your comments
Nick Williams, Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire
To Colin Richards, how good to hear from you, sorry about the delay getting back. I am indeed Babara's son and I have sent a letter off to mum to say you've been in touch. I am sure she will be thrilled.
Mon Jun 1 09:28:11 2009
Chistine Madsen
Me again! My aunty Vera and her sister Minnie and brother Ronald (surname Griffiths) were brought up in Acrefair, their dad was Benjamin Griffiths and their mum was Eliza Jones. Aunty Vera married my dad's brother Reginald Jones and her sister aunty Minnie married my dad's brother John Richard, known as Sonny, he had the chippy in Rhosymedre before Nat. I never thought to ask either of my aunts where they actually lived in Acrefair but I have a feeling that it would have been the Bowers Rd area. Aunty Vera always talked about her nephew (I think he was her nephew) Peris Jones, who lived in Bowers Rd. I was in school with his daughter Sandra but that was 45 years ago, I did not think to ask her how she was related to my aunty Vera. Does anyone remember them? Where they lived etc?
Mon May 18 09:03:40 2009
Chistine Madsen
Wil, you are a treasure!
Mon May 18 08:50:56 2009
Chistine Madsen
On Monday last, I again walked up Bowers Rd, with my son and Iolo my dog. We turned left at the triangle of grass where the road divides, the right hand side road goes to cross roads, and right again at the crossroads takes one to Penycae. Well, back to the grass triangle, we turned left here along a road going in front of the big house which I assume is Pen y Bryn Hall. My son thought that would lead us to Tower Hill but as we were adjacent to the front of the hall the road ended. A pathway went to the hall and a very badly laid 'track' was on our left going down hill slightly. My son said he had been to Tower Hill on his motor bike at the end of last year, he thought this was the way he had gone but he does not remember the road being so bad, where did we go wrong? Bowers Rd fascinates me, such nice houses high up and wonderful views. Another question is = Acre House, where is that? I have noticed a lovely big house with a veranda, painted in red and white, is this Acre House? Also, sorry to go on about this, half way up the very top part of Bowers Rd is a lovely house that looks to me as if it could have been a chapel at one time, it is on the left hand side as one goes up. Was there a chapel anywhere up there?
Thu May 14 09:49:23 2009
Wil, Wrexham.
Hello, Christine. I went up to "Cloc y Rhiw" today to refresh my memory. My stepfather used to "lay" hedges up there. I'm afraid the legs don't want to work as they used to in my teens many years ago. However, the actual location of Cloc is beyond Tyddyn Ucha farm, through two gates very close together and then it is at the farthest end of a 200 yards long stone wall. There are just 3 walls of the cottage left standing, but the stone wall would have enclosed about 5 acres of land when complete, unusual for this area. Much more than a lambing pen. I have other avenues to search for more info. so watch this space. Cheers, Wil.
Wed May 13 08:28:50 2009
Christine Madsen
Hi Wil, I have seen the frozen clock mentioned a few times. What was / is it? Someone mentioned on one of the sites why the "take away" by the Hampden pub is the shape that it is and what is was originally but try as I might I cannot find it again and due to "SENIOR MOMENT" I cannot remember what it said. Another building that puzzles me is the big building at the top of Chapel St, joining Bethania Rd and Bowers Rd. It is a grey painted building. It is a house now I think. Hardly any windows on the roadside and a curved end to it. It is near to the modern red brick flats. It looks like it could have been a pub. Was it?
Thu May 7 09:58:12 2009
Wil, Wrexham
For Peter Lawrence, Colwyn Bay and Christine Madsen. For Cloc y Rhiw, follow instructions below but fork right, for Cross Street, not left for the Mount. Go straight across the Penycae to Penybryn road at Cross Street and up past Tyddyn Ucha. The "Frozen Clock" is about half a mile ahead looking down on Newtown Village.
Thu May 7 09:44:00 2009
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
Jo Davies, I am sure that I sent in a correction of the picture that you are referring to (Maelor Youth) to the website team a couple of years ago to correct/amend the list of players in the picture of your father, Winston.
Thu May 7 09:39:46 2009
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
be careful if you try and find the "frozen clock" because I went in that direction about two years ago and had a load of abuse off a farmer wanting to know what I was doing up this track. All I was doing was to find out something about local history in the area. He was out of order. I have witnesses to prove this.
Thu May 7 09:39:27 2009
Wil, Wrexham.
Hello again, Christine Madsen. Go up the hill past the Oddfellows, keep left at the top. Keep right at the junction of Bowers Road and carry on for about a mile and a half, take the left fork for about a quarter of a mile, past the Mount smallholding, then Penybryn Hall and you come to the hamlet of Penybryn. The derelict stone cottage on the right used to be home to a family of about eight children plus parents, Mrs Sargeant used to have a "Sunday shop" just across the road. On leaving school I worked for Lloyd Morris, Penybryn Hall. After leaving the Army I drove a lorry for T. L. Parry, Yscubor Ucha, Penybryn, but worked from his garage on "The Green" where the caravan sales are now.
Wed May 6 10:21:11 2009
Peter Lawrence, Colwyn Bay
To Christine Madsen, and if you continue all the way up Bowers Road, I believe you would end up at the Frozen Clock!
Wed May 6 10:07:43 2009
Christine Madsen
Yesterday, my dog Iolo and I walked up Bowers Road all the way to the "triangle" where the road divides - one way goes to Penycae and I am told the other road goes to Tower Hill. Is the road still Bowers Road all the way to the "triangle"? Also, where is Pen y Bryn? Is it up any of the roads mentioned? There are lovely big houses as you go further up the road, and lovely views from by the triangle.
Tue May 5 09:28:57 2009
Jo Davies, Cefn
To Neville Bagshaw, hi, I'm Winston Edwards's daughter (the Winston in the team photo). I told him about your article regarding that football game as his name was left out in the original posting (and I think he was a bit disappointed). He remembers you well as although you played for the opposition he said he was also in Tech with you at that time and recalls that you are one of twins. He's also surprised that you have the original programme from that match as he said he didn't realise that there was one! I would love to obtain one for him as I'm sure he would be over the moon. He asked me to send his regards to you and hopes you are well.
Tue May 5 09:18:58 2009
Colin Richards from Shetland
To Nick Williams Huntingdon, Cambs. Did your grandparents live in Charles Ave, Trevor? If so your mum is my cousin. She had one brother & 2 further sisters. I used to live in Cefn, moved Ruabon then Sussex now Shetland. If the relationship is correct you would have had an uncle who was a local councillor.
Tue May 5 09:16:01 2009
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
To Neville Bagshaw, nice to see/hear from you after all these years. You used to live on the main road in New Broughton and I would stay with my grandparents at 2 Gatewen Road. I have been trying to contact you for ages but to no avail. I had a cousin who used to live there with her brother Russell. Her name then was Ann Williams. There was another chap that used to live in Coronation Terrace that you might recall.
Thu Apr 30 08:26:28 2009
Neville Bagshaw, Salford
Acrefair Photos and Memories website photo no.16 Maelor Y.C. football team. They played Tanyfron Y.C. In the Final of the Soames Denbighshire Youth Cup at Wrexham FC ground. Monday April 25th 1955 kickoff 6.30. The result was 3-1 to Tanyfron Y.C. I, Neville Bagshaw, played centre forward for Tanyfron, scored one of the goals. I have an original programme, the price 2d. Maelor Team was Goalkeeper, Keith Bowers. Right Back, Deryn Dukes. Left Back, Derek Case. Right Half, John Rowlands. Centre Half, Roy Davies. Left Half, Bobby Williams. Outside Right, Gerald B (Bassett)? Jones. Inside Right, Tony Bates. Centre Forward, Cortney Owens. Inside Left, Neil Williams. Outside left, Winstone Edwards.-- Reserves Ronald Jones and Roy Irving. Roy Davies was in the same class as me in Secondary Tech. I'm sure ROY worked later at Monsanto Chemicals. Great memories. Nev Bagshaw, ex New Broughton.
