Schools debate: the Commonwealth Games

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    UPDATE: This debate has now closed.

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    1035:

    There are 25 minutes to go until our LIVE schools debate!

    Today's debate is about all things Commonwealth Games, and in particular, we'll be looking at the newly unveiled mascot for the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games - Clyde, the 'thistle man'.

    Take a look at the video on the right to find out more about Clyde, and let us know what you think of him!

     
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    1100:

    Good morning everyone! Well, it's morning for us. We'll be joined shortly by schools from around the world - so basically, no matter what the time is where you are, welcome!

    We'll be discussing the Commonwealth Games and sporting mascots over the next two hours. We want to know what you think of Glasgow's new mascot (see video, right) - and what you think of mascots generally.

    Perhaps your school has its own mascot? If so, send us a picture, and we'll publish it right here!

     
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    1105:

    Right - to kick things off, a little competition for you all. We'll be posting pics of mascots from the past, to see how much you remember.

    First school to identify them wins...well, nothing. Apart from the respect of all the other schools. And that's important, right?

    Here goes - an easy one to start with. Who is this chap and which Commonwealth Games was he the mascot for?

    Who is this? Who is this?
     
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    1106:

    Your comments are flooding in already - we're joined now by Bedford Academy in Bedfordshire, UK. Good morning to you!

    Chelsea writes: "I like the mascot I think it reflects the country where the Games are being held and gives Glasgow an identity. I think it actually works better than the Olympic and Paralympic mascots as you know exactly where the Games are being held by the mascot."

    And Imran writes: "I like the way the mascot was inspired by children for children. I think sometimes mascots and logos can be too commercial and made by big companies"

    Great comments! Do you think that Clyde represents Scotland well? Like Imran, do you think that more mascots should be designed by children?

     
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    1107:

    Danville Park Girls' High School in Durban, South Africa, have watched our mascot film during their geography class!

    Miriam writes: "The mascot is a good representation of Scotland, with the name, and is symbolic of Scotland's history and culture."

    And Yuvna writes: "I think a mascot is essential to the success of a country. It is a symbol and proud ambassador of the country."

    Thanks very much for getting involved with these great comments! Do you think that the mascot is a good symbol of Scotland?

     
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    1113:

    Milton of Leys Primary in Inverness, Scotland, are also online - hello to them!

    They've send in this fantastic picture of their debating team with their school mascot! His name is MOLey Mole (MOL in capitals as initials of school's name), and he was designed after the school ran a competition.

    We think he's great!

    Milton of Leys pupils with MOLey Mole! Milton of Leys pupils with MOLey Mole!
     
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    1114:

    Hello and welcome to The Millennium School in Mohali, India.

    Kshitija, Riya, Aman and Anhad have shared their thoughts of the Delhi 2010 Games with us.

    They write: "Awakening of a giant - from one to 101 medals for India in 76 years.

    "India hosted the Games for the first time in this year (2010) and it was only the second time the event was held in Asia after the 1998 Kuala Lumpur Games. Our sportspersons really did wonders in the Commonwealth Games."

    Thanks guys! We'll be hearing more from them a bit later.

     
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    1117:

    We already have a winner in our mascot competition (see 1105 entry)!

    Siddharth from Apeejay School in New Delhi, India, tells us: "The mascot in the picture is Shera!"

    Well done Siddharth! We're not suprised he knows - Shera was the mascot for the Delhi Commonwealth Games in 2010.

     
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    1118:

    Good morning to Upasana from Gyanodaya School in Kathmandu, Nepal, who tells us: "I think Clyde is adorable.

    "He is a good mascot for Commonwealth because he looks friendly and represents friendliness and sportsmanship. He is sure to inspire others!"

     
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    1121:

    Let's hear more from Apeejay School in New Delhi, India.

    Mridul writes: "Hosting the Commonwealth Games was easily one of the memorable experiences India has ever had. The Games were held only for a couple of weeks but, the celebration was on for a much longer period."

