your comments
Jackie Williams formerly Sunnyside Close, Bagillt
I left Bagillt in 1991 and now have 3 kids: Gareth, Thomas and Lydia Williams ages 20, 16 and 15. My parents were Sylvia and Robert Williams. Great to find this site. My oldest boy is doing his OE next year and will be visiting Bagillt, keep an eye out for him. Anybody know the wherabouts of my younger brother Terry Williams? Have lost all contact with him and would love to touch base again.
Mon Nov 24 10:37:13 2008
Lee Marvin Williams
Hi Janet. I'm just trying to picture Newlyn, Bryntirion Rd. I know David Hughes. As it happens he lived just 3 doors away from me when I was growing up. You'd see a massive difference in Bryntirion now. Even when I was a kid we used to play in the houses as they were being built. It's so built up now. The Wern wouldn't have changed much from when you knew it. From what I hear they're building houses all along the old High St from the Blossoms to where the old picture house used to be by the Feathers pub.
Thu Nov 20 08:20:05 2008
Janet (nee Commins), Perth, Australia
Hi Lee, sorry it's taken so long to reply, just been going through some old paperwork and it was actually 42 years since we left Bagillt. I lived at Newlyn, Bryntirion Road. I often wonder if the house is still there. I can remember some names of friends I had back then: Susan and Sandra Thomas and Jeanette Hogarth. My brother had a friend named David Hughes, I imagine he would be around 55 years now. Our neighbour I can remember just calling her aunty Grace. My father and brother passed away quite a few years ago, but my mother was only 18 months ago. I wish I had come across this site before as I am sure some of the names mentioned she would know.
Fri Oct 31 10:40:05 2008
Lee Marvin Williams
Hello Derek. I was brought up on the Wern mate. I live in Christchurch NZ and have been for the past 7 years. If you're ever in Nelson (been there) and come to Christchurch just leave a message on this site and I'll have the kettle on before you turn up. There'll be a welcome in Rolleston for you and the family. I remember Bob Salsbury's well. Get in touch.
Thu Oct 23 09:48:25 2008
Derek Hughes from Bagillt
Some familiar names appear on this site! I was born in Gadlys Lane opposite Bob Salisbury's farm in 1943. My grandparents lived on the main road opposite the Church. My brother is in Bangor, and my sister is in Deeside. My wife Sandra and 3 children emigrated to Oz in 1969 and now share our time between Perth and Nelson in NZ.
Thu Oct 16 10:57:52 2008
Sandra McCluskey
Hi Molly, thank you very much for your comment. I think I remember you. I remember playing on the swings with a few girls from Nant y Glyn. Yes, I have a sister, Paula, she's married, has children and grandchildren and they're all living in Wrexham. I've been living in Italy for almost 40 years now. I like it here - weather, food and the people are more like it was in Bagillt, friendly, nosey, not like the big towns in England when you don't know even your next door neibougher. How's Rhyl these days, Pulled down the Marine lake fairground haven't they? I used to love going out for a days trip to Rhyl ending up at the fair with a bag of doughnuts and rock. Once again, thanks for your comment.
Mon Sep 22 08:55:53 2008
Molly Skeffington Rhyl (formerly Davies)
Hi Sandra from Milan, I remember you as a little girl when we both played with Marina Davies who lived next door to your Nana in Hope Cottages. You used to come from Wrexham to visit. Did you also have a little sister? I remember your mum Norah and your uncle Goronwy. I lived in Nant y Glyn, moved to Rhyl 45 years ago and though it felt I was going a long way from home at the time, it's not as far as you have travelled!
Fri Sep 12 08:23:34 2008
Nigel
I miss all the people from Bagillt that I used to hang round with. I would love to hear from people that lived in Pen y Glyn or Nant y Glyn.
Thu Sep 11 09:03:41 2008
Sandra McCluskey from Milan Italy
Hello, what a surprise I got when I opened the Bagillt old photos page, the first page was the TOL Bagillt football club with my uncle Gron who was there smiling out at me. What a lovely surprise! Gron was very proud to be the goalkeeper and would have loved to play professional. It's the only photo I have of him as a young lad, then moving on through the pages I found him again in the darts club. I remember that he and my Taida used to love going out in the evenings to the Stag and have their pint and a game of darts. Does anyone remember my Taida (grandfather) Bill Griffths or my Nana Mary Griffths who was widow of Joseph Hughes who died when a shaft in the collery collasped, and my mum Nora Hughes, they lived just off the Pentre in the last of the terrace houses "Hope cottages" (no 19) next door to Arthur Baxter, and Philis Parry, just on the corner before going up the road to Pen y Glynne and Nant y Glynne? I used to spend all my summers at nana's. I absolutely loved it in Bagillt, going for walks up Sandy Lane or going down to the Cob. Unfortunately all my family are dead, my mum died 3 years ago in Wrexham. I managed to get to Wrexham just in time to see her before she passed away. Thanks for your memorial photos. Keep up showing all your old photos. P.S. Does anyone know anything about the artist D. Davies or the Davis family? He was my nana's brother-in-law. I remember seeing quite a few of his paintings in the empty bedroom and nana left me the only one she kept for herself. Once again, thank you.
Mon Sep 8 08:58:07 2008
Lee Marvin Williams
Hello Sue. Neil lives in Amsterdam and had been there for nearly 30 years. Luther is in Corwen near Bala. Where did you live in Bagillt? We were all brought up on the Wern which was great when we were kids. Where are you in Aussie and what was your second name? I'll get around to emailing Neil and tell him of this website. Hello to anyone from Bagillt.
Fri Aug 1 09:10:16 2008
Lee Marvin Williams
Hello Craig, the last time I saw you you were home from working down in Kent. It's good to hear from you. Say hello to Darren Caddock and Gin for us. Great to hear from the old country now and again.
Wed Jul 23 09:06:36 2008
Sue, Australia
Message for Lee Marvin Williams. Like your brother Neil, I too am 52 and attended Merllyn primary school around 1964/5. I went back to Bagillt on holiday last year and took a few photos of the school. I will try and get them posted on here so you can show your children. Like you, I now live 'Down Under' - far warmer! But Bagillt will always have a dear place in my heart.
Mon Jul 21 10:04:46 2008
Craig Williams
Hi, Lee Marvin - just stumbled upon this site. All is well in the Pentre, mate. Was out with Gin and Caddock earlier on. Keep in touch.
