Sunday's Premier League as it happened

Sunderland hold Manchester United in the Premier League after Spurs beat QPR and Hull hold Stoke.

24 August 2014 Last updated at 11:54

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  1. 19:00: 

    So, an impressive victory for Tottenham and a point apiece for Hull, Stoke, Sunderland and Manchester United.

    There's going to be plenty of reaction to all of today's games on the BBC Sport website tonight. And, don't forget Match of the Day 2 which is on BBC One at 22:25 BST (23:10 in Scotland).

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    Ian Wright, 606 on BBC Radio 5 liveSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "Manchester United have had a lot of success and people revel in the fact that they're not doing well - but they'll get it right. Some fans can't accept it's not going right. But Louis Van Gaal will do his best, and I think a little more patience is required."

    606 phone-in, BBC Radio 5 liveThe Young debate

    John, a Manchester United fan on 606: "If I see Ashley Young in a United shirt again, I won't be watching them."

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    Samad Gigil: I don't understand why Manchester United aren't linked with Khedira! The archetypal box to box midfielder like Keane!

    Cameron Laws: If today showed anything, it showed Manchester United need another defender, a top class central midfielder and some attacking flair (Di Maria).

    Chris Riley: £63m for Di Maria seems excessive when he's not the defender Man United need - and Chelsea got Fabregas for around £30m.

  5. 18:48: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
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    Solomon Sangabukila: Bring back David Moyes.

    Ash Morgan: Man Utd desperately need a world class, confident leader of a centre back or three...

  7. 18:37: 
    Manager reaction- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal on whether Ashley Young dived to try to win a penalty: "No I don't think so. He was tackled, in my opinion. After that he was exaggerating. It's not diving because he was touched by the opponent."

    606 phone-in, BBC Radio 5 liveIs Di Maria right for Man Utd?

    Steve, a Manchester United fan: "At £60m, I think the Di Maria money could be better spent elsewhere."

    Do you agree?

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  9. 18:36: 
    Manager reaction- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    When asked about whether United are close to signing Angel Di Maria from Real Madrid, Louis Van Gaal said: "I cannot say anything at this time. I think always the club has to announce it first.

    "And when we are thinking it's the right time we come you to and say 'we have bought that player'. Do I like him? Yes, but there are a lot of players in this world I like!"

  10. 18:30: 
    Player reaction- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Manchester United striker Robin van Persie: "In possession we were a bit too sloppy. I did work with Louis van Gaal for two years, he is very clear of what he asks from every player in the team. Of course where I can I will help.

    "Everyone has faith and everyone believes in his staff and our players because we have great players. We have played two games and we only have one point, we would have loved six points but that didn't happen and we need to bounce back.

    "I feel fit, I feel good and I am looking forward to the next minutes."

  11. 18:29: 
    Manager reaction- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal, speaking to BBC Radio 5 live: "The purpose of the game is to create more chances and score goals. We haven't created more chances, but in the second half we were more dominant than we were against Swansea. That's a plus, but we have to create more from that dominance.

    "You have to recognise the fight of the opponent. We have reached Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie a lot of times, but after that you need the support of the midfielders, and the combination was not good enough.

    "The only reason to give a penalty is when the opponent touches the leg of a player. Van Persie and Young were touched. Young lifted the ball across the opponent and he was touched by the opponent. The referee can give a penalty - but we don't have to talk too much about that. We can talk about our passing game which was not good enough."

    Reaction- Hull 1-1 Stoke

    Hull midfielder Tom Huddlestone: Some of the decisions we've had against us in the past two games aren't worth commenting on.

    Reaction- Hull 1-1 Stoke

    Hull defender Curtis Davies: Great effort from the lads today. Sickening feeling to be up so long with 10 men only for a decision to prove vital. Two big games next.

  14. 18:25: 

    Here's some reaction to the earlier game at the KC Stadium...

  15. 18:24: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    While different players and managers appear to be interviewed by various media outlets, the Sunderland groundstaff are already cutting the grass on the Stadium of Light pitch. Does the green stuff really grow that much in 90 minutes?

  16. 18:22: 
    Manager reaction- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland manager Gus Poyet tells Sky Sports: "I think it was a good game to watch, we played a good first half going forward, taking chances and creating them.

    "We conceded at the wrong time because we were in control of the game. The second half we couldn't really play the game we wanted to play. We made a few decisions on how to play against a different system. It shows we were organised and disciplined."

    On Sunderland's hopes of signing Liverpool striker Fabio Borini, Poyet adds: "It's the million dollar question. I think we are close to an answer. Now is the time to decide because it's been too long. It's time for a yes or no and we need to move on."

  17. 18:21: 
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    Sunderland also face back-to-back away games next. They travel to play Birmingham on Wednesday and then face QPR on Saturday.

  18. 18:19: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    What's next for Manchester United then? First of all, they face a trip to MK Dons in the second round of the Carling Cup on Tuesday, before they travel to Burnley next Saturday. That one's the lunchtime kick-off.

  19. 18:17: 
    Manager reaction- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland manager Gus Poyet tells BBC Sport: "A point is fair, I think so. We conceded a goal against the run of play a little bit.

    "We came back in the game, pushing. The fans were behind the team. The goal from Jack Rodwell was perfect for a home debut. There are plenty of positives.

    "It's important we started better than last year and that was key. Will Buckley played well and was incisive as well."

    The new Sir Alex?

    Infostrada Sports: Louis van Gaal is still on course to emulate Alex Ferguson. Exact same record after first two matches as Manchester United manager: Loss-Draw.

  21. 18:15: 
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    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    BBC Radio 5 live presenter Danny Baker: One option is that Man U move permanently to USA where they can still rake it in at heritage exhibition shows. Like Billy Idol or Sheena Easton.

    Ian Wright, 606 on BBC Radio 5 live

    "Ashley Young deserved a yellow card over the penalty claim. He went over very easily. That's not going to help his reputation. I think his future's elsewhere. I think he should look at kicking on."

  24. 18:08: 
    Player reaction- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland goalscorer Jack Rodwell: "They needed a win, we knew they were going to come out the blocks and we put on a performance today.

    "It's great to score and I'm trying to get more headers! It was a good result. It's brilliant to be playing again after last season. I'm hoping to build up my fitness now and continue that."

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    Scott Mills: What do Man Utd need? Defenders, yes. Another number 10 or winger who doesn't track back, no.

    SJ Ismvil: Still think it was all Moyes' fault? Ha.

    Andrew Tarpey: Will judge United when Di Maria, Shaw, Rojo, Carrick and Herrera are all in the side. For now it's pre-season in my head.

  26. 18:03: 
    Player reaction- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland captain Lee Cattermole tells Sky Sports: "We had to be organised, they were looking for a reaction after last week's result.

    "But we're an organised team and we've worked hard in pre-season. It was vital after last year we got off to a good start and hopefully it continues."

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  28. 18:01: 
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    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "I expect Manchester United will improve. Whether that can be done in time to get in touch with the top teams - that's the big question.

