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Questions about Wynnstay Manor & Lindisfarne College, Wrexham

Last updated: 18 May 2009


your comments

Simon Carrington
Hi. I was at Lindisfarne in Newborough house, from winter 62 to summer 65 remember many of you who have contributed. My namesake Simon Carrington (son of headmaster, Robert) (my late father's name) is professor of music at Yale Universiry. I however live in Ripon, Yorkshire.
Mon May 18 09:07:17 2009

Jonathan Miller
After almost 40 years overseas I returned to live in Manchester at the beginning of March (2009). Once settled I decided to show my better half where I attended school. After a one hour drive I was simply dumbfounded to find this seriously upscale residential complex that barely resembled what I remember as my school. I am curious to know the whereabouts and 'what happened to' of the Parry brothers, Titch and David, Adam Gotch, Mike Durband and anyone else who attended during the early sixties.
Thu Apr 16 09:43:17 2009

Janos Konyves from Sweden
I spent a wonderful year at Lindisfarne College 1971-1972. I remember the lack of heat in the winter and all the beautiful gardens which we had to pass on our forbidden visits to the pubs in Ruabon. I grew up and now I'm working as a surgeon in Sweden.
Wed Apr 15 10:36:27 2009

John Simmons, Henley-In-Arden, Warwickshire
I was at Lindisfarne college from 1954 to 1960. Had a woderful time (with hindsight) but achieved nothing academically. I remember well the school walks on crisp winter days.The 'hunger strike' as a complaint about the poor food which resulted in a new kitchen and dining room. Mr Simpson (the carp) was my house master, a great guy in every sense lying in bed and hearing his car racing past on the gravel part of the drive on his way back from the pub (I presume). I stll see Richard Kitchen and remember well Chris and Stuart Graham, Michael Van Kleeff. Wadeson, Savika. I have been back in the past couple of years, the old building is now full of apartments but has not changed at all externally and the views are still wonderful.
Wed Apr 15 10:34:45 2009

Sarah Fraser
For Rabi'u Haruna, hi Rabs hope you remember me. It's a long time ago but I've never forgotten you and Naz. How is he? Please get in touch would love to hear from you.
Tue Apr 14 11:49:13 2009

Sarah Fraser
for Abdi Ibrahim. Bubble head how's ya doing? Abs I wish we'd kept in touch. How's Shukri? Please get in touch.
Tue Apr 14 11:43:10 2009

Emil Mustafa, Nigeria
Hi all, I was at the college from 77-85. I would like to get in touch with anyone from that year. My nickname was Mickey. It's sad to hear the school was closed down.
Tue Apr 14 10:47:31 2009

June from Shropshire
Hello. In reply to Alison Smith from Western Australia, my great x4 grandfather Thomas Madeley began a gardening career under Mr Dawson of Wynnstay and after various posts on different estates, came back to Ruabon circa 1835 and began a career as a schoolmaster. Thomas's father James Madeley was chief huntsman. It is interesting to discover snippets of info about the estate community, the servants and workers on the Wynnstay estate. I have not been able to find out much about James Madeley the huntsman who died aged 80 circa 1840. Does anyone have any info/ know of any records of the Wynnstay hunt in the late 1700s? Thanks.
Thu Mar 26 09:55:54 2009

Joe Bloggs from Flint
Just been down there today, what a stunning place!
Mon Mar 16 09:03:22 2009

John D Dougherty from California
I was at Lindesfarne from 71-73 (I think) and I do remember the Zumlas, most likely cause they were real good fellas! I went back when I was just married in '82 and met up with Mr. Trebble, a math teacher from back then. Geog was still Head. God love 'em. What a time we had. I still think back on it.
Thu Mar 12 07:46:40 2009

Alison Smith from Mt Barker W.Australia
My great great grandfather Roger Williams worked on the Wynn estate and his son George (b.1820) also. Probably involved with the horses. It is thought George went as part of the entourage to Auchincruive, Ayr, when the daughter of the house married into the family there. George became head of the racing stables. I would be interested to hear from anyone else whose ancestors worked on the estate, particularly Paul of West Sussex and June McCarthey of Shropshire who have both put in entries to this site.
Tue Mar 3 08:02:04 2009

June McCarthy from Shropshire
Hello all, especially Alison Wright from Tavistock. Before becoming a schoolmaster at Ruabon, my great x4 grandfather Thomas Madeley is said to have begun a gardening career under Mr Dawson, gardener at Wynnstay. Have you (or anyone) any more info on the gardens at Wynnstay in the early 1800s?
Tue Feb 17 10:24:40 2009

Michael van Kleeff, Eastbourne, East Sussex
Stumbled upon this site while doing some research for my daughter who is writing a story for a children's book about a girl at boarding school. As she never went to one I thought I'd fill her in on the essentials of life at one from personal experience. Fun seeing all the comments from guys I was at school with, and me mentioned in one! Thanks Wadeson! I was at Lindisfarne from about '58 to '63 first travelling from Tenerife then South Devon when my parents moved to England. I was supposed to have met up with Seager and Ives last year. I somehow got the date wrong and didn't realize until the day after we were to have met. Very embarrassing sorry guys! I have never been back but have always wondered if the old oak tree still stands next to the new playing field by the lake. If you could get up through the hole in the canopy you'd find yourself in a magical world! The monument or did we call it the column?, yeah, climbing that was fun! And climbing onto the top of the tower or down into the cellars and following an electric cable that disappeared into a wall only to find a well concealed false door into another room, and crawling under the floorboards of the main hall! Swimming across the Dee Ventnor. I've tried to locate Antonio Zerpa. Was at his wedding in mid '60s but lost touch.
Mon Feb 16 09:07:22 2009

