Autumn internationals as they happened

Commentary as Wales lose to South Africa and Ireland beat Samoa after wins for England and Scotland.

9 November 2013 Last updated at 20:31

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  1. 2006: 

    A good start for Joe Schmidt then, but an end for us. You can watch highlights of England's fitful win over Argentina at the top of this page, or perhaps take in a bit of Ireland v Australia in the rugby league over on some of our other BBC Sport pages.

    Thanks for your company and bye for now.

  2. 1958: 
    Ireland 40-9 Samoa

    Ireland coach Joe Schmidt speaking to BBC Northern Ireland: "It's a relief. We were a little untidy and made a lot more tackles than we should have had to and you can't afford to give away as much ball as we did.

    "We were pretty patchy. It was a super exercise. We got some mileage into their legs.

    "Paddy directed us around the field really well and he kicked at goal really well. We were a little bit wayward with some of our kicking game and we can't afford to do that next week. Australia will run the ball back at you and they will put us under pressure if we kick the ball badly.

    "We'll think about how we attack them. We were untidy and lacked cohesion but as an appetiser the victory tastes ok but the appearance on the plate wasn't so good."

  3. 1953: 
    Ireland 40-9 Samoa
    Jamie Heaslip

    Ireland captain Jamie Heaslip speaking to BBC Northern Ireland: "As a squad we took a small step in the right direction but there are a lot more that we have to take. We laid some good foundations, two guys got their first caps, Jack McGrath was man of the match on his debut and Dave [Kearney] scored two tries on his debut.

    "We've a lot to work on, fell off a lot of tackles, Our set-piece was good and we launched a lot off our scrum and line-out so that's a bonus but knowing [coach] Joe [Schmidt] we'll have a lot of work come Monday."

  4. 1950: 
    Ireland 40-9 Samoa

    Ireland prop Jack McGrath speaking to BBC Northern Ireland after his debut: "I thought we played well. They're a tough side to break down and our subs did well when they came on. We worked really hard in the week and set out a plan and it came out well.

    "They're dynamic boys and big strong lads but we just had to keep grinding them down and keep at them. All I can do is my best and it's up to the coach but I'm happy to play any role he give me."


    Andrew Preistley: Paddy Jackson has been fantastic for Ireland this evening. He's got bags of potential, bravery and he's only 21. A future star.

  6. 1944: 
    Ireland 40-9 Samoa

    Former Ireland coach Eddie O'Sullivan: "They got the job done in the end. They took advantage of the yellow card at the start of the second half and when the Samoans' heads dropped they took full advantage. They'd have to be happy with that result."

    FULL-TIME- Ireland 40-9 Samoa
  8. 78 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- Ireland 40-9 Samoa (Fergus McFadden)

    Samoa are pressing forward, but they are caught by a counter-punch as the ball is stripped and Ian Madigan recycles the ball and leads a charge upfield. Debutant Dave Kearney is the man left over as the tatters of the Samoa defence are eventually exposed. Paddy Jackson misses the extras.

    Martyn Williams, Former Wales captain and BBC Sport expertWales 15-24 South Africa

    "South Africa were a lot more clinical and it's just the same old story every Autumn, just coming up a little bit short."

  10. 1937: 

    England women completed a 40-20 win over their French counterparts earlier this afternoon at Twickeham.

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    Benjamin Andrew: Where's the fight for our country, the shirt, the dragon, the history? There's none! Very disappointing!

    Paul Blackaby: Surely time to give Hook a game at fly half. Gatland needs to grow up a bit with this silly grudge.

    Simon Trenchard: Will Wales ever beat a Southern Hemisphere team?

  12. 70 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- Ireland 35-9 Samoa (Fergus McFadden)

    Paddy Jackson is warming into that Ireland spot previously occupied by Ronan O'Gara very nicely. He switches the play to exploit an under-manned Samoa short side and put Fergus McFadden in in the corner. Another pinpoint conversion from Jackson follows.

    Jonathan Davies, Former Wales fly-half and BBC Sport expertWales 15-24 South Africa

    "All the stats were in Wales' favour but the biggest stat is three tries to nil. It was just at the times when they had momentum the intensity and pace they picked up and looked threatening and Wales didn't threaten their line."

  14. 1932: 
    Wales 15-24 South Africa
    Sam Warburton

    Wales captain Sam Warburton speaking to BBC Sport: "There's a massive amount of frustration. We didn't win and that's all that matters. There was belief that we could have won but it wasn't to be.

    "We were in control for 23 minutes of the second half and one loose pass and we were punished badly. Against the top sides you make a small mistake and you pay the price. There were two sloppy tries in the first half and that was the difference in the scoreboard.

    "They matched us up pretty well in our attack patterns and physically they were very good. We wanted to take that next step but they took their chances when they had to."

    Brian Moore, Former England hooker and BBC Sport expertWales 15-24 South Africa

    "After Wales had those three early injuries I thought they might disappear but they got back in the game and had enough ball and chances but South Africa were just much more effective."

    Wales 15-24 South Africa
    Jan de Villers

    South Africa captain Jan de Villiers speaking to BBC Sport: "They had possession but it's important what you do with it. We're not happy with the performance, it was a bit iffy, but we're happy with the win. We've got hard work to do before next week's game.

    "A lot was said before the game and we just said we needed to come out and perform. Wales are a quality side and it's always tough here."

  17. 65 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- Ireland 28-9 Samoa (Dave Kearney)

    Replacement Dave Kearney dives into the corner and gets the ball to ground just before sliding out into the dead ball area. Paddy Jackson lands a fine touchline conversion.

  18. 63 mins: 
    PENALTY- Ireland 21-9 Samoa (Kahn Fotuali'i)

    Northampton's Kahn Fotuali'i takes over the kicking duties and pots a relatively simple chance from just outside the Ireland 22.

    Bryn Palmer, BBC Sport at the Millenium Stadium

    "A valiant effort from Wales given the loss of three players to injury inside the the first half-hour, but they never seriously threatened to end their miserable run of defeats against the southern hemisphere's big three, which now extends to 17 Tests. South Africa were more powerful, more clinical, more intelligent in the key moments, and deserved their eighth win in a row in Cardiff."


    Dan Blakeley: It's just not happened for Wales...

    Dan: That whole 'put it in straight so hookers have to hook' rule. The one that's been around forever. That we care about now. Do we?

    Danny Till: Fourie Du Preez is just pure class. Looks like he was never away from international rugby.

    FULL-TIME- Wales 15-24 South Africa
  22. 79 mins: 
    Wales 15-24 South Africa

    A chance to break from deep as the field opens up on George North's wing, but the men inside him don't work out the numbers puzzle and the ball never reaches their main dangerman.

  23. 78 mins: 
    Wales 15-24 South Africa

    South Africa are finishing this on the front foot. They win a scrum against the head and only some hurried cover from Scott Williams prevents Bryan Habana getting on the end of his own chip ahead out wide.

  24. 76 mins: 
    MISSED DROP GOAL- Wales 15-24 South Africa

    That would have sealed it but Pat Lambie flops his drop-goal attempt wide of the uprights.

  25. 75 mins: 
    Wales 15-24 South Africa

    Ken Owens overthrows on his own 22 metre line and Fourie du Preez scoops it up at the back. Bradley Davies snatches the ball back but a forward pass concedes possession for Wales. Time is almost up for them with nine points to make up...

  26. 55 mins: 
    OUCH!- Ireland 21-6 Samoa

    Tusi Pisi and Brandon Vaalu are both forced off after the Samoan pair clashed heads in a heavy collision.

  27. 72 mins: 
    Wales 15-24 South Africa

    Tap and go. George North charges out wide, but is brought down short. The crowd roaring encouragement, but Francois Louw has pilfered possession and South Africa clear to survive unscathed.

  28. 70 mins: 
    Wales 15-24 South Africa

    The Springboks play themselves into a host of trouble. Two South Africans get in each other's way attempting to collect Pat Lambie's crossfield kick and Sam Warburton breaks upfield. Play swings across to the other wing, George North prods a kick down the line and Fourie du Preez gives away the penalty as he hangs on under pressure on his own line.


    Stephen in Hay-on-Wye on 81111 on text: Can you please explain why scrums are still so problematic? It's ruining watching a game. I used to play rugby and rarely had issues with the scrum. You couldn't push until the ball was put in and the ball had to be put in straight. It's so simple surely and so frustrating.

  30. 68 mins: 
    Wales 15-24 South Africa

    Gethin Jenkins and Coenraad Oosthuizen are back on the field after being sin-binned for their inability to keep the scrum off the deck. Fifteen a side once again.

    Brian Moore, Former England hooker and BBC Sport expertWales 15-24 South Africa

    "There was a fortuitous bounce but you have to credit the tactical acumen to spot where the space was. It was a lovely weighted kick and there was always the possibility of something like that happening. A masterful example of special awareness and a great chase."

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    Dave of Acton: Great South Africa try. Again. Full credit.

    Small Man Peaky: My friend's cousin plays for Grey College in Bloemfontein. Said the back rowers in their 1st XV weigh over 17 stone. Big boys.