Mon Apr 27 09:03:45 2009
Sue Weldon (was Jones) Birmingham
Have really enjoyed reading all the comments from everyone. I lived in Delph Road, Acrefair, from 1975 until I left to get married in 1994. I now live in Birmingham but visit Wales often as my family are still there. I went to Acrefair school until 1979. It has since been knocked down. I then went to Madoc school which is the now Acrefair infant and junior school for a year before moving on to Ysgol Rhiwabon. It was great reading all about people's memories even if they were way before my time. I remember the bridge and also remember it being knocked down. We had to walk to school on a pathway behind the Oddfellows pub. I never saw any trains go over the bridge as they had stopped running by the time I was born in 67. I remember my Dad (Fuzz) telling me all about it. DAVID HART, I was in school with your son, Stephen, I think, and I remember his Nan used to come into school and play the piano.
Wed Mar 25 08:04:39 2009
Nick Williams, Huntingdon, Cambs
So many memories brought back reading your stories. Lived in Trevor with my granparents, Alice and Gilbert Jones. My mum is Barbara, and aunts and uncle all lived locally. Went to Garth school then lucky enough to Acrefair in Denny Davis class, what a man. Have fond memories of him in later life. I had b'day cards from him till I was 18 and I think others did too. I worked with Len Sailsbury for a short while at Dobson and Crowthers in Llan. The Bluebell pub - what happened to that, closed last time I was home. Had a pint in the Oddfellows and Eagles last time I was up around 4yr ago now. Miss home ever so much but work keeps me away. Keep adding to this please as I love viewing the comments.
Tue Mar 24 14:24:17 2009
Tony Vaughan, Trefonen
To Hannah Phillips Wrexham: I was a pupil at Acrefair school from 1965-73 and remember Mr Phillips taking over from Denzil (Daniels?) in the early 1970s, I think, just as the old coal fired boilers were replaced by oil fired ones. I remember him as tall and wore glasses and always wore a boiler suit and if you helped (hindered more than likely) him with little jobs around the school he would always produce a sweet from his top pocket. Did he ever have his memoirs published? They would make interesting reading.
Fri Mar 20 09:07:45 2009
Hannah Phillips, Wrexham
My father Eifion Phillips lived at Cae Bedw, Acrefair, with his elder brother Alan and his late parents, Ernest William and Harriet Phillips. My Taid worked at the Co-op for many years before taking the post of Caretaker at Acrefair school. My Taid was a keen local historian and wrote his memoirs of Cefn, Acrefair and the Seion Chapel before he passed away. My Great uncle, Thomas George, was also the barber in Well Street, Cefn Mawr. If you think you have any photos or memories I would be delighted to share them.
Mon Mar 16 08:41:21 2009
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
To Stuart Fawcett, thanks for your answer regarding Reg Lambert of the Trinity Roll of Honour. I wonder who the caligraphist was that did the scroll and had this error been spotted before? The Roll of Honour is now in the safe hands of Wrexham Museum.
Mon Mar 2 10:29:30 2009
Phillip Owen from Market Bosworth, Leicestersrshir
My great grandfather Thomas Owen lived in Penbedw cottages Penycae in 1901 with his wife, Hannah and children one of whom was William, my grandfather. Thomas is shown on the census as Navyin clay pit. I would be very interested in any information regarding the clay pits and cottages, in particular whether the delph works was a cly pit and whether the photo may include my great grandfather.
Mon Mar 2 09:58:52 2009
Nick, Webteam
Tip: Now would be a good time to switch your conversations on to the BBC Memoryshare site as this form is to be closed. Once you post a message on Memoryshare, mark it as relevant to North East Wales - you'll see what I mean - so other people can find it. Then other people can react to that specific memory and add their own comments so you can resume your chats.
Thu Feb 19 10:31:55 2009
Stuart Fawcett of Chirk
Leonard Salisbury re Reginal Lambert. Reg was one of 8 children living in 1901 at 19 Tower Hill. All born locally - Reg was born in 1900.
Thu Feb 19 10:28:40 2009
Leonard Salisbury, Acrefair
To John Raymond Griffiths regarding your sister-in-law June, nee Jones, High Street, Cefn. I'm living in Trefynant Park and telephone number is in directory. Get her to give me a call.
Tue Feb 10 10:43:43 2009
Leonard Salisbury Acrefair
I have a picture of a Roll of Honour of Trinity Chapel of the First World War and looking at the names of people who gave service but did not die was the name of Reg'd Geo. LAMBER but no "t". His name followed two other names of LAMBERT. Can anyone throw any light on this name of Lamber without the "t" or is this a slip of the pen? Maybe the Lambert family can come up with the answer if they had family member of Reginald George.
Thu Jan 22 08:12:03 2009
David Hart. Acrefair/Cefn
For Den Vaughan. Anglesey. Thanks for the posting. Glad you saw my "input". My brother Jack lived on the Gold Coast in Queensland, but as Len Salisbury said, he died almost six years ago. His two daughters are still out there, one near Brisbane and the other in Melbourne. They both occasionally send some input to this site, so are keeping in touch with their roots. Hope you enjoy the trip out there in April. The Fonz is still THE FONZ! I will tell him you were asking about him next time we meet. He still talks about the Black Duck that we presented to him as a prize. Peter Jones (ex Sec.) sends his regards, as does Jack Thelwell. Give my regards to Frances and the family. Dave Hart.
Wed Jan 21 09:10:01 2009
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
To Dennis Vaughan. I'm sure Dai Hart will respond to your input but Jack his brother passed away a couple of years ago.
Tue Jan 20 10:04:45 2009
Dennis Vaughan, Llandegfan, Anglesey
Hi Dave Hart. Nice surprise to see your name. How is everybody? How is the fonz? Is the Black Lion still going? Have not done any fishing since I moved up to Anglesey. Frances works in Beaumaris, Emma our daughter lives there. See the boats Carismar and Starida often. Good memories Dave. Off to Australia in April to visit our son,is your brother out there? If you are still in contact with Jack and rest of the crew please give them my regards.
Thu Jan 15 10:04:19 2009
Glyn V Jones from Gresford
Having recently met up with Dai Hart and spoke about the website, I saw the note from Diane Williams (nee Powell) and remember her at Acrefair school.
Fri Jan 9 07:38:00 2009
David Hart, Acrefair/Cefn
For Cath Thomas, Mold. I have one photograph of part of the old Delph Works, with the Managers DELPH HOUSE in the background. I can send you a copy of it, if you let me have your e-mail address, via the web team.
Thu Jan 8 10:22:05 2009
Cath Thomas (nee Phillips), Mold
For David Hart. My grandfather was Arthur John Phillips and, according to my late father, resided at Delph House, Acrefair. I am currently trying to trace my family tree and would be very interested in any photographs of Delph Works or Delph House and for any information regarding Wyndham & Phillips.
Tue Jan 6 16:49:13 2009
Julie Marshall, Wrexham
Hi, does anyone remember my taida? Ted Richards worked for Roberts and Maginis brickworks, Trevor.
Wed Nov 5 08:09:58 2008
Chris Madsen
Anyone remember a Mark Williams from Acrefair who played for Wrexham football club in recent times and them moved on to other clubs?
Mon Nov 3 09:13:55 2008
Chris Madsen
To Philip Davies, thank you for replying. I am thrilled. How will I get in touch with Marjorie Dykins?