Peter Taylor from Halesowen
I started at Lindisfarne in the autumn term 1950, and left in 1954 at the end of the summer term. Had a good time there, and remember being whacked with a gym shoe for talking after dormitory lights out, the school walks to Llangollen, rugby or cross country runs every weekday winter afternoons and of course Mr Dawes - he was a truly great headmaster. And the boys I knew - Robert and John Hoare, Nicky Pilling, David Kent, Peter Linacre, Robert Sole, John Gray etc. The masters - Geog Jones who ran the scouts and the feared Mr Simpson, Mr Cochrane the sports master who also taught French to the juniors. The dormitories, particularly the lower, middle and upper Tower dorms. I would like to acquire a copy of the book that Mr Dawes wrote - I think it was called "Long summer evenings at Lindisfarne" but have not been successful. I have a school photo taken in 53 or 54 in which one boy called Bowler (can't remember his first name) managed to appear on the photo twice by running around the back of all the boys standing in tiers and getting to the end before the camera did!
Fri Jan 9 07:33:45 2009

Alex Barclay now in Chorley Lancs
I was there from '58 to '67. I would love to contact several of the people listed on this site. I have been in touch with David Parker, Mike Whittaker, Arnold Keller, Jim Seargeant. Many wonderful golden memories. I would be very interested to read the book that Dorrie gave out when he left (for some reason I didn't get one!). I still have several old school photos.
Mon Dec 29 10:24:06 2008

Andy Hamilton, Nelson, NZ
I was briefly at Lindisfarne for 12 months in the early 1970s, what a cold experience for a bot from Zambia. My brother Chris Hamilton was there for rather longer, all the way through sixth form. I remember the Nicholsons (sp?) from Angola and a guy called Phelps who wasn't the kindest, and getting whacked by Mr Lighthowler...
Mon Dec 29 09:24:40 2008

David Stewart, Hampshire
I was delighted to find this site and see names from the past. I was at Lindisfarne from 1957-62 when Mr Daws was head. I have many happy memories, and some painful ones, of my time there. I would really like to hear from anyone who remembers me, especially Mick Salmon, Chris Oates, or any other members of Tahiti study in what was then the new study block.
Tue Dec 16 07:59:24 2008

Bryan Parker, Cotswolds, Glos
Great to find a website about Lindisfarne. Lots of good old happy times.
Mon Dec 15 08:11:13 2008

Dave Pearce, Dallas, Texas, USA
Wow, talk about memory lane. I attended Lindisfarne in 1957. I can't remember many names, but I bet a lot of you will remember a Texan coming to school, and they nicknamed me "Tex". Talk about a cultural shock! I remember the huge figure of Mr Simpson with his army uniform, and of course Mr Dawes. I recognised someone had mentioned the Bawanni brothers, I believe they were from Pakistan, Karachi. One of them bunked next to me. Would love to hear from anyone who remembers the guy with the "Texas Twang".
Tue Dec 2 07:27:57 2008

Lesley Murray
I agree with Keith Hopton's comments about Lindisfarne. It was a very interesting school and it was so because of Mr Dawes. I think it declined rapidly after his retirement. He was an impossible act to follow!
Thu Nov 27 09:28:36 2008

Roger Stennett from Wrexham
I am trying to find the following - New Old Lindisfarnian Yahoo group.
Tue Nov 25 16:48:47 2008

Keith Hopton, Castleford, W Yorks
What a surprise to find this site and read all the comments. Just to put the record straight - L.C. was situated at Newburgh Priory in the Cotswolds during the war and then moved to Ruabon. My brother, Ronnie Hopton, was a boarder during this period. My father was involved in the construction of aerodromes and road transport, so he was able to use his lorries to move the school to Ruabon, no mean feat due to petrol rationing. Newbury Priory give guided tours to the public in summer, during a recent visit my wife and I made we did note the guide made several references to damage caused by school boys during the war. I felt it prudent not to disclose my link to L.C. Last year we returned to visit Wynstay Hall and all the old memories came flooding back. The cold in winter. The lack of hot water. pd wooding for the OCR. Swimming in the school's first swimming pool the dammed up stream the Chine, freezing even in summer. Talking after lights out three of the best with my head under the small sink in the junior bathroom. The school walks, Horseshoe Pass, Llangollen, Crow Castle, Snowdon, and trips abroad Venice and Lake Lucerne...fab. The little walks with Dorry for all boys over thirteen, I think we called them Frenchies. Climbing the memorial in the woods for a dare, there were three steps missing on the way up, a great view from the top. The back room of the Bridge Inn. God bless them the young ladies of Ruabon, I think one went on to be involved in a high profile murder case, but I am not sure of any facts. I remember playing the school organ for morning and evening assembly, three hundred boys singing Onward Christian Soldiers in the main hall, I did not realise at the time but what a great sound. The list could go on forever. Lindisfarne was unique and in my opinion its character and quality that so many boys benefited from came from one man: Edward Daws. I am retired, married with two children and would love to hear from any old boy.
Mon Nov 24 10:48:56 2008

Peter Wadeson from West Sussex
I was at Lindisfarne from about 1957 to about 1961 in Newburgh House. My brother, Derek, turned up a year or two later. Had a mixed bunch of friends including Chris Oates, Michael Van Kleef, Chris Graham and Richard Kitchen.
Wed Oct 15 09:59:54 2008

Sargon Addi from California
Came across this page by chance. Brought back many old memories from 1966-68, especially like to hear from Nell (Nick) Thorpe and Sam Canon (Cannon?). Any old mates can contact me - the web team has my address.
Tue Oct 14 10:03:34 2008