    "Chelsea, Manchester City and Arsenal wouldn't be fearful of that side - even Everton and Tottenham wouldn't be fearful. Louis van Gaal has to sort out the defence and midfield. Adnan Januzaj may be part of the answer there, because he was lively when he came on.

    "You can talk about systems all day long. Van Gaal will play three at the back, he'll stick with it and the players will adapt. Today he probably only had about half of the team out there he would want to play. Will this be the Manchester United team come 2 or 3 September? I doubt it."

  30. 17:56: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    What did you make of that Manchester United fans? Is Angel Di Maria the answer? Who else should your club be signing?

    What about Sunderland fans? Is it all coming together nicely under Gus Poyet?

  31. 17:54: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Here's how the bottom half of the two-game-old Premier League table looks...

    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd
  32. 17:51: 
    FULL-TIME- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    All over. Louis van Gaal's wait for his first win as Manchester United manager continues. Sunderland? They are played two, drawn two.

    Wayne Rooney of Manchester United looks dejected
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    Joe Wedgwood: Juan Mata is increasingly ineffectual when tasked with providing United's creativity. Di Maria will surely offer more?

    Oli Worth: Why would Di Maria want to join this very average Man Utd team with no European football and little prospect of it?

    Toby Baker: You know it's been a bad day when Phil Jones has been your best player.

    Corin Wright: Every team has players who go to ground... it doesn't make sense Young gets quite so much stick for it.

  34. 17:51: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Antonio Valencia's cross is headed clear, Juan Mata and Dany Welbeck's one-two breaks down and Adnan Januzaj's low shot flashes wide.

  35. 17:50: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    The ball is indeed pumped into the box, but the referee blows for a foul by Wes Brown.

  36. 17:49: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland win a free-kick just inside their own half. Hoof it forward...

  37. 17:48: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Jozy Altidore breaks forward, tries a step-over and is mugged by Phil Jones. The unmarked Connor Wickham is furious.

  38. 17:47: 
    INJURY TIME- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Four minutes of injury time...

  39. 17:46: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    A lung-busting run from his own half by Ashley Young ends with a low shot which is well saved at his near post by Vito Mannone. In the course of that move, Young injures himself and goes to ground.

  40. 17:44: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland goalkeeper Vito Mannone gets away with a slip as Ashley Young rifles a low shot into a crowd of desperate Black Cats defenders. The pendulum swings once again.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "Lee Cattermole has been fantastic today. He's not just been patrolling his own area. When he sees the danger somewhere else, he gets over. He's got a great engine, and the timing of his tackles has been superb."

    Juan Mata of Manchester United is tackled by Lee Cattermole
  42. 17:41: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland are being allowed to play the ball out from the back - only being met with a blue shirt when they reach the halfway line. As a result, the Black Cats are patiently building up a head of steam.

    Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?- Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Jord Holly: Worst player ever to play for Portsmouth. Theofanis Gekas. I think he got 20 seconds of game time. Flop.

    Mark Barrow: Roque Junior at Leeds - seven games, 24 goals conceded. Sent off on home debut and scored two against Man U but we still lost 3-2.

    Matt Donnelly: Has to be Massimo Taibi at Man Utd - the Le Tissier howler will always be replayed in any blooper DVDs.

  44. 17:39: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Woeful control from Jozy Altidore sees one Sunderland attack break down, before Patrick van Aanholt tries his luck with a daisy-cutter. Easy for David De Gea.

  45. 17:37: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    10 minutes to find a winner. Who wants the three points?

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "Juan Mata has been dominated by Lee Cattermole today. There have been times when I've questioned whether Cattermole has got what it takes to play at the top level. Those questions are well in the past now.

    "His fitness is astonishing. Not only has he dominated Mata, but he's also got close to Wayne Rooney when he has moved into the area where Mata has been playing."

  47. 17:35: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Admit it Sunderland fans... you had your hearts in your mouths then. Danny Welbeck plays a wonderful pass into the path of Ashley Young and Vito Mannone comes racing out of his goal to beat the flying wing-back to the ball just outside his area. What a tackle!

  48. 17:33: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Jozy Altidore is on. Steven Fletcher is off. 14 minutes to go.

    Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?- Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Paul Hunt: Worst player at Liverpool was either Sean Dundee or Torben Piechnik. Or most of Graeme Souness' signings.

    Leon Walcott: Worst player for me in a Villa shirt.... Bosko Balaban followed closely by Alex Tonev.

    Steven Brown: Lots of candidates for worst player at Leeds but Zamouna Camara shades it for me.

    Guy Mowbray, BBC Match of the Day commentator at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "I think we're building up to some sort of grandstand finish here."

  51. 17:31: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    But Seb Larsson bends it wide. Well wide, in fact.

  52. 17:31: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Santiago Vergini has been an absolute colossus for Sunderland this afternoon - dominating at the back and now he's bringing the ball out of defence and starting a move which ends with the hosts winning a free-kick 25 yards from goal...

  53. 17:29: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    We're into the final 20 minutes of the game now. This could go either way.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "It's amazing how games suddenly stretch. Players get tired, systems change and - over a one or two-minute period - it's almost as if tactics have gone out of the window."

  55. 17:27: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    For a brief second, Michael Keane sees glory... but his header from 18 yards out is meat and drink for Vito Mannone.

    Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?- Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    James Lindsay: Chris Sutton at Chelsea. Bought for £10m and only managed one goal. Mind you it was against Manchester United.

    Chris Martins: It's got to be Tomas Repka for West Ham... an own goal specialist.

    Felix Keith: Surely Ali Dia of Southampton has got to be the worst player to have played in the top flight?

  57. 17:26: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Sunderland don't want a point here. They want all three - Connor Wickham playing in Seb Larsson and the midfielder's shot is deflected wide. The game is becoming stretched.

    Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?- Text us on 81111

    From Josh in Notts: I don't think there will be too many Liverpool fans out there who'd disagree with Djimi Traore being nominated for worst player. An absolute liability as a full back, summed up by his infamous own goal against Burnley. How that man has a Champions League winners medal is beyond me.

    From James C in Surrey: Has to be Winston Bogarde at Chelsea. A 10 million pound contract for nine appearances in four years...

    From Tim Barber: Richard Edghill for Man City, gave 110% but not much else.

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    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "The first tackle is absolutely spot on, the defender's got the ball. With the second tackle, I think Ashley Young is waiting for a hit and just about dived out of the way - so I can't fault the referee there either.

    "He dived into the player trying to get the hit. There was minimal contact, and I think the referee's got it right. We know Ashley Young has done that before. He's got previous, and referees know it. That shouldn't be a factor, but it is. It's as if he's anticipating the contact - but it's an elaborate dive."

  60. 17:22: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    That is Robin van Persie's last act as he is replaced by Danny Welbeck while Adnan Januzaj comes on for Darren Fletcher. For Sunderland, Jordi Gomez is on for Jack Rodwell.

