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Chris Steel
We have have seen the ghost ship, honestly. My friend and I were really shaken up by it. We happened to be walking late one night with our dogs and all of a sudden something caught my eye, something rising out of the water on the horizon. I turned around and my partner had already seen it and passed out. All I know it was wooden with big sails, it still puzzles me to me to this day as to what it could be.
Mon Oct 20 08:23:55 2008
Neil Hayden, Wirral
INTUIT, clever boy/girl, so everyone is imagining things? So explain the Sound and the Apparition of the Ghost Train I earlier posted about. Oh maybe the train was the Eurostar and its image was bouncing off puddles of Rainwater from Kent to Merseyside!
Thu Oct 16 10:16:50 2008
Intuit
What is reported as a 'Ghost Ship' is a well-known optical illusion: images of distant objects that are actually below the horizon, are observed to magically 'appear and disappear'. The phenomenon is another optical illusion - light that is bent by local climate conditions. Stories of supposed close-up encounters with ghost ships will require another explanation. But suffice it to say, the appearance of vanishing islands, mysterious disappearing ships and strange lights at sea are illusions. Since we are talking about illusions, its also QUITE useful to point out that many grouped 'sightings' or unusual sensory perceptions (feeling watched, seeing things out the corners of eyes, hearing footsteps) are also illusions, but in this case are associated with atypical nerve conduction. Look it up yourselves - these places sit over karst (limestone) formations, with running water full of dissolved minerals, overlying magnetically active geological formations. It sets up interesting weak electrical fields that act like 'batteries'. Individuals with oily acidic skin that is highly conductive will 'feel' cold drafts, mysterious touches, hear 'voices', echoing steps, see apparitions fleetingly, and feeling hyper-alert with apprehensive sensation of being 'watched'. In fact, many of these sensory illusions have been shown to be associated with unusual brain activity. The central nervous system is very sensitive to electric field affects. This may also explain the unusual EMF 'readings' pronounced by paranormal experts as being indicative of 'activity'. It's activity, but not what you're being led to believe.
Mon Oct 13 09:07:50 2008
Andy G. from USA
I've only experienced two encounters with "Ghost/Paranormal Ships". I believe the spirits are trying to contact their beloved ones, by appearing and disappearing in front of a humans point of view. My first encounter was in California. On the side of the beach, in the fog, I had seen either a great battleship that was used in the Midway war, or it could have been a foggy day in which a sailboat was anchored in the middle of the sea. I wouldn't talk about my other encounter, but as you can read Brian Mott's headline - "Please stay away from this Ghost Ship" - I would have to agree with you. The agony and terror on their faces, would scare the hell out of you. If my theory does not consult with any of this, please correct me.
Mon May 12 08:45:17 2008
Mansi Verma from India
I have read about the ghost ships. This is really very mysterious that how these ships with spirits sail in the vast oceans. They seem to have lost their way. This is unusual to me. I am very confused that if such ghost ships exist or not.
Mon Feb 18 10:43:48 2008
Donette Read Kruger
I believe but that is only because I have had several very different experiences, the most recent while visiting the ancient city of Great Zimbabwe in Oct 2006. Our tour guide had taken the group down to the Museum but I remained behind walking around on my own within those ancient granite walls when I realised I was being followed. I then noticed that on the other side of a low wall there were four young teenage boys with dreadlocks and, wearing only groin skins, crouched down and moving along on the other side of the wall to keeping up with me. My immediate reaction, unaware they were spirits, was to greet them and that is when I also noticed the long dry grass in which they were moving was bending over. When I looked back at them say "Hello" again, they were not there. And afterwards I realised there was no long grass either. I understand that ghosts do exist, but in another dimension and it is only when we are least expecting it we might have the privilege to see or experience their presence. I immediately left the Monument and went down to see our tour guide but was quite deflated when he told me I was not the only one to have seen ghosts at the Ancient City of Great Zimbabwe.