Wed Jul 9 15:14:11 2008
Lee Marvin Williams, ex Bagillt now NZ
To Janette Commins. Where did you come from in Bagillt? If you left when you were eight and been in Perth for 45 years you'd be 53 now. My brothers Neil and Luther Williams would have been a year or so below you in the Merllyn School. Luther is now 53 or so and Neil 52. Do you remember them at all? You may have been too young to remember at the time but I'll ask my brothers back in Wales if they remember you. My eldest girl Natalie was only 9 when we left six and a half years ago. All my three girls are doing great and I have never regretted moving to the other side of the world.I love Bagillt and always will but opportunities here made me leave. Hope you find what you're looking for. Tell me where you lived, as Bagillt is still fresh in my mind's eye.
Mon Jun 2 09:38:11 2008
Janet (nee Commins) Perth, Australia
I lived in Bagillt up until the age of 8 yrs until my parents Tom and Esme Commins and my brother Philip emigrated to Australia. My mum was originally from Bagillt, and my dad was from Flint. My mother's parents were named Edward and Eva Bates. Love to here from anyone who remembers our family as it is 45 years since we left.
Tue May 27 09:03:33 2008
Lee Marvin Williams, ex Bagillt, now NZ
To Jane Williams of Old London Rd. The Old London Rd from what I remember is an old Roman Rd that went the length of the north Wales coast and led to London. Only as far back as 20 years or so ago it was still cobbled. I'm not sure if they would have been original cobbles laid by the Romans. If you go to the other side of the Wern you'll find another part of it on the walk between the Wern and Pen-y-Glyn. This part was still cobbled 6 years ago and I think still is. The road adjacent to where you are in The Old Engine is Roman's Way in Bryntirion. The history that very road would have seen over the past 2 thousand years would be amazing. Your house is built on a Roman treasure. If only it could talk!
Wed Apr 2 11:11:14 2008
Jane Williams, Bagillt
Hello, just to let everyone know that the Blossoms Pub which changed to the Red Dragon is now back to being called the Blossoms Pub. It's a great local landmark.I live at The Old Engine, Off Old London Road, Bagillt, by Tyddyn Messham. Does anyone have information about this location?
Tue Mar 25 10:24:20 2008
Darby, ex boot, now Rhyl
Is Sharky still fishing and how's Swill, Reggy, Tank, Shawn, Wayne and Paul Pritch, Ped Grundie? I see Tud now and again. You would have thought one of the local lads would have done up Reggie's old club by now though, go on Sarge, get yer trowel working.
Wed Mar 19 09:56:22 2008
Anon
Someone should start a Bagillt football team again! There would be loads of young lads wanting to play.
Mon Mar 17 10:23:50 2008
Bagillt boy for life
I am a young lad of Bagillt and it is so interesting reading all about this. I didn't know Bagillt was so interesting and some of the people you are mentioning I know - George and Eileen Williams are my best friend's grandparents and Tracey and Alan James are my mum and dad's friends. It is amazing what you find out isn't it.
Thu Mar 13 09:07:28 2008
Lee Marvin Williams, ex Bagillt. NZ
Hello to Gwyn James and Ian Pritchard. Just trying to place Andy Williams. Gwyn say hello to Tracey and Alan for us will you?
Wed Mar 5 09:32:50 2008
Gwyn James
Hi Andy. It's Gwyn James, dunno if you remember me. It's great to hear from you.
Mon Mar 3 09:06:23 2008
Ian Pritchard, Bagillt
Hi Andy, so you have settled in Spain. It has been a long time since we last met mate. I guess it must be about 15 years. I often browse this web page, as soon as I read your comments I knew it was you. I am still living in Bagillt as are most of the lads. When you come over on your next visit we will have to meet up for old times' sake. Keep in touch mate. Best wishes to you and your family.
Fri Feb 29 15:17:44 2008
Andy Williams from Palma
I left Bagillt when my parents decided to move to Flint. Even though it's over thirty years since I have lived on the Wern it is and always will be where I am from and where I had such a cracking time growing up.
Mon Feb 25 11:39:43 2008
Norman Shepherd, Prestatyn
Just like to see if anyone remembers me or any of my family? We lived in the old Red Lion garage opposite the Royal Oak. Went to the boot school until 1964 when we moved to Prestatyn. Sisters' names Jacquline and Sandra.
Wed Feb 20 09:33:44 2008
Lee Marvin Williams, ex Bagillt. New Zealand
Is it possible for anyone in Bagillt to find some old photos of the Merllyn School and put them on this website? I was in the Merllyn in the early seventies. I'm 41 years old just turned and would love to see some old photos and show my kids. Hello to any school mates: Vaughan Williams, Jane Sewell, John Jones, Darren Caddock, Paul Williams, Little Neil Williams, Andy Jones, Helen Edwards, Jane Hokenhul, Vicky Armstrong, Darren Hughes, Simon Evans, Colin Jones, Jane Pearce, Gareth Young and anyone else who was in school with me.
Mon Feb 18 10:25:32 2008
TOL, Bagillt
Bagillt football team. Additional information as promised. Top Row, third from left John Pritchard, Jackie Davies and not Hugh as stated. Far right, Robert Pritchard. Front row, second from left, Willy Platt, then Ron Lewis, extreme right Tecwyn Jones.
Wed Jan 30 11:46:33 2008
TOL Bagillt
Re Bagillt Football Team. Top Row L-R: Glyn Pritchard, Vic Foulkes, ? Pritchard, George Williams, Gronway Griffiths, Hugh Davies,Frank Thomas, Les Evans. Front Row L-R: Trevor Hughes, ? , ? , Cecil Barber, ? . I remember faces but not the names of those under query but will endeavour to find out.
Mon Jan 28 08:03:58 2008
Lee Marvin Williams, Christchurch NZ
The old Bagillt reserves photo. My dad, George Williams, is fourth from the back left. He had hair in those days and jet black it was too. Back left is Glyn Pritchard. Back second from right is (I think) my late uncle Tom Owens who lived at the top of Pen-y-Glyn where the park is now. Come on people name them all for nostalgia's sake.
Thu Jan 24 10:20:32 2008
Steph
David Conway did live in Foel Gron and had a small holding (wouldn't have called him a farmer) but they grew fruit and veg.