Lesley Murray, Oswestry
I very much enjoyed reading Arturo Nicholls' account of his time at Lindisfarne. He mentions Joe Coe. Remember meeting him briefly during the summer of 1965. He was going on an organised holiday with Mr and Mrs Dawes and a group of boys. My parents, brother and I spent the fortnight looking after Wolverton Manor, and in particular their airdale dog Francis. One boy remained with us and his name Brian Backwell.
Tue Sep 16 08:32:41 2008

Arturo Nicholls now living in Venezuela
Attended Lindisfarne from 1958 to 66. I was a member of Westcliff House with Mr Cochrane as my Housemaster. There were many things which one could retell if one had the time because there was an average of about 300 boys housed at the time. The Head Masters during my period of attendance were E. Daws and Carrington. Quite a few additions occurred like the new dinning hall, the swimming pool, the new playing fields by the lake, the new common rooms, the repainting of the class rooms from the musty old post war colours to more modern and appealing ones. Much of the painting was done by ourselves, the new shower rooms, etc. In 1962 we survived one of the coldest winters in years, I remember that the sewer pipes froze and the starting of the January term was put back a couple of weeks because of that. When we finally started there were only school runs for sports because all the playing fields were snowed over. We were eventually pressed into chain gangs to shovel the snow. Someone commented about the fact that there was no heating in the dorms. I remember my wet hair freezing during my trip from the bath room to the dorm, quite an event! I'll bet that a difficult thing to be allowed now days. How many of you were wacked or caned by prefects or housemasters? I was wacked 3 times by a prefect on my second night becaused I commented about the noise the wind made when it hit the dorm windows and arched them. We were not allowed to talk after lights out. We were woken up in the mornings by a guy with voice disabilites walking around all the dorms ringing a bell manually!! It would take him about 3/4 of an hour to walk around all the dorms, so if you were at the last ringing place you could sleep half an hour more. Eventually an electric bell system was installed. Of course during my stint at Lindisfarne I was commanded by all the teachers mentioned by others in this site. Mr. Cochrane (Jerry), Mr. Jones (Owl), Mr. Simpson (Carp.), Mr. Lang (Drac.), Miss Edwards (Matron, remember she used a hearing aide?)! , Mrs. Wilson (whose son was also attending the school). I can still visualise the glorious winter days when Mr. Daws would announce after prayers that there was to be a school walk to Llangollen. This ment a mass mobilization of all the able bodied students (plus masters like Mr. Williams whom was the lead person with a very fast pace) to the Ruabon train station. I can't remember the name of the station where we got off and started walking but the walk itself was glorious with wonderful views of the Welsh mountains. Just before starting down to Llangollen there was that last challange of climbing up to ruins of Crow castle [Dinas Bran]. Not all of us made it up. One could go on and on. How many remember: the end of term dorm feasts with a modest investment by its participants; smoking pipes, cigars, fags, in the common rooms, the school dances of course with all its rowdy associated events; studing outside or watching a school cricket match on a beautiful summer's day; playng rugby come rain, snow or sunshine; school cross country races going up and down muddy slopes; celebrating Guy Fawks night with a huge bonfire and being able to actually light our own fireworks (later prohibited due to some unruly and dangerous incidents). These are some of the things I can remember about Lindisfarne which is why, I presume, it gives us such enduring memories. Now does anybody remember me? I remember, Rick Smith, Les Lloyd, Joe Koe, Charlie Rea and his brother, Nigil Catty, Hastings, Bernad Powell, John Mackmillan.
Mon Sep 15 08:51:57 2008

Mo Kent
Ebay has several sports trophies for sale from Lindisfarne College dated 1922 for F. P. Harrison - anyone related?
Mon Sep 8 09:05:44 2008

Raj Patel, Los Angeles
I was at Lindisfarne in 1970 and played cricket for Welsh schools. L Roy Jones was the headmaster during my time. The Zumlas clan was there from Zambia. Would like to hear from my schoolmates during that time.
Mon Aug 25 19:28:20 2008

Lary Routh, Debary, Florida
I spent one year at Lindisfarne 66-67 in the fifth form. Was in Creesea House with Richard Ward and Cliff ?. Been a long time and I remember it was a very eventful time for me. Loved playing rugby. Even tackling Dennis Gaitey was fun. The only sports I played throughout my schooling. There were three other Yanks there, although I hated being called a Yank as I was from the South. Still a Southerner but recall several good times in the common rooms and listening to Eric Clapton, the BeeGees and the Supremes. There was "flower power" floating around as well as a whole new world opening up for me. I'm afraid my studies fell something short, but I was introduced to Guy Fawlkes Day and other things British. Got an education, if not any O levels. I enjoyed climbing out on the window ledge on the third floor and looking out over the back of the grounds. No heat in the rooms was a first for me. Had never seen snow before. Nor been introduced to foot and moth disease. Something I have been afflicted with my whole life. Richard Ward taught me how to swim in ice water after capsizing the sail boat. An all round grand time.
Fri Aug 22 07:57:11 2008

Dawn Garvey
I was at Lindisfarne around 1977. Would love to hear from anyone.
Wed Aug 6 10:02:23 2008

Lesley Murray, Oswestry
In reply to Susan Morgan's entry, such an incident may have been reported in the local papers at the time. These would include the Liverpool Daily Post and the Wrexham Leader. I imagine both these papers have archives for people to view. They can viewed in local libraries, perhaps in Wrexham.
Thu Jul 10 08:21:27 2008

SUSAN MORGAN
I wonder if anyone can remember an incident or heard talk of it from the secone world war. On 7th June 1943 a young boy was involved in a fatal accident involving a mortar/grenade of some description. His name was Michael Morgan and he was evacuated to Ruabon from Liverpool with his brothers Richie and Jimmy (my father). Michael apparently found the explosive and was playing with it not realising what it was. My dad then witnessed the explosion and was blown several feet himself from the blast. Michael had terrible injuries, including his hand blown off. He was carried to the house they were staying at but died in the porch before the ambulance arrived. My dad was 8 at the time and had to attend a military court as a witness. Understandably, he has found it difficult to talk about over the years but we obtained the local newspaper reports and a transcript from the court records at the inquest. I did not know until I came onto this site that Wynnstay Hall had been made available to the army as I always wondered how such a device was near to where children were evacuated. I suppose things were much more complicated than I thought. I wondered if anyone had heard of the incident (maybe there were more like it) as my father was only young when it happened
Wed Jul 9 14:02:55 2008