    Sounds great! We'll be hearing more from Mridul later.

    Are you an Indian school with memories of the Commonwealth Games, or a pupil from another city who hosted the Games? Write in to worldclass@bbc.co.uk and let us know about them!

     
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    1126:

    We really like this comment from Jordan, who is in Year 9 at Bedford School in Bedfordshire, UK:

    "Is there a Paralympic version of the Commonwealth Games?", he asks. "If not, why not?"

    We can actually answer that question for you, Jordan - essentially, the answer is no. But since the Delhi Games in 2010, some disability events have actually become part of the able-bodied competition.

    This will be the case in Glasgow in 2014, too. But there aren't many of them and for most disabled athletes the only way of competing at the Commonwealth Games is to qualify for the able-bodied events.

     
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    1128:

    Fantastic question from Jordan below, there. But what do you think?

    Should able-bodied and disability sports be combined? Or should disabled athletes have their own Commonwealth Games, like they do in the Paralympics?

     
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    1129:

    Welcome to Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, UK!

    They write: "We like the fact that Clyde looks really Scottish and happy. He's a good dancer too. We think Clyde represents Scotland well by being a cool, colourful thistle. If we were to design mascots they would be a raindrop, a haggis and a Highland coo (cow)."

    Great mascot ideas! Cumbernauld Primary has a history of producing Commonwealth Games mascot designers - thanks for getting involved!

     
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    1130:

    Siddharth from Apeejay School in New Delhi, India, writes: "If I start jotting down all the major events that ever took place in Delhi, the Commonwealth Games of 2010 would surely be one of the most important of them.

    "The Games impacted the city in a huge way. The Games brought together every individual and the country seemed reunited."

     
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    1135:

    World Class are honoured to have received an email from the organisers of the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games!

    "Glasgow 2014 would just like to say a big hello to all of the schools taking part in the debate!

    "You can follow our mascot Clyde on Twitter or join us on Facebook!"

    Thanks very much for writing in guys! Glad you're enjoying the debate.

     
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    1137:

    Cumbernauld Primary School from Glasgow, Scotland say: "We'd like to congratulate Beth on creating Clyde.

    "We're so proud to have had the mascot designer in our school. We loved being at the BBC studios for the launch of Clyde. It's made us so much more interested in the Commonwealth Games. The school is buzzing!"

     
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    1140:

    We've had another great mascot photo sent in, this time from Danville Park Girls' High School in Durban, South Africa!

    They tell us: "This is Lucy the Lioness. We also have a statue of her and our saying is: "Enter as a cub (Year 8) and leave as a Lioness (Grade 12)".

    Great stuff! Does your school have a mascot? Send a pic to us at worldclass@bbc.co.uk.

    Danville Park pupils with Lucy the Lioness! Danville Park pupils with Lucy the Lioness!
     
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    1144:

    A great email from Amrit from Gyanodaya International Residential School in Kathmandu, Nepal.

    He says: "We do have mascots in our school and the mascots of our school are Tom the cat and Jerry the mouse. Our motto is "Towards friendship".

    We even had a song composed in the name of our mascots and that is written as below:

    "Towards friendship, we play the game. Winning is awesome, it brings happiness.

    "Losing we understand, it may bring sorrow. But why worry! There's tomorrow.

    "Let's play the game. Fair game. Let's play the game. Fair game.

    "Open up your wings to fly and towards friendship we play the game."

    Thanks Amrit!

     
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    1145:

    Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, UK, think that "The Commonwealth Games are just as important as the Olympic Games, if not better.

    "Sadly we do not know anything about the history of the Commonwealth Games."

    What do you know about the Commonwealth and the Games?

     
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    1149:

    And Cumbernauld Primary School also have this to say in response to our question at 1128.

