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Great Fire of 1758

A document from the Montgomeryshire Quarter Sessions rolls

Last updated: 03 August 2007

Retired history teacher Bryn Ellis from Welshpool is fascinated by Powys's past. He's been uncovering dusty documents dating back to the 18th century which throw light on the great fire of Llanfair Caereinion.

"I've always been interested in local history. Wherever I've lived, I've got involved in local history immediately because I always want to find out more about the place.

I'm now in the middle of a 4-5 year project aimed at transcribing all the documents contained in the Quarter Sessions rolls and order books which are kept in the Powys Archives. That means copying them all out thoroughly and creating an index of names, places and events which will eventually be published on CD.

A lot of the work is boring and the documents can be repetitive but you come across fantastically interesting documents such as documents relating to the great fire of Llanfair Caereinion of 1758.

Amongst the papers in the Quarter Sessions are about 20 documents which are lists of items each shopkeeper or housekeeper lost during the fire. They believed that if they made a full list with a valuation and submitted it to the Quarter Sessions, they could get permission to go to churches and to gentry and other leading people to ask for help and financial assistance.

There are about 20 of these documents. For example, there's one for the White Horse pub in Llanfair which obviously went on fire and the landlord lists everything that he claims to have lost. He says that he lost 30 pounds of steel which was burnt and damaged, a cart chain, a box of handkerchiefs, pins, boxes.

It's difficult to read these lists because they were fairly illiterate people. They were often Welsh-speaking with very little English and they were trying to write down for an English court - because the official language of the court was always English - in their best English, the items they'd lost. Many words are spelt in a 'Welshified' way of spelling an English word and they're very difficult to work out - for example scissors is spelt sisarus.

An account of the fire was also published in 'The London Chronicle' Sept 9-12, 1758: "We learn from Llanfair in Montgomeryshire that a terrible fire broke out at the house of one Edwards Jones, shoemaker, which entirely consumed it. The wind being high at the time, the fire raged and spread violently. It consumed besides ten family houses, seven shops and several barns, outhouses and the Market House. The steeple of the church being cased with wood also took fire and the church with great difficulty was preserved. The confusion among the inhabitants was very great as they had not the advantages of fire engines. Providentially no person was hurt but the loss of the inhabitants is very considerable."

There are other interesting documents in the Quarter Sessions rolls about law and order - about assaults and theft and people appearing before the court. The sentences ranged from a basic ordinary one like pinching from a shop where the punishment was whipping. Men and women would be stripped to the waist and whipped on market day for a couple of hours. The highest form of punishment was transportation. People would be kept in Montgomeryshire gaol until they were transported. Other punishments included fines or two years in prison perhaps.

I'm also very interested in family history and am preparing an index of names of all the people in these documents so that any family historian can look for ancestors - all you need is a person's name a and a place and a context for time. It's possible also to have an index of place names so anyone interested in Llanfair can pick out all the documents relating to Llanfair in the 18th century.

Most of this material and these documents have not been available because they've been in the rolls and unlisted. Nobody knew what was inside these rolls and volumes. Most of it has been hidden until now."

By Bryn Ellis from Welshpool



your comments

Janet Watkins (Nee Pickmere)
I am a direct descendent of J.R. Pickmere who lived at The Mount, Llanfair from about 1850 to 1875. He was the father of John Richard - 4 times mayor of Warrington,Ralph - my great grandfather who came to NZ in 1859 and grandfather of Edward Ralph Pickmere - town clerk, Liverpool who retired to the Mount, Llanfair with his wife Edith. Thanks to family correspondence and written details we have details of our family history back to 1200 but there are gaps we would like to fill!J.R Pickmere built the new home "The Mount" in 1873! We have Jennie Williams on the "tree" and would like to contact her to verify details!
Mon Aug 24 09:15:32 2009

Jennie Williams, Bradford
Hello Bryn, I have just submitted an entry on another page of this website! My mother's maiden name was Pickmere, and her grandfather, Edward Pickmere, lived at the Mount. We have photos of the Mount, including one of my older brother learning to walk in the 1950's. I would love to visit and see Llanfair for myself, and bring my husband with me!I understand that Edward Pickmere oversaw the works that provided Liverpool with water from Lake Vyrnwy - it would be good to see that too.
Wed Feb 27 10:08:29 2008

Michael Ingram
Hello Bryn I have traced my Ingram ancestry back to Llanfair in Montgomeryshire as far back as 1871. There was a Jane Ingram (born 1826) - widow - and her children Catherine (born 1860), a Charles Ingram (born 1863), Mary Ingram (born 1858. I am trying to find the name of Jane's husband who would have been my great great great grandfather. They live in the village Llanfair? I would appreciate any help.
Tue Nov 27 08:28:34 2007

Chuck Rhodes California Missouri USA
Hello Mr Ellis, I have traced my David Roberts and Mary Evans ancestry back to Llanfair-Caereinion where they married 15 Jan 1796. They emigrated to the USA shortly after marriage. I would appreciate any information that may be available.
Mon Nov 26 08:12:38 2007

Glynis Jones (nee PUTT) from Machynlleth
Hello Mr Ellis, do you remember me? I am now a headteacher in Birmingham, I have been in Birmingham since I left Machynlleth in 1971. I have just stumbled across your book and will make it a summer read.
Fri May 25 12:20:20 2007

Mary Manley, Milton Keynes
Hi Bryn, I have traced my Ellis ancestry back to Llanfair in Montgomeryshire. The furthest I have got back so far is John Ellis Carpenter born around 1811. Any information you have would be great.
Fri May 11 16:26:12 2007

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