loans after graduation. The university tuition fee per year is about HK$ 40,000 which is quite expensive. Many students cannot afford it so that they would apply the government loans for paying the fees and pay back after graduation. If poor students want to get the loan at lower interest rate or even no interest, they must pass the means tests. On the other hand, all the university students, despite rich or poor, can apply the non-means tested loan for their studies as long as they are willing to pay the normal interests that the government decided. In the past, there is no non-means tested loan for those who want to get university education but cannot afford the fees and cannot pass the means test. Therefore, many people give up their dreams of getting university education since tuition fee is the main problem. The non-means tested loan and the pay back system can help many people to a! chieve their dreams although they will take the heavy burden for repaying the loan after gradution. I think it is worth.


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Judy Gao in China writes:

Students loans is not popular in china.
Most of students had to rely on their parents to affords the tuition but the pressure is the same, that means the parents had to face big working pressure to earn more money. Many young parents nowadays begin to make a education plan for their child, of cause a plan to earn money.

Prof. Anwar Lodhi in Pakistan writes:

I think this is a very good decision,
as students in Britain will be prone to learn dedicatedly because they would be pre-occupied with the idea that they would have to pay later on.therefore they will leave no stone unturned to be qualitative graduates. Moreover , they would rely more upon themselves than the government.this programme will teach them self-reliance

Miao in China writes:

To my mind ,the the new way of paying is a good system entirly.Of course ,every coin has its two sides,so does the system above.However,it can enable the students from poor families to go over their high education period without heavy spiritual or financial burden.Otherwise,these students have to spend their precious time in earning money other than study,omitting their initial purpoes.
In my country,we have to pay tuition fees by ourselves.Only some outstanding students can get schorlarships from their university and some specially poor student can get govenment schorlarships to help them continue their study career.In my home university ,we can get loans from commercial banks with low interests,just as in U.K. We consider it a good idea to help the poor students and call it "to realize today's dream with tomorrow'money.



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Anonymous in France writes:

In France, students pay for registration at university but not for tuition. The teachers and professors are appointed and paid by the Board of Education, they are civil servants. There are grants for students who cannot afford to pay for their studies but those are fewer and fewer, unfortunately. This year, two universities in France (one in Paris, and one in Toulouse) had to close down for a week or two because they didn't have enough money to pay for the heating. So they decided to close down and save money by not heating the buildings during the cold period and catching up in the warm months (June and July). I guess a lot of people in France don't realize how privileged we are not to have to pay for our tuition, compared to many other countries around us, including the UK. Because many abuse that rather generous system (by registering at university just to have a grant or a student card which allows them to get discounts!), it may not exist for a very long time! . Shame on us!

Farid Salmanov in Azerbaijan writes:

Actually I do not have much information about new changes in the UK and frankly speaking have no time to get into them but I think that the system in our country is quite OK.
There should always be public secondary schools and universities(free education). And of course they should provide quite a good education, at the same time no one argues against private schools and universities but we must bear in mind that there will always be talented students who can not pay for their education. That's why governments MUST take certain obligations and support those students (at least we do not pay taxes just for state workers salaries).

Jin in China writes:
I think the new way, is very bad system!

Kuang Xu in USA writes:

When I was studying in Beijing Foreign Studies University in 1988, I didn't have to pay any tuition fees. The only things we had to pay were the textbooks and the quilts in the dormitory. Generally there was no need for the students to do part-time jobs because most of the families could afford their children's living expenses. However some students from poor families did engage in extracurricular activities such as delivering bottles milk to the faculty's living quarters in order to earn some pocket money. The head of this milk delivering group was nicknamed "nipple" because the combination of the words "head" and "milk" happens to be pronounced the same as the word "nipple" in Chinese.

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Sang-Eun Nam in South Korea writes:

I think the new way of payment will make student to give up their high education. I just came back from England and for foreign's opinion, England are going to wrong for thier education, they only think about money. which is more important?



Ban in China writes:

as a chinese,i saw seldom in china like this .our fee is more and more with the year running.it means the development of china.however ,the rich become richer and the poor become poorer.it's obvious in china nowadays,completely different from before.maybe it's common in your country ,but...

Corine Saint Martin in France writes:

To my mind, it isn't a good system. It deprived from university a lot of students who can't face paying back for 10 years or more 100€ a month for their studies. When you have, at least, succeeded in finding a job, you want to rent a flat and some equipments for it and maybe you have to buy a car, which is necessary to go to work, and you can't face so many loans to repay. You feel as "poor" as when you were student, despite of working. One of my friend had borrowed money to pay for her studies at university. She started to pay back when she got her first job (a badly paid job). She has few money left after repaying her loan, and she couldn't lose this job, because wihtout it she was unable to face her monthly paiements and keep her flat.

In France, we have two different systems. On one side, universities are nearly free. You have to pay tuition fees of only 250 to 300€ per year and you can get a grant from the state. The grants are not very numerous and of high amount, but they exist and help people from poorest families to go to university. Gathered with a part-time job, students can go on. On the other side, we have private schools which require high tuition fees (3000, 4500€... a year) and which are often closed to poorest students, unless they get a loan as written in the article. Actually, even whith a grant and a part-time job, they haven't got enough money without a loan. But a loan is easier to get for a student who comes from a wealthy family....