Richard, Nettleton, Burlington, Canada
I attended Lidisfarne 1954/5 to about 1960. When I left I was vice captain of school, Morrison was captain. E. Dawes was principal and I often went to the house in Ventnor for holidays. Names I remember are the Bowanni brothers, Keith and Seward, I am sure there were many more that I can't recall. If anyone remembers me would be pleased to hear from them.
Wed Jul 2 08:52:04 2008

Sebald Green
I was at Lindisfarne between 1950 and 1953 in Creeksea house and would like to hear from anyone who was there during those times. I remember Geoffrey Glover and sticky tar.
Tue Jun 17 11:15:55 2008

Becky Anderton, Wrexham
Great to find this page. Would love to talk to the best family (of Lindisfarnians) a pupil could wish to have especially you, Mr Guage! Also, a big hello to my class mates George, Sabrah, Louise, Baby face, Shukri, and my heroes Willem, Herman, Paul Kearns and so many more of you - too many to mention. So sad those days are gone.
Tue Jun 17 08:23:33 2008

John Logan, Perth, Western Australia
I am delighted to find this site because I was searching for something else in connection with my work as letters editor for a group of 17 newspapers in Perth. I attended Lindisfarne from 1956-66 and was in Newburgh House (the best) and "Geog" Jones was my housemaster. For the last few years of my time at school I was a day boy because my parents came to live in Wrexham and my brother, Andrew, then also attended Lindisfarne. After I left school I started work as a junior reporter on the Wrexham Leader and I'm still a newspaperman 41 years later, having worked on papers in UK, including The Times of London (twice) and during the frantic days of the Wapping "revolution", in Singapore, Nepal and now WA. I moved to Perth 12 years ago after spending nine years as deputy editor of the Chichester Observer group of newspapers. My wife is an Aussie so I suppose the move was inevitable. I returned to UK last year with my son (16) and we went to Wynnstay. What transformation and I was delighted to see that the fake windows the carpenters Trev, Bruce and I as their "apprentice" placed in the window spaces to the side of the great West Door are still there! Regards to any Old Lindisfarnian who might remember me. I have many fond memories of the old school, Dorm 10, Eagle Patrol, rugby on the bottom field, the Owl, Gerry Cochrane, "Carp" Simpson, Dorrie, the Rook, matron Susie Edwards and maths with Drac...and many, many good chums.
Thu Jun 5 12:03:50 2008

Lesley Murray, Oswestry
I was interested to read Mike Kennerley's remarks about his time at Lindisfarne and the dances with the Convent High School girls. I attended the Convent in Wrexham. Does anyone remember the play "The Fan" which was a joint production between Lindisfarne and the Convent? It was staged in the Pleasure Gardens on a beautiful July evening. I shall never forget it. In the interval, "A little night music" by Mozart was played. I had never heard it before. I expect Stephen Moore organised the music. I think the play was 18th cetury and the costumes were very good.
Fri May 23 07:54:03 2008

Darryl Borrello from Loxley Developments Ltd
Very interesting to hear everybodys' comments about Lindisfarne College and it truly holds great memories for all who attended. I am the Sales Manager at Loxley Developments and it is very sad that the College was closed down alas lack of funding did not allow it to continue. You will be pleased however to know that when Loxley purchased parts of the estate the restoration of the existing buildings which includes, Tattersall Stables, The Chapel and Croxwold House were renovated to the highest standards. Thus enhancing the original beauty and maintaining the natural characteristics of this amazing centuries old development. The sports hall has recently been demolished and the Heated Walled Garden is now being restored and will be the only Heated Wall in North Wales. I hope your memories will remain and whilst Wynnstay and Lindisfarne were "sold off for housing" you can rest assured the end result is tasteful elegant homes which blend with seamless perfection.
Wed May 21 08:52:31 2008

Mike Kennerley, Gua, India
I attended Lindisfarne from '61 until '68. Happy times. It seems a shame that there are so few pupils from this time included on this list. The only person I knew was Nelly Thorpe, I knew his brother Micky better. I remember some of the other names but did not know them. What about people like Terry Darko, Dennis Gaitley, Danny Calderia, etc. It would seem there is a large gap in people from this era. The last time I went back to Wynnstay Hall the school had closed down and the developers were about to start work. I have to admit I felt very upset to see the end of what seemed to me to be an important time in my life. I never was interested in the education side of school, more the rugby and the social life. School hops and dances at the convent in Wrexham. Great times! It seemed we derived great enjoyment from pulling the wool over eyes of the masters. It seemed that as long as we stayed out of their pub, they would stay out of ours! (The Railway Arms, or was it Tavern?) HAPPY DAYS!
Tue May 6 07:57:39 2008

Ayub Zumla
The next Lindisfarne reunion will take place at Wynnstay Hall Grounds on Saturday 5th July 2008. A cricket match will be played between an Old Boys XI and a current residents XI. The match will be played for the Cochrane Cup; in memory of Gerry Cochrane, ex-school master. Last year's match was fun and nearly 100 Old Boys and Girls turned up. This year a number are coming from as far away as the USA, Hong Kong and Dubai. All are welcome. The Lindisfarne spirit lives on!
Mon Mar 3 08:39:55 2008