Mon Feb 18 10:43:13 2008
Carl Matthews from Bristol
It is extremely assumptive to conclude that inanimate objects cannot 'echo' back and appear as ghosts. How are the clothes that human ghosts/figures wear explained away? A ship, a car, a train, all contain human occupants and are just extensions of any incident involving people - if clothes can appear, why not anything else? As we know nothing about the why or what of 'ghosts', to state anything about them with certainty is just plain nonsense. In other words, those who quote 'facts' about ghosts get their information from where exactly? I suggest Michelle from Manchester has been on the malaria tablets herself!
Mon Feb 18 10:41:45 2008
Roger Braga
My father (deceased 1984) a career army soldier, told me that during WW2, a Royal Navy ship, during the night, passed by a ghost schooner. Men were seen working the rigging and on the decks. I don't know any more about this 'incident', or whether it was officially logged, but worth a thought anyway.
Mon Feb 18 10:41:18 2008
Passerby
Well, some people say ghost ships can't exist becuz they weren't alive to begin with. We call it 'ghost ships' but it may very well be 'haunted ships'. Just like haunted mansions or buildings...you can't bring them down as easily as the normal ones...things may happen from weird noise to casualties or even death.
Mon Feb 18 10:24:54 2008
Herman L. from Gy.
The first few comments were sound and yielded some information.
Mon Dec 3 11:05:42 2007
Richard Holland, Mold
Trains, planes and automobiles... yep, all can appear as ghosts. Ghosts aren't necessarily spirits of the dead - frankly, if they exist at all (and I believe they do), we simply don't know what they are. Playbacks from the past? Well, maybe. The phantom train of Birkenhead is very interesting but not the only one. Nor is the Abergele ship the only phantom ship, nor the Lincolnshire bomber the only phantom bomber. A huge World War 2 bomber, flying silently, was seen in Conwy some years ago and I believe there is a description of another ghostly plane elsewhere on this site. The one I'd like to learn more about is the ghost tractor, which comes trundling down the road south of Old Colwyn. Anyone heard of this very bizarre spook?
Wed Nov 21 10:21:35 2007
Neil Hayden from Bromborough
Anybody who knows Birkenhead will know that Green Lane Train Station is said to have a ghost train that passes through it, this I believe, as my dad used to work, long ago, on the trains, and both him and work mates frequently heard it, although in the early hours no trains would be running. Ghosts are real, and yes objects can be ghostly too. Ghosts cause illusions of objects usually associated with them, the reason being to make the sighting more believable, a form of identification if you like. I've seen and heard things before, but nothing concrete evidence, but my dad was no story teller. But something to think about: if there's no life after death, why do we continue to learn something new each day of our life, if we can't use the knowledge at the end? Ghost ship, Ghost train, Ghost cars etc...yes definitely possible.
Tue Nov 20 13:11:29 2007
Leanne from Abergele
I believe in ghosts, always have done. My grandad has seen that ship more than once. He said that everytime he saw it it was there and then it was gone, you blnk and it goes.
Sun Nov 18 16:47:43 2007
Chris from llanfyllin
In Staylittle and other camps, there has been rumours of a ghost called "The black nun" Original whereabouts is unknown.
Fri Sep 21 15:15:55 2007
Gaz ex-Abergele high
I ain't seen many random ships, granted a few that looked old after hanging round there with my friends for about 5-6 yrs. Ghost ships can happen, if you just think about it logically, ghosts are a person's energy, energy can be transferred into inanimate objects, like heat and electricity so why not a natural energy from humans? Science has no proof, but no disproof either, there's a lot of unexplained things and supernatural things are one of them, scientists should spend more time actually disproving or proving rather than sheer scepticism based on 'it's more likely that...' If ghosts don't exist then there's a lot more stuff out there that needs re-proving/explanations, eg the popularity of religion, and humans' natural ability to question or feel things that aren't normal. Also, why not have a ghost ship in Abergele? It's a town just like every other place, to people who live there it's just good old 'Gele, but to people who live in other places far away it's a foreign place. I don't see any reason why it can't happen or hasn't happened.