    Dickie Allan: Ireland doing very nicely against Samoa!

  33. 64 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- Wales 15-24 South Africa (Fourie du Preez)

    That sound is the wind being knocked out of 80,000 Welshman. Bryan Habana makes a nuisance of himself under a high ball up near halfway and Fourie du Preez pounces on the loose ball, cleverly kicking into the space behind Leigh Halfpenny. It is a three-way footrace between Halfpenny, Rhys Priestland and Jaque Fourie and the Springbok is the winner, flicking a pass to Du Preez to stroll in. Pat Lambie adds the conversion.

    Martyn Williams, Former Wales captain and BBC Sport expertWales 15-17 South Africa

    "Since Morne Steyn went off, South Africa have just lost a little bit of shape and defensively Wales have just stepped it up a notch in the second half."

  35. 62 mins: 
    BIG HIT!

    Richard Hibbard rearranges Jacque Fourie's senses with a massive hit and that his final contribution before he is replaced by Ken Owens.

  36. 61 mins: 
    Wales 15-17 South Africa

    Pat Lambie, slotting in at fly-half, takes on a penalty chance from up near halfway but that has nowhere near enough legs on it. The home fans jeer as it drops short.


    Sasha Burgoyne: At home watching a really fantastic rugby game with a cup of tea. Come on Wales!

    Joe Lomax: It's a damn tough game. Love it when they're battling like this.

    Nick Mehta: Welsh fans booing Louw is embarrassing!

  38. 47 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- Ireland 21-6 Samoa (Sean O'Brien)

    Ireland open up a lead and it is a bit of conjuring for the old magician himself. Centre Brian O'Driscoll chases Paddy Jackson's kick and flicks the ball up between his legs to keep the play alive. Lovely stuff and, as Samoa run out of defenders, substitute Sean O'Brien burst over from 15 yards. Jackson knocked over the conversion.

    Brian Moore, Former England hooker and BBC Sport expertWales 15-17 South Africa

    "They were warned and didn't listen. There are people giving the referee stick but he isn't to blame with the scrum going down continually."

  40. 57 mins: 
    SIN BIN- Wales 15-17 South Africa

    Referee Alain Rolland is a man of his word. As the scrum goes down again, he does as promised and shows yellow to both of the props involved. Gethin Jenkins and replacement Coenraad Oosthuizen trot off and we go uncontested at the scrum.

  41. 41 mins: 
    KICK-OFF- Ireland 14-6 Samoa

    Back under way in Dublin..

  42. 56 mins: 
    Wales 15-17 South Africa

    Wales lead the possession stats by 72% to 28% in the second half so far. The game will restart with a South Africa scrum on the Wales 22.

    Brian Moore, Former England hooker and BBC Sport expertWales 15-17 South Africa

    "How many times have we mentioned George North? He can be a match-winner and they have to get him involved."

  44. 55 mins: 
    PENALTY- Wales 15-17 South Africa (Leigh Halfpenny)

    It is a two-point ball game as Leigh Halfpenny makes it five from five with another pearl of a strike. This is brewing up into a nail-biter.

  45. 54 mins: 
    Wales 12-17 South Africa

    Peep! Alain Rolland decides that Frans Malherbe is to blame when the scrum heads south yet again. Penalty to Wales and it is another kickable one for Leigh Halfpenny.

    Brian Moore, Former England hooker and BBC Sport expertWales 12-17 South Africa

    "Wales have to show the precision at critical times. They've made the breaks but the difference is that South Africa have converted their one.

    "If your saw a three to one advantage in breaks it would be reflected on the score-board but South Africa are the ones that have taken their chance."

  47. 52 mins: 
    Wales 12-17 South Africa
    Wales v South Africa

    Mike Phillips goes for a little surge round the fringes. It buys a few yards but when the ball is worked back it is Sam Warburton who is in at scrum-half. His pass is aimed at Dan Lydiate's shins and the ball spills forward to cough up possession again.

  48. 51 mins: 
    Wales 12-17 South Africa

    The South Africa rolling maul is a Sherman tank of a machine. They will be tempted to stick with it as well, as Pat Lambie is isolated out wide when they do spin it wide. Rhys Priestland nudges play up to half way from the penalty.

    Martyn Williams, Former Wales captain and BBC Sport expertWales 12-17 South Africa

    "Warren Gatland will be fairly happy. South Africa are making a lot of tackles. They're not the fittest side and Wales back themselves to come through in the last 20 minutes, Although they haven't scored it's a softening-up process."

  50. 49 mins: 
    Wales 12-17 South Africa

    Francois Louw is back into the fray from the sin bin for South Africa. But the momentum is definitely with Wales. Scott Williams slips the ball inside to Leigh Halfpenny, attempting to put the full-back into a hole in defence, but his pass is forward. Right idea though.

    Bryan Habana

    James Taylor: Definitely prefer to be watching than playing against South Africa. Absolutely brutal team.

    G Dawson: These Welsh boys have some fitness levels.

    Jason Langford: Feared for Wales in first 25mins. They have grown into the game. Can Hook unlock the Boks?

  52. 1842: 
    Ireland 14-6 Samoa

    BBC Sport's Conor MacNamara at Aviva Stadium: Peter O'Mahony scored his first ever international try after an impressive rolling maul. Paddy Jackson missed the conversion from out wide, but he has been successful with three other kicks. Samoa finished the half with 14 men after George Pisi was sent to the sin-bin for a tip-tackle.

    Ireland 14-6 Samoa

    Former Ireland coach Eddie O'Sullivan: "It's been a little bit scrappy overall. Ireland have kicked a lot of ball away and Samoa have run it back and been in possession a lot. Ireland have done well defensively and had good shape.

    "The ball's been in play a lot but there's been a lot of scrappy play."

    HALF-TIME- Ireland 14-6 Samoa
    PENALTY- Ireland 14-6 Samoa (Paddy Jackson)

    Samoa George Pisi is sent for a sit down after a tip-tackle on Tommy Bowe and Paddy Jackson kicks the subsequent penalty to send the hosts to half-time ahead on the scoreboard and the teamsheet.

  56. 43 mins: 
    Wales 12-17 South Africa

    Wasted by the hosts. The line-out ball is clean, but the South Africa defence holds the ball off the ground to secure a turnover.

  57. 42 mins: 
    Wales 12-17 South Africa

    Penalty Wales's way after Willem Alberts sticks his hands where they shouldn't be. Rhys Priestland boots up to the Boks's 22 and Wales have a chance to turn the screw...

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    Welsh Rugby Union: What a first half of rugby! Our lucky mascot will be cheering on Wales in the second half, will you?

  59. 41 mins: 
    KICK-OFF- Wales 12-17 South Africa

    Paul James is on in place of Scott Andrews for Wales. A replacement for a replacement. Mike Phillips clears the South Africa kick-off back up towards half-way with a decent kick.

    Wales 12-17 South Africa

    South Africa assistant coach Johann Van Graan speaking to BBC Sport: "We're never satisfied. We're disappointed with the discipline and we need to be more clinical but we're happy to be in front.

    "We need to make better decisions and hopefully go out and win this game. We're going to focus on our stuff and hopefully win this game."

  61. 1832: 
    Wales 12-17 South Africa

    The first five minutes of the second half, when Wales will still have a man's advantage before Francois Louw's sin-bin spell expires, could be crucial. The teams are jogging back onto the pitch.

  62. 36 mins: 
    Ireland 11-6 Samoa

    Tusi Pisi hits the upright with a penalty attempt as Samoa come on strong with the half-time whistle looming,


    Matthew Harris: I can't believe anyone's pretending that wasn't a yellow. Has elbowing someone repeatedly been added to the IRB rulebook?

    John Ballard: Great game of rugby, set up for a gripping second half.

    Mark P: Electric game, Wales v South Africa. Both teams smashing it up. The Welsh crowd might help Wales to clinch it.

    Jeremy Guscott, Former England centre and BBC Sport expertWales 12-17 South Africa

    "They really are living up to this billing. I was looking at some statistics before the match and South Africa are very efficient with their yardage. Wales carry a lot but don't make the line breaks and when they do they're just lacking a little bit of support.

    "The difference is when South Africa make those breaks, they score."

  65. 30 mins: 
    PENALTY- Ireland 11-6 Samoa (Tusi Pisi)

    Samoa are still clinging to the coattails of Ireland and Tusi Pisi moves them back within a converted score.

    Jonathan Davies, Former Wales fly-half and BBC Sport expertWales 12-17 South Africa

    "It was an immense first-half. In the first 20 minutes South Africa smashed into Wales. A couple of injuries disrupted the structure. South Africa have won a lot of turnovers and they've been far more clinical. Wales have done well to hang on in there and now the game has opened up James Hook's magic could be the difference."