    "We think there should be separate competitions for disabled athletes at the Commonwealth Games. We think that it should be separate to make sure everyone has a fair chance.

    "We think that it should be held to celebrate everyone's successes and achievements."

    Interesting comments. What do you think?

     
  22.  
    1150:

    THE STORY SO FAR: We're 50 minutes into our LIVE debate with schools around the world.

    Your comments and opinions have been fantastic so far - keep them coming!

    And if you're just joining us, we are discussing the Commonwealth Games and sporting mascots.

    We've also been asking the question: do you think the Commonwealth Games should have a separate event for disabled athletes? (See 1128 update for more details on that one.)

    And make sure you check out these great reports from Scottish schools on preparations in Glasgow for the 2014 Games.

    Here are two short films from Glasgow's St Mungo's Academy and Whitehill Secondary School, produced with the help of BBC News School Report.

     
  23.  
    1152:

    Right - it's time for another mascot competition!

    A little bit harder this time. Who is this chap? And which Commonwealth Games did he represent?

    No prizes on offer - just the warm glow of satisfaction you'll get when you beat the other schools to the answer.

    Who is this? Who is this?
     
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    1153:

    A World Class hello now to Chiranjiv Bharti School in Gurgaon, India.

    Prakriti writes: "2010 was an amazing year for us Indians, as we got the honour for hosting Commonwealth Games in our country.

    "Who can forget the amazing opening ceremony we had on 3rd Oct? I was myself left spellbound."

     
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    1154:

    Siddharth from Apeejay School in New Delhi, India writes in response to our question (see 1128):

    "I think that disabled athletes should have their own version of the Games.

    "If there is any disabled athlete who wants to compete in the able-bodied Games, he or she should always be given a chance if there are no dangers involved.

    "Every human whether able-bodied or not is equal and should be treated the same way. Participation is all that is important!"

    Really interesting comments from Siddarth there - do let us know what you think by emailing us at worldclass@bbc.co.uk.

     
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    1156:

    Anukriti from Chiranjiv Bharati School in Gurgaon, India writes: "The 2010 Commonwealth Games held in Delhi was an event that did all us Indians proud.

    "Not only did we perform exceptionally well, but we also did an outstanding job at hosting this prestigious event.

    "The Games had a huge impact on Delhi, as our capital got a total makeover, making it even more beautiful & special."

    We've had some excellent comments from Indian schools today about the Delhi Games, all of which have been very positive.

    Do any of you Scottish schools out there have similar hopes for 2014?

     
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    1158:

    Let's hear now from The Sagar School in Delhi, India, who have just held a school assembly and tell us: "Everyone liked the video and the information about the mascot."

    Pupil Helga says: "I think that the new Commonwealth Games mascot is quite cute.

    "I also agree with the fact that Clyde will be popular with the children. He will amuse the kids well.

    "All I know about Scotland is that this is the land where people play bagpipes and where the legend of Loch Ness Monster lives."

    Thanks for those comments, Helga!

     
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    1200:

    Amrit from Gyanodaya International Resident School in Kathmandu, Nepal writes in to tell us what he has found out about the Commonwealth Games.

    "My sports teacher, Mr Khaling told me that the Commonwealth Games is an international, multi-sport event involving athletes from the Commonwealth of Nations.

    "The event was first held in 1930 and takes place every four years. The Games are described as the third largest multi-sport event in the world after the Olympic Games and the Asian Games."

    We couldn't have put it better ourselves!

     
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    1201:

    Well done to Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, Scotland, who have correctly identified the mascot in our competition (1152)!

    They tell us: "It's the 2002 Manchester Commonwealth Games mascot, Kit".

    Well done to them! Very impressive.

     
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    1203:

    A quick update to let you all know that there is one hour to go in our LIVE schools debate.

    Cracking comments so far - keep it up!

    You're sending in so many great opnions and thoughts that we're taking a while to get through them all, so please be patient with us if your mails have not been published yet.