    Manager Louis van Gaal of Manchester United substitutes Robin van Persie of Manchester United
  61. 17:21: 
    PENALTY APPEAL- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Two penalty appeals for Manchester United, and both are correctly turned down. First of all, Santiago Vergini times a tackle to perfection to deny Robin van Persie before Ashley Young theatrically throws himself to ground when faced with Wes Brown in the Sunderland box. A dive? The referee thinks so and gets out the yellow card.

    Referee Martin Atkinson shows the yellow card to Ashley Young
    Darren Fletcher and Juan Mata of Manchester United confront referee Martin Atkinson
  62. 17:19: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Manchester United are desperately trying to impose a bit of class in midfield now - Darren Fletcher side-stepping Lee Cattermole's forceful challenge in midfield and playing in Robin van Persie who finds Juan Mata but the Spaniard is crowded out.

  63. 17:16: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Ryan Giggs is locked in animated discussion with Louis van Gaal in the dug-out. Manchester United are actually getting a bit of momentum back and Steven Fletcher has to help out with some defensive duties when Juan Mata whips a good cross into the box from the right. Finally, Sunderland manage to press their visitors back.

  64. 17:13: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    BBC Radio 5 live presenter Danny Baker: Manchester United are like going to see a famous band who have a great back catalogue and reputation but now only one original member left.

    Who's the worst player you've seen at your club - and why?- Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Wale Ibraheem: The worst player I have seen at Chelsea was Khalid Boulahrouz. Came on as substitute and later substituted after few minutes.

    Pundit de Satge: Konchesky, N'gog, Voronin, Poulsen - take your pick from Liverpool over the years and the Hodgson era.

    Lee Bown: Worst player at Liverpool. Jan Kromkamp.

  66. 17:11: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Wayne Rooney is enduring another difficult afternoon. He gets the chance to run at the Sunderland defence in a one-on-one situation but Santiago Vergini easily mops up the danger. Meanwhile, Lee Cattermole continues to throw his weight around in the Sunderland midfield. United being outmuscled?

  67. 17:09: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    So, so close for Sunderland. Some very neat play on the edge of the box helps the ball reach Connor Wickham just inside the area and, as Michael Keane slips, the striker scuffs a shot towards goal which is almost turned into his own net by Tyler Blackett before trickling wide.

    Conor Wickham reacts after missing a chance
    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "It's interesting that Manchester United have not changed the back line at half-time. It's still three men at the back. I don't have a problem with Tyler Blackett - he's played OK. In the long term Phil Jones may end up being the central player in that back three. But the five they currently have as a back line would not send fear into many strikers at the top level."

  69. 17:06: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    A slow start to the second half - but Gus Poyet is keeping things interesting with a theatrical, almost toddler-like, tantrum when a run-of-the-mill decision goes against him. What a great character.

    606 phone-in, BBC Radio 5 liveHave your say on the day's action

    Plenty to talk about already on a busy Sunday of Premier League action. Are Tottenham serious Premier League title contenders? Can Louis van Gaal sort out Manchester United's defence? Were Hull as hard done by today as their manager Steve Bruce claims?

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  71. 17:02: 
    KICK-OFF- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    The second-half show is on the road.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightHALF-TIME- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "Tom Cleverley has been incredibly quiet and had a limited effect. He and Darren Fletcher haven't passed the ball well. That's probably why the strikers have had limited impact. Mata, Rooney and Van Persie haven't had the service.

    "This is a work in progress. It will be a miracle if this Manchester United side win the league - but I don't think this will be the Manchester United side going forward."

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    Adam Lamb: Worst player at Newcastle. Boumsong

    Charlie Fee: Titus "shambles" Bramble for Newcastle has to be up there.

    Brad Hughes: Worst defender I've seen down at Birmingham in a long time is Tyler Blackett. 3-0 down after 24 mins, and taken off at half-time.

    Let's open up this debate. Tell us who you think is the worst player you've seen at your club - and why. Tweet with #bbcfootball, text on 81111 or get in touch via Facebook or Google+.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightHALF-TIME- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "I think Manchester United would be concerned if that was defensive line-up they put out against Manchester City, Chelsea or Arsenal. They haven't got on the ball well enough. They have taken more control. But they do have to do something about that left hand side. Get Ashley Young further up the pitch. The problem is that they don't have anyone else to sit in there."

  75. 16:54: 
    Manager reaction- Tottenham 4-0 QPR
    QPR manager Harry Redknapp

    QPR boss Harry Redknapp tells BBC Sport: "We didn't play well. We got what we deserved, which is nothing. We didn't play with enough energy and I thought we were in awe of Tottenham a little bit.

    "I just felt we started sloppy and never really got better. You have to play with energy, you can't stroll about in this division if you want to stay in it.

    "If Matty Phillips had scored early on it might have given us a lift. But we went under a bit today, not everybody but I was disappointed."

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    Spurs have got themselves a fine manager in Mauricio Pochettino. This fella might actually be around for a while. Tactically very astute!

  77. 16:53: 
    Manager reaction- Tottenham 4-0 QPR
    Tottenham's players celebrate

    Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino told BBC Sport: "We are really pleased and happy. It was a great performance. We are happy with 4-0 it was a great result.

    "We are trying to develop our style and philosophy. It is not easy but the players always try. Today we did well.

    "Erik Lamela did well, it is never easy when you come to new country and you are young to adapt. He needs time to show his skill. We believe in all our squad. We try to get the best out of each player and it's important because we have a lot of games ahead."

  78. 16:53: 

    Let's catch up with some reaction from one of the day's lunchtime matches...

  79. 16:52: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Daily Telegraph northern football correspondent Mark Ogden: This United defence has William Prunier all over it...

    Prunier, for those of you too young to remember, was a French defender who played two games for Manchester United - where his short stay ended after a calamitous display in a 4-1 defeat at Tottenham on New Year's Day 1996.

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  81. 16:47: 
    HALF-TIME- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Nothing between the teams as they head for a half-time break. I suspect Sunderland will be the happier side.

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    Nenye Fes: Fletcher, Young and Cleverly are not United quality.

    Muchiri Ndung'u: United need to get the fear factor back - no one seems to be afraid of them anymore.

    Augustine Banda: Come on Sunderland - these are your fellow mid-table team. You can even finish above them this season.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "What odds would you have got six months ago on Keane, Jones and Blackett being a three-man central defence for Manchester United in an important game? It will be interesting to see if Louis van Gaal sticks with this for the second half.

    "What I will say is that when you get Phil Jones playing as the central defender in that set-up, he will come out with he ball much more than Smalling does, so it may help them."

  84. 16:46: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Manchester United's back three is now: Phil Jones, Michael Keane and Tyler Blackett...

  85. 16:44: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    An enforced change for Manchester United, with Chris Smalling going off injured (hamstring) and being replaced by 21-year-old Michael Keane who is making his Premier League debut after spending last season on loan at Blackburn. A big step up.

  86. 16:41: 
    ACROBATIC EFFORT- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Jack Rodwell is winning everything in the air now - knocking the ball back across for Steven Fletcher but the striker's overhead kick is way off target.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "I've talked about Ashley Young a lot today as he's under pressure more than anybody else, because there's a replacement for him ready to come in. He's got to work on the defensive side of his game."