    Bryn Palmer, BBC Sport at the Millenium Stadium

    "Collosal hits and brutal intensity in Cardiff and the body count is rising. With prop Adam Jones joining Jonathan Davies and Liam Williams on the sidelines inside the first half, it would be some achievement to rein in South Africa from here. But two Halfpenny penalties gave them sustenance and Francois Louw's elbow into Hibbard's face has really got the Welsh crowd fired up."

    HALF-TIME- Wales 12-17 South Africa
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    Matt Lee: What on earth was that? Clear red card, disgraceful behaviour from Louw, awful reffing from Rolland, poor TMOing for good measure.

    J: Never a yellow card - Hibbard knew exactly what he was doing in provoked him.

    Henry Nicholson: Alain Rolland is killing this game...

  70. 25 mins: 
    TRY- Ireland 11-3 Samoa (Peter O'Mahony)

    Peter O'Mahony, underneath a pile of green shirts, has grounded to convert a formidable rolling maul into five points. Paddy Jackson with just a sliver of goal to aim at misses with the conversion.

  71. 37 mins: 
    SIN BIN- Wales 12-17 South Africa

    The crowd are baying for action. Francois Louw has indulged in a bit of roughhouse tactics at the breakdown squeezing his forearm up into the face of Richard Hibbard. The former Bath man is convicted by video and Alain Rolland shows yellow. Perhaps a touch harsh, as it was more a shove than a punch.

    South Africa down to 14 men for the next 10 minutes playing time.

  72. 21 mins: 
    PENALTY- Ireland 6-3 Samoa (Paddy Jackson)

    Paddy Jackson puts Ireland back in front in a scrappy encounter.

  73. 33 mins: 
    PENALTY- Wales 12-17 South Africa (Leigh Halfpenny)

    Ashley Beck fly-hacks through after Jean de Villiers spills one off his shins and, although Bryan Habana is back to tidy up, the chase is good.

    Leigh Halfpenny is onto the tackle like a limpet. Penalty awarded and then converted with a superb touchline effort.

    Martyn Williams, Former Wales captain and BBC Sport expertWales 9-17 South Africa

    "It's a huge blow scrummage-wise. Scott Andrews will bring a lot around the park, similar to Gethin Jenkins but he'll have to do his bread and butter.

    "Losing Jonathan Davies and Adam Jones in the space of 30 minutes is a massive blow."

  75. 32 mins: 
    OUCH!- Wales 9-17 South Africa

    Adam Jones hobbling towards the touchline to be replaced in the front row by Scott Andrews. After Bradley Hore's knobbling of Bradley Davies in 2012 are Wales again going to have ifs, buts and maybes to ponder?

  76. 30 mins: 
    Wales 9-17 South Africa

    Wales stalled on the South Africa 22 metre line and they are gradually suffocated by the Springboks. After Leigh Halfpenny has taken the ball in at first receiver in an unlikely tactic, Alun-Wyn Jones spills the ball forward and the pressure dissipates.

  77. 29 mins: 
    Wales 9-17 South Africa

    Willem Alberts nabs the ball from Sam Warburton in the line-out, but Bradley Davies snaffles a turnover and storms through a gap. South Africa defence at sixes and sevens as Mike Phillips and Richard Hibbard take the ball on...

  78. 25 mins: 
    PENALTY- Wales 9-17 South Africa (Leigh Halfpenny)

    An important three points for Wales. That gives them a bit of stability after a rocky 15 minutes.

  79. 23 mins: 
    Wales 6-17 South Africa

    Rhys Priestland's finely judged kick is gathered by George North out wide and the big winger retains the ball in the tackle.

    Gethin Jenkins is prevented playing the ball as he hits up in midfield and Mike Phillips deliberately drops it to bring advantage to an immediate end and give Leigh Halfpenny a shot at goal.

    Brian Moore, Former England hooker and BBC Sport expertWales 6-17 South Africa

    "South Africa have been impressive in the simplicity of what they've done. It's all very basic but it's done with precision."

  81. 8 mins: 
    PENALTY- Ireland 3-3 Samoa (Tusi Pisi)

    Tusi Pisi levels things up with a penalty for Samoa.

  82. 1757: 

    England women lead France 26-6 at half-time of their meeting at Twickenham.

  83. 5 mins: 
    PENALTY- Ireland 3-0 Samoa (Paddy Jackson)

    Paddy Jackson punishes Samoa from the tee to open the scoring.

  84. 17 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- Wales 6-17 South Africa (Du Plessis)
    Bismarck Du Plessis

    Clinical from South Africa as Bismarck du Plessis throws long to Dwayne Vermeulen, loops round and flops over the Wales line once the collective grunt has sent the Wales pack backpedallling. Morne Steyn slots the extras.

  85. 15 mins: 
    BIG HIT!- Wales 6-10 South Africa

    Bradley Davies is driven backwards in the tackle by Willem Alberts and is left with a bloody mouth into the bargain. Morne Steyn kicks into the corner to put the Boks within striking range.

  86. 1 mins: 
    KICK-OFF- Ireland 0-0 Samoa

    We are under way in Dublin.


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    MarkScholefield: South Africa are just different class

    Sam: What a try! Brilliant break by Habana but shocking tackle by Williams though

    Wales 6-10 South Africa

    BBC Sport's Sonia McLaughlin: "If there was any confusion, Jonathan Davies has been permanently replaced, and he's close to tears on the bench. He looks to have injured his shoulder but Liam Williams is just being assessed to see if he is concussed after colliding with Bismarck Du Plessis."

  89. 13 mins: 
    OUCH!- Wales 6-10 South Africa

    Injury to insult for Wales as Jonathan Davies departs with a shoulder injury to be replaced by Ashley Beck in the centres. Liam Williams is taking time out as well as he assessed after a bang on the head. James Hook on in his place.

    Brian Moore, Former England hooker and BBC Sport expertWales 6-10 South Africa

    "That was a reward for ambition. They could have kicked for territory and Habana must have chuckled to himself when he saw Hibbard there. It's not always easy to finish those sorts of breaks because it requires patience.

    "It just shows what one single mis-match, a winger against a hooker, can result in."

  91. 11 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- Wales 6-10 South Africa (Jean de Villiers)
    Jean de Villiers

    A superb score from deep in their own half by South Africa. Bryan Habana finds himself opposite Richard Hibbard and swerves round the hooker before handing off George North. Bismarck du Plessis flattens Liam Williams before shipping the ball inside for Jean De Villiers who juggles and dots down. Morne Steyn kicks the extras.


    Jasper Chamberlain: What's up with the Millennium Stadium's pitch?

    Small Man Peaky: Awful pitch conditions could ruin any forward contest here. The Millennium ground staff need to change their system.

    Nick Mehta: That pitch is a disgrace... Has it been ploughed?

  93. 8 mins: 
    PENALTY- Wales 6-3 South Africa (Leigh Halfpenny)

    No mistake from Halfpenny and Wales lead once again.

  94. 7 mins: 
    Wales 3-3 South Africa

    Jonathan Davies makes the first full-bloodied line break, scampering between Jean de Villers and Jacque Fourie, but it is too good for his own side. He is hauled down by the cover with his support still a dot in the rear view mirrors.

    There are hands in a subsequent ruck through and Leigh Halfpenny will have the chance to put his side back in front...

    Brian Moore, Former England hooker and BBC Sport expertWales 3-3 South Africa

    "It couldn't get better for Wales as a start could it? That Wales management team will know that whenever Wales get an opportunity they'll need to convert most of them against a South African side that is likely to be doing that."

  96. 3 mins: 
    PENALTY- Wales 3-3 South Africa (Morne Steyne)

    There is going to be no mercy on those giving away penalties today. Morne Steyn levels things up with a massive boot after Bradley Davies is pinged for hanging on on the floor.

  97. 2 mins: 
    PENALTY- Wales 3-0 South Africa (Leigh Halfpenny)

    South Africa stray offside and there is no advantage coming from a crossfield kick aimed at Liam Williams by Rhys Priestland. Leigh Halfpenny steps up and, dead-eyed as usual, splits the sticks.

  98. 1 mins: 
    KICK-OFF- Wales 0-0 South Africa

    Up and running and Wales are straight on the front foot as Jonathan Davies worms his way through a half gap, taking advantage as the ball hits the deck to wrong foot the South Africa backline.

  99. 1731: 

    Now though, all eyes on Cardiff. Referee Alain Rolland gets the bird from the home crowd. The Irishman, of course, sent off Sam Warburton in the 2011 World Cup semi-final.


    Former Ireland coach Eddie O'Sulivan speaking to BBC Northern Ireland: "It will be nerve-wracking and Joe Schmidt will want to get off to a good start. This isn't as easy as people think. They're ranked above us, they've picked up some scalps over the last couple of years and they have nothing to lose so it's a tough one."

  101. 1732: 
    TEAM NEWS- Ireland v Samoa (1745 GMT)

    Ireland: 15-Rob Kearney; 14-Tommy Bowe, 13-Brian O'Driscoll, 12-Gordon D'Arcy, 11-Fergus McFadden; 10-Paddy Jackson, 9-Conor Murray; 1-Jack McGrath, 2-Rory Best, 3-Mike Ross; 4-Devin Toner, 5-Mike McCarthy; 6-Peter O'Mahony, 7-Chris Henry, 8-Jamie Heaslip.