Geoffrey Glover, Doncaster
I was a student at Lindisfarne College between 1951 and 1955 and am interested to read the various comments on this notice board. I knew James William Spence. He was head boy in my first term at at the school. I remember him as a fine young man. In his farewell speech he thanked the headmaster, Edward Daws, and presented him with an engraved conductor's batten. Mr Daws used the batton at all the subsequent orchestral recitals that he sebsequently conducted. I also remember David Tarr. He was indeed always playing the piano and I especially remember him playing "Do not forsake me O my darling" from the film High Noon. In fact, whenever I hear the tune I am instantly transported back to the big hall and David Tarr playing the piano.I was very friendly with Lional Booth. We still exchange Christmas cards, but I have not seen him for some years.I have very happy memories of my time at Lindisfarne. I wonder what happened to John Hoare who had a big influence upon my life.
Fri Feb 22 10:44:22 2008

Abdulrazaq Ibrahim (Abdi )
Hi, I am trying to find out about my class mates and school buddies in Lindisfarne College. I was there till 1985. I would appreciate if anyone who knows how to get connected to fellow freinds would be available. Thanks...and very glad to also get the latest photos.
Wed Jan 30 11:48:49 2008

Sarah Whitfield, London
I was very happy to hear from John Green of Hemel Hemsptead who posted a response in August 2007 to a request from me for information about the painter William Scott. I would very much like to follow up on this. The telephone number of the Scott Archive is 020 7352 2244.
Wed Jan 16 14:26:18 2008

David Tarr's sister Sandra from Boca Raton Florida
In reply to Nicholas Truman Baker South Africa posted 5th July 2006, regarding Sticky Tarr - my brother, David Tarr, attended Lindisfarne College at that time. I believe Edward Daws was Headmaster at that time. David Tarr (Sticky Tarr?) played the piano. Came from Cheadle Cheshire. He died in 1991. I miss him terribly and would love to hear any memories of your old times together.
Mon Nov 12 09:11:17 2007

Laurie Stevens Keynsham Bristol
I was posted to Wynnstay in April '43, after initial training at Beverley, to be trained as a surveyor in the Royal Engineers. We lived in huts to the rear of the estate. The hall was used as offices, the grounds were full of wildlife and a herd of deer. I remember the long walk up the drive from Ruabon. A disastrous solo march over the hills to Horseshoe Pass, but pleasant memories of fellow-men.
Wed Oct 17 08:25:33 2007

John Green, Hemel Hempstead
This is a response to Sarah Whitfield. I knew William Scott, we lived in the same hut for at least some of the time from mid-June '45 until September, I think, when the depot moved from Ruabon to Longleat. I cannot claim to have known him well not least because he was much older and he had a circle of artist friends. I can remember open air exhibitions with canvasses propped up against the hut wall. Demobilisation was just beginning and the camp filled with people awaiting release and to keep them occupied the Army Education Corps was rapidly expanded with several immediate promotions to the rank of Sergeant. William was one of the beneficiaries and seemed very surprised to find himself translated ro the Sergeant's mess and thus away from us ordinary mortals. At some point in the summer he had an exhibition in one of the London galleries and one influential reviewer, might have been in the 'Listener' made a comment to the effect that it was high time that this fine artist was released from military service - and that release came quite quickly after the review. I haven't much to add. I don't recall his painting from that time but I have seen examples in Ferens Art Gallery in Hull and in King's Fund dining room and there were a couple for a time on the wall of the RSA's Benjamin Franklin room. Does this help?
Mon Aug 20 17:00:05 2007

Sarah Whitfield
I would be interested to hear from anyone who was stationed at Wynnstay Hall when it was occupied by the Royal Engineers during the Second World War. I am researching the life and work of the painter William Scott who was stationed there 1944-45.
Thu Aug 9 10:02:15 2007

Ayub Zumla, Manchester
Peppa, I knew your dad very well. He was a wonderful person. I went back to Wynnstay two weeks ago and we took loads of pictures. Perhaps you could email me with your address and I will forward them. Regards, Ayub Zumla.
Tue Jul 24 15:27:18 2007

Pepa Witten, Spain
My parents worked in the college from '68 to 1976 in the catering. My father was the chef and we used to live in a cottage near the swimming pool. I have happy memories and I would like that someone sends me some pictures of this cottage in the way it is now, thanks.
Fri Jul 20 10:52:52 2007

Rabi'u Haruna, Nigeria
I am an ex-student 1981-1986 wishing to find out whether the school is still in existence. I was told that it has been closed down.
Mon Jul 9 08:13:14 2007

Nick Thorpe from St Helena
I was there from 1960 to about 1968. I had the unfortunate nick name of Nelly. Remember some names like Sargon Addi, Paul Bell. Such a long time ago
Mon Jul 9 08:12:28 2007

Nigel Jones, Lewes, East Sussex
I was a pupil at Lindisfarne in the late 60s (Wolverton House). My time spanned the transition between two heads (Carrington & L. Roy Jones, who stabilised the school after Mr C's abrupt departure) and also between the slow move of the school towards co-education. In my VI Form years, weekly dances were held in the Great Hall and Library to which girls from local schools were invited - as can be imagined they turned into hotbeds of heaving adolescent lust! Happy days indeed.ANother memory is of performing plays, also in the Great Hall. One of these, 'A Man for All Seasons', we took to Liverpool's Everyman Theatre and performed there. The Great Hall is now an ultra-modern apartment, sleeping 20 people, and is available for hire. I have hired it with my family and friends for a nostalgic week from July 27 2007 and would be pleased to see any OL's of my generation who may care to drop by.
Wed Jun 6 10:14:11 2007