  88. 16:39: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Damning criticism from Matt below. Is this one of the worst defences Manchester United have fielded? Let's have your contenders for the worst player you've seen at your own club.

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    From Adam in Edinburgh: This United team are literally terrible. You may as well have cardboard cut outs of Cleverley, Fletcher, Smalling and Young because they don't do anything of worth at any point in any game!

    From Matt in Leicester: Forget Di Maria! The rumours of Daley Blind and Nigel de Jong look far more important! Never seen such poor defenders and midfielders representing Man United.

  90. 16:38: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Playing as the most advanced player in the Manchester United team, Robin van Persie is having to hold up the ball to allow the likes of Wayne Rooney to join in any quick attacks. He's doing a decent enough job at it but Manchester United, despite stringing together what seems like 50 passes in the Sunderland half, can't pick any pockets and the promise fizzles out.

    Van Persie
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    Paul Iummis: Ball watching, and nobody on the post. What a shambles.

    Ed Stockton: Great header that. Even if he is an ex-Toffee, I don't like to see talent like Rodwell's go to waste.

    Sam Neal: Di Maria would be a great signing! But Man U could spend the large sum of money better signing a couple of decent defenders.

  92. 16:34: 
    Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    Ironic cheers from the Sunderland supporters as Wayne Rooney steps up to take a free-kick 35 yards from goal and curls it wide of his target.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 1-1 Man Utd

    "It's a really neat bit of movement from Jack Rodwell. He runs to the near post, and then puts on the brakes so his maker can't stay with him, and he gets a clear header. I liked his movement. Everything about that was perfect for Rodwell - apart from the celebration, where he fell over, and we can all have a good laugh at that on Match of the Day 2 this evening.

    "I didn't think he got enough games at Manchester City - and I hope that won't hold up his career. I don't think it will - I think he's going to blossom here."

  94. 16:29: 
    GOAL- Sunderland 1-1 Man Utd - Jack Rodwell (30 mins)

    £10m well spent? Sunderland fans certainly think so as ex-Manchester City midfielder Jack Rodwell becomes an instant hero on Wearside by evading his marker, Robin van Persie, and heading home Seb Larsson's corner at the near post. A bit too easy for the hosts.

  95. 16:28: 
    Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    Better from Sunderland as a throw-in finds Connor Wickham, who turns Phil Jones 35 yards out and rifles in a low shot which is just wide of David De Gea's goal.

  96. 16:26: 
    Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    Q. How can you tell Sunderland are second-best?

    A. When Lee Cattermole is running round kicking shadows.

    Manchester United look a different outfit now as they take their turn to pass the ball about in pretty triangles and push the Black Cats high up the pitch.

  97. 16:23: 
    Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    The three amigos sat behind Sir Alex don't look too welcoming, do they?

  98. 16:21: 
    Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    That Manchester United goal has instantly taken the sting out of Sunderland, silenced the supporters and infused the visitors with a new-found serenity. They no longer look all at sea.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 0-1 Man Utd

    "That's a killer sucker punch. It's almost the first time Manchester United have been up the pitch. Antonio Valencia was positive.

    "That's what they were working on in the warm-up before the game - it's good old fashioned wing play. Well done to Juan Mata for showing the desire to get there. It's a tap in. With United a goal up, surely their confidence must grow now."

  100. 16:16: 
    GOAL- Sunderland 0-1 Man Utd - Juan Mata (17 mins)

    Sunderland miss a glorious chance at one end - Connor Wickham firing straight at David de Gea after a sweeping counter-attack - before Manchester United roar up the other end and take the lead.

    The goal is fashioned on the flanks... Antonio Valencia putting in a delightful ball from the right and Juan Mata is on hand to convert from six yards out.

    Juan Mata of Manchester United celebrates
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    Ethan Robinson: I just can't see an out-and-out winger like Young becoming a right-footed left-wing back in a few months.

    David: I can only assume Di Maria is being brought to play as a centre-back.

    Hassan Aljumah: Someone tell Cleverly he is playing football not rugby - enough with the backward passing and conversion kicks.

  102. 16:13: 
    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    However, Sunderland can't make the chance count - Seb Larsson picking out Lee Cattermole on the edge of the box and the midfielder's low shot is charged down.

  103. 16:12: 
    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Sunderland win a free-kick down near the corner flag when Ashley Young bundles over Will Buckley on the right...

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    "Manchester United have given the ball away three times already when playing it along the back three. Part of the problem is that Tom Cleverley and Darren Fletcher are pushing further on, which means the defenders are have to play their shorter passes across the back rather than go forwards - and the back three don't look comfortable doing that. A back three is fine, but you have to be comfortable on the ball."

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    From Neil in Dorset: Sunderland love playing the big teams. Home wins against Man City and Chelsea last season - not to mention scalp of United in the Carling Cup. Can easily see a second chastening defeat for Louis van Gaal today.

  106. 16:09: 
    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Tom Cleverley's not found his shooting range yet - lashing into Row Z from just outside the area. That ball was in more danger of finding Rex outside the ground (see 15:47) than troubling Vito Mannone.

  107. 16:07: 
    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    I'm with Pat Nevin on Jack Rodwell - I think he's got the potential to be a very, very good midfield player. Back to the action though, where Sunderland are trying to press Manchester United high up the pitch. They aren't going to sit back.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    "I've got great hopes for Jack Rodwell at Sunderland. I wasn't sure about him when he left Everton. But in the few games he played for Manchester City, he looked special. If he can get regular games under his belt here, he could be something very special.

    "What we're seeing already in this game is that both teams are going at each other. It's an exciting start, and I've high hopes that it will continue in that way."

  109. 16:04: 
    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Louis van Gaal sits with his legs crossed, supporting an A4 dossier in which the manager constantly scribbles away. I can't quite make it out, but LvG looks more of a fountain pen man than somebody who uses a biro nabbed from the bookies.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    "I can see Angel Di Maria slotting in where Ashley Young plays now. Young is not the best defensively, while Di Maria can do a decent job there.

    "Is Di Maria the key stone of this Manchester United side or is he just another brick? That would be my question."

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    Kev in Colchester: What on earth is going on with Man Utd's kit? That's awful!

    Rob in Brighton: I really don't see where Di Maria fits into a 3-5-2. Are they planning on playing him as a wing-back? Are United buying good players because they are available, or are they buying the correct personnel to fit a system?

    Ryan in London: I think Man Utd will burst into life with the return of Robin van Persie but they will be leaking goals all season, there is no organisation at the back. Sunderland could sneak a win today.

  112. 16:01: 
    Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    Already, Manchester United look jittery - Ashley Young playing an awful backpass which is picked up by Connor Wickham 35 yards from goal. The young striker drives forward, but can't quite play a killer ball into Steven Fletcher and the danger passes. For now.

  113. 16:00: 
    KICK-OFF- Sunderland 0-0 Man Utd

    The referee gives his whistle a good toot and we're under way at the Stadium of Light.