Before stopping, I want to apologize for all the mistakes I should have done, but I wanted to give my opinion."


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Pamela Ding in the People's Republic of China writes:

I think this new way of paying loans after graduation when your earnings reach a certain level is quite reasonable and helpful for those who can't afford the University fees. In my country, only a few number of students can get government loans, and most of them should pay their education tuition. And for some students, parents pay most of the fees, and though some other students do part-time jobs to cover their studying expenditure and they also work hard to get a scholarship from their colleage or university. In many fine universities which provide students with a good system of scholarships or some policies to help those from poorer families, students benifit a lot because their study burden is greatly reduced and they can be more concentrated on studying instead of squeezing every moment to do part-time jobs.

Nowadays many Chinese students want to go to the UK to study, but we find it's almost impossible to get a scholarship for most Chinese oversea students though most British universities do get a much previleged treatment for their own UK students.Dear Sir or Madam, could I possibly ask where can I read something about the government's policies for the overseas about scholarships?

Jose Jaimes in Venezuela writes:

I think, the new system, is a bad system, because the students desert the university before finish your career or not enter in the university, in my country have two types, goverment university(free) and private university(pay for this), and have scholarship in both.

Pyedamammad Pyeda writes:

Yes, I am a student and have alot to say on this issue that you have kindly raised. In respect of the price of educating oneself, I would just suggest to pick an old copy of any institution's advertisement etc say in 80's and compare the then prices with today's.I am doing a course in paralegal studties and would tell you that a course costing $58 in 1984 now costs $400 plus. Surprisingly the contents of the course say common law are still the same, building is the same but the cost has inflated hugely.

In Ontario the fees for Law colleges are being enhanced to a tune of $22,000 plus annual. It is surprising how the poor students and immigrants would go for it. In my view it is sade that the intenational scenario has influenced the process of education in the entire world. After the fall of Soviet Union no one has to worry about the welfare of common man and provision of basic amenities to the individuals. Higher education does fall any more in the very head and has now become just a business...The third world is to suffer particularly due to all this because earlier they had access to Soviet block for free higer education and during the forty years thousands of studnets were driven out from trees to become doctors, engineers and other professional free of cost. Now those universities are offering similar services against huge costs.

This means that the third world is to face a big crisis in coming future in the field of finding highly educated professionals. To me it is really alarming. The loan facilities for studnets is another huge burden as one would wonder how to repay the loan and shoulder the interest. Because the job markets after education is never predictable. For those with the immigrants back gound situation is further bleak beause their back home degrees are not considered to be valid enough and they have to retake the same courses in their new homes. I have a second class LLB from Pakistan besides an MA in Politics but still the Ottawa University did not entertain my request for LLM and I had to register for a Parlegal course to be eligible for working with lower courts and official tribunals. This show that the professional groups and organizations have their own safe guard mechanism where under they are making it difficult for the foreign qualified professionals to join in. Hence the market is being kept exclusively for themselves. The same is situation with doctors and other medical people. I think people should come forward to discuse the very issue and find a remedy.

On first place if an immigrant is allowed immigrations on the basis of his back home studies and standing then why they are not provided with the opportunities to work in their new home? The privatisation process has badly influenced students as they can not make pre planning and budgeting. You will understand this with an example of hydro billing that in the winter is being made to consumers here in Toronto on the basis of consumers demand. Last month during a freezing outburst the price of electric supply in Toronto was rapidly on rise with the lowering of tempraute. This way an average house hold was to pay some $10-50 more than the previous month. Similarly the cost of transportation has gone up. In mid 80 the Toronto Transit System would charge $34 a month that is now $98. And just the High School students are allowed a couple of dollars concessions.. I think students should be provided with biger tax brakes on make living and purchases?



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Thawatchai eiamkulbutr in Thailand writes:

Hello Remi O-host & Everybody. In Thailand the price of studying is going to be higher & higher. That is because of the parents willing to pay the best for their children. But there is some chance of good student,by living in the goverment work family.With some accounting support ,they could fight at entrance examination. The way is to keep some path.

Syed najeeb ali kiddie from Pakistan
writes:

Regarding fees in our country they are quite low according to british standards but wouldn,t it be better to keep the fees low for the student and spend more on education and less on defense

Ribeiro Marisa from Argentina writes:
I think the situation is unfair(In England). But , at the same time, I am Argentinian, and I can tell you that in my country , we have private and state education. This situation we can find out in initial level (kindergarten9, primary school, secondary school and university. The goverment have been discussed about why not regulate the university, but you know that my country has several economic problems and people are very unhappy with politicians. It is a controversial situation.It depends on the side of life you are.

Eun-Kyung Park from South Korea writes:

I'm sorry to hear that Students in the UK can face to debts beyond their ability. and I see some diffrence of culture in terms of "education". tuition fees in korea are also very expensive. but most of students are supported by their parents. I think parents's support, in a sense, doesn't help their independence. but we can't help it as long as we are not offered lots of jobs. even if we have part-time jobs, the salary is not more than monthly allownce. whenever a new semester begins, we demonstrate against an increase of tuition fee, but it doesn't work. so I think if universities offer various work-study jobs on campus, the money earned will pay for tuition. It's worth a try.


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Sunyi in China writes:

In my country, students have to pay for the learning in college. It's unfair,but I think for a long time it will continue.

 
 
 
 
 

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