Mon Jul 9 09:44:52 2007
herstory
For those who do not believe in ghost, read your Bible - It is full of possessed people cured by Jesus and Jesus is a well documented historical icon. For those who do not believe, probably don't believe in Jesus either. Guess where that will get you?
Mon Apr 23 08:28:19 2007
Kelsey
I am a student, and I am doing a project on this ghost ship thing, but we didn't have to - we had to pick a paranormal thing so I picked a ghost ship, and I have been having trouble finding stories on them. Anyways, ghost ships are real, I don't think people would just make them up.
Thu Apr 12 08:05:03 2007
Shaun Chambers, Tamworth
I come from Tamworth to Abergele on holiday twice a year, and to me I think that we could be imagining these sightings of this supposed ghost ship. Don't get me wrong, I do believe in the supernatural myself, but while I am in Abergele, I have seen no sightings of this ship myself!
Mon Apr 2 14:31:55 2007
Nathan Whitworth Lincoln
Although I don't believe in ghosts or rather not till I see one, I have heard of stories in the past of ghosts other than humans. At RAF Wittering there is supposed to be a ghost of a WW2 bomber that crashes into the air traffic control tower. Now maybe it's true or not but I spent 8 yrs there at the Fire Station (next to the tower) and never saw a thing. I guess like everyone till you see it we won't believe it.
Tue Jan 16 08:36:25 2007
Si-Roy McKenzie, Scotland
A ghost ship is impossible - it was never alive so it can't die. A ghost is just the energy of a person that didn't go to the after life - a ship has no life, soul or anything so how the hell could it become a ghost? I bet you that you never did hear of time slips, that the past comes out to now and then goes back to where it came from.
Fri Jan 12 08:16:42 2007
Prof. John Colins, N. Wales.
Jodie, Belgrano, "Yeh right! Until I see it I won't believe you. Sure, ghosts are wicked but a ghost ship in Abergele? You wish! It's all just a big hoax."
Hi Jodie. Is it at all possible you could substantiate your claim as to this subject being nothing more than a hoax. My class have read your comments and would benefit greatly if you could quote some findings from your research so as to assist some of my more curious students. Thank you.
Thu Dec 21 08:50:31 2006
Morris
Does Dr Angelo M not have any hobbies then? 2 months searching for a ghost ship? I'm not saying I don't believe in it, but 2 months?! pfft.
Fri Oct 27 16:06:18 2006
David Patterson, Rhyl
I have seen a ship in the distance at Abergele/Pensarn beach. It didn't look like a ghost ship, it looked like a real ship, but it was out of place because it looked like an old galleon. I have also seen this ship, or a similar one just off Rhyl beach. I don't know if it's a ghost ship or not, but it was definitely out of place and on both instances it disappeared after a few seconds. I'm sure there is a logical explanation for it, but i am not the one to give it.
Mon Sep 25 08:45:07 2006
Michelle from Manchester
Why on earth would a inanimate object reappear as a ghost/spirit? Oooo watch out for that ghost bungalow! Ghost ship passing by your Navy vessel? My friend was in the Navy and he and the rest of the crew were given Navy issue tablets (I think they were to prevent malaria). The medication caused the crew to hallucinate and some of them even jumped overboard thinking that the ship was on fire. I have never seen a ghost, however I do get the odd strange feeling. I would like to say I don't believe in such things, but if that were true the subject wouldn't worry me so much. However it makes no sense to me that something that was never living could possibly come back as a ghost. I do agree that ships are creepy and I did take a rather convincing ghost picture onboard a ship a few years ago. I took a picture of the cabin where the bunks were, for no particular reason other than to remind myself where I stayed. After getting the pictures developed there was nothing of interest in any of them, then over time a figure appeared on the far wall, it looked like a sailor in a really old naval uniform. Whatever caused the figure it was very strange and I'm really annoyed with myself for losing the picture.