Fri Aug 22 08:02:07 2008
Philip Davies from Acrefair now living in Bradley
To Chris Madsen, I remember the Harrisons, Mrs Harrison's daughter is now Marjorie Dykins. She lives in Wrexham and there was an article in the local paper (Wrexham Evening Leader) about her the other day, telling of her involvement with AVOW, a charity association based in Wrexham.
Mon Aug 18 08:40:43 2008
Chris Madsen
Anyone remember any Harrisons in Bowers Road please? It seems they were my relations. Would like to hear about them.
Thu Jul 17 08:43:23 2008
Stuart Fawcett of Chrik
To Yvonne Pryce; Thanks for the reply, and good to hear from you. Also, es I have got an old school photo but it is copywritten. I had forgotten about the singing. Some other nmaes were Georgie Findley, Peter Williams (Tower Hill), Albert Price, Wendy Hull, Glynis ?, Envis Lewis. Hope this gets some responses.
Mon Jun 9 07:33:19 2008
Yvonne Pryce
To Stuart Fawcett. Acrefair School 1960s. I was in your class in school along with David Roberts, Brian Littlemore and Neil Parry. How are you keeping - do you remember the lunch time performances that your group put on, complete with guitars and some great singing? Any old class photos that you can put on the web would be appreciated.
Mon Jun 2 09:46:17 2008
Stuart Fawcett of Chirk
Thinking about Acrefair school during the late fifties and early sixties, where did Brian Littlemoore, David Roberts (Maelor Terrace) and Neil Parry end up?
Fri May 30 08:32:14 2008
Sylvia Roberts from Hawarden
To Dorothy Prydderch from Bramhall: what a lovely surprise to find your message today. I was aware that your mother was adopted by dad's Uncle Joe and Aunty Kate. My cousin Dorothy Johnson is older than I am and remembers you better when we used to visit your grandparents. My father, Arthur Thomas and his sisters, Gladys and Annie, were cousins to your mother. I haven't told Dorothy yet that I have had some replies in case nothing came of them, but she will be delighted now that I have actually made contact with the family. I will contact the Web Team with my contact details and look forward to hearing from you.
Tue May 20 07:37:44 2008
Margaret from Cheshire
To Len Salisbury. Doug Johnson's sister was Muriel. They both sang in a skiffle group with some lads from the surrounding area. They sang in a few local pubs. Doug married a girl from 'Fron' and lived there.
Tue May 20 07:21:02 2008
Dorothy Prydderch (Jones) from Bramhall
To Sylvia Roberts from Hawarden - Susan Gordon Jones contacted me to tell me of your search for information on the Thomas family. I am the youngest daughter of Ida May and Charles Harold Jones of Ruabon and sister to Graham, Jennifer and Eileen. I am happy to help in your search but feel you should know that my mother was adopted by Joe Thomas and his first wife (I don't know her name) at eight, after her mother died in 1914. Joe then married Kate (again, I don't know when). They lived in Melinda House in Cefn. My mother was originally Jones but changed her name to Thomas. She had seven siblings by her parents Edward Thomas Jones and Florence Sarah (nee Jordan).
Mon May 19 09:11:10 2008
Sylvia Roberts of Hawarden
To Leonard Salisbury: Thank you for your interest, but I'm afraid the name of Duggie Johnson doesn't mean anything to me. My aunt, Gladys Thomas of Acrefair became a Johnson by marriage long after she had left the Acrefair area. I hope that your information could be of help to Chris Madsen though.
Mon May 19 08:52:30 2008
Len Salisbury
Do you mean Doug Johnson who used to sing with his sister years ago? I remember them singing tumbling tumbleweed so very well - was his sister Muriel? I must look into that. Thank you.
Mon May 19 08:42:35 2008
Sylvia Roberts from Hawarden
To Chris Madsen: Sorry, I wish I could help you - I know how frustrating it is to hit a brick wall when you are searching for family history. Dad's sister, Gladys Thomas of Acrefair, became a Johnson by marriage and her husband was from the Chester area.
Fri May 16 09:15:45 2008
Leonard Salisbury
To Chris Madsen & Sylvia Roberts does Duggie Johnson Top of Cefn ring a bell?
Fri May 16 09:06:46 2008
Chris Madsen
For Sylvia Roberts, my dad had a cousin Hilda Johnson from Acrefair. Was she related to your Johnsons do you know? I am researcing my dad's family and have drawn a blank at the Johnsons.
Thu May 15 08:15:33 2008
Sylvia Roberts of Hawarden
To: Susan Gordon Jones SW France ex Cefn Mawr. Thank you so much. This is getting exciting! I will check this website every day in case Dorothy gets in touch.
Wed May 14 08:41:39 2008
Susan Gordon Jones, SW France ex Cefn Mawr
To Sylvia Roberts of Hawarden. I have managed to contact someone who will phone Dorothy to direct her to this site so you should have some news soon. Good luck.
Tue May 13 08:50:30 2008
Sylvia Roberts from Hawarden
To Susan Gordon Jones ex Cefn Mawr: Thank you very much for taking an interest in my search for information on the Thomas family of Acrefair. My cousin Dorothy Rogers (nee Johnson) who is equally keen to find out more, was christened Dorothy after your friend Dorothy Jones. Their respective mothers, Ida Jones and Gladys Johnson (nee Thomas) who was my father's sister, were cousins. I have tried for years to find details of Delph House and family members without success, and thanks to this wonderful website and the kindness of yourself and David Hart of Acrefair, I am getting somewhere. Thank you.
Mon May 12 08:15:25 2008
Susan Gordon Jones (Whitehead) SW France ex Cefn M
To Sylvia Roberts of Hawarden - I was interested to read your post. I knew Dorothy Jones (now Prydderch) very well as I was in the same class as her in Ruabon Girls' Grammar School I also knew her sisters, Eileen and Jennifer and her parents. I will make enquiries among my friends and see if we can get some news for you. They had a cousin who also drove the buses. I remember one Christmas we had performed a Passion play in St Asaph Cathedral and he brought us all back to Ruabon but we first had to unload all the props into the Church. By this time it was the early hours of the morning and we were all terrified of walking past the graves into the dark church so he walked with us.
Thu May 8 14:45:43 2008
Nick, Web Team
Calling our [older] faithful contributors! We're involved in a local history project and looking for you, our regulars to share memories of local life during WWII. Find out more about the project which coincides with a play being staged here and based on memories of locals and Liverpool evacuees who came to live in North Wales. And please share stories and recollections via Memoryshare. Bye for now [Hwyl am y tro].
Thu May 8 08:32:49 2008
Sylvia Roberts from Hawarden
To David Hart of Acrefair: Thank you so much for the photographs of Delph House. It was very emotional to see the house where my father, Arthur Thomas, was born. My cousin (his elder sister's daughter) and I remember being taken to Acrefair to visit grandad's brother, Joe Thomas, and his wife Kate when we were little. Their daughter Ida was a music teacher and married Harold Jones of the coach firm Jones of Ruabon. Somewhere out there we have second cousins Graham, Eileen, Jennifer and Dorothy. I was too young to remember them but if there is any lead you could think of, it would be good to contact them as we all originate from the same Thomas family. The address of 65 Wynnville comes to mind. As young men, Grandad (John Richard Thomas) and his brother Joe lived at 13 Hughes Row, Ruabon which I found on the 1891 Census. Grandad married Harriet Ellen Phillips on Christmas Day 1901 at the Primitive Methodist Chapel in Rhosymedre. I am waiting to see my cousin's face when I tell her that we actually have a photo of Delph House! Thank you again, and any information on the rest of the family would be an added bonus.