Rachel Bowen, France
Wynnstay Hall is NOT in Wrexham but in Ruabon, and Lindisfarne college was there after the hall was sold to meet the death duties which accrued after successive inheritors' deaths which occurred very quickly one after the other (3 I think). I remember visiting the hall after the Army left and before it was sold. Lady Margueurite (Daisy) Williams Wynn took me round to show me the kitchens and the ballroom. Many of the rooms had been 'hung', that is the walls covered with, damask silk and these had been damaged by the officers, whose 'mess' it had been, throwing beer and other alcohol around. It was very sad to see.
Wed May 30 15:32:18 2007

David Winks, Japan
I was a student at Lindisfarne College, Ruabonfrom 1987-1992...my gosh feels like yesterday. I luv to get in contact with all my old friends from these days.
Fri May 25 14:37:16 2007

Spence, James William Yorkshire
My late father attended Lindisfarne between 1942 and 1951. I'm interested in talking with anybody that knew him.
Fri May 4 10:38:15 2007

Douglas Turnbull
I was at Lindisfarne from 1935 to 1942 (Westcliff and Coxwold). I moved to the U.S. (Marietta, GA) in 1956. Would love to hear from anybody of my vintage. Doubt there are many around now.
Tue Apr 24 08:31:01 2007

Ayub Zumla
This year we are holding an Old Boys/Girls reunion on July 7th at Wynnstay. The organisers have arranged a cricket match between the old boys and the current residents. Should be fun so please try and come if you can. Thanks
Mon Apr 23 10:00:07 2007

Caroline, Ruabon
Haycocks, May have been in school with you, lived in Rhosymadoc - just found this web site, v interesting
Fri Apr 13 13:57:00 2007

Peter Fleming,Cornwall formally Farnborough, Kent
I attended Lindisfarne College in the early 60s. The headmaster was Mr Edward Daws, then Mr Carrington. We all received a book by Mr Daws on his retirement July 1963 and I still have a copy. My housemaster was Mr Jones. I also have photos of the whole school, my house photos (Newburgh house), the hockey and cricket teams and the orchestra for the years I was there. I would be interested to hear for anyone I may have known during those years (1960-1964) or who knows what became of the college.
Fri Mar 9 08:08:09 2007

Roger Miller, Lewes, E Sussex
Like others I have happy memories of Lindisfarne 1954 to approx April 57. I remember Mr Dawes, headmaster; Mr Fagg and Miss Wilson. Pupils that come to mind - Pinit Klavaninjaya, Dilok, Tulalumba, and Surapongchai - spelling probably suspect.
Mon Mar 5 07:33:09 2007

New Old Lindisfarnian Yahoo group
We have now set up a new Old Lindisfarnian Yahoo group which is very active. Any Old Pupils of Lindisfarne College please mail me so I can invite you to join us! This year a reunion is bing held at the College grounds on 7th July. A cricket match is being held between an Old Boys XI and the Current Wynnstay residents followed by a Bar B Que. Currently our Group has over 40 members so please join us!
Mon Feb 12 12:40:47 2007

Divyang Patel from San Francisco
Several years ago I had wanted to have a class reunion but discovered that the school no longer was present. I had a most memorable experience while there from 1975 to 1980 along with my buddies Sakis Souglides, Harry Kokkinos, Vikram Oberoi, Ramzi Fadlallah amongst many! L Roy Jones was my headmaster, Mr Cochrane my housemaster at Cromwell and Mr Guess and Mrs Peet were instrumental in guiding my youthful days! Are there still any reunions every year? Would be fun to organize and arrange one!
Tue Feb 6 08:32:31 2007

Beth Ashwood, Somerset
My Great great grandmother - Bertha Marion Williams Wynn lived at Wynnstay and her town house was at 55 Lownes Square, London. Would love to hear any relevant information.
Mon Feb 5 08:53:10 2007

John Richard Stephens
Anybody who can tell me what has happened to my college? I was there in the 80s and I love the place even so the weather was bad. The teachers were too polite, the cooks were bad, but I miss my college and um...if anybody can give me feedback or anyone that remembers please drop a line on this website.
Thu Dec 28 09:28:59 2006

John Holroyd from Little Gomersal
I was at Lindisfarne Collage from 1951-55. I remember the Hall well and the primative nature of the accommodation. The Old Lindisfarnians Association was wound up about five years ago. The funds remaining were passed to the Church Council for the future maintainance of the schools War Memorial in the Parish Church yard, it having been moved there after the school had closed, and to pay for a wreath on each Rememberance Sunday.
Mon Dec 11 08:59:33 2006

Judith Whitehead from Taunton
I am trying to find names of people who worked at Wynnstay from approximatly 1750 to 1900 and the names of the Wynne families of that time and what became of them. I would be very pleased to know where I could find this information.Also the same for Gwydyr Castle.
Mon Nov 6 09:03:30 2006

lesley Murray Oswestry
I think that Rob Seager asked about John Coe on one of the Lindisfarne websites. I met John when we were staying at Wolverton Manor on the Isle of Wight with the Dawes in 1964. John was staying there over the Summer. He was a very nice person. He used to play "walzing Matilda on a harmonica. Perhaps he is living in Australia now.
Fri Oct 6 07:53:36 2006

Lesley Daniel, Oswestry
I was the among the first group of girls at Lindisfarne in 1971. I have happy memories of my days there, I have enjoyed reading the yahoo Lindisfarne people list. I knew lots of the people and my mother Anne Daniel is mentioned in one of the entries. She taught at the school in the 1970s.
Mon Sep 4 09:16:57 2006

Shahid Naqi, Calgary, Canada
I was at Lindisfarne College from 1965 to 1969. Carrington was the headmaster folloed by LR Jones. It was, all said and done, a happy time. I spent an easter vacation at Mr Dawes' house on the Isle of Wight.
Thu Aug 17 09:22:24 2006

