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Dylan Thomas: Is He Appreciated?

Dylan Thomas Do we make enough fuss of our most renowned writer? Should there be an official day to mark his contribution to Welsh life and literature?



In Ireland they celebrate "Bloomsday" on June 16 in memory of James Joyce. Should we be doing something similar for Dylan Thomas? Or do we spend too much time on the past at the expense of the present?

You can find out lots more about Dylan Thomas, and try out a Random Poem Generator, on the BBC Wales Dylan Thomas website.

What do you think? Have Your Say.


Alan Williams, now living in Spain says: "Dylan was a great man a character the likes of which are fast disappearing from our society.

My mother had a cafe in Llansteffan, and when Dylan would visit he often called for a bite after 'stop tap'. My mother, who could be a formidable woman had no love for the devil drink, and would throw Dylan out, sometimes bodily (she was a big woman).

"I often wonder as my father was the local postman, etc. Under Milk Wood...............?"

Chris Lloyd says: "My mother Gwen Baynham went to school with Dylan Thomas and was a friend - I only learnt details of this a short while before her death.

"He showed her some poetry he had written, 'What do you think of this Gwen?' She said 'pretty good' and gave it him back. She went on to Swansea Uni reading languages. He did not. 'Not clever enough' she said!

"At that time they all despised a Welsh accent and prided themselves on being able to disguise it one of her younger sisters is still alive and also remembers Dylan. My mother's father was the organist at St Mary's before it was bombed."

Beryl from Port Talbot says:
"I disagree that his use of language was pretentious. I also do not agree with the remarks that it is only academics who apppreciate his poetry. His lifestyle was not exactly conventional, but who has not a skeleton in their cupboards. The only difference with Dylan being they all fell out for everyone to see. I wish there was another Welsh poet of his calibre. We have some fine poets but I do not see or read one with his genius and word drama expressed in so few lines. The detractors should read some of his prose a 'Childs Christmas in Wales' is just what a kids imagination would have been like at the time it was written."

Siani of Swansea says:
"I read with interest some of the comments regarding Dylan Thomas, who grew up just a short walk away from my current home. I disagree with some of Mike of Swansea's observations regarding the obscurity of some of Dylan's works. Despite his unconventional and sometimes rather contrived use of language, it is possible to understand Dylan's works, with a little effort. They become clearer if the reader knows a little about his life, and the chronology of the poems, and can therefore cross-reference events in his life with the poems.

"Mike also asks about Dylan's rather bombastic, Anglicised manner of speech. His accent was influenced by a mixture of a grammar school education, rigorous elocution lessons and a few fancy airs and graces he gave himself - apparently these contrived airs vanished if he got drunk, and he would lapse into a far more Welsh-sounding accent, as noted by several of his biographers.

"As for Mike's assessment of Under Milk Wood - I grew up in a tiny West Wales community, and this play, despite seeming to portray caricatures and stereotypes, could have been written in the tiny village where I grew up, complete with its eccentrics, gossips, Bible-bashers, etc.

"One more point - sorry this is so long - Ross from Maesteg says he believes Dylan would be horrified at the Anglicized pronumciation of his name. This is not so - he and his parents, as noted by a couple of biographers, were adamant his name was pronounced "Dillon", because they thought the Welsh pronunciation of his name sounded too much like the English "dull 'un" or "dull one"."


Mike of Swansea asks can we be proud of Dylan Thomas?
"It is useful to have role models and inspirational figures from a local area, but there is always a danger of hyperbole. And this recent marketing is mainly hype. I am fairly well read, and claim to be one of the small percentage of the population (isn't it about 5-7%?) who do actually read poetry. I can understand relatively few of Thomas' poems.

"All seem to play interestingly with words and structures - like verse-forms. But what do they mean? Some half dozen (those I think I understand) have a sad resonance, and would sound impressive read aloud on R4, in the middle of the last century, as they indulge in a fair bit of pompous rhetoric. A feature made far worse when listening to the strangely accented Dylan Thomas read them aloud. Where does that voice come from? Why is it so English?

"And what is the substance of 'Under Milk Wood'? Aren't plays about society? What does that pleasant and amusing radio piece amount to? A lightweight diversion, which offers a view of the Welsh the world can giggle at fondly.

"Can we really be proud of a drunken, often unreadable wordsmith who betrayed friends and family? Well. yes, provided the work towers above its creator. In Thomas' case, it doesn't."