     
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    1204:

    The Millennium School in Mohali, India have got in touch to talk about the 2010 Delhi Games.

    They write: "It was a wonderful learning experience for the whole country.

    "We learnt not only about the various Games, but also about the participating countries. A lot of cultural exchange occurred on the sidelines of the main events."

     
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    1205:

    Hello to Newburgh Mathers School in Aberdeen, UK, who have just joined us!

    They write: "We are looking forward to the Commonwealth Games in 2014 because Glasgow is only three hours away for us and we should manage to go and see some of the events and well-known athletes - especially our wonderful Scottish athletes such as Sir Chris Hoy, Michael Jamieson, Hannah Miley, Robbie Renwick, Tim Bailey and many more!"

    Sounds like you're all really looking forward to the Glasgow 2014 Games!

    Which sports and athletes are the rest of you looking forward to seeing at the Games?

     
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    1208:

    Check out this great photo from Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, UK!

    They say: "Here are our House Captains and Vice-Captains with our school mascots.

    "They are called Craig and Paula after famous Cumbernauld residents Craig Ferguson (actor and comedian) and Paula Sage (actress and Paralympic athlete)."

    Cumbernauld Primary pupils with Craig and Paula! Cumbernauld Primary pupils with Craig and Paula!
     
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    1212:

    We've received a great email from Udayachal High School, Mumbai, talking about their experiences of watching a Commonwealth Games in their own country in 2010.

    "As 'Jiyo Utho Badho Jeeto' blared across The Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, New Delhi, we witnessed an outstanding opening ceremony to the XIX Commonwealth Games.

    "As the youth of India, we, students from Mumbai eagerly looked forward to be a part of this prestigious event.

    "For the upcoming fortnight, we viewed as India tackled its challenges in organizing, hosting and participating in these Games.

    "The Games' naturally developed infrastructure made Delhi a world-class city. However at stages the construction proved to be flimsy, with the collapse of the Nehru Bridge."

    Interesting stuff from Udayachal pupils. We'll hear more from them shortly.

     
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    1213:

    Prakriti from Chiranjiv Bharati School in Gurgaon, India, writes in:

    "All the events (at Delhi 2010) went down smoothly. I was lucky enough to get tickets for three of the events, in different stadiums each time.

    "My experience was just wonderful; I attended the discus throw and long jump. I and my cousins were so excited to sing our national anthem there.

    "On the whole, the Commonwealth Games made us all prouder to be Indians."

     
  36.  
    1215:

    From one Commonwealth Games to another: Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, UK write:

    "We're really excited about the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games.

    "We feel a little more excited about the Commonwealth Games than the Olympics because it is in our home country and is in our area. Also because we have our own team - Scotland."

    An interesting point there - how do other Scottish schools feel about cheering on Scotland rather than Team GB? Will you still support other UK countries?

     
  37.  
    1217:

    Siddharth from Apeejay School in New Delhi, India has got in touch to talk about the Delhi 2010 Games:

    "People of all ages, whether having any prior knowledge or interest in the Games, sat together as one and enjoyed every bit of it.

    "Although I didn't see any matches live from the stadiums, I could feel the frenzy with all the people on the streets."

    What do you think the atmosphere will be like during the 2014 Games?

     
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    1222:

    Let's hear more from Udayachal High School, Mumbai, India, about what it was like having the Commonwealth Games in their own country in 2010.

    "In our country, there were advantages to (the Games). Firstly, a lot of employment opportunities were provided and their communication skills were honed too.

    "On a people level the common man came to appreciate the efficiency and discipline with which the Games were held.

    "One of the most significant benefits the Games had on India is improving our competency in the field of sports, and the testimony is in the number of Olympic medals we have won before and after the Games.

    "The 2010 Delhi Commonwealth Games 2010 is a role model for the coming generations on the basis of a new, vibrant India.

