In September 2007 Marilyn Waite from California has some information about William Kinsey, born in 1823.
Marilyn:"William may have been born in PA, but died in Illinois. However he married Pauline Wilson of New York. She was a Spiritualist. Searching for how where they met and married. Only clue I have is a poem written by her mother as they departed New York, so feel they must have married in NY. William died in 1852.
Also interested in the generation between David...1682 and who I believe is his grandson, Edmund, born in 1784. "
Larry James of Sacramento has some information about the arrival of the Radnorshire Quakers to the New World:
"The descendants of the Radnorshire Quakers have now reached their tenth generation in North America. This group of Welsh nonconformists were contacted by a man named Richard Davies who was an agent for Sir William Penn. Davies met with many Radnorshire Quakers in 1681 and sold to them "rights" to land in what would later become Pennsylvania. These rights were in the form of indentures to parcels of various sizes, usually not less than 100 acres, with accompanying lots within the City of Philadelphia proper. As is known Penn sought to establish a Welsh Barony amidst the colonies and included within Penn's indentures was the right to charge his Quaker constituents "quitrents" on the land they held based upon size, location and desirability. Penn chartered 23 various ships to shuttle his Welsh Quakers to the New World. The voyage lasted two months. Penn, himself, arrived on October 28, 1682. A waterfront park in downtown Philadelphia marks the point of his arrival. Its name is Penn's Landing. The Radnorshire Quakers who began arriving between 1681 and 1682 were forced to endure a very severe winter and took shelter among caves both natural and excavated. Upon their arrival the Radnorshire Quakers immediately made their way to a territory referred to as Radnor Township. They employed dead reckoning to claim land pursuant to the rights granted them in their indentures. Without an established government, the Society of Friends quickly assumed the responsibility of local governance in the absence of any organized body. Conflicts arrose amongst the Radnorshire Quakers in Radnor Township and by 1693, a local Quaker personality, Kevin Kieth began to challenge the leadership role of those leading the Quakers and their administration of the faith. A schism errupted and the Radnorshire Quakers were split in their allegiance. Much to the disappointment of those who followed him, Kieth himself soon abandoned the Society of Friends in its entirety and joined the Anglican Church. Many of the remnant used the occasion to become members of the Baptist denomination. Among those Radnorshire Quakers leading this movement were the families of Richard Miles and David James. By 1711 many Radnorshire Quakers residing in Radnor Township had established their own Baptist church, The Baptist Church in the Great Valley."
Ann Eagar from Blue Springs, Missouri in America is searching for information about her Quaker relatives:
"I am searching for any information on William Frampton (born about 1650, so he was a boy of 10-12 when the Quakers immigrate. He later was awarded land by Wm Penn, so he had some close connection to him. He is known as a large landholder in New York, associated with Oyster Bay, and later a landholder in Philadelphia, where he at one time owned the land where the public wharfs is now situated. Later he became one of the Registrars General of Pennsylvania under William Penn, and was Keeper of the Great Seal. He was married to Elizabeth Potter, and had 3 children: Elizabeth, Sarah and Thomas. He is my 10th great grandfather."
Mike Ashmore from Pennsylvania wants to share his knowledge:
"I am compiling considerable information about John Evans from Radnorshire to PA around 1695. I'm happy to share what I have.
Alan Jones from Darien in the USA has a question about a Quaker chapel in Radnor.
"At the Pales Quaker Chapel off Penybont Common Radnor, it says some of the congregation moved to Pennsylvania at request of W Penn and built a replica chapel close to Philadelphia. Anyone know where it is and anything about it"
Mal got in touch in February 2006 to say that he grew up near the Radnor PA neeting cited below and that he has Welsh ancestry in a Pugh line associated with that meeting.
Read his comments in full...
Robert Davies from Radnorshire Museum is undertaking some further research on this topic:
"I cannot directly answer your question but this information may help. I'm about to embark on a period of research on the Quakers who left Radnorshire for America and have found this site to be quite interesting:
www.quaker.org/radnor/radhist.html
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This is about the Radnor township set up by the Quakers in Pensylvania and mentions Mr Penn and the creation of a 'Welsh tract' of land for Quaker settlers."
Ted Davies got in touch after reading Alan's query:
"I don't know an answer to your question, but wanted to touch base with you since our research efforts might be similar. My family were Radnorshire Quakers who emigrated to the Philadelphia in 1754.
I think that I have read that the Radnor Monthly Meeting House in Philly was populated by the Radnorshire Quakers (certainly would make sense) so you might want to look into that. I would love to hear about your research sometime, maybe we can help each other."
Sally Thomason has also been researching her Quaker roots:
"I too have been trying to find information about Radnorshire ancestors. Mine were named John and Lydia Evans who were both born in Radnorshire and emigrated to Pennsylvania, but probably after the first group of Quakers of the 1850's, for the unauthenticated birth dates I have for them are in the 1670's with their son being born in Chester, PA in 1700.
A bit more information is that the Radnor, PA. website states that their township was settled by a group of 40 Quakers from Radnorshire, Wales in 1663-1665 and officially founded in 1682. Some of our ancestors may have moved beyond Philadelphia and been in that group."
Kinsey from Radnorshire wants to know if anyone else is doing similar research on one of the county's old Quaker families:
"I am curious if anyone else is researching the Kinsey line - from Radnorshire in 1600s - Quakers moving to Pennsylvania. David was the first of the documented line but it seems his ancestors were also from Radnorshire."
