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Broadcast 8th January 2000
QUESTIONS RAISED OVER AMAZON.COM EVER MAKING A PROFIT?

It was a great Christmas for the Internet bookseller amazon.com. In the topsy-turvy world of the Internet, Amazon proudly told investors it sold more books at a loss than last Christmas - but there are signs some investors' patience with the strategy of expanding at all costs is wearing a bit thin.

Amazon.com has been hit hardest of all the Internet stocks in the New Year. It sold 20 million items over the Christmas period and, if it can't make money selling that much, Martin Webber asked the New York-based Internet consultant Randy Ramirez why we should believe it ever will?
"As long as Amazon is still selling a million shares or whatever it is a day, people are still going to come back and they are still going to funnel more capital into this company, in the belief that, several years down the road, it will turn a profit and will fall into typical or normal valuation models.

"For a company like Amazon, I could easily see them sustaining this pace for the next ten years. There's still going to be this interest because this Internet medium is not another industry. It is not another fad. It is not a trend. This really is an industrial revolution that connects on a global basis. For the first time, anyone can walk into the living room or office and get connected around the world and have everything that they need almost at their finger-tips.

"That's how typical business models normally work: first you want to dominate on a market share level, you want to keep the interest of the public, you want to garner support and interest in the company and for the products.

"The way you do that is by doing some form of marketing blitz. And marketing costs money. Advertising costs money. Then you want to spread yourself, as Amazon is doing, across all types of media and interests. And then it's much easier to manage the cost, the expense and the operation site after the market share exists."

Amazon can count on an increase in the sales once the market share and the base is there. Randy Ramirez

Tom Allen runs Staceys, a traditional independent bookstore in San Francisco. He's suffered having to compete with the Internet operations selling books at a loss. For Mr Allen, the Amazon strategy of selling at a discount over the Internet has always been flawed: Mr Allen says it will sell lots of books, but it may not ever make amazon.com any money:

"I'm puzzled as to why so many investors seem so enamoured of the idea - not just with Amazon. If they were the only player, then I would say the prospects are great for their success, But there are so many others. For the handful of survivors, it will eventually be a profitable business model, although the discount to consumers might not be so great.

"The only stores I know which are making money at this are those which primarily sell used books over the Internet, because the profit margin is greater and there is less competition. In every other case that I know of, whether it's a big company like Amazon or a small retail store, it's not profitable selling new books on line because of the technology, the equipment, the hardware, the experts to do the programming and keep it running."

Certain individuals are just banking on the fact that Amazon will be the survivors and the others will drop out. Tom Allen
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