Tue Jan 22 15:16:38 2008
Lee Marvin. Christchurch NZ
Hi Luther. It's been a while since I've heard from you. I'll give you a bell when I can find your number. So how's your mum and Darren? We'll have to catch up on what's happening in old Bagillt. I'm going to give nana a ring over the weekend and I'll get your number. It's all good here in NZ. We were going to go to Oz but have decided to put the blocks on that for now. I'll get in touch somehow. Catch y' later. Lee.
Thu Dec 20 08:36:11 2007
Luther Williams
Message to Lee Marvin: Alright Unc, been trying to get hold of you for ages, email and phone number that nanna give us have been failing. I'll keep my eye on this site, get in touch mate.
Mon Dec 17 08:12:19 2007
Lee Marvin Williams. Christchurch.NZ
Tony Jones, Yes mate it's been a few years ago since I last saw you. I've been here in NZ now for 6 years in February. Are you still with that girl I last saw you with in (I think) the Bagillt Arms? Funny enough I had an email from Ginnhead today after 6 years. My email address is with the web team. It'd be nice to have a chat and catch up. Look forward to your email. Lee.
Mon Dec 10 08:53:28 2007
Tony Jones, Mynydd Isa
I would just like to say hello to Lee Marvin Williams, I didn't realise you had emigrated. Last time I saw you was when you worked with me driving in the steelworks. How can I get in touch with you?
Reference the photograph of the pub darts team; Llewelyn Jones was my great uncle. He owned the fruit and veg shop in the High Street opposite The Stag car park.
Fri Dec 7 10:07:53 2007
TOL, Bagillt
Harp House ref BW USA, I have made further enquiries regarding Harp House and can confirm that Harp House was indeed a pub presumably referred to as an inn. One person I spoke to at our History Club meeting last evening told me that her father, Jimmy Taylor, was born there in 1906 and her grandfather 'owned' the pub. The only photo at the moment is as previously stated, this 'part' shot is on our home page history site www.bagillt-history.org.uk. If however I am able to secure a better photo I will place it on this page.
Fri Dec 7 09:52:24 2007
Dennis Mason
To Steve Bagshaw, Larry Hamilton is my cousin. What a great site, so many names I recognise. I feel the need to return to Wales. My mam is "off Flint" Lena (Hamilton) Mason. Larry's brother Brian is living Bagillt...nigh. I feel so far away in California.
Wed Dec 5 07:41:16 2007
Bill Williams, Basking Ridge, NJ, USA
I note several references to the Harp House as mentioned in TOL, Bagillt Jul 23 11:11:45 2007.
Could this be the same place that may have been called the Harp Inn when my father, Howell Williams, was born on Aug 15 1894. I am searching for any photos or stories of the Harp Inn in Bagillt.
Fri Nov 30 09:06:49 2007
John William Evans
Will Yvonne Maloney email as my father was the boot and shoe repairer in Harphouse?
Mon Nov 5 08:46:11 2007
Lee Marvin Christchurch NZ
Dean. Good to hear back from you. I remembered your sister's name after I sent the last e-mail. So Gary Jones has got the Blossoms. I thought that place closed a while ago. Do you see Leighton Jones who lives near you? He was working with me for a while before I left for NZ. I think he's scaffolding now. Great lad is Leighton! I hear they're going to build houses on Eddie Hughes's field right near you. I can't think how they'd get access as all the supplying roads would be bottle necked. Do you remember when all where you live (The vicarage) was all fields? I remember Ginhead, Codge, Little Neil, Paul Williams, John Jones and me and loads of Wern kids used to play in the new houses when we were little kids. The amount of damage we caused wasn't funny. Do your mam and dad still live in Romans Way? I've heard they've built houses down the back of there now. I expect the cobblestones at the back of your parents' house have been dug up in the process. Does Norman Davis still live next to your parents? Keep in touch. Good to hear from you Dean and take care. Lee
Mon Nov 5 08:18:10 2007
Dean Blackwell, Bagillt
Hi Lee, I'm actually living opposite Wern farm on Vicarage Road I typed Wern Park by mistake, I'm right next to Wern Avenue. I do still see gorgeous Graham around his brother Gary is now the licencee of the Blossoms. Don't see Mark Jones (Codge) much I think he lives just outside Holywell His sister lives a few doors down from me though. My eldest sister is Andrea and yes I think she was in your sister's year in the Merllyn. We all went to the Dicky Gwyn High. Look after yourself.
Fri Nov 2 14:36:45 2007
Lee Marvin. Christchurch NZ
Dean Blackwell. Good to hear you're doing good. So you ended up on the Wern or is it Wern Avenue? Do you see much of Gorgeous Graham or Codge nowadays? What are they up to now? I haven't heard from them in years. So old Bagillt is changing fast. From what I've been told there are lots of eastern Europeans about Bagillt. Do you see much of Luther and Darren Williams? If you do then tell them to get on the e-mail and have a chat. Same goes for Gorgeous. I haven't seen your sister Mandy since I was a very young teenager. Didn't she go to the Richard Gwyn school? If so then that's where we lost touch. Bloody shame isn't it? You know I've completely forgotten your older sister's name. I remember she'd be a couple of years older than me and would have been in my sister Tracey's year through school. Good health Dean. Lee.
Tue Oct 9 10:57:18 2007
TOL Bagillt
Ref: Mr Vic Tyler-Jones Chester,
Further to my response of 21st regarding your enquiry Merllyn Lead works, I regret to say my initial research seems to suggest that little information is recorded about the Merllyn Leadworks apart from the fact that it is thought it was disused by 1884. However, should any further information become available in the future I will inform you via this page.
Mon Sep 24 09:32:44 2007
TOL Bagillt
Ref to enquiry from Mr Vic Tyler-Jones Chester.As a member of the Bagillt History Club I have access to hundreds of photographs of Bagillt 'through the ages'.There were two such works at Bagillt known colloqually as the LEADWORKS. There are a number of photographs of at least one of these works which was located at the Boot-End of the village. With the assisstance of our Chairman there maybe photographs of the Merllyn works and will let you know the outcome of our search when completed. In addition to this, I also hold a copy of the map of Bagillt in the ninteenth century which clearly shows the outline of the buildings at that time. As you can well imagine these works no longer exist, the 'Merllyn' works was finally demolished of its remaining buildings some two to three years ago to make way for a housing estate which will be known as Church View. For reasons unknown to me building work appears to have been put on hold. If we are able to find any photographs I will, via this page, arrange for you to receive them, perhaps by leaving them at the Chester Heritage Centre for you to collect.