    "Now that the baton has reached Glasgow, we send our best wishes and hope your endeavour is successful.

    "SO, COME OUT AND PLAY!!!"

    Fantastic stuff from Udayachal - thanks very much for writing in.

     
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    1226:

    We've been joined now by pupils from Colegio Newland which is in Querétaro, México. Hi guys!

    "We think that the Commonwealth is a great net that benefits all. It is something really difficult to achieve because everyone has to agree with one single idea, but if we work together, it can be possible.

    "Thistle man' is very motivating to Scottish people. This cuddly pet represents Scotland, and it is the first Games mascot that is not an animal and clearly stands for what Scotland is."

    World Class will take Colegio Newland's word for it that Clyde is the first 'non-animal' Commonwealth mascot - if true, that's a great fact!

    The Colegio Newland debating team! The Colegio Newland debating team!
     
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    1227:

    Let's hear more from Rajagiri Public School in Kerala, India.

    Arshad writes: "The Commonwealth Games inspired students from across India to focus on various sporting events, and since India has not hosted the Olympics yet, the Commonwealth Games was the closest to the mega sporting event.

    "We also discovered the pleasures of watching events like lawn bowls and rugby sevens, sports to which Indian kids have not had much exposure."

     
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    1228:

    We've just been joined by Newburgh Mathers School in Aberdeen, UK, who write: "We feel more excited to cheer on the Scottish team because Scotland is our home country".

    They add, in response to our question at 1215:

    "We were enthusiastic about Team GB in the Olympics and Paralympics and we will support other UK countries but only when there is an event where Scotland does not qualify for the final!!"

    Who will you be supporting in 2014?

     
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    1230:

    UPDATE: 30 MINUTES TO GO!

    Just a quick update to say that we're going to keep running the debate until 1300 BST, so there is half an hour left to get in touch, if you haven't done so already.

    Don't forget - if you want to respond to a point made by another school, please do so!

    (In fact, we encourage it. We didn't call this a 'debate' for nothing, you know.)

     
  43.  
    1232:

    Right - it's time for our final mascot competition (cue huge cheers).

    It's a toughie, this one. Who or what is this, and which Commonwealth Games did it represent?

    Who is this pretty chap? Who is this pretty chap?
     
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    1236:

    Loads of Indian schools are getting in touch to talk about their Delhi 2010 Commonwealth Games experiences!

    Vidushi, Bhamini, Mahima, Mansi and Kritika from Ahlcon International School tell us:

    "Enthralling and at the same time mesmerizing, the opening ceremony portrayed the rich and beautiful Indian culture.

    "The 12 days of competition saw cut-throat competitions, smiles & success, fouls & failures and medals & memories! What made us even more proud was the 101 medals won by India in the sporting extravaganza.

    "Our school Ahlcon International, being centrally located near the beautiful Akshardam Temple and the Commonwealth Games village witnessed the complete pomp 'n' show of the first and biggest Games hosted ever.

    "We welcomed the official mascot 'Shera' on to the Campus, getting into a complete frenzy.

    "The Games didn't end but rather marked the brilliant beginning for India as a prominent player in successfully hosting the Games and proving to the world once again - INDIA ROCKS!"

    Great stuff - thanks guys!

     
  45.  
    1237:

    Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, UK write: "We would love to make a mascot.

    "Ours would have ginger hair, drink (fizzy drink) Irn Bru, wear a tartan dress and have a tartan bobble hat. We would call it Scotia Ness."

    Sounds like a brilliant mascot! What would your mascot look like?

     
  46.  
    1239:

    Pupil P.V Durga from PSBB Nungambakkamin Chennai, India, has written in with some memories from the Delhi 2010 Games.

    "Back in 2010, we in India were rather excited about hosting the Commonwealth Games in our country.

    "It kick-started with a grand opening ceremony with the performance of our favorite celebrities and showcased our country's rich culture and heritage. The Commonwealth anthem composed by our world famous music director A.R Rahman became very popular!