    Louis van Gaal
  114. 15:59: 
    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    So Louis van Gaal knows what most would agree is Blind-ingly obvious - the Red Devils need defenders. One man strongly linked to Old Trafford is Ajax's Daley Blind, who was an integral part of Van Gaal's Dutch World Cup squad.

    But it appears the versatile 24-year-old, who can play left-back, the left centre-half of a back three, or the holding midfield role, is still firmly in the Dutch champions plans. Interestingly Blind, the son of Dutch legend Danny, has started their Eredivisie match against arch-rivals PSV Eindhoven. Ajax fans will be crossing their fingers that this isn't his last appearance in the famous red and white shirt.

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin, BBC Radio 5 live at the Stadium of LightSunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    "Manchester United must show people they are a team to be feared again. For large parts of last season, teams treated a fixture against them as just another game.

    "What I find interesting is the way United have warmed up. They did pure attacking play for 20 to 25 minutes - and it's clear they're not going out to soak up pressure. Antonio Valencia will be expected to play as a right winger, not a right-back."

  116. 15:56: 
    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    It's almost time. Manchester United, wearing dark blue, walk out alongside their hosts Sunderland.

    Louis Van Gaal and Sunderland's manager Gus Poyet
  117. 15:55: 
    Manager reaction- Hull City 1-1 Stoke City
    Hull City 1-1 Stoke City

    Hull manager Steve Bruce on Stoke being awarded a dubious throw-in in the build up to their equaliser: "It baffles me. It is an awful one. The throw-in was ours and blatantly ours. It is not as though it is faint touch, their boy does not even want to turn round for a throw. You would think they get that right because it has cost us.

    "What can you say? We had an awful one last one week as well but it riles me a decision should be given, why can they not say in his ear 'you have got that one wrong'. It only takes 20 seconds. You have the technology."

  118. 15:53: 
    Manager reaction- Hull City 1-1 Stoke City
    Mark Hughes

    Stoke manager Mark Hughes: "The overriding emotion is frustration because we didn't play particularly well. Frustration, but a bit of relief because we got something. We didn't show enough intelligence. We need to be better than that.

    "We didn't create enough chances for the superiority in numbers we had. We are not hitting where we were last season. We wanted to hit the ground running but we haven't quite done that. We didn't deserve a great deal so we are a bit grateful."

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    From Sam in Manchester: Let's just leave the league there eh? From a happy Spurs fan.

    From Ash in Leeds: QPR clearly need a big, commanding centre-back to shore up their defence. What's Chris Samba up to these days?

  120. 15:51: 
    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    Can Sunderland get a result today? Gus Poyet certainly sounded in buoyant mood in his pre-match news conference.

    "I know the players very well now, there are no doubts," he said. "Last year, I had too many doubts. Now I know exactly the players we have.

    "The squad at the moment is very compact and it's easier to control. Everybody knows exactly what we want apart from the new players, who are trying to get used to it very quickly, so it's better for the team.

    "There are fewer and fewer and fewer excuses, which is good for me."

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    From Joe in Manchester: Those questioning the thinking behind Di Maria's signing need look no further than the poor form of Valencia and Young and the departure of Nani as valid reasons. Also - the window isn't closed yet, fully expect a central midfielder and a utility man to arrive before the end of the window.

    From Sam in Littlehampton: With this new formation that Van Gaal is trying, does it mean that he will play Di Maria at right wing back? He's a great player I just don't see how he'll fit in.

    From Doug in Leyland: Di Maria is a great player but anything over £40m is too much. Why not use that money to make Dortmund an offer they couldn't refuse for Hummels?

  122. 15:47: 
    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    I like this picture a lot...

    "Come on Rex, let's go for a walk. Let's go and see the Black Cats. Now, where did we put your wig?"

    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)
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    Ogunjide Ayotunde Ayodeji: Sunderland will defeat Man Utd again!

    Shabi Olajide: This is just the right time for Van Gaal to show the Premier League what he's made of.

  124. 15:43: 
    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    One game in, and Louis van Gaal is already saying it will take a "miracle" for Manchester United to win the title this season.

    Van Gaal, 63, says he is trying to rectify an "unbalanced" squad and added: "To win the title this season would be a miracle. But that isn't to say that it isn't possible.

    "The problem I have at United is that the selection is not balanced. There are five number nines and six number 10s - and we don't have enough defenders."

    That's easily solved, Louis. Buy another number 10...

  125. 15:40: 
    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)
    Manager Louis van Gaal of Manchester United signs autographs

    "Hi there Mr van Gaal. Please could you sign my Middlesbrough annual?"

    An interesting choice of pre-match reading for a Sunderland v Manchester United fixture!

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    From Ruairi in Chelsea: This is the second time in recent years that QPR have spent big after winning promotion. It turned out poorly last time and seems to be going the same way again. For a squad of their talent, it is simply not good enough. Clubs with far less money always do better. This time, Redknapp must take some of the blame.

  127. 15:39: 
    Player reaction- Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    Tottenham winger Nacer Chadli tells BBC Sport: "I am happy to make two goals and help us to the win. I think as a team we are more focused and keep out shape defensively and offensively. We are now positive looking forward."

    Guy Mowbray, BBC Match of the Day commentator at the Stadium of LightSunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    "With Manchester United, there's been an issue with the Marcos Rojo paperwork, so we won't be seeing him today. And we won't be seeing Di Maria just yet. I was at the game against Swansea for Match of the Day last week, and United weren't great. It just underlined the work that Louis van Gaal has to do.

    "There's a lot of pressure on the Juan Mata-Robin van Persie-Wayne Rooney attacking triangle. I didn't think Mata got into the game against Swansea, even though it should have suited him. He's got to have a big game this afternoon."

    Guy Mowbray, BBC Match of the Day commentator at the Stadium of LightSunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    "Sunderland are comfortable - but they want to be more than comfortable. They don't want to be fighting relegation again this season.

    "I find their squad such a contradiction. Their strikers are decent, but will they get a bucket load of goals? They have quality in midfield, but no real matchwinners. With the defenders, I wonder about their longevity. Their two goalkeepers are all right. But they want to do more than just struggle."

  130. 15:30: 

    Let's begin our build-up to the afternoon's late kick-off at the Stadium of Light...

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    Gregory P: QPR were mediocre in the Championship and got promoted via the unfairest of play-off wins. This season relegation is the only outcome.

    Jase: Sad to see the true gaffer in Harry go through this! Going to be a long year for the two greats in Hoddle and Harry.

    Daniel Walford: QPR should never have come up...

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham 4-0 QPR

    "All credit to Tottenham. They were fantastic in the first half. QPR were very poor; they were like strangers in the first 45 minutes. In the second half, they simplified it. Going to 4-5-1 helped them. You started to hear all the experienced players open their mouths - because what happens sometimes is that if you're not sure what you're doing, you don't start shouting instructions to your team-mates in case you're wrong. But they stemmed the flow a little more in the second half.

    "Maybe they started the wrong way. The 3-5-2 set-up can save the legs of Rio Ferdinand and Richard Dunne if they do it in the right way. But you need the midfield to close down. Joey Barton didn't get close to Tottenham's midfield. He hasn't led the side. I don't think he's applied himself or got close enough to the opposition. If you don't do that, Tottenham will dictate possession."