Mon Aug 7 08:12:08 2006
Darth_Vader_2006
A ghost ship is impossible it was never alive so it can't die. A ghost is just the energy of a person that didn't go to the after life - a ship has no life, soul or anything so how the hell could it become a ghost?
Mon Aug 7 08:04:44 2006
Drunken sailor from Cape town
Yarr... I've seen the flying dutchman couple years ago, when i was sailing around the Cape of Good Hope. It wasn't transparent like ghosts are normally described and it was real like you could've touched it. It had torn sails and there were bunch of people on it assumed to be the cursed crew of the flying dutchman. It sailed for an hour on the side of my sailingboat, and tried to morse to me, but ofcource knowing that responding brings certain doom I didn't respond at all. After about an hour of trying to message me something it changed course and faded to the mist.
Fri Jul 28 09:13:14 2006
Dave Hall
That seagull may have been tragically killed centuries ago in a surfing accident. This could well a photo of a restless gull spirit looking for revenge. So if you go there, don't wear your best clothes and keep your saveloy and chips covered up.
Mon Jun 19 10:30:53 2006
Sammie French
I am from Abergele and I have never seen it, I have lived there all my life and it has been made up.
Wed Jun 14 08:31:52 2006
Sian Llandudno
Ghosts don't just appear when you'd like them to. i thought someone with a degree would realise that Dr Angleo M, not all people come when they're called why should ghosts?
Wed Mar 1 22:13:19 2006
ciro from mumbai
I am a sailor and have never heard about this one, but some friends of mine have seen a burning ghost ship at the chaleur bay. I am not totally convinced by this so called 'ghost hunt'. Just blink your eyes very quickly at moving objects and you won't be so sure as to what you have seen. That's why 'ghosts' are never seen for long periods of time.
Sat Feb 18 17:47:47 2006
Craig, Abergele
I am an eye witness and saw that ghost ship. It looked like a galleon but straight away in like 7 seconds it disppeared into thin air and I was astonished (it could have been a ship from the spanish armada)
Tue Jan 31 21:56:17 2006
Dr Angelo M
what a load of rubbish, i spent 2 months in abergele studying the possibility of the ghost ship and my results where negative. come on colin milner from rhyl face facts the gele is home to nothing but seagulls!
Sun Dec 4 21:17:06 2005
Chris Johnson
I don't know if it's true but I can't prove it isn't so I like to hear stories like this one. Either way it makes you stop and think.
Fri Nov 18 18:51:21 2005
Barnabbas Danny from Malaysia
I think this story is real...I dunno but I think is...REAL ? He He He...Ghost...Ship...
Tue Sep 6 13:37:39 2005
Noelle Wood from South Africa
I think that the picture is just to show the location.Also they say that the ship appears and then disappears so it would be very difficult to get a picture of one, dont u think? and i think that we all know that is a bird in the photo:) i think that there could be such things as ghost ships, it would be very cool if there where, dont u think?
Sun Aug 28 12:27:35 2005
Sin, Plas Madoc
I cannot see anything on this picture but I've visited Abergele and never seen anything.
Sun Aug 21 14:20:17 2005
Colleen from Wisconsin
The ghosts of people usually have clothes and jewellery on, and many of them carry objects of one sort or another. Clothes, jewellery, and things carried by ghosts are all just as inanimate as ships, so why shouldn't there be ghost ships?
Sat Aug 13 09:51:20 2005
Don Lightbody from Nova Scotia
First off, I may be missing something here, but my impression of the above photo is that it was not meant to portray anything paranormal - rather just used to show the general location where the ghost vessel has been seen. Secondly, living here on the east coast of Canada, we have more than our share of ghost ships - a few of which are almost "regular" visitors, so I can definitely say that yes, I do believe in the existance of ghost ships. Although most scientists would have us believe otherwise, the laws of physics are NOT carved in stone.