    "The spellbinding displays of colours and the use of amazing technology at the closing ceremony at the closing ceremony left us awe struck.

    "India was also complemented for the wonderful hosting. The Commonwealth Games kindled our interest in sports and helped us learn what the true spirit of sportsmanship is all about."

     
  47.  
    1244:

    A BIG well done to pupils at Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, UK, and Siddarth from Apeejay School in New Delhi, India, who emailed in at exactly the same time with the answer to our final mascot competition.

    They correctly identified 'Karak', the mascot of the 2006 Melbourne Commonwealth Games.

    The Karak (or more accurately, the South Eastern Red-tailed Black Cockatoo) was chosen to be the mascot of the Games in a bid to help save the endangered bird, by spreading the word about the importance of preserving old growth trees for nesting and feeding.

    A bit of trivia for you, there. You're welcome.

     
  48.  
    1245:

    Nicola and Elizabeth from Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, UK were lucky enough to be at the unveiling of the Glasgow 2014 mascot.

    They write: "We were at the unveiling of Clyde! We loved him, and he even blew us kisses!"

     
  49.  
    1249:

    We thought you might like a closer look at MOLey Mole, the official mascot of Milton of Leys Primary in Inverness, Scotland (see 1113).

    MOLey (the first letters stand for Milton Of Leys) was designed in a school competition - we think he's great.

    MOLey Mole, the Milton of Leys mascot MOLey Mole, the Milton of Leys mascot
     
  50.  
    1253:

    Let's hear more from Helga, from The Sagar School in Rajasthan, India!

    "My mascot would be like a seal sitting on an iceberg", she tells us. "The seal's name would be Joey. Joey would be slapping his fins together with a smile on his snout."

    Sounds pretty good to us! Here's a photo from The Sagar School assembly, held this morning, in which they talked about the Commonwealth Games and sporting mascots:

    The Sagar School's assembly! The Sagar School's assembly!
     
  51.  
    1256:

    Hello again to Bedford Academy in Bedfordshire, UK

    Jordan writes: "'I like the way that the Games have used nationalism to promote themselves. I think this will especially inspire people in Scotland to get behind the Games and turn up to watch and support."

    And Vanda thinks: "There are obvious reasons for having a mascot, like publicity and identity.

    "But I don't think that you can forget that selling merchandise with the mascot on will help to make the Games financially viable and also raise funds to put money back into grassroots sport in Scotland."

    Two really interesting points there - thanks very much for those.

     
  52.  
    1257:

    Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, UK, tell us: "Clyde is super. He'll make an amazing mascot and will be as well-known and as identified as Wenlock and Mandeville!

    "From the thistle spikes to the saltire top, Clyde is a great Scottish mascot. It's amazing that the creator is only 12 and from Cumbernauld, our hometown!"

     
  53.  
    1301:

    Okay - that's a wrap, everyone! We're going to close our live debate now.

    It's been fantastic, as I'm sure you'll all agree - some brilliant comments from schools around the world.

    In particular, we had some messages of real excitement and optimism about the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games in Scotland, and a lot of interesting and equally positive comments from Indian pupils, relfecting on the 2010 Games in Delhi.

     
  54.  
    1302:

    We'll close the debate with a couple of great comments - firstly, Cumbernauld Primary School in Glasgow, UK have been in touch with their final thoughts on Clyde the Commonwealth mascot:

    "C-Cute and cuddly

    L-Loving and sweet

    Y-Yep, Clyde is great to meet

    D-Definiately love sports

    E-Exellently in basketball courts

    I like Clyde!"

     
  55.  
    1304:

    And finally, Siddharth from Apeejay School in New Delhi, India writes:

    "The Games venues would surely change every time, but the only thing constant that the Games bring is love.

    "I hope the best for Glasgow and wish them all the best for hosting the Games in 2014."

     

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