Ospreys' Jonathan Humphreys hits out at unrealistic expectations
Ospreys forwards coach Jonathan Humphreys has hit out at the "unrealistic" expectations of Welsh success in the Heineken Cup.
The former Wales captain claimed the Welsh regions do not have the money to compete with the rest of Europe.
The Ospreys lost 17-14 to Treviso in their final pool match, with no Welsh side qualifying for the quarter-finals.
"Our [Welsh] expectations are totally unrealistic. We are the least funded and yet we expect the most," he said.
"Someone justify to me why we should be disappointed.
Ospreys in Europe
- 12 October: Ospreys 38-17 Treviso
- 21 October: Leicester 39-22 Ospreys
- 8 December: Toulouse 30-14 Ospreys
- 15 December: Ospreys 17-6 Toulouse
- 13 January: Ospreys 15-15 Leicester
- 20 January: Treviso 17-14 Ospreys
"We have way less money than everybody else in the competition, that's including the Italians... and we are upset about it?"
The Ospreys, Cardiff Blues and Llanelli Scarlets all failed to reach the quarter-finals of the Heineken Cup, managing just three wins and a draw out of 18 pool matches.
The Newport Gwent Dragons, who failed to qualify for the Heineken Cup, were knocked out in pool stages of the Amlin Challenge Cup.
Wales' four regions each receive £3.5m each a year, the money coming from playing in televised matches and a contribution from the WRU.
The regions have introduced a salary cap of £3.5m a year, and are still in negotiations with the Union over the future funding of the professional game in Wales.
That follows a report by accountancy firm PriceWaterhouseCoopers, which questioned the financial viability of regional rugby.
The regions have been hit by the departure of a series of high-profile players for French and English clubs.
These include former Ospreys stars Mike Phillips, James Hook, Lee Byrne, Paul James and Craig Mitchell, who are all Welsh internationals.
Humphreys claims the level of funding does not allow the Welsh regions to compete with the rest of the teams in European tournaments.
"You can't come and win European competitions when you've got less money than everybody else in it," he said.
"But if people want to justifiably say to the Welsh regions, 'You're disappointing', well put us on a level playing field, and then say we're disappointing."
Regional Rugby Wales is the body which represents the four Welsh regions, and their chief executive Stuart Gallacher says he believes one of them should have its funding reduced.
"It may be that we need to look at the whole map of Wales again. I'm not scaremongering, but we haven't got the resources any longer for four teams," he warned.
"I believe we need four [but] I'm not saying four equal. To have an area of Wales without a professional region is self defeating... but I think we can do it differently."
Gallacher would not be drawn on which of the regions should be scaled down.
"I couldn't make that comment, it would be remiss of me," he told BBC Radio Wales' Morning Call programme.
"That is a call for all four regions plus the Welsh Rugby Union. But it's no good ducking it, we can talk around it forever, but we have to make decisions."
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Comment number 196.
wooodsey23rd January 2013 - 22:32
193.Deano-Gwent
You not going to get people watching development teams. You've got to keep 4 regions at least and Wales A. Whilst the support base is low at the moment it wouldn't increase under your proposals. People will be drawn by success. The other problem is the regions are geographically all south of the M4
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Comment number 195.
Deano-Gwent23rd January 2013 - 22:24
Additionally: If the WRU funding, gate takings, sponsorship, benefactors increase, the players salaries can increase in line with their performance, if a few decide to chase £s elsewhere and strength in depth is sufficient, simply don't consider them for Welsh duty. It wouldn't happen overnight but it could work.
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Comment number 194.
wooodsey23rd January 2013 - 22:20
192.dantheman917
I was involved in rugby in Munster and I can't remember figures as high as that. Also remember rugby is behind Gaelic Games and Football in popularity. They don't have a significantly bigger pool of player its just managed better and schools rugby is very highly thought of there by parents and the IRFU in Wales Youth and Schools rugby is a shambles
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Deano-Gwent23rd January 2013 - 22:14
189.wooodsey. If we had 2 regions (possibly 3) and had strong development (2nd) teams who were feeder teams for the regions and a Wales A team we would have a core of 60 - 90 first squad players and the same for the 2nd squad, that's a possible 180 players - a "hand full" of experienced foreigners, say 160 Welsh qualified players within the regional set up.
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Comment number 192.
dantheman91723rd January 2013 - 21:52
@189.wooodsey
Ireland has 153,823 registered rugby players
Wales has 79,800
not sure how accurate to date those numbers are but you'll find Ireland has a significantly larger player pool
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