    Redknapp points towards the fans
  133. 15:29: 
    Tottenham 4-0 QPR
    Tottenham 4-0 QPR
  134. 15:26: 
    Player reaction- Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    Tottenham defender Eric Dier: "We've done a lot of work on the training ground and it shows with the clean sheets. For me personally it's nice to score another one at the other end as well."

  135. 15:25: 
    As it stands- Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    The Premier League table looks good, Spurs fans...

    Tottenham 4-0 QPR
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    From Andy in Grimsby: I always thought that Harry Redknapp would have to come back to Whte Hart Lane to get Spurs playing at their best!

    From Gary Chapman in London: Unfortunately we won't be playing QPR every week.

    From Matt: Feel really sorry for Harry, treated really badly by Spurs, now has to sit and watch what his side used to do to teams a few seasons ago?! And he got the sack for it! Its a funny old game eh?

  137. 15:21: 
    FULL-TIME- Hull City 1-1 Stoke City

    Honours even at the KC as 10-man Hull come ever so close to pulling off an excellent win.

  138. 15:20: 
    FULL-TIME- Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    The perfect start to life at White Hart Lane for Mauricio Pochettino. Two games, five goals, six points. Top of the league!

  139. 15:19: 
    Hull City 1-1 Stoke City

    Stoke are piling forward now. Is there a late twist?

  140. 15:18: 
    INJURY TIME- Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    Tottenham's Mousa Dembele goes for glory from 35 yards but his effort sails over the bar. We're into time added on...

  141. 15:16: 
    Barton's history lesson- Tottenham 4-0 QPR
    Joey Barton

    Wind the clock back to 24 November last year, when Andre Villas-Boas' Tottenham side were being thumped 6-0 at Manchester City.

    Spurs were overrun in midfield that day, with Sandro playing in a deep role behind Paulinho and Lewis Holtby, and QPR's Joey Barton was unimpressed.

    He tweeted then: "I'd destroy both the midfielders Spurs have wasted money on and I'm a championship player. Albeit, an exceptional one..."

    Holtby is on the bench today, Paulinho is not involved, and as Barton will no doubt acknowledge, Spurs are a little livelier in midfield now...

  142. 15:14: 
    Team news- Sunderland v Manchester United

    The teams are in at a unseasonably chilly Stadium of Light. Sunderland manager Gus Poyet has brought in summer signing Will Buckley for his full debut and defender Santiago Vergini is back in the side after battling injury. Winger Adam Johnson misses out with illness.

    Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal cannot name ineligible new signing Marcos Rojo but has named fit-again pair Robin van Persie and Antonio Valencia in his starting XI. Youngster Tyler Blackett keeps his place in defence.

    Sunderland: Mannone, Vergini, van Aanholt, Brown, O'Shea, Cattermole, Larsson, Rodwell, Buckley, Wickham, Fletcher. Subs: Pantilimon, Jones, Bridcutt, Gomez, Altidore, Mavrias, Roberge.

    Manchester United: De Gea; Jones, Smalling, Blackett; Valencia, Cleverley, Fletcher, Mata, Young; Rooney, van Persie Subs: Amos, M. Keane, James, Kagawa, Hernandez, Welbeck, Januzaj.

  143. 15:10: 
    GOAL- Hull City 1-1 Stoke City - Ryan Shawcross (84 mins)

    It's scrappy, but Stoke have their leveller - Phil Bardsley's shot hitting the inside of the post and, in amongst all the confusion, Ryan Shawcross somehow bundles the ball over the line.

    Hull will be devastated to conceded so late - especially considering that the throw-in which led to the goal should have gone their way. One for Steve Bruce to chew the fat over later.

    Ryan Shawcross scores his teams first goal
    Ryan Shawcross of Stoke City celebrates with team mate Peter Crouch
  144. 15:08: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    One final change for 10-man Hull... George Boyd replacing the goal-scorer Nikica Jelavic.

  145. 15:07: 
    Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    Bojan is showing some real flashes of genius now - putting an almost-perfect ball into the box which Allan McGregor can only parry into the path of Peter Crouch who can't react in time and the goalkeeper gathers the ball at the second attempt. At the other end, David Meyler is wiped out by Asmir Begovic's challenge following Ahmed Elmohamady's high ball. An intriguing eight minutes left.

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    Matt Elms: Last season, Spurs didn't play with any urgency - some of the quickest players in the league are now being utilised. Roll on.

    Vinny Person: Never thought we'd see a standing ovation for Chadli at The Lane. Almost like we've got a whole new squad. There's a new side to them.

    Jonathan Chase: This is probably one of Spurs' best performances since 'Arry left. A lot of great performances around the team.

  147. 15:01: 
    BREAKING TEAM NEWS- Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)

    Robin van Persie starts for Manchester United, as does Antonio Valencia.

    Robin van Persie of Manchester United arrives
    BBC Radio 5 live reporter Paul Walker at the KC StadiumHull 1-0 Stoke

    "I have to say that Stoke are looking pretty toothless up front. It's difficult to see where they are are going to get a goal. Hull are standing firm and holding on."

  149. 14:59: 
    Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    Sometimes it's just not your day. Just ask Stoke's Asmir Begovic who, from a simple goal-kick, pass the ball diagonally out of play. That's one for MOTD 2 later on...

  150. 14:57: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    Stoke make their final change as Charlie Adam comes on to replace Steve Sidwell. The Scot is quickly involved in the game and fires a long-range shot that international team-mate Allan McGregor has to tip over the bar.

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    David Mackey: If Leroy Fer is known as the bouncer, then he's not doing his job as Capoue and Co walked straight in without paying.

    Fahad Khan: This Spurs performance makes you wonder, what was Tim Sherwood actually doing last season??!!

    Ryan Lloyd: I wonder what Barton will have to say about this...

  152. 14:57: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Tottenham 4-0 QPR

    There'll be no match-ball for two-goal hero Nacer Chadli, who is replaced by Harry Kane for the final 20 or so minutes. For QPR, Alejandro Faurlin replaces Leroy Fer.

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    Sheelagh: If only QPR had invested heavily on their defence during the summer.... Oh wait!

    Michael Allen: Trevor Francis was a record British transfer fee of £1 million in 1979. Di Maria £75 million now. At that rate I calculate a player going for £5 billion by 2049.

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham 4-0 QPR

    "Tottenham did there what they've done so well today - breaking with intensity and desire. Adebayor keeps head down, keeps his body over the ball and sidefoots it in. It looks an easy finish, but it's not. Tottenham have done everything you need to do to win a Premier League game."

    Emmanuel Adebayor celebrates
  155. 14:52: 
    GOAL- Tottenham 4-0 QPR - Emmanuel Adebayor (65 mins)

    Poor Harry Redknapp looks like he's lost a pound and found a penny as he sits slumped in his seat - the best seat in the house to view Danny Rose driving down the left and picking out Emmanuel Adebayor for a simple side-footed finish. Tottenham on easy street.