Sharon is a fan of Dylan Thomas:
"I have made time for Dylan Thomas. His grasp of Welsh life culture is to me second to none, along with RS Thomas. Whilst his personal foibles and erractic home life possibly detracted from his status as a writer, he grasps what it means to be Welsh by the throat and throttles it with exquisite, concise language and homely descriptions."



Ross from Maesteg says:
"Dylan Thomas' poems are amongst the most inspirational and enjoyable that there are these days. He was a magnificent writer and is something that Wales can certainly be proud of. One thing I'm sure he would love to know is how successful his poems are and how well known world-wide he is. However, one thing I'm sure he wouldn't be so happy about is the mis-pronounciation of his name, Dylan. Correct pronounciation of his name is Dull-an, not Dilan..."



Jackie Jones is a massive fan of Dylan Thomas' work:
"Dylan Thomas - no one has beaten his power with words. Today he would be a superstar poet and would be writing song lyrics as well as poems and plays, as well as making headlines like Eminem. In America he would be a sensation - very rock n roll. Original and ahead of his time without being an intellectual snob he rocked the poetry establishment.

" Not to everyones taste perhaps, but you cannot deny his awesome talent whatever anyone said about him. He knew the true components of poetry. Reading him for the first time I didn't 'get' what he was trying to say but soon realized the music of his words and the complex rhythms then I 'got' what he was saying. It was one of the most creative things to come out of Wales that I had come across. And he has fans from Mick Jagger to Bob Dylan who infamously named himself after reading Dylan Thomas. How many poets can boast that? Dylan Thomas will still be huge in the next century. They don't make them that often."



Tim of Bristol holds some very different views to Martin:
"Having read a large amount of Dylan Thomas' work, I can honestly say he is by far the greatest poet and writer I have ever come across. Yes - celebrate Dylan Thomas, yes - promote his work, yes - have a Dylan Thomas day to celebrate one of Wales's greatest artists."

"At the end of the day us Welsh do not celebrate enough of the things that are truly great about Wales. We won't get anywhere by being modest, we certainly won't get anywhere by dismissing poems recognised world-wide as being the 'rambling of an alcoholic'!



Some controversial views from Martin of Swansea:
"I think that the works of Dylan Thomas are valued by the pretentious intellectuals. For the average person the works of Dylan Thomas are poor to say the least. They are regarded as works of art by some but by others as drunken rambling of an alcoholic."



Here's the views of Chris from Llangammarch Wells
"What can one say about Dylan Thomas that hasn't already been said. I'm an Englishman living in Mid-Wales. I'm slowly becoming an avid fan of all his works. He got to the very heart of modern literature. A master of prose, poetry and drama. His diverse activities in all aspects of written word has never been equalled to date. A true Shakespeare of the 20th Century."



This is what Andrew of Brighton had to say:
"I may be wrong but I feel it would be a mistake to have a day celebrating Dylan Thomas. I love his writing and think he was supremely gifted in either poetry or prose, but I fear that the estabishment of one day would somehow risk his reputation being 'fixed' in one particular way. Also it could set up an unhelpful feeling that new writers are being forgotten."

"I think one possible idea would be to have a Dylan Thomas day that celebrates new writing. It would have workshops and readings - it would be an occasion where people could gather across Wales to celebrate what writers and artists are doing now."

"Reading through his wonderful letters, one feature of Thomas's life was his constant struggle to fund himself through jobs and generous patrons. Why not make part of his legacy a day when literary exposure is given to others, who might not have to suffer the same financial worries that Thomas did?"



Here are Sian's views from London:
"I think that there should be a day to celebrate Dylan Thomas's life as he was a gifted poet and should be given the recognition that he deserves."



Ralph of Swansea has memories relating to Dylan:
"I was a scholar at the Municipal Secondary School, Dynevor Place, Swansea at the time Dylan was at the Grammar School (up the Hill). I recall my English Master reciting a poem by Dylan which had appeared in the Grammar School magazine. He described it as "remarkable" for one so young. Is there any record of it? I think the year was 1926."


Phil of Swansea favours the idea of a "celebration day":
"Dylan Thomas is one of the greatest poets the world has ever known. His poetry has had a major influence on 20th century culture and his works have inspired countless artists. Swansea has a festival every year to celebrate his life and works but unfortunately no national day is set aside for him and there is little media attention."

"I would like to see a national day set aside for him on his birthday each year - 27 October. We could all go down the pub and recite his poems. I do have a massive interest in Dylan Thomas. I recently completed a Masters degree in Multimedia and I'm currently working on an interactive Dylan Thomas CD-Rom (it's in the prototype stages at the moment). It's a long shot but if you know of anyone who can help me promote this project I would be grateful."



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