Fri Sep 21 13:40:59 2007
Vic Tyler-Jones, Chester
My great-great grandfather John Jones lived at Bryn Merllyn in 1851. He was a smelter presumably at the lead works on the same hill. Has anyone any information or photographs of the works or of this area please?
Mon Sep 17 09:04:45 2007
Dean Blackwell
Hi Lee, both sisters okay, Mandy was asking about you, she lives in Flint. It's mad to think I can communicate to you on the other side of the world. Bagillt is changing fast, houses going up everywhere. I'm back there now with my wife (from Holywell). I live opposite the field next to Wern Park, although I'm sure they will build there soon. If I'm anywhere near Perth in Oz I'll look you up, look after yourself.
Wed Sep 5 15:05:10 2007
Lee Marvin. Christchurch NZ
Hi Dean. Haven't seen you in years mate. I was never in Runcorn though! I've been past it a few times in the fast lane to Liverpool but never lived there. Great to hear from you. We've been here for the past five and a half years now. We are hopefully going to Perth before the end of the year to live. Yes I have been getting about a bit. My eldest girl was 15 years old yesterday (3rd). It's great to hear from voices from the past. Last time I heard you were living with a girl in Holywell. How are your two sisters anyway? I haven't seen them for 20 years or so. Take good care of yourself. Remember, if you're in Perth WA then give us a bell.
Tue Sep 4 09:27:49 2007
Dean Blackwell from Bagillt
Hi Lee Marvin Williams, I was out with Ian Pritchard last Saturday night and he mentioned you had been in touch. How are you? Last I knew you were in Runcorn so how did you end up in New Zealand? Your dad's cousins, Tony & Gerald Blackwell, are asking after you. Keep well and don't forget all us back in Bagillt.
Mon Sep 3 10:17:04 2007
Lee Marvin Williams, Christchurch, NZ
Hello to anyone who knows me. Not many people have written in the past few weeks. Is anyone in contact with Luther Williams or his brother Darren? If so then tell them to get in touch with their uncle Lee in NZ. Does anyone else know me and wants to have a chat? Thanks little Neil for getting in touch. It was and still is great to be in touch with old friends. Anyone from Flint High school who knew me in the late seventies early eighties? Come on people let's talk!
Fri Aug 31 08:24:40 2007
William Russell Jones
Yes Stephanie, and as they say "blood's thicker than water"!I have your grandparents on my tree, although I only have two children, Geoffrey G and Robert Gladstone. My grandmother was John William's youngest sister Sarah Mariah born c1891 in Hanley. She married a Joseph Durber at Bagillt in 1913. However my mother, Elsie Conway, born in 1912 in Bagillt, couldn't wait for their marriage!
Thu Aug 16 10:10:26 2007
Steph Louise Jones (19)
To William Russell Jones, Cefn Mawr: I've got the family tree in front of me and my great great grandparents were indeed David and Eleanor Conway. Would you be able to tell me the name of your grandparents (who would be my great great uncle and aunt!). My great grandfather was called John William, born 1874, and one of eight. He married Mary Kent Beadmore and they had four children. Would be great to hear from you.
Tue Aug 14 13:31:41 2007
TOL, Bagillt
Ref to Yvonne Maloney, Harp House. Liverpool.At the moment, the only picture of Harp House is on our History Club main page, if you go to www.bagillt-history.org.uk you will see just part of the house next to the Chapel to the right of the picture, Florrie Hughes' shop as you will no doubt remember is where the van on the picture is situated. I will source our History Club photographs to see if there is a 'full' picture of the property and respond accordingly. T.O.L
Mon Jul 23 11:11:45 2007
TOL Bagillt
Hi Gail, My first response to you must still be in the system, it just confirmed that I knew you father. Since that date however I have spoken to a couple of people from Bagillt who also knew your father, I have also established that they remember his father, John, whom I am told was a Commisionaire at Courtaulds, Greenfield. If I find out any more I will respond via this site. Regards Terah.
Fri Jul 20 09:34:40 2007
Yvonne Maloney, Liverpool
My sister, Linda, lived at Harp House near Florrie's shop. I have many happy memories as a child staying there. Does anyone remember or have any photos of Harp House?
Wed Jul 18 08:37:50 2007
TOL Bagillt
Hi Gail, Sorry about the delay in my responding to your query of July 6th. I do remember your father Don but I am unable to give you any information of his father John.As there are still quite a few members from Bagillt who attend our History Club I will mention this at our next meeting. Regards Terah
Tue Jul 17 14:17:07 2007
Neil Williams
Hi Lee, Just been told via phone call from my mum, Kay via cousin Kelly that you are looking for me! Yes, I'm still in Folkestone and would be interested in getting in touch with all the old gang.
Mon Jul 16 09:34:55 2007
Gail Sutton, Bagillt
Hi Lee, hope you're well. I'm fine, living in Flint now - next door to Mill Tavern. It used to be the post office when we were in school. The last time I saw you was when you came to see my son - that was 14yrs ago. Where does the time go? What you doing down under? Never thought you would leave Bagillt. Keep in touch, take care of yourself.
Fri Jul 13 09:11:48 2007
Lee Marvin from Christchurch NZ.
Mathew Robertson. I remember the big swing at the back of Alwen Drive. It was at the top of the real steep bank tied to an oak tree. We used to swing out from nothing to about 30 feet at full swing. We were right over the trees at the bottom of of the slope near the stream. It was dangerous but great fun. If it's the one I remember didn't someone hang a big blue petrol tin high up in the trees below so we could swing out and kick it? The Blue Bell woods were a great adventure for the Wern and Bryntirion kids. There were a few swings in those woods as I recall. We used to camp out there in the summer time amongst the ferns. My hayfever played havoc with me, but I wouldn't swap it for the world. Great great memories.
Mon Jul 9 09:57:42 2007
Lee Marvin from Christchurch NZ.
Hello Gail Sutton. How's things Gail? Where are you living now? Hope all is well with you and the family. Take care of yourself. Lee Marvin Williams, Down Under.