Thu May 8 08:32:29 2008
Gareth Davies ex-Acrefair
To Irene Simpson, Auckland, NZ. Irene there's a reference to a Mrs Oxley's School in the Rev Dr E K Jones's book, "The Story of Education in a Welsh Border Parish or the Schools of Cefn Mawr 1786-1933", published in 1934. He writes that Mrs Huxley's Academy [sic] was carried on in the family home, which stood near the old "No 18" pit "about one hundred yards from the Cheshire". It was Government inspected and on one occasion there were fifty children present. James Huxley hailed from Wem in Shropshire and Mrs Huxley was a native of Liverpool. There's a lot more as it covers pages 45 to 49. Please get in touch via the BBC webteam.
Mon Apr 28 09:51:42 2008
David Hart/Acrefair
For Sylvia Roberts of Hawarden. Ref. your question about the Delph House. I have photograph of part of the Delph site, which shows some of the kilns, the cooling water pond, and Delph House in the background. If you would care to contact me, via the Web Team, I will send you a copy together with what info. I have about the site.
Wed Apr 23 08:23:34 2008
Sylvia Roberts from Hawarden
My late father, Arthur Thomas, was born in Delph House, Acrefair, when my Grandad worked in the brickworks. They later lived in "Morfa" Burton Terrace. The family then moved to Mancot for Grandad to work in the munitions works during the First World War. If anyone has any photos or memories of Delph House before it was demolished, I would be so grateful to hear from you. Has anything been built on the site? Any directions to find where it used to stand would be very much appreciated.
Fri Apr 18 07:46:13 2008
Irene Simpson, Auckland, NZ
Has anyone ever heard of a Huxley (or something similar) School in Acrefair please? I've been told my great great grandmother ran it and wondered if anyone out there has any info. Many thanks.
Tue Apr 15 08:29:36 2008
P Lloyd, Trevor
To Norma Hunt, gosh hasn't the site done well? It was about four years ago I asked on behalf of my dad for photos of the old cottages in Bowers Rd and you answered. Well dad is now 88 years old (89 in June) and guess what, still no photos. I think seriously he may have given up. But I print all the responses and take them to him. He loves to read all about everyone's thoughts. (What's the cost of several gallons of black ink if it keeps him happy?) Great to see a Cefn Mawr site too. Hope you are still keeping well, all the very best to you.
Thu Apr 10 08:14:20 2008
Gerald Bassett Jones, Cefn & Redditch
To:-Jennifer White nee Davies. I was most interested to see you mention your oldest sister Morfydd. We were friends in the early Fifties when we both attended Maelor Youth Club but I lost contact when she went to do nurses training at Alder Hey Children's Hospital in Liverpool and then I moved from the Cefn area a few years later. After the photo appeared at the head of this page of a group of children containing young Morfydd and Norma I contacted Norma to enquire the whereabouts of your sister but she didn't know. I was also aware of your father Ben the Joiner as I also worked at Monsanto during the Fifties. Kindest regards to yourself and your older sister.
Tue Apr 8 08:28:59 2008
Chris M
For Mark, Emlyn lived as a boy up Rock Hill, somewhere near Browns lane. The area was known as the "Rock". They were called "Delph" their nickname because someone in the family had shares in the Delph brick works or so Emlyn believes, maybe someone out there can add to that for you.
Fri Apr 4 09:17:14 2008
Mark Jones, Penycae
Hi I wonder if anyone can help, I'm doing a family tree and really just looking for stories or if anyone knew my family. 1st, my grandad, Emlyn Jones, lived in Cefn, 97 High Street to be exact. His parents were Alfred and Katie Jones. I know he's still alive, I see him now and then, he lost a leg in a pit accident. 2nd, my nanna, Elsie Jones, who died earlier this year, lived in Newbridge with her second husband Gwyn Jones. Love to hear of someone who may have known them or could help with some stories of when they were younger, because hearing old stories about people gives more life to the family tree. My father, who's also not with us any more, is Thomas Edward Jones or Eddie as everyone knew him.
Mon Mar 31 10:01:29 2008
Lois Wilson from Ontario, Canada
I will be visiting Wales in June and would be thrilled to find living relatives that are descendants from my great grandparents: Thomas Hughes born abt. 1832 in Llansilin, Denbighshire, and Ann (Edward) Hughes born abt. 1843 in Llangollen. They had at least 5 sons, John Hughes, born abt. 1860 Ruabon, Thomas Hughes, born abt. 1868, Acrefair, David Hughes born abt. 1868, Ruabon, Samuel Hughes, born abt. 1870, Chirk, and my grandfather, Edward William Hughes born abt. 1880. I have lots of information about the descendants of Edward William which I will be happy to share. Any information about my great grandparents and great uncles will be most welcome.
Tue Mar 25 09:52:58 2008
Van USA
Mairina Wilson from Ilkley, West Yorkshire...please contact me. Ethel was my grandma and Olive was her cousin in Wales.
Mon Mar 17 10:08:51 2008
Marilyn Jansen, Dukinfield
Thank you Len Salisbury for your comments. I wasn't sure of his surname but remember him well as quite a character. He was a dedicated honest postman, and a friend to everyone. Of course he knew most people on his rounds anyway. He was always on the church trips to Rhyl as well - those were the days, arriving in Rhyl on a wet and dreary day, (always rained on church trips) when we had no choice but to go into Woolworth's and buy one of those see through macintoshes. Some people stayed on the coach all day. Whatever happened to those innocent 'Darling Buds of May' days?
Mon Mar 10 09:29:23 2008
Chris Madsen
Idris the post used to knock our door often with a verbal message from my Nain to my Mum. He was very kind like that, can't see postmen today going out of their way to deliver a verbal message, it would not be allowed. Idris delivered parcels mostly as I remember.
Thu Mar 6 13:27:23 2008
William Russell Jones, Cefn Mawr
Marilyn, the only "Idris the Post" I can remember was Idris Kempster.
Tue Mar 4 13:32:41 2008
Leonard Salisbury
To Marilyn Jansen you mention Idris the Post, I have been out of the area for quite a few years but remember a name -Idris Kempster, who became a postman in the early fifties in Cefn.
Mon Mar 3 12:37:41 2008
Marilyn Jansen (nee Jones) Dukinfield
Thank you William Russell for your information about Walter. You mention Idris Jones - not Idris the Post is it? We all knew him as Idris the Post, if it is the one I am thinking of. A true funny story now - my Nain was taking some washing off the line on a frosty day and Idris the Post called with a parcel. She heard him shouting and walked over to him absent mindedly still carrying a pair of stiffly frozen bloomers. Idris was shocked rigid himself as he handed over the parcel and placed it in her free hand. She lived in Cefn Mawr but was from Bristol bless her.
Mon Mar 3 08:12:04 2008
William Russell Jones, Cefn Mawr
Yes Marilyn, Walter is married with two sons and three grandchildren. He married Brenda, who you may know as the daughter of Idris and Olwen Jones.
Fri Feb 29 07:57:43 2008
Alun Salisbury, Cardiff formerly Cefn Mawr
Following the correspondence on the Kilfoyle family reminds me that Jeffrey did have a sister. I'm taken back to the year 1962. It was the time when cars on our roads were few and comparatively expensive, but like many, I longed for one. Unbeknown to me all this was to change, for at the time Jeffrey Kilfoyle drove a black, 1951, 1500cc Vauxhall Wyvern, registration number KOV 738. The car was fitted with leather covered, bench seats and column gear change. A superb vehicle until one day his sister drove it in to a bridge at Weston Rhyn, causing extensive damage to the front bodywork, beam axle, suspension and numerous other components. Deemed to be too expensive to repair the car was given to me on condition that the vehicle was removed from site. It cost the princely sum of £2/10/0 to have it towed home. Following many months of hard work, in an open garage to the rear of Bowens shop in Well Street, Cefn Mawr, the car finally emerged fully restored. My very first car and reason for remembering the registration number. What a beauty. Some months ago I was visiting the village where Jeffrey lives and had hoped that our paths would cross to exchange these memories.