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Betty Webster from illinois
Looking to find info on John O. Davis BEF 1690
Thu Nov 5 17:16:19 2009
Alan Hall london England
i have a picture, drewing of a school don't no where it is. by josep nash my grate granddad work for him as a gardner at the red house
Sun Mar 29 18:09:46 2009
Laura McKinney from Rainier, OR
I come from James Pugh b. abt. 1665 Wales. On another site a person post that he came from Evan Lloyd AP Lewelyn 1330. I can't track the connection. Thanks, Laura
Thu Mar 12 10:54:20 2009
Joe Myers from Atlanta, Georgia
I am interested in finding out anything about a man named Methuselah Evans (ca. 1696-1779) who lived in New Britain, Pennsylvania and was a neighbor of Squire Boone in 1730 (he owned land in the area as early as 1722.) Methuselah Evans is buried in the cemetary at Montgomery County Baptist Church in Colmar, Pennsylvania. Methuselah Evans and his wife Ann had four children: (1)Rachel, b. Sept 13, 1745, died Oct 2, 1815, aged 70 yrs, 19days, married Christian Harner (2) David (3)Sarah Evans, b. July 31, 1749, died Aug 19, 1832 aged 83 yrs, 1 mo. 20 day, married Jos! eph Nash of Montgomery County, PA, and (4)John Evans died in 1809 in Davidson County, Tennessee prior to Aug 10. I am a descendent of Sarah Evans and Joseph Nash, whose sone Daniel was my great-great-grandfather. I am interested in finding out when Methuselah Evans came to Pennsylvania (or if he was perhaps born there) and who his parents were. I have more information on this Evans family.
Tue Feb 24 09:18:18 2009
Kathy Wilson Mainz
I'm interested in the reference to Pauling WIlson at the top of this listing. Her twin brother Jacob Miller Wilson has myGreatGreatgrandfather. I have fairly complete info on him, but I am loking for information on Pauline and Jabob's family.
Thu Feb 5 16:24:47 2009
Tom Smith, Upper Darby Pa USA
Yes, there is Penn's Landing" in Philadelphia, but Penn landed at renamed Chester.
Wed Oct 10 08:49:10 2007
Barbara
John Kinsey 1692 Will of: Edmond Bennett, September 24, 1692 Philadelphia Wills A. 210, yeoman, h/o Elizabeth Bennett, Overseers: John Kinsey, John Jones, John Otter. Witnesses: Thomas Roberts, Jane Austin, Theodore Roberts see Bucks Newtown see Philadelphia Monthly Meeting, Edmund Bennett? see Gwinideth, Gwinedeth, Gwynedd, Tredyffrin, Wayne, Glenhardie, William Bennett, Owen Roberts, John Roberts, Sarah Stevens Penna Phila.
Thu Jul 26 09:47:13 2007
Barbara
"Deed to the "Sabbath Keepers of the Seventh Day" dated 9 Day of Sept 1730 which Jayn Thomas nee Jane Rhytherach and her father Philip or grandfather signed by mark with Margaret Iddings and Richard Iddings which was recorded 19 JUN 1751. This was property granted to Grantee, Phillip Rhytherac,Yeoman, Henry Lewis, Yeoman, David Thomas, Yeoman, 13 JAN 1717. North side of Newton Road, corner of William Lewis land, then by residential part of Thomas Thomas, the wwitnesses were David Powell, William Thomas, Richard Iddings, the Grantor was by William Thomas, late deceased father of the said Thomas Thomas, purchased ! of William Woodand Thomas Worth, bearing date 13 Day of Sept 1692 Book H 8 page 102 Chester County Archives Pennsylvania see Baptist, Newtown, RadnorThe following are on a 1693 Tax List for Radnor, PennsylvaniaDavid EvanDavid MeridethEvan ProtheroHowell Jamesjohn EvansJohn EvansJohn JarmanJohn MorganJohn RichardMathew JonnsPhilip EvanRichard ArmesRichard MilesSamuel MilerStephan BevanThomas JohnsWilliam DavidWilliam DavisCaleb Evans on Tax List for Radnor 1718
Tue Jul 24 09:51:45 2007
Cindy Besser from Kansas City, MO
I have just recently found my connection to John Evans arrived in PA in 1695. Any information would be greatly appreciated. All I really have his Roger Evans Will.
Wed Jun 27 09:56:24 2007
Richard T. Williams Philadelphia, Pa.
I spent some time at a Seventh Day Advetist school called Pine Forge Academy,near Philadelphia. There is a manor house on the property built in 1720 by a "Keithian" Quaker named Thomas Rutter. My interest was fueled by the facts that he was an abolitionist (the manor house was a stop on the "underground railroad),he built Pennsylvania's first ironworks, and especially by the the fact that he upheld the seventh (7th.) day Sabbath! Does anybody out there have any more info about Sabbath keeping among Quakers.
Thu Mar 8 09:45:54 2007
Mike Ashmore from Chadds Ford, PA, USA
I am compiling considerable information about John Evans from Radnorshire to PA around 1695.I'm happy to share what I have.
Thu Sep 21 15:30:25 2006
Mal
I grew up near the Radnor PA Meeting cited above and have Welsh ancestry in a Pugh line associated with that Meeting. There seem to have been migrations of Welsh Quakers and Welsh Baptists around the same time to different "Welsh Tracts" around Philadelphia, and the first Quaker (Keithian Separatists) schism in the 1690's also resulted in some Welsh Quakers becoming Baptists.Read more of Mal's comments...
Tue Feb 21 11:19:47 2006
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