Mon Jul 9 09:38:40 2007
Gail Sutton from Bagillt
A question to Terah Oldfield-Lloyd
Do you remember my father, Richard (Don) Sutton who came from Pen-y-Glyn who then moved to Bryn Dyrys when I was about 1 yr old? And anything about his father, John Wright Sutton? Anything would be gratefully received. Thank you.
Fri Jul 6 09:02:24 2007
Lee Marvin from Christchurch NZ.
Mathew Robertson. You know mate I'm trying to picture you but it was a while ago. Yes, I remember the old MZ I had. Myself and Vaughan Williams got it for nothing from my brother's ex girlfriend. Vaughan, the way he is, had it going in just two days. We had great fun on that bike. Vaughan was a genius when it came to taking things apart and putting them together again. I've been in NZ for five and a half years now and may be on our way to Oz next. The bonfire days were special times. Rob Nolan always had a big bonfire at the back of his house and we guarded it fiercely with pellet guns. John Jones and Darren Caddock and the rest of the gang would come in the dead of night to light the bonfire with pre-made petrol bombs. What fantastic times they were! The kids today don't know what they missed out on. You'll have to enlighten me a little bit on who you knocked about with so I can picture you; sorry mate! There are a lot of us spread around the world now and the likelihood is we'll never get together again, quite sad when you think about it. I want to get in touch with little Neil Williams who now lives in the Folkestone area of Kent. Could you ask around for me and let me know via this e-mail system. Thanks Mathew. Lee Marvin Williams, of the Wern, Bagillt.
Thu Jul 5 07:54:10 2007
Matthew Robertson
Hi there. There are so many old names on here I know it's amazing to see who has actually written in. Does anyone remember the big swing in the woods at the back of Alwen Drive? We used to play there as kids and we used to have a massive bonfire up the back. There was always a bonfire on the Wern and up Bryintirion, we used to sit guarding ours. I remember one night somebody put a light to it and we were running to and from the houses with buckets of water but well it went up. My mam is Pat Wheeler who used to work in the Feathers Inn and also the ba and the stag. My father, deceased now, was Ian Robertson from Nant y Glyn. Nice to see you all writing in, hello to you Mr Pritchard and Glyn we used to have a laugh in the ba many years ago and Lee what you doing in New Zealand? I still remember that old bike you had was it a cz or something? Them were the days eh!
Thu Jun 28 11:09:40 2007
TOL, Bagillt
Hi Paul of Northampton.I refer to your enquiry of the 21st June last regarding your reference to the former Blossons Pub. It, to the best of my knowledge, is not an Indian Restaurant. The new name of the pub is now the RED DRAGON but not the Welsh version as it depicts a Chinese version of the Dragon on the outer walls of the Pub.
Wed Jun 27 14:19:57 2007
Paul C, Northampton
Is it true the Blossoms pub is now an Indian restaurant? - sacrilege!
Thu Jun 21 15:54:05 2007
William Russell Jones, Cefn Mawr
To Steph Louise Jones; I have looked through the Census records and can't find a David Conway who was a Farmer in the Bagillt area. However my Great-Grandparents were David and Eleanor Conway, who could well have lived in the Bagillt area.
Wed May 30 08:14:08 2007
Lee Marvin from Christchurch NZ.
Steph from Cardiff. There is a Wern farm in Bagillt but it's not on Foel Gron. The Wern farm is at the top of Wern avenue leading to the Wern. 30 or so years ago they used to have loads of pigs and a big corn field. No cows or sheep like you'd expect! The man who has it now is Eddie Hughes and it's not a working farm. Hope this may be of help to you.
Thu Apr 26 13:03:53 2007
Rob Whinnett
Was there a hotel in or near Bagillt called the Bryntick or Bryteg around the turn of the 20th century? I am trying to trace my great grandfather, Thomas Craig, who may have owned or managed it.
Tue Apr 24 10:17:34 2007
Steph Louise Jones (19), Cardiff
Hi there, My grandad's grandparents (David & ? Conway) used to live at and operate The Wern Farm, Foel Gron, Bagillt. I was wondering if anyone has any information regarding the farm or family I'd be very grateful. I appreciate that the info I have is limited and once I have acquried more, I shall post again. Many thanks!
Mon Apr 23 08:13:19 2007
Sue Dennett, Sussex
I would like to thank TOL for taking the trouble to reply to my request for information about Mabel Jones. I have now found out that she lives near Cefn Mawr - and is rather younger than the Mabel Jones that TOL knew! Thanks again - your reply was much appreciated.
Tue Apr 3 11:00:28 2007
TOL, Bagillt
I doubt very much that the Mable Jones to which Sue Dennett from Sussex refers is the same one which she has requested information of from this page. The Mable Jones to which this page refers, along with her husband Charles, would now be well over a hundred years of age, their son Edwin also died many years ago. If Sue wishes to highlight photograph number four of this page Mabel is standing far right of the photo behind three young ladies in the kneeling position, her husband Charles is extreme right and the taller of the gentlemen standing at that location, their son Edwin is in the back row at a 'centre location' of the bus and looking slightly to his right. To give you some indication, this photo was taken approximately sixty years ago on a trip, which my late mother organised to Southport. (28/03/07)
Thu Mar 29 09:03:46 2007
Sue Dennett, Sussex
I have read with interest about Mable Jones on these pages. Is this the same Mable Jones who was the daughter of Llew and Nance Arthur of Rhosymedre? If so, I would like very much to contact her. I have been told that she lives in Pentre.
Mon Mar 26 09:51:56 2007
DAWN PRITCHARD-CORBETT, BAGILLT
My father Glyn Pritchard is pictured in the darts team photo and uncle Wolfie. Has anyone got any photos of Llewellyn Pritchard who is my grandfather and Dan Pritchard my great uncle, and I still see uncle Don driving round on his tractor.
Mon Mar 26 09:13:49 2007
Jean from Bagillt
Does anyone remember Sarah-Ann (Sally) and Robert-John Williams? They lived in Eldon Cottages near the Feathers in Bagillt. They had 3 children Edna Urwin, who is now 77, George, 71, and John would have been 76. He died 22 years ago. Edna was married to Glyn Pritchard and George was married to Eileen Pritchard.
Mon Mar 26 08:51:54 2007
Paul C
There's no place like home, believe me! I miss Bagillt.