Mon May 23 16:27:33 2005
Charlie
They are not real.
Sun May 15 11:14:35 2005
Lauren from Frodsham
Even i can see it is a bird. good story!!!!
Wed Apr 20 16:07:23 2005
sophie west midlands
i don't think this is anything interesting because of the picture. It looks like to me a reflection off the water. If you are going to put this on a website you can at least make it a convincing one
Sat Apr 9 22:43:10 2005
MM
It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the picture's supposed to be of the ship-- Are you guys certain that isn't just a clip of a gull on a small reef? I gathered the impression that the sightings were witness-account only.
Mon Mar 28 22:24:34 2005
IDWAL,
PEOPLE U NEED MORE SLEEP OR GO 2 SPECSAVERS! IT IS A SEAGUL OR A BIRD!
Wed Mar 2 09:52:07 2005
Dave Jones
Don't forget, people, there was once a village off the coast of Abergele and a forest so you may be seeing something?
Mon Dec 13 12:43:33 2004
Tom Myers
It can't be a ghost ship because ships aren't alive, they don't die and they certainly do not have souls. A more likely answer in my opinion would be that people are seeing an event imprinted in the atmosphere that happened long ago.
Mon Nov 29 10:25:57 2004
Bill, Birkenhead
Emma, that's a picture of a seagull standing on some rocks, if that was the picture of the ghost ship then I'm a ghost...
Thu Nov 18 15:38:34 2004
Emma, Llandudno
I don't believe in ghosts but this picture is very creepy I think I can see a face of a woman which could be the bow of the ship
Mon Oct 18 10:18:40 2004
Sharon, Bridgend
I wanted to hear from anyone with a ghost story to tell. Have you seen one or felt like you weren't alone? My friend Sam and I have our own website - Hauntings and Legends of Wales - and would love to add more tales of haunted Wales and I would especially love to have one about a ghost ship as I live very close to the coast myself. It's been good reading all your comments on here and I hope to hear from some of you soon. Feel free to mail us your spooky tales and pics.
Tue Aug 3 14:58:29 2004
Val from Preston
I have recently bought a static caravan in Towyn and often walk my dog on the beach at night. I shall keep an eye out for the Ghost Ship. If I spot anything I'll let you know!
Tue Jul 20 22:15:27 2004
Emily from Stoke on Trent
I go to Wales every year to stay down in my aunt's caravan. I've never heard of anything like this before.
Tue Jul 6 10:34:18 2004
Colin Milner, Rhyl
If you dismiss Abergele's ghost ship, then you must dismiss NESSIE! There are lots of ships off the coast of Abergele. One maybe a GHOST SHIP. But I don't see many NESSIES in the LOCH.
Sun May 30 19:11:04 2004
Ted
Come on people, get a dose of reality.
Fri Apr 9 19:36:52 2004
Brian Mott
I know that ghosts are tied directly to the ship and until their souls are put to rest they will continue to inhabit the ship and people will continue to see it. You are not seeing a mirage. You are seeing a world we would like to believe does not exist. Since there are so many sceptics out there that need to be scared out of their wits to believe in something like this, then I will only briefly say that I have firsthand experience with a ghost ship. I was in the Navy off the coast of Florida on the flight deck of the carrier and sundown. I saw the ship go right past me as I sat on the edge of the deck. I saw the people aboard a small vessel. Their faces were torn in agony and fear and almost pleading for help. Nobody else saw it. Nobody in the tower saw it only 100 yards off. I could not believe it and I was marked as "psychiatric". I was branded a lunatic. Lunacy was the whole feeling that emanated from the ship. Mark my words people. Stay far away from this "ghost ship". There is a price to pay for curiosity.
Thu Feb 12 00:31:59 2004
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