Paul Fensham, Mexico City
Re Lindisfarne College. I would like to know about the school. I was a student there in the 1960s, any news would be welcomed. Any old students around?
Mon Jul 24 11:01:30 2006

Stephen Brown
I was interested in the comments on the gardens. I lived and worked there for 23 years up until the school closure. (My redundancy party became the general leaving party). I spent many days looking after trees and 'the pleasures' laid out by my namesake. I still have a tree survey carried out by local consultants (and full of errors) if anyone is interested. The Golden Oak is regarded as 'probably the finest example in Europe' of its species. The trees around the lower lake (which no longer exists) give a clue to its boundaries. The tunnels used to feed and drain it were still accesible when I was there and with an experienced cave diver I went through them. They were just below the Ice House (a few yards over the fence from The Lake).
Wed Jul 12 09:59:55 2006

Haycocks, Wynnstay Est
Hi all I have just found this site and have so enjoyed reading "all". I live on the Wynnstay grounds. I feel at home here as I have lived near Wynnstay all my life and have fond memories of the hall and grounds. I lived in a little village called Crab Tree Green "Eyton" just up the road where my family have lived for many many years.
Thu Jul 6 09:20:21 2006

Nicolas Truman-Baker
Hi I was at Lindisfarne from 1951 to 1954. A cadet under Simpson and in Creeksea House. Joined the Salisbury Club and was a monitor in my last term. Summer 1954. Does anyone remember 'Sticky Tarr' or Lionel Booth (he played the Organ in the Assembly hall and the Chapel)? I now live in South Africa.
Wed Jul 5 15:24:12 2006

rob seager
Derek Porter, Do u remember mike ives, he lives in Brisbane
Fri Jun 30 07:54:12 2006

Alan Outhwaite, Halesowen, West midlands
Richard Goring, Southend-on-Sea has missed the time that Lindisfarne was at Newborough Priory, Coxwold, Yorks. It left Coxwold at the end of the winter term 1949 and opened at Ruabon for the spring term in January 1950.
Tue Jun 13 15:02:25 2006

Derek Porter - Brisbane Australia
Found this site by accident, remember the school well. Student 1958 - 1962. Have fond memories of Dawes /Cochrane and Jones.
Tue May 30 07:35:57 2006

Dag von Arnold from Stockholm
Went to Lindisfarn College in 1955/56. Would like to hear from anyone from that time dagge3 at mac.com
Thu May 11 13:37:54 2006

Laurent Kwing Chee, Lam from Hong Kong
I attended Lindisfarne between 1963-1965. Stayed at Wynnstay Hall. I still have fond memories of the school and I would like to contact my old Lindisfarne friends.
Mon Mar 20 11:55:06 2006

Anon
wasat lindisfarne 1953to1958.anyone from those years,david cameron rick smith lots from siam hong kong,ytwong come on lets hear from you
Sat Feb 18 13:53:41 2006

Dutch Barhydt from Connecticut, USA
I, too, have stumbled across this internet site, and am quite intrigued. I was an American student at Lindisafrane from 1976-77, and it was an exceptional year in my life. I was the only Yank at the school, attending as an English-speaking Union scholar, and was accepted enthusiastically and made many good friends. L. Roy Jones was the Head, and I also knew the Cochranes, who were extremely welcoming. I have been back several times in the intervening years with my former roomate and very good friend Trevor Charlesworth, who now lives in Audlem, Crewe. The College has now been converted into attractive and I believe very expensive condominium units. Does anyone know if there is an official Old Boy Association still in existence? It certainly would be wonderful to keep people who loved this place in contact with one another.
Sun Feb 12 04:41:25 2006

Gordon Maloy, Sydney, Australia
I was at the College 60-64 and got my taste for raspberries from the Grdens. I used to get trout from the Chine and roses from the gradens and take them out to my parents in Bahrain for the summer hls. Will be back to visit the area later this year.
Wed Jan 4 07:04:20 2006

Cath McAdam nee Hobson (Runcorn, Cheshire)
My family moved into the house (the old dairy I think) just past the swimming pool, Christmas 1979. My mum had taken up post as the Catering Manager. Although we only stayed 12 months I have some very fond memories of Lindisfarne College and the pupils and staff. We were accepted into the family of the school and always included in activities that were going on. I was sad when I found out that the school had closed but I was shocked when I returned recently to visit the ground and found out that the house we used to live in had been renovated and was on the market for 1 million pounds! As I remember I think Michael Cochrane's mum used to run the tuck shop he was a very popular lad!
Tue Nov 22 14:35:51 2005

Tracey, Epsom
Can anyone tell me which year Wynnstay was sold to become the school? Trying to find details of someone who worked at the stables there during 1945.
Wed Nov 16 13:39:58 2005

Peter Linacre Rhode Island USA
I was a student 1950-1955, Edward Daws the headmaster. I have many memories of the good times and the good friends. I was in the Scouts with 'Geog" Jones, the ACF with Capt.Simpson and the Orchestra under Daws and Walklett. Would love to hear from anyone who remembers those times.
Mon Nov 14 03:57:12 2005

J. B. Roberts
For Richard Goring: a few years ago when the Lindisfarne College ceased to exist, the memorial stone was removed to Ruabon Parish Church. It was re-erected just within the churchyard near to the lych-gate.
Thu Nov 10 18:32:16 2005

Paul from West Sussex
My great-grandfather and his sister were born at Wynnstay. Their father, my 2xgreat grandfather, was a huntsman/groom for Sir Watkin Williams-Wynn from 1861-1881.
Tue Nov 8 16:00:08 2005