Wed Mar 21 08:34:08 2007
Ian Pritchard
Hi Lee, how's it going mate? My family still in Wern Ucha, dad still driving tractor up and down. I see your mum and dad often. I will pass on your regards to Mike and family. As for Jeff he lives here with his girlfreind and baby daughter. Nice to hear from you Lee. Hope everything fine in Christchurch.
Thu Mar 8 08:31:20 2007
Lee Marvin from Christchurch NZ.
How are you Ian Pritchard? It's been a long time since I've seen you. Hope Mike and your mum and dad are all OK. Is your dad still driving the tractor around Bagillt? Is the family still in Wern Ucha? Is Geoffy still about and is he still the charactor he was? I remember he was the top space invader player in the Pentre Chip Shop when we were all around 13 to 17 years old. He was a missed opportunity as he was a natural comedian who had everyone in stitches. I miss some of that humour down under! Say hello to Mike and the family for me will y'?
Mon Mar 5 08:43:00 2007
TOL Bagillt
Hi Ian. Thank you for your response to the location of your family home Nant-y-Moch. There is a picture of the house in our History Club collection, if you are interested I can arrange a copy.
Wed Feb 28 07:54:57 2007
Ian Pritchard, Bagillt
Hi, my dad's family did live near to Nant y Moch, the family home was behind Bryntirion Hall. They moved to Sandy Lane in 1940.
Mon Feb 26 09:12:30 2007
Sue Achterberg (Pierce) Australia
To TOL, Bagillt. How wonderful that you remember my grandfather. I would love to hear of any memories with him you might have. I have corresponded with Colin (BHC) who sent me a copy of the darts photo. Yes, please let Aunty Margaret and Mair know that I am seeking info. Thank you, Sue
Fri Feb 23 11:06:43 2007
TOL Bagillt
I was pleased to read the comments of Ian Pritchard, Bagillt, who has now been able to put the final name to the Gentleman wearing the scarf on the Bagillt Arm's Darts team. I was also quite intrigued to read the reason why Dan appeared on the photo. It was as recent as last Friday 16/02/07 when I 'exchanged a wave' to your father Don, I was waiting for the 'chippy' to open at the Wern when he passed by driving his Tractor. Glyn and Wolfie were also well known to me, Glyn was at the Merllyn School at the same time as myself. Perhaps Ian can find out for me whether or not the Pritchard family lived near to Nant-y Moch, I seem to remember that earlier members of the family did live at that location way back in the 1940s prior to moving to Sandy Lane, we have a picture of that property on our Bagillt History file. 22/02/07
Fri Feb 23 10:15:34 2007
Ian Pritchard. Bagillt
The man sat in the middle row (far right) wearing the scarf is Dan Pritchard - the uncle of my Dad, Don Pritchard, and also the uncle to Glyn and Wolfie Pritchard who are seen in the top row of the photograph. According to my Dad, Dan wasn't actually in the Darts Team but was just there to be in the picture -which may shed some light as to who he was!
Mon Feb 19 13:28:43 2007
TOL, Bagillt
Ref to enquiry. Sue Achterberg, Australia. Sue, I knew your grandfather very well, he did indeed live at Wern Avenue and did of course play cricket for Northop.
We quite often see his daughter Margaret in Flint and her sister Mair is a friend of my sister-in-law.
Can I mention to Margaret of your interest?
Mon Feb 19 11:37:11 2007
Sue Achterberg from Australia
Regarding the photo 'Bagillt Arms Darts Team'. My grandfather was Dave Pierce (middle row- far left). He lived on Wern Ave. Anyone remember him? I'm currently doing the family tree and would love to receive any info. He also played cricket for Northop CC.
Fri Feb 16 13:33:57 2007
Steve Bagshaw from Farnborough
To Lee Marvin, NZ. Thank you for the information, I hope your brothers are both well. I certainly remember your parents, I used to call them Uncle George and Aunty Gwyneth. Times have certainly changed a great deal. I can remember quite clearly walking with your brothers from Wern Ucha to Cornist park in Flint just to have what we thought would be a swim in the pool there. What a surprise we got when we found out it was only a paddling pool. You might want to let the lads know that my dad Bill passed away 3 years ago this September, mother still lives in Flint. Anyone else reading this, do you know of: Larry Hamilton, Brian Blackwell or Rodney Hughes all from Pen-y-Glyn. It would be nice to hear about them and before I forget, Craig Allsop.
Wed Feb 14 11:10:45 2007
TOL Bagillt
NEIL SIMON. I can confirm that it is indeed the late John Simon from Wern Ave.
Wed Feb 14 10:55:21 2007
Neil Simon
Can you tell me whether the person in the bottom left of the photo is John Simon of Wern Ave?
Tue Feb 13 09:27:15 2007
TOL Bagillt
Hi Lee, in Christchurch NZ. My apologies, but as yet I have not had the time to visit the Old London Road. However, since reading your response, I have been told that a University, possibly Bangor, has carried out a study at that location, if and when I can find out details I will let you know. If you are not already aware, you may wish to have a look on the bbc north east web for the Bagillt History Club site also go into 1. Your Say 2. Ask a Local 3.Second WW (Spitfire) 4. Bagillt Plane Crash, also Then and Now. I feel certain that if you have not already found these pages! You will find interesting reading.
Mon Feb 12 12:02:10 2007
Lee Marvin from Christchurch NZ.
To Steve Bagshaw from Farnborough. Luther and Neil Williams are my eldest brothers. Neil has been in Amsterdam for the past 25 years or so and Luther is still about Bagillt but lives in Corwen now. Stan Nolan is still on the Wern. I'll let Neil know via the internet about this site and maybe you can e-mail each other. I'm not sure if Luther is on line but i'll tell him anyway.
Fri Feb 9 12:08:18 2007
Steve Bagshaw from Farnborough, Hants
I'm an ex Bagillt boy, used to live in Wern Ucha as a boy. Some of the names I can remember of people I used to hang around with are; Luther & Neil Williams, Derek Jones, Stanley Nolan, Paul Williams and Andrew Humphreys. My memories of being a kid in the Wern are all good. I had a sister, Lynda, who wasn't a particularly well child and there may be some who would remember her, my other sister Carol lives in Flint and my brother Michael, who was the youngest, like Lynda has passed away. I can also remember fishing for eels and fish down the cob and in condies lake. If you remember me it would be lovely to hear from you.