    Replacements: 16-Sean Cronin, 17-Cian Healy, 18-Declan Fitzpatrick, 19-Paul O'Connell, 20-Sean O'Brien, 21-Eoin Reddan, 22-Ian Madigan, 23-Dave Kearney

    Samoa: 15-Faatoina Autagavaia; 14-Alapat Leiua, 13-George Pisi, 12-Johnny Leota, 11-Brando Vaalu; 10-Tusi Pisi, 9-Kahn Fotuali'i (capt); 1-Sakaria Taulafo, 2-Ole Avei, 3-Logovi'i Mulipola; 4-Faatiga Lemalu, 5-Teofilo Paulo; 6-Ofisa Treviranus, 7-Jack Lam, 8-Taiasina Tuifua.

    Replacements: 16-Tii Paulo, 17-Viliamu Afatia, 18-James Johnston, 19-Joe Tekori, 20-Alafoti Faosiliva, 21-Jeremy Su'a, 22-Isaia Tuifua, 23-Fautua Otto

  102. 1731: 
    Ireland v Samoa (1745 GMT)

    Over in Dublin, Ireland are going through their last preparations ahead of kick-off against Samoa. You can get live coverage of that one on BBC Two in Northern Irealand and on the Red Button elsewhere in the United Kingdom.


    G-Man: Come on Wales #autumninternationals #walesvsa

    Stewart Milligan: ‏Hearing bread of heaven really gets the adrenaline pumping for the autumn internationals...and I'm not even welsh

    Mike Roach: Top marks for John Inverdale for pronouncing "Gwahoddiad" properly


    Wales and Ospreys prop Ryan Bevington: Pleasure to meet William and have a chat #HeWasOnAStep

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    Bryn Palmer, BBC Sport at the Millenium Stadium

    "Archive footage of late, great Cliff Morgan has also been shown on the big screen amid a musical tribute to the former Wales fly-half and broadcasting legend. THAT Gareth Edwards try for Baa-Baas v NZ also getting a generous round of applause 40 years later."

  106. 1727: 
    TEAM NEWS- Wales v South Africa (1730 GMT)

    Wales: 15-Leigh Halfpenny, 14-George North, 13-Jonathan Davies, 12-Scott Williams, 11-Liam Williams, 10-Rhys Priestland, 9-Mike Phillips; 1-Gethin Jenkins, 2-Richard Hibbard, 3-Adam Jones, 4-Bradley Davies, 5-Alun Wyn Jones, 6-Dan Lydiate, 7-Sam Warburton (c), 8-Toby Faletau.

    Replacements: 16-Ken Owens, 17-Paul James, 18-Scott Andrews, 19-Luke Charteris, 20-Justin Tipuric, 21-Lloyd Williams, 22-James Hook, 23-Ashley Beck.

    South Africa: 15-Pat Lambie, 14-JP Pietersen, 13-Jaque Fourie, 12-Jean de Villiers, 11-Bryan Habana, 10-Morne Steyn, 9-Fourie du Preez; 1-Tendai Mtawarira, 2-Bismarck du Plessis, 3-Frans Malherbe, 4-Eben Etzebeth, 5-Flip van der Merwe, 6-Francois Louw, 7-Willem Alberts, 8-Duane Vermeulen.

    Replacements: 16-Adriaan Strauss, 17-Gurthro Steenkamp, 18-Coenie Oosthuizen, 19-Peter-Steph du Toit, 20-Siya Kolisi, 21-Ruan Pienaar, 22-JJ Engelbrecht, 23-Willie le Roux.

  107. 1726: 

    Sam Warburton leads Wales out into a whirlwind of noise, the crowd baying already for kick-off. But first they are called to silence after Warburton and counterpart Jean de Villiers lay wreaths ahead of Remembrance Sunday.

    Jeremy Guscott, Former England centre and BBC Sport expert

    "South Africa have got an all-court game now. The number eight Duane Vermeulen is one of the best in the world and him and Willem Alberts are like two bouncers going around just causing havoc everywhere.

    "If the pitch is cutting up they'll go safe and the scrum will be a mess and that would be a shame because that's contest we want to see. The South African scrum is huge but if they can get stopped there it would show how up for it Wales are this evening."

    Jonathan Davies, Former Wales fly-half and BBC Sport expert

    The record's not good against the southern hemisphere sides. They've not been clinical enough and not good enough on the day. It's different to the Six nations and when you come up against the better sides you need to raise your game."

    Bryn Palmer, BBC Sport at the Millenium Stadium

    "The groundstaff are out with forks trying to repair the Millenium Stadium turf 15 minutes before kick-off. There is every chance it will scuff up under the weight of the scrums, given recent rain and the Rugby League World Cup matches here."

  111. 1722: 
    South Africa training

    You know that South Africa must be be a team of tough men, when they can straight-facedly wear visors for training. I think that Percy Montgomery might have been the trailblazer on that one.

    Bryn Palmer, BBC Sport at the Millenium Stadium

    "For all the optimism emanating from the home camp, it is going to take a performance that Wales have rarely looked like producing at the start of an autumn series to see off the Springboks. The Boks have shown a more enlightened approach in recent times under Heyneke Mayer, scoring 23 tries in their six Rugby Championship games. But brute force remains their calling card, and Wales will need to stop punishing ball-carriers like Willem Alberts and Duane Vermeulen at source if they are to have any hope of prevailing."

  113. 1716: 

    Wales coach Warren Gatland, speaking to BBC Sport: "It's nice to be back. It feels like less pressure but it's a big step up against South Africa. We've trained well and we're looking forward to it.

    "The last two weeks we've talked about expectation and winning and that maybe hasn't always been the language in the past. We've done well in the Six Nations and the next step is trying to dominate the southern hemisphere sides."

  114. 1716: 

    The Springboks have reinforced a side that conceded five tries in the Rugby Championship decider against New Zealand with the teak-tough centre Jacque Fourie.

    How he and Jean de Villiers measure up to Scott Williams and Jonathan Davies may be key this evening.

    Jeremy Guscott, Former England centre and BBC Sport expert

    "South Africa have really developed. They were so one-dimensional but they've matured. Get the ball out to Morne Steyn and they've opened up their game. They are very dangerous."

    Martyn Williams, Former Wales captain and BBC Sport expert

    "It's a cliche but it starts up front and you know what's coming with South Africa. It's no rocket science but I think that suits the Wales gameplan.

    "We've come close and not quite got over the line but this is as confident as I've seen the Welsh camp in a long time."

  117. 1710: 

    After a British and Irish Lions side packed with Welshman and lead by Warren Gatland overcame Australia in the third and final Test in the summer, there is bullish talk that Wales can do something similar to the Boks this afternoon.

    Shaun Edwards, left behind by Gatland over the summer, has cooled the jets a little, saying that this South Africa side is the best since the class of 2009 claimed a series win of their own over the British and Irish Lions,

    Bryn Palmer, BBC Sport at the Millenium Stadium

    "South Wales had a soaking overnight but the rain had already receded hours before kick-off even without the roof being closed to keep the Millennium Stadium pitch primed for what should be a heavyweight slug-fest. Wales haven't beaten the Boks since the first game at this great sporting arena in 1999, their only victory in 26 contests over the last 107 years. But with nine of the Lions that won the series in Sydney four months ago in their side, hopes are high among the Welsh faithful that renewed confidence and self-belief could see the Six Nations champions end a 16-match losing streak against the southern hemisphere's big three."

  119. 1702: 

    So attention swings from London and Edinburgh to Cardiff and Dublin.

    The last time Wales hosted South Africa, back in 2010, George North was a fresh-faced teenager, who had played just half a dozen competitive regional matches. Eighty minutes and two tries later, he had announced himself to a world stage. He hasn't shifted from it since.

    Coverage of the two teams' reunion has just started on BBC Two.


    Official RFU: @ChrisRobshaw lifts the match trophy. England 31 Argentina 12. #ENGvARG #CarryThemHome

    England with the match trophy
  121. 1650: 
    England 31-12 Argentina

    England coach Stuart Lancaster speaking to Sky Sports: "We went in at half time 24-6 and the first half in total was pleasing. There were one or two areas we didn't quite get right. Second half, we were a bit loose and it wasn't good enough overall. But I would have taken that scoreline this morning.

    "We've got to get that consistency for 80 minutes. Our intent was good and our accuracy was good and that fell away in the second half. Overall there were plenty of positives."


    James Humberstone: It's time for Ashton to be dropped.

    Dan: Ashton does not deserve to be wearing an England jersey

  123. 1640: 
    England 31-12 Argentina

    England hooker Dylan Hartley speaking to Sky Sports: "It was a forward-orientated battle in the first half. At the set-piece they came after us but we put them under a load of pressure early on and really happy with the forwards' performance.

    "Courtney Lawes came into his own with his line-out calling. His ability was outstanding. I just wanted to come in and do my role, my job.