    Emmanuel Adebayor of Spurs scores
  156. 14:52: 
    Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    Bojan is beginning to pull the strings for Stoke now as he drives forward from his own half and plays a slide-rule pass into Peter Crouch. The striker takes a shot, which loops into the direction of Mame Diouf following a deflection off Paul McShane but the striker heads wide.

  157. 14:48: 
    Sunderland v Man Utd (16:00 BST)
    Manager Louis van Gaal and assistant Ryan Giggs of Manchester United arrive

    "Louis, give us a wave..."

    Manchester United have arrived at Sunderland. We'll bring you team news shortly...

  158. 14:48: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    Tottenham bring on Mousa Dembele for Nabil Bentaleb. Straight swap in the middle of the park.

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham 3-0 QPR

    "When Tottenham win possession, they break really quickly. Mauricio Pochettino will be pleased with that. It's much more like the style we were used to when he was at Southampton. Their intensity has been really high."

  160. 14:46: 
    Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    As if Erik Lamela in full-on beast mode isn't bad enough to deal with, QPR now have to cope with Christian Eriksen in full flow. The Spurs playmaker, linking up with Emmanuel Adebayor, works an opening inside the penalty area but his shot is intercepted by Joey Barton before it can test Rob Green.

  161. 14:43: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    Mark Hughes makes his second change of the afternoon - sending on Peter Crouch in place of Marko Arnautovic. Meanwhile, Hull bring on Liam Rosenior for Thomas Ince.

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    Simon Soros: This is the most dominant Spurs side I've seen in a while - albeit against a poor QPR side - and it looks as if the seven transfers paid off.

    Deeps Majumdar: There's something a little CR7 about EL11.

    Mike Hanson: Have Spurs already bettered their goal difference from last season in two games already?

    Tottenham's final goal difference last season: +4. Goal difference so far this season: +4.

  163. 14:41: 
    Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    Stoke are beginning to crank it up now - first Ryan Shawcross drives in a low shot following Marko Arnautovic's clever pull-back from a set-piece, before Bojan's low cross is intercepted by Allan McGregor with Mame Biram Diouf lurking.

  164. 14:39: 
    Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    Tottenham are in no mood to take their foot off the gas - their defenders pushing up to the halfway line and pressuring QPR back into their own half.

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham 3-0 QPR

    "QPR have simplified things by going to four at the back - and perhaps that will help them. But they've got to do the simple things such as winning challenges. Changing tactics alone won't be enough."

  166. 14:37: 
    Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    It's all a bit more measured again from Stoke, who looked a bit panicky after conceding just before the break. They still look powderpuff in the final third though - Peter Odemwingie's cross finding its way to Marko Arnautovic who mis-hits his attempted shot.

  167. 14:34: 
    Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    It looks like QPR have reverted to four at the back for the second half. The horse has already bolted, Harry.

  168. 14:33: 
    KICK-OFF- Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    Likewise at the Lane.

  169. 14:33: 
    KICK-OFF- Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    Game on at the KC...

  170. 14:32: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    QPR make a half-time change - sending on one former Manchester City defender, Nedum Onuoha, for another, Richard Dunne.

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    Mike Holden: If QPR want to turn this round, Joey Barton needs to earn himself a red by saying something stupid to the ref as they're walking off at HT.

    Ah yes, that'll be Manchester City's comeback from three goals down to win an FA Cup fourth-round replay 4-3 at Tottenham in February 2004 after Barton was sent off at half-time. Stranger things have happened, but I can't see a repeat today somehow.

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    Paul Thompson: Hull playing in the image of their manager. Gritty and determined with a never-say-die attitude. Great reaction to losing a man.

    Richard Elliott: Stoke are cementing their status as the season's most overhyped team.

    Steve Wilson, BBC Match of the Day commentator at White Hart LaneHALF-TIME- Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    "A great first half for Tottenham which has left White Hart Lane purring. QPR have been second best by a long way here but that takes nothing away from Eric Lamela who has been the star of the show for the home side."

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    Wayne Andrews: These QPR defenders - you know, Ferdinand, Dunne, etc - they're all novices with precious little big match experience, right?

    Anthony Rayment: If there isn't an Eric Lamela chant to the sound of Umbrella by Rihanna, then there really needs to be.

    Chisomo Kumbuyo: QPR should go back to basic 4-4-2 formation, this new system is not working.

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneHALF-TIME- Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    "What QPR have to do is quite simple - run about and work harder. Tottenham might be three-up, but you can still have some physical contact. If the game plan is too complicated, then simplify it. At the moment, QPR look as if they don't have a clue about their game plan.

    "You can do lots of things about tactics but the basics of football are that you need to run about, close down the opposition and dictate to them. You don't sit back. QPR have shown so much respect to Tottenham, it's unreal. I'm at a loss as to what QPR are trying to do in this game."

    Queens Park Rangers Joey Barton and Rio Ferdinand react
  176. 14:22: 
    Hull City 1-0 Stoke City
    Hull City 1-0 Stoke City
  177. 14:17: 
    HALF-TIME- Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    Hull are fighting like cornered Tigers. And winning.

  178. 14:17: 
    Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    We're still going at the KC where Stoke are desperately pumping the ball forward in a desperate attempt to get the equaliser which will spare them the Sparky hairdryer.

  179. 14:16: 
    HALF-TIME- Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    Three and easy.

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    Paul Moore: Early shout for golden boot ... Eric Dier. Prolific.

    John-Paul: Eric Dier is dream team gold.

    Ben Thapa: Caulker having his best game for Spurs so far...

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham 3-0 QPR

    "I've been part of a promoted team, and you know when you go up that it's going to be more difficult. What you can't do is not have the application. You've got to be a little bit nasty and put the odd challenge in. Tottenham are able to do whatever they want on this pitch.

    "And not one member of the QPR coaching staff has been out once. That would be a concern for the players, because they look lost."

  182. 14:15: 
    Tottenham 3-0 QPR

    It should be 4-0 as Emmanuel Adebayor's shot is deflected wide. Tottenham are rampant.

  183. 14:14: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Hull City 1-0 Stoke City

    That Hull strike will infuriate Mark Hughes who, seconds earlier, had brought off Glenn Whelan in place of Bojan to try and add more creativity to his insipid-looking attack.

  184. 14:11: 
    GOAL- Hull City 1-0 Stoke City - Nikica Jelavic (42 mins)

    Never corner the Tigers! They bite back.

    Steve Bruce's side, down to 10 men, roar into the lead when Nikica Jelavic taps home from four yards after Asmir Begovic had palmed Tom Huddlestone's low shot into his predatory path.

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    Neil Knighton: Dier our current top scorer, Lamela looking good. Spurs might actually score a few goals this season.

    John Pierce: Never fear QPR, we (Everton) battered Arsenal for 75 minutes yesterday and then blew it. Plenty of time left.

    Gavin Richmond: Why do teams not put players on the posts anymore? Dangerous fashion!