Laura-Elizabeth Wynn-Sealey, South Wales
Dear Sydney, I hope that you manage to see this, I came across this page quite by accident and don't know if the thread has expired. You say you were at Wynnstay in 1942; do you remember the baronet at the time? I doubt you do, due to him being based in London. He handed Wynnstay over to the War effort for the duration of the War while based in Whitehall, taking in many refugees. His given name was Robert Herbert Lloyd Watkin Williams-Wynn, which he absolutely abhored, and so everyone called him Johnny after a childhood incident I needn't go into. This wonderful man was my great-great uncle Johnny, and it dismays me that so many internet sites purporting a history of the family cannot get simple facts about this man straight. Does anyone have any information on him so I can see if I can correspond the dates I know and the dates stated in 'archives' etc. Also, I am seeking information on his Cousin and adoptive sister, Elizabeth-Ellen, to whom he offered 20 St James's Square, Wynnstay, and another house called Plas Y Dderwen. I would also be interested in hearing of the memories people have of Wynnstay after uncle Johnny sold it to become a school. Thank you very much, and I apologise this is so long! is also a certain tree on the grounds that I am seeking a photograph of, being unable to get to Wynnstay, taht is carved with names of various family members including my great grandmother and great great uncle. PS: There is also a certain tree on the grounds that I am seeking a photograph of, being unable to get to Wynnstay, that is carved with names of various family members including my great grandmother and great great uncle. For attention of Mr Threlfall: Please contact me for information on the gardens.
Sat Oct 15 11:52:42 2005

David Threlfall
I AM CURRENTLY WORKING AT THE ERLAS CENTRE WREXHAM ON THE SITE/GARDENS.HAS ANY ONE INFORMATION REGARDING THE OLD GARDENS AND HISTORY OF THE LAYOUT? THANK YOU.
Wed Sep 21 21:00:17 2005

Jacqueline Wynn-Jones, Chirk nr Wrexham
For Ed Sharkey and Allison Wright, my grandmother x 11 in 1570 was Elizabeth Wynn of Wynnstay Hall, Ruabon. Many of my dad's descendants worked for the Wynn family as gardeners, butlers, drivers and maids, not knowing they were descendants. It was not until my dad researched our family tree 8 years ago that history started to come together for us. My dad had many photographs, and was in the middle of researching more when he died suddenly, as we had no internet then all was done by going to local churches and history groups and local information. Please bear with me and I will email within 2-3 weeks. This will be very exciting for me as well as I hope to ask friends and look through many pages of his writings for you both.
Mon Aug 22 23:50:56 2005

Richard Goring, Southend-on-Sea
Before Lindisfarne College moved to Ruabon, it was at Westcliff-on-Sea in Essex. There was a war memorial listing those old boys who fell in both World Wars. This remained at Westcliff for many years, in the grounds of a local Anglican church, then around ten years ago it was suddenly moved to Ruabon, refurbished and set up in the school grounds. Does anyone have a list of the names? Was there ever a published roll of honour with details of the men and how they died? And what became of the memorial after the school closed?
Sun Aug 21 22:53:53 2005

Rob Seager - Leicester
Hi, I was at Lindisfarne in the 60s and also have the book written by Dorrie, it was given by him to each pupil when he retired.
Fri Aug 5 05:49:19 2005

Ayub Zumla (manchester)
Rob, An ex-Lindisfarnian Michael Cochrane (son of ex-housemaster the late Gerry Cochrane) has left me many college chronicles dating back to the 50s. I also have a book written by Mr Dawes! I was in touch last week with LR Jones (Headmaster from my time).
Mon Jul 18 19:09:26 2005

Ayub Zumla (Manchester)
Len, I know your son Carl. We were together at Lindisfarne .I have communicated with him in Zanzibar lately. Wonderful chap. I went to Wynnstay Hall on the weekend of the 9th July 2005. We had a reunion there. The college is still intact and many students from the 70s were present. Many luxury flats have sprung up inside the buildings but the site remains as serene and beautiful as ever! We then went to The Cross Foxes in Overton for dinner. Super place! We also run a college website. We have many pictures of Lindisfarne on the site. The chap who used to look after the mantainance at Wynnstay during my time sadly passed away but another chap still lives in Wrexham. He might be able to help regarding the Walls.
Mon Jul 18 19:03:37 2005

Len Salisbury
Hi Rob, my son was there from about 1970 until 1976-77. He now lives in Zanzibar and is the owner of an aviation and tour company. He is the Honorary Consul for the UK.
Mon Jul 18 07:06:06 2005

Alison Wright from Tavistock, Devon
My 3 x great grandfather, John Dawson, was Head Gardener at Wynnstay in the early 1800s. He and his wife Sarah had eleven children, the first born at Belan and the rest at Wynnstay Garden. I would be delighted to hear from any of their descendants!
Thu Jun 16 00:55:12 2005

Ed Sharkey, Burton upon Trent
I am a landscape architect researching the history of the walled garden at Wynnstay Hall. We are hoping to restore the old heated wall in the grounds and I would like to make contact with anyone who has any information about the site, particularly anyone who may have relations who worked in the gardens or who may have photographs of them.
Sun Jun 12 15:04:25 2005

Rob Seager
Hi Len, when was your son there?
Sun Apr 24 23:34:33 2005

Rob Seager
I was a pupil 1959 - 64. Daws was head followed by Carrington. A great school and wonderful location
Sun Mar 27 02:40:14 2005

Anton from Colorado.
I also attended Lindisfarne in the late 50s. Edward Daws was the Headmaster. I still have fond memories of the school and sadness that it had to close.
Fri Feb 25 15:28:44 2005

Len Salisbury Cefn Mawr and Camberley Surrey
Wynnstay Hall is the place that I think you mean in Wynnstay Park Ruabon. After the war it became a boarding school which was called Lindisfarne College and my son attended there when I was in the forces. He became deputy head boy. The college closed several years ago and the property was sold off for housing.
Sat Jan 22 07:44:40 2005

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