    "Argentina are a class side. We've seen how they've come on in the Championship and they weren't going to roll over and we saw that until the very end.

    "We set ourselves a few challenges and now this is ticked off we can go into New Zealand with momentum and confidence and if we can win we can go second in the world."

  124. 1639: 

    Just about to start on the Twickenham turf, England women take on France with the legendary Maggie Alphonsi back from injury to make her first international appearance in 20 months.

    You can listen to live commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra.

  125. 1634: 
    England 31-12 Argentina

    Argentina captain Juan Manuel Leguizamon speaking to Sky Sports: "The first half was bad for us, we couldn't handle the ball and couldn't put on the pitch what we'd done in the week and that happens.

    "We talked at half time and said we should go out and show some character and personality and we did it. We still have a lot of work to do. We thought in the second half we could win it. We put pressure on England."


    Scotland Rugby Team: Two of today's try scorers! Well done boys!

    Two of Scotland's try scorers

    Lewis Asquith: People can criticise them all they like but a win is a win and that's 2 #Rugby Championship teams taken out now by @Official_RFU

    Matthew Harris: Thank God England remembered to play in the second half, it stopped every journalist and commentator in Britain from crying

  127. 1633: 
    England 31-12 Argentina

    Chris Robshaw has just been called up to lift a trophy that looks like GCSE craft and design project, and one worth a 'D' at best. A big chunky triangle with a St Georges flag rugby ball in the middle, it looks like it weighs more than a tighthead prop as well.

  128. 1630: 
    England 31-12 Argentina

    England captain Chris Robshaw speaking to Sky Sports: "We came out all guns blazing and got off to a flying start with a couple of tries. Unfortunately Argentina had a bit more impetus in the second half and put us under a lot more pressure

    "We need to look at ourselves going into next week and make sure we're switched on and ready to play. We're looking forward to it. We'll focus and we'll get it sorted.

    "New Zealand is always a tough challenge. We've had two tough tests and come through them with positives and areas to work on."

  129. 1626:  
    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 31-12 Argentina

    "We've seen him light this place up but at the moment Chris Ashton is simply not up to it and he's not up to playing against the All Blacks. It sounds harsh but England do have options on the wing. He's just trying too hard. You have to have sympathy for him because it's a lonely place when you're making mistakes in front of 80,000 people."

    Chris Ashton

    Adam: Another good performance from England, especially in the first half. Centres and wingers still nowhere near world class though.

    Jenna Taylor: Well done Scotland rugby team !! #goodgame

    RFU: Classy touch from @owen_faz. Letting @tobyflood take the kick, the Leicester man now has more than 300 points for England #history

    Ben Dirs, BBC Sport at Twickenham

    "As is often the case with England, it is difficult to know what to make of that. Before the break it appeared as if they had learned the lessons of last week and upped their game - dynamic at the breakdown, quick ball, attacking ambition. After the break it was as if their memories had been erased in the changing room. There will be an awful lot of chop-licking over in New Zealand."

  132. 1624: 

    England were excellent in the first half. Fortunate, because the second half was miserable viewing. At the very least this match should help Stuart Lancaster hone his first choice XV.

    Dylan Hartley over Tom Youngs and Lee Dickson over Danny Care would seem simple decisions for the All Blacks Test.

    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 31-12 Argentina

    "Of course there's a chance against the All Blacks. They put them away no problem 12 months ago and did play the best we've seen at Twickenham but they'll need to be right up there, step up and they've got a lot of work to do in the week.

    "Sometimes when you don't play well enough you have that week to focus and you step up the week after."

    Andy Nicol, Former Scotland scrum-half and BBC Sport expertScotland 42-17 Japan

    "As an 80-minute performance it's a very good start to the Autumn series for Scotland. It's been a good game. Japan contributed enormously with two well-taken tries and they're a better team than I can remember.

    "Scotland will be quite happy. Six tries, they have to dig deep after the first half. There are a lot of good players putting their hand up for selection."

    FULL-TIME- England 31-12 Argentina
    FULL-TIME- Scotland 42-17 Japan
  137. 78 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY (Ben Morgan)- England 31-12 Argentina

    Ben Morgan picks a peach of a line, blasting through Santiago Cordero's attempted tackle and barrelling over the line to lift the second-half gloom. Toby Flood chips over the conversion and the crowd break out a chorus of Swing Low.

  138. 78 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- Scotland 42-17 Japan (Lamont)

    Despite a tug on his shirt on the way through Sean Lamont pounces on a kick over the top by Henry Pyrgos to add some sheen to the scoreline. Duncan Weir with the conversion.

  139. 74 mins: 
    England 24-12 Argentina

    A revealing stat pops up from the number-crunchers. Possession has been 34%:66% in Argentina's favour in the second half.


    Scotland Rugby Team: The try is good. Come on Scotland!

    Andrew Priestley: England have gone to sleep in this second half. Argentina coming back into things. Complete opposite of last week's performance.

  141. 73 mins: 
    MISSED PENALTY- England 24-12 Argentina

    Santiago Cordero almost bursts though a hole in the England defence, with Ben Morgan's outstretched arm only just dislodging the ball. Tom Wood infringes as he attempts to clear up.

    Argentina still opting for the pot at goal rather than running the ball, but Marcelo Bosch is wide with that one.

  142. 70 mins: 
    England 24-12 Argentina

    Tom Youngs is not benefitting from comparison with Dylan Hartley. He sends a line-out throw sailing over the back and England are under pressure inside their own half once again.

  143. 68 mins: 
    England 24-12 Argentina

    Toby Flood immediately adds a little craft to the England back line, jinking and finding some space before the blue wall descends. But Argentina are probing up near the England 22m line. A powerful set of forward phases ends with the ball spilled forward.

    Fortunate for England. A converted score would make this a frantic last 10 that you would not have predicted.

    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 24-12 Argentina

    "I can understand why they've brought Toby Flood on, to bring some creativity. Dylan Hartley's been good around the break down, good in the line-out good in the scrum and he's certainly made a case for next week, as has David Wilson.

    "It's slow and deliberate and the messages aren't getting on because the pace is what is going to kill this game. They're just being precise but Argentina can defend against that.

    "The big teams, South Africa, New Zealand and Wales, when they get 10 yards from the opposition line, their strike rate is phenomenal, and particularly in the second half, England have been poor.

    "Stuart Lancaster would never say this publicly but he must be concerned about this midfield. A quality midfield would be ripping this Argentina apart, blitzing them."

  145. 68 mins: 
    TRY (Duncan Weir)- Scotland 35-17 Japan

    The game is surely safe now for Scotland. It is a little streaky, but they all count five. Sean Maitland's shovel infield finds Duncan Weir's hands via those of a Japan defender before the replacement dives over.

  146. 62 mins: 
    REPLACEMENT- England 24-12 Argentina

    Stuart Lancaster makes a change, bringing on Toby Flood for Billy Twelvetrees. He has got a chance to shake it up a bit from inside centre. Leicester team-mates Tom Youngs and Dan Cole are also thrown into the mix.

    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 24-12

    "After 30 minutes Argentina were dead on their feet but now England are playing a slow, laborious game that's playing right into Argentina's hands."

  148. 64 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY (Alasdair Dickinson)- Scotland 30-17 Japan

    Scotland make the man advantage pay as Ruaridh Jackson pops the ball into the hands of a charging Alasdair Dickinson to cross under the posts. Greig Laidlaw adds the easy extras.

  149. 60 mins: 
    England 24-12 Argentina

    The atmosphere is flat as day-old bitter at Twickenham. This second half has been disjointed bits and pieces. Nothing for the crowd to get their teeth into.

  150. 58 mins: 
    MISSED PENALTY- England 24-12 Argentina

    Owen Farrell' s radar is a little askew as his attempt from distance and a tricky angle brushes the wrong side of the upright.

  151. 60 mins: 
    SIN BIN- Scotland 23-17 Japan

    Number eight Ryu Koliniasi Holani picks up a yellow card for Japan for not releasing. That could hit his side's chances of a late rally.

    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 24-12 Argentina

    "I don't mean this to sound like I'm pointing the finger at Danny Care but having played in that position you have that responsibility and I'm trying to see who is communicating. It's been a terrible three or four minutes of play. The second half is about processes and getting them right because they are going to win."


    RFU: David Beckham & family enjoying the game today at HQ. Good to see him in an England rugby shirt. #CarryThemHome

    David Beckham and his sons watching England at Twickenham

    Good, or just a bit bizarre?

  154. 56 mins: 
    PENALTY (Nicolas Sanchez)- England 24-12 Argentina

    Nicolas Sanchez makes it three out of three from the tee with an immaculate strike. England need to regain a bit of rhythm,

  155. 54 mins: 
    England 24-9 Argentina

    England have been bubbling under the standard they set in the first half so far after the break. Danny Care is on for Lee Dickson at scrum-half.

  156. 55 mins: 
    TRY- Scotland 23-17 Japan

    Alistair Kelloch takes well in the line-out and from the clean ball Ruaridh Jackson spins the miss pass wide for Tommy Seymour to skid in at the corner. Breathing space for the hosts.