Mon Feb 5 13:59:12 2007
TOL
To E.M. Pedley-Prestatyn. If you 'highlight' picture number four above you will see Charles & Mabel Jones, Mr Jones is back row extreme right, Mrs Jones is middle row also extreme right.
Wed Jan 31 15:12:30 2007
TOL Bagillt
Hi Gwyn,
I was so pleased to read your comments. Your dad and I were good friends in the 'old days' ask your dad if he remembers our visit to Luxembourg. In 1953 a group of apprentices fron Brookhirst Switchgear had a great time there. Also mention to your dad that the old factory where we served our time has a housing estate built on it now, one of my daughters lives near that location in Chester, in fact we paid a visit to her today and passed by where the factory stood.
Regards, Terah Lloyd. 30/01/07
Tue Jan 30 17:01:26 2007
Gwyn James, Bagillt
To TOL, Bagillt. I am the youngest son of Cliff James and he often talks about the time you both served your apprenticeship and about the laughs you had. I will print this off to show him as i'm sure he'd love to have a read through.
Mon Jan 29 10:23:06 2007
TOL, Bagillt
With the assistance of my freind Noel I am now able to add a few more names to the photo of the Bagillt Arms Darts Team, they are:
Top Row, L to R, 4 Walley Pritchard, 5 Trevor Lloyd,
Middle Row, L to R, 4 Tom Parry, 5 Llewelyn Jones,
Bottom Row L to R, 2 John (FW), 3 Arther Baxter, 4 J Robinson, 5 Jock Samuals, and Goroway Griffiths. The only person that needs to be identified is in the middle row far right with scarf?
Wed Jan 24 09:14:26 2007
TOL Bagillt
I wish to thank Lee for his prompt response.
I have to admit, it must be well over twenty years since I was in the proximity of Bob Salisbury's Farm, however, as it will only take me a few minutes to drive over there I will check the present status of the road and 'report back'. TOL 16/01/07
Tue Jan 16 15:41:00 2007
Lee Marvin from Christchurch, NZ
To TOL, in Bagillt. You're right it is John Simon and I'm sorry to hear he has passed away. I know his son Neil who is 2 years older than me. My brother Neil in Amsterdam also corrected me on this. My dad, George Williams, has a near identical photo to this. I must correct you on the surfacing of the old Roman roads though. From roughly 100 metres going up the hill from Bob Salisbury's farm, Gadlys Lane, you'll find to your left the remains (still cobbled) of the Roman road that will lead you part way to the Wern. The road stretches for about 70 metres or so and is very narrow. Up until I left for New Zealand 5 years ago it still remained.
Mon Jan 15 09:28:37 2007
TOL, Bagillt
With regards to the photo of the Bagillt Arms Darts Team.
My friend Noel has confirmed to me that the person to the top right of the picture is in fact John Collins former Station Master at Bagillt and as previously stated is not his brother Freddie, it has also been confirmed to me that the person to the bottom left of the photo is indeed the late John Simon.
I feel it appropriate to put the names of all those present, I will list below the names of those I remember by name, perhaps someone else can add to those remaining marked thus?
TOP ROW, left to right:
Robert Evans, Glyn Pritchard, Tom Marshal, ? , ? , ? , John Collins.
MIDDLE ROW left to right:
Dave Pierce, Jonny McHugh, Newton Jones,?,
?, Lionel Buck, ? .
FRONT ROW left to right:
John Simon, John Jones, Bill Platt, ? , Jock Samuals, Gronway ?.
Mon Jan 15 09:23:32 2007
TOL, Bagillt
In response to Lee's from NZ enquiry the Roman Road system. There are, to the best of my knowledge, three sections of road that remain and which I understand were built by the Romans. They are the Old London Road which passes the Cottage Hospital at Flint, the next section which passes my home goes from Old Engine to the bottom of Bryntirion Road, this section is on our house deeds refered to as Old London Road, (see photo No 5 from this group of photos) and the remaining section is near the Wern where Lee mentioned. All surfaces of these roads have Tarmac.
With regards to Lee's other comments regarding the Bagillt Arm's darts club. I remember most, if not all, of the people shown but there are two or three names I am not too sure of. What I can confirm is that Tom Marshal is indeed in a home, the man to the top right is, I regret to say, not Fred Bennet his brother Noel, a good freind of mine, has just confirmed to me that it could be Willy Platt? I must admit that I was rather surprised when you said that the person to the bottom left of the photo was your father George Williams I have, ever since seeing this photograph, thought that person to be the late John Simon? 06/01/07
Mon Jan 8 09:54:54 2007
Lee Marvin from Christchurch NZ.
I'd just like to say about the photograph of the Bagillt Arms darts team. The man in the top left is my maternal grandfather Robert Evans who sadly I never knew. Third from top left is my uncle Tom Marshal, who was married to my late aunty Megan. I think he's in a home in Rhyl now. The man on the top far right was a man called Freddy Bennet, who was a great friend of my dad. The big man sitting two from bottom left was John 'Free Wheel' Jones. He's the grandfather to Andy, Heather and John Jones of the Wern. Last but not least, the bottom left is my dad George Williams, he's the best looking one! My dad still lives on the Wern with my mam, Gwyneth Williams. My dad has got this picture and many more besides. I'll let him know and you 'Bagillt heritage' can get them put on the internet.
Thu Dec 28 10:47:18 2006
Lee Marvin from NZ
Hello I was brought up in Bagillt and now live in NZ. I wonder if anyone can answer a question for me. The old London Road that runs from Gadlys Lane to the back of Romans way in Bryntirion. A lot of it is lost now due to the building of the Wern, Pen-y-glyn, and Bryntirion. At the back of Romans Way and at the top old London Road off Merllyn lane (where there's the big sycamore tree) it all seems to be made of cobble stone. Was this actually layed by the Romans or was it layed later? The reason I'm asking is that when I was a kid and used to play in these areas. It was quite obvious that they are the only roads for miles around that are cobbled. The Romans were famous for their cobble stone roads in Britain and it just seems reasonable to suggest that they are the original thing. If so then they should be maintained and protected for posterity. They also could be a tourist attraction. I may be wrong but can anyone prove me wrong. Lets not leave them rot away or even worse tarmaced over. While on the subject. In a field at the back of the Manor estate ther is a big bump in the middle of the field. This bump is twice the size of a house and has no earthly excuse for being there. As it happens it's on the same course as the old London Road that would have gone right through there 1600 to 2000 years ago. I'm in New Zealand now and can't investigate. Happy hunting!