Thu Feb 28 08:30:28 2008
William Russell Jones, Cefn Mawr
Christine, it was a Hilda Alice Johnson that married a Thomas Albert Kilfoyle at Penycae in 1933. The only Hilda Alice Johnson in the area that I can find was born in 1903.
Wed Feb 27 09:41:17 2008
Marilyn Jansen (nee Jones) Dukinfield
Hello again William Russell - I am glad Walter is well. I should like you to pass my regards on to him and wish him a happy birthday. I will be 63 this year. Old chickens us. I am going to Australia and New Zealand on holiday in March for our 40th Wedding Anniversary. Has Walter got a family? Sorry I am being nosey but my choir friends are still of interest to me. Thank you for your interest too.
Wed Feb 27 09:03:44 2008
William Russell Jones, Cefn Mawr
Thanks Marilyn, and Walter is in not too bad health, considering he recently celebrated his seventieth birthday! I was on the phone to him last weekend,and he clearly recalls the incident you described, as he was laughing on the phone when I mentioned it.
Mon Feb 25 11:36:05 2008
Chris M, Acrefair
To Kathleen Hatchett, they are the Kilfoyles that I am looking for. Jeffrey became a judge, did not know they had a daughter though, thanks. Her maiden name was Johnson, so her mum was either a Jones or Morris. Does anyone know please?
Mon Feb 25 08:36:51 2008
Kathleen Hatchett, (Rowlands), Southampton, ex Acrefair
Is the Hilda Kilfoyle that Chris Masden is talking about the mother of Jeffrey and Margaret? I remember a family of that name living in Acrefair and I believe the son became a judge.
Fri Feb 22 10:50:46 2008
Marilyn Jansen (nee Jones) Dukinfield, Cheshire
To William Russell Jones: Thanks for the information regarding Kelvin. Sorry he died, he was a decent bloke and good fun to be with back then. If you are Walter's brother, then I can say that I knew him well and worked with him and your sister in Air Products, when we were all spring chickens, I even remember your Dad. How is Walter these days? We used to go across the road to the youth club building to have our sandwiches at lunchtime. One day Kelvin was painting his office walls with black emulsion and Walter and I were munching on our sandwiches and talking. Kelvin was up a ladder nearby. Then we heard swearing but ignored it and carried on talking. It was at that point that I noticed Walter's white shirt had blobs of black on it, there was also a bit on his sandwich, he saw some on my dress and hair, he looked puzzled and I was too. Then it dawned and we glanced up at Kelvin, shouted to him and he turned around and all but fell down the ladder when he saw the state of us. He had dropped the paint tin and it landed upright but the contents splashed everywhere, including on us. Kelvin had not bothered to turn around at the time but continued up his ladder. He drove me home to change my clothes and I remember Walter and he were convulsed with laughter because I made such a fuss about the mess on my clothing. Memories are made of this
Fri Feb 22 10:33:37 2008
Jennifer White nee Davies
I was born in 1945, the house was called Is-fryn, Bowers Road. Morfydd was the oldest then Mair and my twin sister Patricia. My father worked for Monsanto for 40 years. Norma was a friend of Morfydd playing on the banks. I remember crossing Dodds fields when I was 7 years old.
Tue Feb 19 10:04:28 2008
Meg, Bowers Road
Hi, can anyone give me some info on Acrefair's history?
Mon Feb 18 15:28:18 2008
Chris Madsen
Hilda Kilfoyle nee Johnson (aunty Hilda to me) was a relative of my dad Steve Jones (Ireland) however I never asked him how she was related, she lived on ? maybe still King St, near the bridge in Acrefair coming from Cefn. The houses are still there. I think she was a teacher. She was a jolly lady, always nice and friendly, any ideas of who she was? She either belonged to the Morris family or the Jones family.
Mon Feb 18 10:27:39 2008
Chris Madsen
To Stuart Fawcett, Thank you so much for your info on my great grandparents. They are indeed Richard and Jane. Did not expect Jane to come from "away". Now I wonder how they met, fascinating family trees, aren't they!
Mon Feb 4 09:28:55 2008
Julie Jackson,Wickford,Essex
Daisy Roberts (my nanna), Ruby Roberts (my mum) and Joan Roberts (my aunt) lived 16 Browns Lane, Cefn c.1930 onwards. Does anyone remember them. Ruby worked at the seed factory and then Gracies. We would all like to make contact with old friends.
Mon Jan 28 09:00:46 2008
William Russell Jones
Marilyn,Walter tells me Kelvin Ellis died a few years ago now.
Mon Jan 28 08:21:59 2008
Phyllis Jones, Acrefair
To Alwyn Price, Tarvin; I'm May Jones' daughter Phyllis. She died when I was 7 months old. You are right Dot, Graham were her first children then she had Elaine, Pat, Bobby and myself. It was my son, Mark, who has asked for info.
Thu Jan 24 13:38:23 2008
Stuart Fawcett from Chirk
Chris Madsen re Aaron Morris. It could be Richard and Jane Morris. In 1891 living in top of Cefn (Jane was from Staffordshire) Aaron is aged 1.
Mon Jan 14 08:51:24 2008
Marilyn Jansen, Dukinfield, Tameside
Is there anyone out there who was a member of the Maelor Youth Choir (Choir Master = Lloyd Edwards) circa early 1960s? We practised eventually opposite Air Products Acrefair not far from the railway bridge. What happened to Kelvin who was the youth leader in the same place? I know he married but where is he now?
Mon Jan 7 10:34:17 2008
Chris Madsen
Please, does anyone know the names of my great grandparents? Two of their children were Aaron Morris who married Edith and lived in the old Burton Terrace, had children Arthur, Harold and Mabel, who married Idris Powell, and my Grandmother was Annie Morris who married Thomas Hylan Jones, known as Tom Ireland who lived in Chapel St, Rhosymedre. Would be so thrilled to know. My Dad sadly died in 1985 and I never thought to ask him.
Mon Dec 31 09:06:20 2007
David Hart. Acrefair/Cefn
For Len Salisbury. Len, the Black Lion Pub you asked about was situated at the junction of Chapel Street, Bowers Road and Bethania Road. It was facing the top of Chapel Street. For your further info., there was a Post Office across the road from it, on the corner of Chapel Street and Bowers Road.
Mon Nov 19 08:55:22 2007
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
Hi Dai Hart, I must respect you for being an elder of the district with your abundance of knowledge of the Cefn and Acrefair area. Even I did not know that there was a Black Lion Road which must have been named after a pub, if so, where was the pub?
Fri Nov 16 08:43:32 2007
David Hart, Acrefair/Cefn
To John S. Hall. Barboursville. WV
Ref. your query about family information. You say that your father was born at 33, Black Lion Road. This road was re-named Bethania Road, many years ago. Bethania Chapel, which is located on this road, was built in 1901, so this may help in your search for info. about your grandmother. i.e was her death recorded at Bethania Road? Hope this is of some help.
Thu Nov 15 08:44:31 2007
John S. Hall Jr. from Barboursville, WV
My father, John Samuel Hall, was born in Acrefair, Wales at 33 Black Lion Road on June 4th 1899 to Alice Jones Hall and William Hall. Alice Jones Hall died sometime between 1902 and 1911 in Wales. After she passed away my grandfather brought my father and his brother Albert to the U.S. Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated.