  157. 52 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY (Kenki Fukuoka)- Scotland 18-17 Japan

    A complete team try. The Japan pack bulldoze a scrum to steal the ball against the head and when it is spun out Japan full-back Ayumu Goromaru cruises through a midfield gap back. He is hauled down short, but Kenki Fukuoka picks and goes the final three yards. Coversion from Goromaru.

  158. 45 mins: 
    PENALTY (Nicolas Sanchez)- England 24-9 Argentina

    An Argentine rolling maul draws the England infringement. Nicolas Sanchez puts up the bomb with the free ball, Mike Brown claims it superbly, but it is to no avail. There has been no advantage and Sanchez steps up to clip the penalty over. First blood in the second half for Argentina.

    Andy Nicol, Former Scotland scrum-half and BBC Sport expertScotland 18-10 Japan

    "That was the response Scott Johnson would have wanted. They didn't do a lot wrong for Japan's try but that was the perfect scrum-half's try from Greig Laidlaw."


    Mark Schumann: Excellent first half. Great atmosphere here at Twickenham. #carrythemhome

    Mike: Keep it up, England! We started losing momentum at the end of the half.

    James Standen: Wants to see England really kick up a gear this half.

  161. 46 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY (Greig Laidlaw)- Scotland 18-10 Japan

    Scotland pound away and eventually, after 22 phases there is a chink of light for Greig Laidlaw to dive through. He adds another two with a solid touchline conversion.

  162. 45 mins: 
    Scotland 11-10 Japan

    Scotland attack coach Duncan Hodge speaking to BBC Scotland: "In attack we've got to be quicker to the ball carrier. It's not easy on the pitch, there's rustiness and it's the first game in a while but we've dropped too many and we need to get quicker to that tackle area and get quicker ball.

    "There have been mistakes and we need to improve on the defence as well."

    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 24-6 Argentina

    "There have been plenty of positives. The forwards have been dominant and the defence magnificent. I just want to see this England backline with so much decent possession rip into the opposition and score some quality tries."

  164. 44 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY (Kenki Fukuoka)- Scotland 11-10 Japan

    Nice, real nice. Japan captain Toshaki Hirose makes the initial break before his team flip the ball sweetly through the hands to Kenki Fukuoka on the opposite wing to canter in. Ayumu Goromaru kicks the conversion.

  165. 1533: 
    KICK-OFF- England 24-6 Argentina

    Owen Farrell kicks us off.

  166. 1532: 
    SUBSTITUTION- England 24-6 Argentina

    England bring on Alex Corbisiero in place of Joe Marler.

  167. 1531: 
    KICK-OFF- Scotland 11-3 Japan

    Back under way in Edinburgh.

  168. 1529: 
    Scotland 11-3 Japan

    Former Scotland forward Doddie Weir speaking to BBC Scotland: "Scotland are making inroads. It has been a Japanese side defending well but Scotland are switching, forwards are popping up all over the place and they're being patient but it's just that last phase when the ball is going to ground and they're not taking the opportunities.

    "It took 30-odd minutes for that try and there were opportunities before them and it was great for Tommy Seymour to score on his home debut."

  169. 1528: 
    Doddie Weir

    What. A. Suit. Doddie Weir ensures Scotland are winners in the fashion stakes.

  170. 1527: 
    Scotland 11-3 Japan

    Injured Scotland winger Tim Visser speaking to BBC Scotland: "It's been tough. Japan have been physical, played the phases and been good on the error count. We can't complain. We've made some yardage and hopefully it will lead to some more tries in the second half.

    "We're doing the right things and if we keep doing that Japan will weaken."

  171. 1527: 
    Scotland 11-3 Japan
    Scotland v Japan

    Japan are far from the Test fodder that were walloped 145-17 by New Zealand back in the 1995 World Cup. It is a key growth area for the sport, and their hosting the 2019 World Cup will drive that on.

    Ben Dirs, BBC Sport at TwickenhamEngland 24-6 Argentina

    "Signs from England that they have stepped it up somewhat since last week's stuttering display against Australia. Argentina simply can't get hold of the ball, and England are turning their overwhelming possession into points. And, more importantly, excitement."

    Scotland 11-3 Japan

    Former Scotland captain Chris Paterson speaking to BBC Scotland: "Scotland got better as the half wore on but the Japanese were combative and quick and got in behind once or twice.

    "Scotland settled and it was good try for Tommy Seymour after a good build-up that showed how hard they are to break down."

  174. 1521: 
    England 24-6 Argentina
    Owen Farrell

    While Owen Farrell has marshalled his troops well, he has been given an armchair ride by his forwards. Plenty of quick ball and then big and bulky options off either shoulder when it is delivered up to him.

    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 24-6 Argentina

    "I would get as many subs on as soon as possible and give them the air time. England aren't going to lose this game and they're dominant. If Stuart Lancaster wants to see if any of these players are ready to face the All Blacks next week, Parling, Corbisiero have to get some game time."

  176. 1518: 
    HALF-TIME- Scotland 11-3 Japan
  177. 1518: 
    HALF-TIME- England 24-6 Argentina
  178. 38 mins: 
    DISALLOWED TRY- Scotland 11-3 Japan

    Scotland's Sean Lamont punches a hole and is over between the sticks, but it looks like he has had a little help from his friends. The referee calls the play back for an obstruction that cleared the way.


    Tadhg Peavoy: Hugely impressive opening half from the England pack. Power.

    Official RFU: ENG have had 63% possession and 70% territory so far and it's telling on the scoreboard.

    Jenna Taylor: Keep up the good work scotland #backingblue

  180. 36 mins: 
    PENALTY (Ayumu Goromaru)- Scotland 11-3 Japan

    Ayumu Goromaru gets the Brave Blossoms on the board.

    Ben Dirs, BBC Sport at Twickenham

    "Nice to hear the Twickenham crowd making some impression on the game - that will only happen when England give them something to make noise about. A win on its own isn't necessarily enough when you're paying serious money to watch, which is the case nowadays."

    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 24-6 Argentina

    "That was some fabulous decision-making from Owen Farrell. There was no chance of Chris Ashton missing that. Argentina are off their feet at the moment and England just look hungry.

    "England just need to keep the ball. If they can go through the phases, Argentina are getting narrow and they're running out of players. England just need to be patient.

    "Patience is such an easy word to use but it can be pivotal in a game like this where you're just grinding the opposition down."

  183. 33 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- England 24-6 Argentina (Chris Ashton)

    Chris Ashton almost contrives to produce a union version of Sonny Bill Williams league dead-ball gaffe, but manages to ground the ball just in time as he skids through the tryline and just keeps going as he outpaces Santiago Cordero into the corner. Good work by Chris Robshaw and Dylan Hartley in the build-up and Owen Farrell adds two more.

  184. 31 mins: 
    England 17-6 Argentina

    England are monopolising possession. It is like a training run at times at Twickenham. Mike Brown's attempt to poke a grubber in behind the Argentina defence is blocked, but goes into touch off a blue leg to give it straight back to the hosts.

    Andy Nicol, Former Scotland scrum-half and BBC Sport expertScotland 11-0 Japan

    "That really was a team score, phase after phase and really impressive play for Scotland. They didn't panic, it was fast ball and they kept it going forward.

    "Until that point the Japan defence had been really impressive with quick line speed. After a slow first 10 minutes, Scotland are actually starting to function as a back division."

  186. 31 mins: 
    TRY (Tommy Seymour)- Scotland 11-0 Japan

    The forwards rumble through the phases to wear the Japan defence down to threads and Tommy Seymour bursts through the final few metres to give the hosts a little breathing space. Missed conversion by Greig Laidlaw.

  187. 28 mins: 
    Scotland 6-0 Japan

    Scotland are not having it all their own way by any means. Some scramble defence is required to scrag a breakaway by Japan winger Kenki Fukuoka. The pitch, which has been treated with a garlic spray to try and keep it together, is churning up something rotten.

  188. 25 mins: 
    England 17-6 Argentina

    England's line-out ball is safe and sound as Dylan Hartley picks out Northampton team-mate Courtney Lawes in the middle of the queue. Hartley is full of energy in the loose as well and buys a couple more yards with a powerful run, before the backs spill the ball with Joel Tomkins trying to flick a ball out of a tackle and failing to find a white shirt.

    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 17-6 Argentina

    "It was a nice finish from Billy Twelvetrees. He's an abrasive player when he wants to be and he made the kick nice and easy as well.

    "Before that I honestly have to say that's a bog-standard step off the right foot and dive to the line from Chris Ashton. He was holding it in his wrong hand and should have been fending with his left and scoring with his right.

    "I've never seen Chris Ashton try to do a Shane Williams-type side-step. He's a graceful, powerful runner and it looked like he was thinking 'I really should score' and it's confidence, that finishing ability. You can't help but think if this is next week you have to take that chance."