Mon Dec 18 10:33:28 2006
TOL Bagillt
Hi Eric, Many thanks for your response to the aerial photo which I published, your observations are spot on. I do indeed remember rescuing my sister in-law to be from the Dee. What an experience that was. Thanks once again. TOL
Tue Dec 12 08:11:14 2006
Liam, Bagillt
I've lived in Bagillt all my life and think it is a great village my dad owns a shop in the village called N R Glazier's. I went to Merllyn school when head teacher was Mr Closs Parry. Also think he was an excellent teacher and I owe a lot to him.
Tue Dec 5 09:12:08 2006
Eric from Bagillt now off Flint
The photo I think is of the area from the Bedol farm, Tyddyn Messham, bottom of Bryntyrion, the old vicarage and Neston View. Near to T. Oldfield-Lloyd's home.
Do you remember swimming in the Dee, and rescuing your sister in-law to be?
Mon Dec 4 09:54:36 2006
Eric off Flint but from Bagillt.
I lived up the Wern until I got married. I'm very pleased to read about the history of Bagillt. My mother's family were known as Jones Pen-Y-Gob and occupied two cottages out of a terrace of three. Mrs Seville lived next door. My taid worked at Bettisfield and Point of Ayr too which he had to walk to every day. I have a book of air crashes in North Wales and the German bomber crash is mentioned. The pilot was captured and Mrs Thomas, librarian at Flint, gave him a bar of chocolate.
Mon Oct 16 09:37:35 2006
Fiona Thomas Pandy Tudur
I lived in Bagillt till I was 13, my mum and dad were Les and Edie Nicholson does anyone remember them? I still think of Bagillt as my home, it was a lovely place to live.
Thu Aug 3 10:13:05 2006
Terah Oldfield-Lloyd. Bagillt.
HI Alison,
There is another page that you may wish to try on the North East Wales Web - Bagillt Plane Crash. There you will find some interesting reading.If You have not already done so try the Bagillt History Club site as well. Now to your other question, there was indeed a bomb found in Bagillt initially by myself and a school friend. It was dropped on the Merllyn School field but failed to explode. My full story about this Bomb can be found on the BBC People's War website, in addition to this I have more stories published.
1 'Watery Grave' of Heinkell 111. P-4,
2, Near Miss 1,
3, Near Miss 2.
Just enter these titles and you should be able to read them, if however you have any problems I could send them to you via e-mail, for obvious reasons have your mum phone me with your e-mail address and I will post them to you.
NB for one reason or other my messages, when submitted,sometimes revert to lower case,and which I have no control over. Kindest regards, Terah Web Team replies: This is to prevent people from writing their comments in capital letters.
Mon Jun 12 10:36:59 2006
Alison Holmes from Cyprus
Just wanted to say thank you to Mr Terah Oldfield Lloyd, firstly, for answering my question, it is so nice to speak to someone from home when you are so far away, especially someone who knows my family. And secondly for offering to provide me with some more information. I am extremely interested in knowing anything about "The Old Bagillt", so anything you could provide would be appreciated. Perhaps you could answer me one quetion, is it true that there was once a bomb found in Bagillt, as I have heard a few different stories about this. Thanks again
Fri Jun 9 08:21:33 2006
Terah Oldfield-Lloyd. Bagillt.
Hi Alison,
yes i do know both your mum and dad very well, indeed, your uncle Goronwy was, in our younger days, a good friend as was your Uncle Clifford, Clifford and I actually served our apprenticeship together between 1949 - 1955.
I was in conversation with your mum the other day and told her that if you would like to read three more stories that are published on bbc peoples' war site I could let her have the information. Kindest regards. Terah.
Tue Jun 6 09:19:09 2006
Alison Holmes nee James
Just a quick question to Mr Terah-Oldfield Lloyd of Bagillt, does he happen to know my parent Ursula James and Gwyn James? I now live in Cyprus and I am sure I have regulary heard my Mum especially talk of you.
Mon Jun 5 09:42:34 2006
Terah Oldfield-Lloyd. Bagillt.
WITH REFERENCE TO PETER WILLIAMS FROM DELAWARE AND HIS COMMENTS ABOUT THE BLOSSOMS PUB.
FIRSTLY AND REGARDING DAVID'S REFERENCE TO JOE BLOGG'S. IN THE 'OLD DAYS' WE DID IN FACT SAY THAT PEOPLE WERE 'OFF FLINT' AND 'FROM BAGILLT'. IN ADDITION, WHAT I CAN CONFIRM IN HIS REFERENCE TO THE BLOSSOMS PUB. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT DAVID HAS THOUGHT THAT THE 'c' BELOW THE PHOTO OF THE BLOSSOMS STANDS FOR CLOSED. WHEN IN FACT IT MEANS CIRCA IE, THE PHOTO OF THE BLOSSOMS WAS TAKEN CIRCA 1950. I REGRET TO SAY HOWEVER THAT THE BLOSSOMS PUB CLOSED RECENTLY AND IS NOW BOARDED UP.
Wed May 24 16:36:19 2006
Peter Williams from Delaware
Your example, Joe Bloggs from Flint should be Joe Bloggs off Flint. Also I had a drink with some friends at the Blossoms when the Eisteddfod visited Flint in l969 so its days did not end in l950s as your photo states.
Fri May 19 09:06:01 2006
Terah Oldfield-Lloyd. Bagillt.
Reference to E. M. Pendly's, Prestatyn comments. Charles & Mable Jones did indeed have a son called Edwin, he is the person to the centre of the photo, back row, with a bus company's name 'ja--in' as the 'backdrop', he appears to be looking right on the photo. Mr & Mrs Jones were also on this trip which was organised by my mother, they were far right of the photo which unfortunately has been 'cropped off' perhaps the editor might consider reducing the photo a little more in order to include all members who were on this day outing?
Wed May 10 09:16:11 2006
E.M.Pedley--Prestatyn
My parents' friends lived in Boatmans Row from about 1924. Charles & Mabel Jones, one son called (Edwin)?
Wed May 3 12:04:11 2006
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