Mon Nov 5 08:09:08 2007
David Hart. Acrefair/Cefn
For Anne Gill - Lincolnshire. Your memories of Cae Bedw are interesting, and no doubt you have enjoyed reading the comments that have been posted. I have lived in Cae Bedw for 35 years and know some of the persons you have mentioned. Gill Evans now lives in Llangollen but her mother, Betty, still lives here, in a bungalow that replaced one of the old pre-fabs. Christine lives across the road from her mother, in Minffordd, which fronts onto Bethania Road. Carol Jones now lives in Wrexham and has two sisters, Marlene and Hazel, also two brothers, David & Phil who you may remember. The Scout Hall is still standing but not used for scouting any longer. It is being looked at as a future potential housing site. Hope this is of interest to you. Regards, David Hart.
Mon Oct 29 15:45:16 2007
Anne Gill, nee Smith, Lncolnshire
My family, Harry and Mary Smith, my brother Peter and myself, moved to Acrefair from Yorkshire, soon after the end of the war. My father was employed at Monsanto. First we moved into 75 Heol Abon and were later rehoused at 17 Cae Bedw. So what do I remember. I remember a wonderful community spirit. Children playing on the bank and around the Delph although they were very dangerous places, and in the Cul de Sac. At one time I could remember every name of the occupants of Cae Bedw, now I only remember Tommy Dodd. Gill and Christine Evans, Carol Jones, No.14 and 15 were Evans, 16 was Claude and Prue Holt and Cynthia, who later move to Plas Isaf Rhosymedre, 17 Smith, 18 and 19 Jones, and Mr & Mrs Roberts at Acre House a really fascinating property. My father used to garage the car in their outbuildings and walk through the cutting between No. 14 and 15. I attended Acrefair school with my brother, walking down into the village past the Green Tin Tabinacle, and along the passage under the railway bridge, into the playground. Peter later attended Ruabon Grammar. I remember the first classroom with cots and beds, the cod liver oil and orange juice, the large open fires and the Caretaker's house at the side. I remember housing the entrants for the Eisteddfod and all their wonderful costumes, the singing and dancing in the streets. We had members of a male Swiss choir, and Spanish ladies in our house, one of these went on to be Spain's premier opera star Teresa Berganza. My mother kept in touch with these ladies for many years after their visit. I remember very well the children gathering at the top of Cae Bedw to see which of the girls would play the part of the Queen on Coronation Day. Carol Jones was the winner, and her younger brother was a page both in marvellous costumes considering the clothes rations. Everyone else was in fancy dress and we processed along to the Scout Hut for tea and entertainment. It was such a cold day that I had a woollen kilt under my fairy outfit to keep warm. I have one or two photographs of this day. The Scout Hut, yet another project by the Smith Family, my father was a keen Scouter all of his life, he thought of others and seemed to build scout huts in most of the areas we have lived in. There could be photographs of us still in the area. My father played cricket at Trevor and my mother sang in the local amateur choir and we all attended the local Parish Church. Other memories - I remember the Queen passing through by car on her way to Llangollen, and we children leaning on the bridge over the railway to wave the Royal train goodbye. I remember the gypsies and their pegs, (that I still have). Walking into Cefn Mawr with my mother to shop and dragging a stick along Monsanto corrugated tin fence all the way there. I remember the fish and chip van coming up Cae Bedw pulled by a horse, and the year that we had to dig a trench through the deep snow to go to school. I remember so much and am pleased and happy that my childhood was so carefree and wonderful. I have only been back once but loved the place so much that I named my new home Cae Bedw.
Mon Oct 29 09:24:47 2007
Gboyega Richard Sole from Virginia, United States
Hello Richard Omotosho, It is good to know that you are alive and well. I've always wondered about you and your family. We grew up together in Ebute Metta, Lagos in Railway compound 1968/1969. I remember your very hearty Dad and your mom who always baked cakes when we came to visit. I don't think you'd remember but I do. I remember Peter and Wole. I am glad to hear that your Mom is doing well but sad to hear that your Dad passed away. How's Peter and Wole? I googled your name and it came up. Anyway best wishes, email me when you can.
Wed Oct 24 08:38:16 2007
Glenys Wright nee James
To John Raymond Griffiths. Thanks for for contributing to my search for my old friend Gwyneth Griffiths who went to S. Africa. I wonder if anyone else has any knowledge of her. Gwyn & I worked together early sixties for Llewelyn Kenrick & co., solicitors in Ruabon. She left around l964 to go around the world, met her husband on board ship and settled in Rand Park, Joburg, we corresponded for years and the last I heard from her she was moving to Cape Town. I also got divorced and moved to Cornwall then Devon. Raymond her brother lived in Plasbennion near Doreen Kyffin. Does anyone else have any information? I would be very grateful. Thanks again John Raymond.
Mon Oct 15 08:12:59 2007
John from Wirral
Hi Acrefair, can anyone remember a Mr Robert Evans who was a teacher or head-teacher in Acrefair around the turn of the century 1900-1930? If you can I would be most grateful.
Thu Oct 11 09:13:33 2007
Leonard Salisbury
Can anybody throw any light on the old remains of a chapel in the Bont? It can be found by going down stream from Bont bridge along the path. It is built in stone but is now a ruin.
Tue Oct 9 10:12:08 2007
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
To Norma King good to see that the BBC team have pointed you in the right direction. If you access the Trevor childhood site you will also see other pictures of the area that I have taken for history. I am also doing another project which I hope the BBC team will publish shortly.
Tue Oct 9 08:31:11 2007
NE Wales Web Team
Norma, you'll find Len's picture here.
Mon Oct 8 12:07:20 2007
Norma
Thank you Len. I would love to see your picture of the Darkie, but how do I access it please? I haven't managed to find it yet.
Mon Oct 8 11:57:07 2007
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
To Norma King I have recently put a picture on the web featuring the Darkie Tunnel which is in your original article about the water cascading down the slope and how you made a dam. Brings back memories to me and other people. I have made a print of this view of the "Darkie" and it is hanging in my lounge.
Wed Oct 3 08:40:19 2007
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
To Linda Hall & Tommy, after I put the posting of King Street I saw the sign just past Tai Gwynedd (the red bricked terrace) and saw the sign for Cefn Mawr on a pole but nowt on the other side for Acrefair. There is a row of houses on Llangollen Road, at the Flexsys turn, named Trefnant Terrace without the "Y". Many years ago there was an article in the Cefn Chronicle written by J. Watkin Ellis about the spelling of the area and should it have been "Terfynant", Trefnant" or as it is today "Trefynant".
Wed Sep 26 09:00:53 2007
Tommy, Ruabon
To Len Salisbury: At the Acrefair end of the row of terraced houses at the "laundry" on the right side of the road is (or used to be ) a sign with Cefn Mawr on one side and Acrefair on the other
Mon Sep 24 09:46:34 2007
Linda Hall nee Jones
Len Salisbury I live in King Street, Acrefair (where the railway crossing used to be). My bungalow is on the opposite side of the road to where St Paul's stood, on the one way road (no entry sign). Our postcode sometimes comes up as Cefn, but we are definitely Acrefair. There is a Cefn sign opposite where the bus station is, just after St Paul's Villas, so I presume that the demaracation line between Cefn and Acrefair is there.
Fri Sep 21 13:39:39 2007
Len Salisbury, Acrefair
If King Street starts at the Crane and finishes at the Eagles (according to the name plate) then Maelor Terrace, WF's, St Paul's etc were/are in Cefn. There is a plate on a house near the Laundry saying Kings Street. So where does the demarcation line come in between Cefn and Acrefair?