  190. 22 mins: 
    CONVERTED TRY- England 17-6 Argentina (Billy Twelvetrees)

    After last week's pasting at the hands of the critics and his own family, Billy Twelvetrees bustles over from close range for a try he looks deeply grateful for. Argentina were already under huge pressure with Chris Ashton held up over the line after he got a little casual in his finish. Owen Farrell kicks the conversion.

    Andy Nicol, Former Scotland scrum-half and BBC Sport expertScotland 6-0 Japan

    "Scotland are finding it hard to get their momentum and Japan have done their homework. Steve Borthwick is coaching with Japan and he's worked them really hard in the line-out and you can see the evidence of that.

    "David Denton has been prominent, good ball carrier and it's good to see him back because he struggled a bit last year but he's back to his best and brings a great physicality at number eight."

  192. 21 mins: 
    PENALTY (Greig Laidlaw)- Scotland 6-0 Japan

    Scotland have stuttered after a smooth start, but Greig Laidlaw strokes over another penalty to push them out to a six-point lead.

  193. 17 mins: 
    PENALTY (Marcelo Bosch)- England 10-6 Argentina

    The Argentina pack put the squeeze on their opposite numbers in the scrum and up pops referee Pascal Gauzere's arm to award the away side a penalty. Saracens' Marcelo Bosch steps up and shows club team-mate Owen Farrell that he can do distance as well. Lovely kick.

  194. 14mins: 
    CONVERSION (Owen Farrell)- England 10-3 Argentina

    The extras arrive courtesy of Owen Farrell's boot. England have made a good start, looking controlled and composed.

    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 10-3 Argentina

    "It was great patience, they took their time at the line-out and I would love to see England do that against New Zealand next week, make that statement of intent to attack from the off.

    If you want to beat the best you're going to have to score tries - penalties aren't enough. Joe Launchbury has deserved that and whenever he has that England shirt out he just seems to blossom. He used his Inspector Gadget arms to reach over and score."

  196. 12 mins: 
    TRY (Joe Launchbury)- England 8-3 Argentina
    Joe Launchbury scores for England

    A rumbling rolling maul was dragged down just short by the Argentina pack, but Owen Farrell looks into the corner once more and at a second attempt, England are over. Joe Launchbury emerges from the depths of a pile of bodies that includes winger Ben Foden doing some of the dirty work.

  197. 10 mins: 
    England 3-3 Argentina

    England are straight back on the front foot with Mike Brown making yards up the right flank. An under-pressure Argentina give away the penalty, and Owen Farrell puts the ball into touch in the corner rather than calling for the tee. Bullish. Fifteen metres to the line.

  198. 1444:  
    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expertEngland 3-3 Argentina

    "You need to keep an eye out on how many times you see Dickson to Farrell because that's the connection I want to see and too many times you see Dickson to anyone else.

    "I want to see Farrell at 10 and distributing from there because he can look so dangerous. He missed a couple from the same spot last week and that was a lovely thump and went over by a mile.

    "But you hate to see points given up after you've just got three yourself. There was a little bit of panic play and it was a needless penalty to give away by Courtney Lawes."

  199. 7 mins: 
    PENALTY (Nicolas Sanchez)- England 3-3 Argentina

    Lee Dickson's attempt to clear his lines from the kick-off is partially charged down by Argentina winger Juan Imhoff. A penalty results and Nicolas Sanchez levels up the scoreboard.

  200. 5 mins: 
    PENALTY (Owen Farrell)- England 3-0 Argentina

    No wobbles or worries. Owen Farrell wallops it between the sticks.

  201. 5 mins: 
    England 0-0 Argentina

    Tom Wood, sporting a cheeky Fu Manchu tache, is busy all around the field. A burrowing run from the Northampton man forces an Argentine infringement to give Owen Farrell a chance from the tee. Distance will be the problem...

  202. 6 mins: 
    PENALTY (Greig Laidlaw)- Scotland 3-0 Japan

    Greig Laidlaw slots to get the points to go with his side's early dominance.

  203. 1 min: 
    England 0-0 Argentina

    Good offensive defence from England as fierce tackling forces the Pumas back. Scrum-half Tomas Cubelli opts to dribble a box-kick up towards the 22.

  204. 1434: 
    KICK-OFF- England 0-0 Argentina

    A little later than advertised, once the smoke from the pre-match pyro clears, we are up and running at Twickenham. Lee Dickson gathers Argentina's kick-off and returns fire to find touch up near half-way.

  205. 1433: 

    Official RFU: A moment of #remembrance at Twickenham today before kick off. #ENGvARG

    England players respect a minutes silence at Twickenham
  206. 1433: 
    England v Argentina (14:30 GMT)

    One man who will want to make a vast improvement on his performance from last week is England centre Billy Twelvetrees. Matt Toomua ran right through the Gloucester man to score Australia's only try.

    Twelvetrees received a critique as brief as it was scathing from his own brother afterwards. It was the sort that uses the asterisk key.

  207. 1430: 
    KICK-OFF- Scotland 0-0 Japan

    Under way at Murrayfield.

  208. 1427: 

    Former Scotland forward Doddie Weir, speaking to BBC Scotland: "It's important to get off to a good start. The players need to get the pride and passion back into the team and play for the jersey. Japan is supposed to be the easiest game and should give them a good match and warm up for the harder matches to come against South Africa and Australia but they showed against New Zealand last week that they won't be easy."


    Sebastian Morrison: Will watch 1st half of Eng v Arg in Heathrow departure lounge. Shall then need to wait 10 hrs until arriving in LA to check score. #frustration

    Nick Hirst: Trying to find somewhere that will show the game, but no luck, will have to follow online. Stuck in Minneapolis and it's 8:15 am!

  210. 1426: 
    TEAM NEWS- England v Argentina (14:30 GMT)

    England: 15-Mike Brown; 14-Chris Ashton, 13-Joel Tomkins, 12-Billy Twelvetrees, 11-Ben Foden; 10-Owen Farrell, 9-Lee Dickson; 1-Joe Marler, 2-Dylan Hartley, 3-David Wilson, 4-Joe Launchbury, 5-Courtney Lawes, 6-Tom Wood, 7-Chris Robshaw (captain), 8-Billy Vunipola.

    Replacements: 16-Danny Care, 17-Alex Corbisiero, 18-Dan Cole, 19-Geoff Parling, 20-Ben Morgan, 21-Tom Youngs, 22-Toby Flood, 23-Alex Goode

    Argentina: 15-Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino, 14-Horacio Agulla, 13-Marcelo Bosch, 12-Santiago Fernandez, 11-Juan Imhoff, 10-Nicolas Sanchez, 9-Tomas Cubelli; 1-Marcos Ayerza, 2-Eusebio Guinazu, 3-Maximiliano Bustos, 4-Mariano Galarza, 5-Patricio Albacete, 6-Pablo Matera, 7-Julio Farias Cabello, 8-Juan Manuel Leguizamon (captain).

    Replacements: 16-Santiago Iglesias, 17-Nahuel Lobo, 18-Juan Pablo Orlandi, 19-Manuel Carizza, 20-Benjamín Macome, 21-Martin Landajo, 22-Gonzalo Tiesi, 23-Santiago Cordero.

  211. 1425: 
    TEAM NEWS- Scotland v Japan (14:30 GMT)

    Scotland: Sean Maitland, Tommy Seymour, Nick De Luca, Matt Scott, Sean Lamont, Ruaridh Jackson, Greig Laidlaw, Ryan Grant, Ross Ford, Euan Murray, Tim Swinson, Alastair Kellock, Alasdair Strokosch, Kelly Brown (capt), David Denton.

    Replacements: Pat MacArthur, Alasdair Dickinson, Geoff Cross, Richie Gray, John Barclay, Henry Pyrgos, Duncan Weir, Duncan Taylor.

    Japan: Ayumu Goromaru; Toshiaki Hirose (capt), Male Sau, Craig Wing, Kenki Fukuoka; Kosei Ono, Fumiaka Tanaka; Ryu Koliniasi Holani, Michael Broadhurst, Hendrik Tui; Shinya Makabe, Luke Thompson; Kensuke Hatakeyama, Shota Horie, Masataka Mikami

    Replacements: Yusuke Aoki, Yusuke Nagae, Hiroshi Yamashita, Hitoshi Ono, Takashi Kikutani, Atsushi Hiwasa, Yu Tamura, Yoshikazu Fujita.

  212. 1424: 

    As the teams emerge for the national anthems, let's have a run-down on the men that matter today.

  213. 1422: 

    Scotland hooker Ross Ford, speaking to BBC Scotland: "We've got guys experiencing Murrayfield for the first time. It's great to have that vibe going onto the field because it reminds everyone else what it was like to play here for the first time and everyone's excited to see what we can do this Autumn.

    "The group is really exciting. We've got a lot of players in the backline that are exciting, they've got a bit of bling about them."

    A bit of 'bling' about them. Nice.

  214. 1422: 

    Scotland interim head coach Scott Johnson speaking to BBC Scotland: "We should be ready because we've had a good week. All the talking's done, now the action starts. It's a great opportunity for these lads.

    "It's all about the contact area. We have to dominate and if we get that right we can play the game we want to play and if we don't it's going to be a long day at the office.

    "The world order in rugby is changing. This is a quality team and we're treating it as such."

  215. 1422: 

    Scotland will be confident of turning over Japan for a fourth time in four meetings, but they will have noted with interest the Brave Blossoms 23-8 win over an under-strength Wales in Tokyo in June.

  216. 1419:  
    Andy Robinson, Ex-England and Scotland coach Andy Robinson on BBC Radio 5 live

    "England have got to improve their line-outs and with Dylan Hartley coming in they have the ability to do that. It's a big game for Courtney Lawes, Joe Launchbury and Dylan Hartley, and also Billy Twelvetrees and Joel Tomkins and their ability to unleash Chris Ashton.

    "England need to have good passing game and get the ball into the wider channels, that will be one of the big challenges and one of improvements they'll want to make."

  217. 1418: 

    England have named an all-new front row to counter the Pumas' physicality. David Wilson, Dylan Hartley and Joe Marler tip the scales at a collective 55 stone.

    Sounds a lot, but Runcorn landlord Colin Corfield could have matched it at his biggest. Fair to say he was probably not bring much mobility to the part though.

  218. 1414:  
    Matt Dawson, Former England scrum-half and BBC Radio 5 live expert

    "It's always going to be physical against Argentina, particularly up front, but the conditions lend themselves to a tight game.

    "The ball will be wet and slippery and the forwards will have to engage early on, but up front the scrum looks strong and the defence looks strong so I'm not expecting Argentina to cause England many problems.

    "I would love to see England's back three ignite. Billy Twelvetrees and Joel Tomkins didn't really click last week so this is an enormous game, because do you go into New Zealand with a partnership that hasn't really fired up? Can they get the ball to that back three?"

  219. 1413:  
    Ben Dirs, BBC Sport at Twickenham

    "Given Argentina's recent performances, it is difficult to say what a good result would be for England. Certainly a win is the least that is expected, Argentina having lost all six games in the recent southern hemisphere Rugby Championship. But sandwiched between drubbings by South Africa and Australia, the Pumas were actually pretty competitive at times."

  220. 1413: 

    Andy Robinson know better than most how dangerous Argentina can be. He was at the helm when Argentina won for the first time at Twickenham back in 2006.

  221. 1410:  
    Ex-England and Scotland coach Andy Robinson on BBC Radio 5 live

    "England have only lost one game in 2013. That's really impressive with the matches they've played. They are unbeaten here at Twickenham. What you saw last week was real physicality in the contact area and real resilience to come back and win that game. That was really impressive.

    "Argentina have got a lot of caps. They played well in the Rugby Championship - they were unlucky against South Africa at home, but there is some quality in there. A lot of players play in France and England so they've played games at this level and they won't be frightened coming to Twickenham. They've got nothing to lose, they've got a new coach and can be pretty excited coming to play here."

  222. 1408: 

    Official RFU: @unionargentina won the toss and have decided to kick off. #ENGvARG

    Eng v Arg coin toss
  223. 1407: 

    Coverage of Scotland v Japan has just start on BBC Red Button and online. Former Scotland back row and BBC analyst Doddie Weir's eye-popping tartan suit is just a mouse click away at the top of this page.


    Official RFU: Lancaster's side has won 5 straight home games for first time since '03 and Cardiff defeat is only one in last 9 Tests #building

    Andrew Priestley: England, Scotland and Ireland should all win against weaker teams at home. Wales beating South Africa would be a huge result.

    Conor Mosedale: Big game for Paddy Jackson for Ireland today, especially taking the kicks.

  225. 1359: 

    "More together than ever," says Leguizamon. The aggression is already bubbling in the away side's dressing room with more than 30 minutes to kick-off.

    Argentina huddle together and squeeze the circle tight as their captain barks through exactly what his men need to do.

    There is plenty of recent history - both sporting and otherwise - for him to draw on if he chooses.

  226. 1357: 

    Argentina captain Juan Manuel Leguizamon speaking to Sky Sports: "We know what we have to do in these three matches. We're playing one of the best teams in the world and we don't have time to be thinking about different things and what happened in the past, we're focused on the present.

    "The spirit is still there. I can tell you we are more together than ever. That's the way we're going to play the match today."

  227. 1357: 

    England captain Chris Robshaw speaking to Sky Sports: "They have the forward base, the scrum and maul and they work well close to the ruck. Australia are more expansive but Argentina are starting to show that as well now. They have backs that can offload and they can play as well.

    "I'm sure the ball will be greasy all afternoon and it's about the basics done well.

    "For us, we know it's going to be a fierce battle and really competitive, especially in the forwards, and we can't let anything slip."

  228. 1356: 

    Over in Cardiff, the surface has been given a blast of UV rays to ensure it is in tip-top condition for kick-off.

    The groundsman has to take care or he'll end up looking like a Romford-grade tan.

    Where in the world are you watching today's games? You can tweet us your pictures using #bbcrugby


    Official RFU: The persistent rain has subsided, but it'll still be greasy at best for #ENGvARG.

    Scotland Rugby Team: They're here!!! #backingblue #SCOTvJPN

    Scotland Rugby players arrive in changing room
  230. 1354:  
    Ben Dirs, BBC Sport at Twickenham

    "There was torrential rain as I wandered down from Twickenham station but we now have blue skies overhead the stadium. That may or may not be bad news for Argentina, depending on the ambition - and execution - of Stuart Lancaster's England."

  231. 1353: 
    Twickenham car park

    For Argentina there will be a chance to get a feel for the sort of wet conditions underfoot that their World Cup 2015 campaign is likely to be fought out in.

    Those wax jackets have already been put to test in the West car park, but the rain is easing off just in time for kick-off apparently.

  232. 1350:  
    BBC Radio 5 live

    England head coach Stuart Lancaster on BBC Radio 5 live: "We just want to improve on our performance last week. It was a very experienced and high-quality Australia side but we want to improve our performance across the board and put pressure on Argentina when we've got the ball in hand.

    "Argentina are a formidable challenge. They defend differently and have a very aggressive strategy at the breakdown. They try to put a lot of pressure on the breakdown and pressure on the nine and try to stop you getting quick ball."

  233. 1346: 

    Here is one to kick off your suggestions.

    Three years ago Chris Ashton scored one of England's great tries from deep inside his own half against Australia. Twelve months ago he was splashing over the line and across the back pages as England felled the mighty All Blacks.

    But reports suggest that it is only injuries to both Christian Wade and Marland Yarde that have spared him from being dropped for today's game. If either had been fit, Ben Foden, despite playing out of position, would have been preferred on the other wing, apparently.

    After a torrid Six Nations campaign, the former league man needs to reaffirm his international credentials sharpish.

    Chris Ashton and Drew Mitchell
  234. 1342: 

    With less than two years to the World Cup, who are the England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales players who need to show that they can cut it against the southern hemisphere's best?

    You can submit your nominations for the the men under the microscope via Twitter on #bbcrugby or via text, with your name firmly attached, on 81111.


    England Rugby Team: England's shirt for today. Red rose and red poppy together. @PoppyLegion #Remembrance

    England poppy shirt

    Scotland Rugby Team: The Scotland changing room all set up for the team... #backingblue #SCOTvJPN

    Scotland dressing room
  237. 1337: 

    There is BBC coverage of today's Tests coming at you from more angles than a double dummy scissors.

    Here is your cut-out-and-keep* guide to where to find your team and the others this afternoon.

    Scotland v Japan - live on BBC Red Button and online from 1400 GMT

    England v Argentina - live audio commentary on BBC Radio 5 live and online from 1430 GMT, with highlights on BBC Three at 1930

    England women v France women - live on BBC 5 live sports extra and online from 1650 GMT

    Wales v South Africa - live on BBC Two, BBC Radio 5 live, Radio Wales, Radio Cymru and online at 1700 GMT

    Ireland v Samoa - live on BBC Red Button, BBC Two in Northern Ireland and online from 1730 GMT

    * - probably best to just cut and paste instead.

  238. 1334: 

    Anyone want any early guess on the 'physical' sweepstake? With England taking on a protein-packed Argentina side, before Wales face up to the never-shy Springboks, that catch-all term for on-field brutality is going to get plenty of use today.

    Here is how this afternoon pans out:

    England v Argentina (1430 GMT)

    Scotland v Japan (1430 GMT)

    Wales v South Africa (1730 GMT)

    Ireland v Samoa (1745 GMT)

  239. 1330: 

    If you have hatches and you know how to batten them, now is the time to act. You can forget St Jude, it is about to get really stormy out there.

    England won the opening skirmish against Australia last week, but this weekend the battle between northern and southern hemisphere rugby opens up on all fronts.

    We have four Tests, with BBC coverage of them all either zapping to your eyeballs or fired down your earholes.

    So hand the dog his own lead, put that DIY on hold, and invent an illness to side-step any family engagements, because your afternoon plans start and end here.

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