Thu Sep 20 08:38:53 2007
John Raymond Griffiths
To Glenys Wright nee James. Sorry I am not the Raymond Griffiths curretly living in Plabennion. This Raymond Griffiths originated from Maelor Avenue, Penycae, before settling in the new Plasbenion after his marriage. My contact with Plasbennion was in the 40s, 50, 60s, 70s & early eighties when my Mam's family still lived in the house my Mam was born in, number 12 Plasbennion. Then in the early 80s these houses were demolihed to make way for what is now the new Plabennion, in my opinion, not a good plan. I was born and lived in Bryn Eitha Penycae and went to Penycae infants & Penycae junior school the same time as Raymond, Gwyneth's brother, we were both the same age. I knew this family very well, their parents, Enoch & Mair, were friends of my parents. Gwyneth was younger than me, so I only knew of her as Raymond's little sister. I remember Gwyneth emigrating to South Africa, but after that I know nothing of her life. Your request brought back memories of my school life with the other Raymond, I used to get into trouble for his mis-doings as he did for my mis-doings. To save confusion between me and Raymond my Mam's family who were living in Stryt Issa, backing on to Raymond's parents rear garden, allways referred to me by my full name of John Raymond, this did not please me, but with respect for my family I allways answered to their call. Good luck with your future search. Sorry I leave you dissapointed. The other Raymond Griffiths.
Mon Sep 17 10:04:52 2007
Chris, Acrefair
To Sheree Kirk, your mam and dad lived at Woodwards Walk, Plas Madoc, before they moved to Cefn. I would say they were there in 1972/3. Your dad liked to tinker with cars as I remember.
Thu Sep 13 08:44:17 2007
Glenys Wright nee James
Just noted a comment from John Raymond Griffiths from Plasbennion. Are you Gwyneth Griffiths' brother? Gwyn moved to Joburg years ago, we always kept in touch. She told me she was moving to Cape Town but I haven't heard from her since. Hope this is so, maybe I could contact her again. She may have lost my address since I moved from Garth 10 yrs ago to Devon.
Mon Sep 10 09:41:43 2007
Sheree Kirk (Kynaston), Cheshire
Does anyone remember Stan and Margaret (Betty) Kynaston of Coronation Street? Sadly they have both died, mum at 50 years and dad at 57 years. Does anyone have any photos of them or us, their children, Sheree, Teresa, Shaun and Sharon.
Mon Sep 3 14:41:26 2007
Norma Miller
I am doing up a family tree on my father's side. His name is Kenith V. Miller. His stepmother's name was Leah Miller. We know that Torchy Miller is part of the family. He was a trainer for horse shows. If anyone has any information we can share what we all have. Look forward to hearing from you, thank you.
Wed Aug 29 08:21:11 2007
Gillian Hughes - Rhosymedre
Please can anyone help me in my search for a photo? My father-in-law Dennis Hughes (who sadly I never got to meet) from Cefn Mawr, attended the Acrefair Council School in around 1928-30. An old neighbour of my parents actually possessed a class photo which included my father-in-law, he kindly let me take the photo to town to get a copy made for my husband...but sadly Boots The Chemist 'lost' the photo and so it was gone forever. It was very hard having to tell the owner of its loss. This was several years ago and the owner of the photo has since passed away. I would very much like to surprise my husband by getting a copy of his father's class photo. If anyone knows of such a photo I would be forever in your debt if I could have a copy of it. My father-in-law Dennis Hughes lived at Cross Keys Terrace at Cefn Mawr with his parents Freddie & Polly Hughes. Dennis worked as a projectionist for a time at the George Edwards Hall. If anyone remembers him I am sure you'll agree that he was a right character, my husband is always telling me tales of his father. If anyone can help me in my search then please contact me here. Many thanks.
Fri Aug 3 07:45:59 2007
Mairina Wilson from Ilkley, West Yorkshire
I am tracing my family history. My father - William Thomas - was born and brought up in Cefn. He was born in 1893 and lived at The Railway Pub with his grandfather. He used Bebbington or Mansfield as his second name! He had cousins called Olive and Ethel Cuffin. Can anyone give me any information?
Thu Jul 26 08:35:22 2007
David Hart. Acrefair/Wrexham
For Alan Phillips, Basingstoke. Yes, Alan, the Glyn Jones on photo 14 was related to John Jones the barber in Acrefair. I am not sure of the relationship, but think Glyn was a son of John, but was not a barber by trade. The family, along with many other families in Wales, (and Cefn/Acrefair in particular), had nicknames, and Barber was one of them. I will make enquiries about the relationship and let you know. For your info. Glyn is the second from the left in the extreme back row. John Jones was known by all and sundry as "Jack the Barber", and had a small shop by the Laundry in Acrefair. His living quarters were above the shop. As a small boy, I would be waiting to have my hair cut, and was fascinated watching the "old men" having a shave. His wife would do the lathering up of the bristles, and he would perform with a cut throat razor. I can't remember seeing any blood! One thing I remember well, is the fact that he would sometimes have a "Woodbine" in his mouth whilst he was working, and the ash would be drooping on the end. I would wait to see whether it would drop on the floor, or the customer's head. He also acted as a "runner" for the local bookie, and you would see him looking at the clock, and dashing off to place the bets before the race, sometimes leaving Mrs Jones to finish the shaving! This was almost 65 years ago but they are still fond memories.
Wed Jul 18 16:56:55 2007
Alan Phillips, Basingstoke, Hants
In photograph number 14 of Davis Hart's. I am interested as I may have a relative! My father's mother Mary Elizabeth Jones had a brother John, who ran the barbers in Acrefair, David in his photo explanation mentions a Glyn Jones, who was also a barber. Any relation?
Wed Jul 18 08:45:13 2007
John Raymond Griffiths
To Len Salisbury. Hi Len. I have been asking around as to your origins. My sister in law, June Griffiths nee Jones, used to live in Crown Cottage, High Street, Cefn Mawr.She remembers you and your family well and asks to be remembered to you. Her late husband, Albert, was my eldest brother originally from Penycae. I believe you now live out of the area but thanks to you and your memories.
Thu Jul 5 07:58:06 2007
Lesley Thornton nee Phillips, Lincolnshire
My father, William Henry Phillips, passed away 24 January 2006. His father was the choirmaster at one time I believe, his children, Carrie, Gladys, Bertha, Lenoard, Harry & Gwen. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Wed Jul 4 15:42:41 2007
Dave, Garth
Passing through the village yesterday I see another landmark which holds many memories for my generation being demolished - St Paul's Church, along with its youth club and Sunday school, are now stored in my memory along with other places from my childhood that have disappeared.
Mon Jul 2 09:04:56 2007
Yvonne Pryce from Acrefair.
Would anyone who used to attend St John's Church Rhosymedre like to comment on the reordering which is in the consultation stages at the moment. It is on this site on the Cefn Mawr bit and I am sure that comments are really important to the future of that wonderful building.
Thu Jun 28 14:47:31 2007
John Raymond Griffiths
To Len Salisbury Acrefair. Re your comment on the spelling of Plas Bennion. I appear to have made the error of spelling this village name with only one 'n' and as one word. On checking with the book 'Remembering Ruabon'. I find that the name is spelt with two 'ns' and is written as two separate words as above. Thanks for pointing out my error. Having spent a large part of my youth visiting my Mam's family and school friends in this village I should have known better.
Fri Jun 22 07:27:16 2007
Len Salisbury Acrefair
I have just been looking at the archived input and noticed that a couple of entries spell Plasbennion with one "n". There is a plate as you enter the village/hamlet (although it may not be correct by the council) with two "n"s. Same for Rhos although things are changing with two "n"s.
Thu Jun 21 08:34:16 2007
Marlen Jones Handl
Jane Owens, I cannot get your email. Thank you David Hart and Don Jones (Delph) for your help too.
Mon Jun 11 10:30:05 2007
David Hart. Acrefair/Cefn
MARLENE (JONES) HANDL. It's good to see that my neighbour, Jane Owens, has posted a reply to your query. I was speaking to your cousin, Eric Brimfield, on Monday morning and told him of your request for information. He was surprised and pleased to hear about it, especially when I said I would let you know that that he remembered you. Perhaps Megan will fill you in with any missing info. Regards.
Tue Jun 5 08:24:32 2007
Ian Davies Cefn Mawr
Hi Phil, Cape Town.Nicky is a good friend of mine, he was a good player when he was young but it never came to anything. He still lives in the Cefn and only watches footy nowadays.
Mon Jun 4 14:57:36 2007
Jane Owens, Acrefair
Marlene (Jones) Handl: Hi, I'm Megan's daughter-in-law. If you would like to email me I could give you an address for you to contact Meg. I am sure she would love to hear from you.
Mon Jun 4 08:26:11 2007
Tracy, Cefn
Phill, Cape Town. I think the Nicky you mean lives down the road from me in Cefn Mawr.
Thu May 31 08:27:30 2007
Phil, Cape Town, S. Africa
Can anybody remember a football player called Nicky Guinness. I remember playing for Acrefair in the late 70's when he played for Cefn school and he was some player. He was the only player I've ever seen who could dribble past an entire team, surely he became a professional. Can anyone help?
Wed May 30 15:39:18 2007
Don Jones (Delph) Gainsborough
Marlene Jones. I remember the Brimfield family very well. Megan did marry Derek Owen and we were very good friends until my late wife and I moved here. They still live in the Cefn. I don't know the address but could probably find out. They had a tragedy a few years ago when their daughter, who was a good friend of my daughter, was killed in a car accident. She was probably in her twenties. Best wishes
Wed May 30 08:31:53 2007
Marlene (Jones) Handl
I would love to hear from anyone who remembers my family.My ancestors lived at Tower Hill Acrefair from 1879.I am looking for my grandmother Mary Humphreys who married John Jones and had five children
Lizzie Jones --Gibbs
Maud Jones --Lambto
Winifred jones --Brimfied
Oswald Jones -- who died age 5yrs -- burnt.
Georgina Jones My lovely mother who died 2003 in New Zealand at my home in Auckland NZ
My mother married Herbert Jones who lived in Ruabon and went to Ruabon GS.
They moved to Blackpool then Chester.
Where are my cousins?
I do remember Eric, Carole, Megan, Ina, Gilbert Brimfield. I think Megan married Derek Owens. I have tried to seach online with no luck so hopefully someone on this site may help me. I promised my mother I would not look up our ancestors until after her death. My mother was very secretive about her passed, she told me at age 21yrs her mother was a gypsy. Hope to hear from someone.
Tue May 29 10:20:21 2007
Gareth Davies, ex-Acrefair
Thanks Susan for identifying the missing choir boy. Jill Bailey (JT Bailey's daughter - he was always known as "Bailey") was the first member of the congregation to be married in St Paul's Church. Susan: I shall be in SE France (Ariege).
Wed May 2 10:16:19 2007
Diane Williams nee Powell
Hi Yvonne, yes I remember you and your sister, also your mother and grandad. As I remember, your house was the first to have a TV. I vaguely remember watching the coronation on it in black and white. We had a street party to celebrate with us children dressing up. My mother sends her best wishes.
Wed May 2 08:15:43 2007
Susan Gordon Jones (Whitehead) Cefn Mawr SW France
I was really interested to see Gareth Davies' photograph of St Paul's Church choir and recognise so many faces. I too sang in that choir at one time but did not overlap with Gareth though I remember him well from Sunday School, school and Scouts/Guides. I think the choirboy in the front row who is not named is Philip Hughes, the son of Bill Hughes in the back row.
Mon Apr 30 08:32:38 2007
Yvonne Pryce
To Diane Powell. I lived in 9 Brickfield Terrace until I was 4 years old and remember you and your brother. However I moved to Port Talbot in 1970 and lived there for a few years and was pleased that your mother and father lived in Sandfields. Your mother worked in a shoe shop and was a great comfort to know there was an old neighbour just down the road from where I worked. Please thank her for being an answer to my homesickness, she also put my grandfather Mr Frank Thomas up for a night when he came on a surprise visit to me and missed the day trip bus home.
Mon Apr 30 08:05:47 2007
Diane Williams nee Powell
I lived in Brickfield Terrace, Acrefair, from approx 1948 until 1957. I went to Acrefair Juniors then on to Ruabon Grammar. I would like to hear from Monica Parks, Joy Evans, Teresa Anderson, Eirwen Davies and Marlene Jones who became a nurse in Alder Hey Hospital, Liverpool. She had an older brother, David, two sisters Carol and Hazel, and a younger brother, Phillip. I have also read with interest Diane Powell's comments. I was the older Diane Powell in the same school. My mother and father are Sue and Jeff Powell. We still have relatives living in Acrefair and Rhosymedre. Would love to hear from anyone who remembers me and my younger brother, Ramsey.
Wed Apr 25 08:14:00 2007
Gareth Davies
Reference St Paul's Church, Acrefair: The one really big occasion that has stuck in my memory was the evening the church was consecrated by The Rt Rev'd Dr David Barlett, Bishop of St Asaph. I'm sure it was a Saturday. Considerable alternations had been carried out and while this work was being underaken services were held in the church Institute and I have a picture taken of the full choir and officials. Until St Paul's was consecrated it was regarded as a Mission Church and there were no weddings for us choirboys to get some extra money. I remember singing at a wedding once in St John's Church, Rhosymedre - they were short of boys as it was holiday time - and receiving the magnificent sum of 2/6d for my efforts. It was a small fortune soon spent on bubble gum cards (a complete set now worth hundreds of pounds) and pop at Albiston's. On one occasion Lady Walford Davies, widow of the composed Sir Walford Davies attended Evensong as guest of the Vicar then Rev'd, later Canon David Rowlands. I don't remember Sir Miles Thomas's mother attending the Church. Although Harry (HLT) Smith used to tell me how he would walk her to church and back home again.
Susan Gordon Jones (Whitehead) makes reference to the Youth Club that was held in the Institute and I have vague memories of Ken Davies (Ralph Davies's dad) running it. I do remember the story of the curate the Rev'd Tom Stillings making the tea with one spoonful per person (40) and one for the pot. It was proper tea, black and strong! He was a great guy and used to ride off on my motorbike when he came to visit my mother. Very sadly he took his own life some years ago. I'm sure that many others have memories of St Paul's of Gladys and Kit Samuels (I don't remember Ginny), Len and Clar Thetford, Bailey, George Watkin etc.
Here's a photograph taken by my father of the choir after the consecration service in the Church Institute.
Thu Apr 19 10:39:57 2007
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I was born in Bowers Road in 1938. I attended Acrefair Infants and Junior Schools and have many very vivid memories of all that - walking 'over the bank' and across the railway line at the age of three to school and many, many hours playing on the 'bank', in the cave and on the Broken Bridge. My friends and I used to play 'house' on the huge clinkers which had been deposited there and around the derelict pit. In my earliest years, this pit was roughly fenced off and everyone used to tip rubbish down it. It seemed bottomless. I can remember the sounds of items falling never endingly down. I was always told to hurry past it on my way to school. At some point, the sides fell in, but I assume there was a huge cavity still beneath. .