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham 3-0 QPR

    "It was a fantastic ball from Lamela, he picks it up and skips past two or three half-hearted challenges. I want to give all credit to the attackers - but the defending has been awful. Defensively, QPR don't know what they're doing. To allow an opponent to go past you without a challenge, as three QPR players did in that move is so, so poor.

    "I think you've got a few QPR players looking around thinking: 'Hold on, I didn't sign up for this.' They're literally standing around. If this is a tactic, it's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. They're doing absolutely nothing defensively."

  187. 14:06: 
    GOAL- Tottenham 3-0 QPR - Nacer Chadli (37 mins)

    This is turning into a rout, and much of the credit has to go to Erik Lamela. The little Argentine is absolutely running the show this afternoon, gliding - this boy doesn't just run - towards the left-hand side of the penalty area before wrapping his foot around the ball and dinking a wonderful ball straight onto the head of the unmarked Nacer Chadli who directs the ball home from six yards out. Majestic.

  188. 14:04: 
    Hull City 0-0 Stoke City

    Andrew Robertson's header clear from a Stoke corner drops to Ryan Shawcross on the edge of the box but the centre-back shanks his effort high and wide. The pressure is mounting from the Potters, though.

    BBC Radio 5 live reporter Paul Walker at the KC StadiumHull 0-0 Stoke

    "Stoke are trying to press home their extra advantage. They have seen more of the ball since James Chester's dismissal - it's been pretty much all them. But Hull are defending manfully when Stoke try to get at them down the sides."

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham 2-0 QPR

    "Those are the details that cost matches - if you don't mark properly at a corner, you get punished. It wasn't an easy finish for Dier because of the angle, and he deserves credit for that. But it's just about power for Dier - he doesn't need too much movement to find the space. QPR's organisation is not good enough and that's a surprise. The little details are costing QPR all over the pitch. It's been a really poor first half for them."

  191. 14:00: 
    GOAL- Tottenham 2-0 QPR - Eric Dier (30 mins)

    He's a good un! Eric Dier scores for the second successive match as he evades his marker - QPR new boy Leroy Fer - and heads home Erik Lamela's corner at the near post. Cue a flood of people transferring this goalscoring defender into their Fantasy Football teams.

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    Daniel Kelly: That miss from Matt Phillips shows why QPR are going back to the Championship! Not good enough for the Premier League.

    Edward Herbert: Danny Rose looks like a new player since Pochettino arrived. Ben Davies is going to have a hard time breaking into the first team.

  193. 13:59: 
    Tottenham 1-0 QPR

    QPR are not getting much out of Loic Remy up front today. He continues to lose possession, allowing Tottenham to pour forward almost at will. Eric Dier certainly needs no invitation to launch raid after raid down the right. He looks like a modern full-back - it's not enough to be able to just defend anymore. It's the same in cricket... tail-enders are expected to be able to bat.

  194. 13:57: 
    HITS THE WOODWORK- Tottenham 1-0 QPR

    Tottenham are well on top here and Christian Eriksen is unlucky not to add a second goal with a beautifully struck free-kick from 25 yards which rattles the crossbar with Rob Green well beaten.

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    Kelvin: James Chester - Score a goal in first game of the season. Get a red card for the second. Third? Streak during his ban?

    Shohidur Rahman: I don't understand why after only 15 minutes you would take the guy out if you're the last man. Stupid defending from Chester.

    RobT: Can't help but feel that, in some ways, the red card will galvanise Hull today.

    James Chester
  196. 13:55: 
    Hull City 0-0 Stoke City

    Stoke are seeing plenty of the ball since James Chester's red card and they are slowly beginning to fashion some serious chances. First Peter Odemwingie stands up a deep cross from the right and Steven N'Zonzi's header is blocked, before the ball runs loose and Erik Pieters lashes a powerful shot over the bar.

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham 1-0 QPR

    "You can have tactics, but ultimately it's about players getting in behind the defence and in on goal. Matt Phillips tried to dink it and got too much on it, but that's given QPR something to hold on to. If Tottenham don't stay honest, Phillips can get in behind their defence."

  198. 13:52: 
    WHAT A MISS!- Tottenham 1-0 QPR

    QPR spurn a glorious opportunity to level the scores... Matt Phillips latching on to a long ball forward and getting in behind Younes Kaboul but, after a wonderful first touch, the winger blazes his effort over the bar with only the keeper to beat.

    Phillips need only to ask David Nugent how costly such misses can be...

  199. 13:50: 
    Tottenham 1-0 QPR

    Tottenham's Eric Dier is playing like Cafu down that right flank. He's absolutely flying and, with Erik Lamela pulling the strings in the hole, it's proving to be an uncomfortable afternoon for the returning Harry Redknapp and Glenn Hoddle.

  200. 13:49: 
    CLOSE!- Tottenham 1-0 QPR

    Spurs almost punish QPR with a counter attack led by Jan Vertonghen, but Armand Traore makes a vital interception which means Emmanuel Adebayor is stretching to shoot and can only tamely direct his effort straight at visiting goalkeeper Robert Green.

  201. 13:44: 
    RED CARD- Hull City 0-0 Stoke City - James Chester (14 mins)

    Disaster for Hull. Poor James Chester is sold short by Jake Livermore's horrible back-pass which allows Glenn Whelan to race towards goal, where the Irishman is brought down on the edge of the box by the last man Chester. The referee reaches for the red card and Hull are reduced to 10 men. That's the last thing you need after a heavy Thursday night in Belgium.

    James Chester
    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart Lane

    "QPR had a warning earlier when Adebayor beat Dunne to ball a few moments ago. Richard Dunne has to get something on that ball in - and doesn't. He gets caught underneath it, makes a half-hearted effort to get on the ball, and Chadli finishes very neatly."

  203. 13:41: 
    GOAL- Tottenham 1-0 QPR - Nacer Chadli (12 mins)

    It's been coming. Moments after Emmanuel Adebyaor heads over the bar, Tottenham find themselves in front - Loic Remy being bundled off the ball deep into his own half and paying the full price as Spurs sweep forward.

    Adebayor is again at the heart of the move down the right and his cross to the back stick is expertly chested down by Nacer Chadli and rifled past Robert Green from six yards out. You don't save them.

  204. 13:38: 
    Hull City 0-0 Stoke City

    Hull's template is clear - get at Stoke down the flanks. Rather than hugging the touchline however, the Tigers are drifting slightly inside and Andrew Robertson's excellent cross is, like Dier's effort below, just too close to the goalkeeper to pose a serious problem.

  205. 13:37: 
    Tottenham 0-0 QPR

    QPR are in AC Milan-style red and black shirts today, while the majority of the team seem to be wearing luminous yellow boots. You wouldn't catch Franco Baresi going with that combo.

    Still Spurs continue to dominate the early stages and Eric Dier bursts forward down the right and puts in a teasing ball which is just too close to QPR goalkeeper Rob Green.

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    Tom Fisk: Di Maria deal makes no sense. Too good for the bench but not too good to be without Champions League football? Not a centre back! Real are the winners in this deal.

    Keval Shah: It's quite simple. Man Utd need a world class central midfielder and Di Maria proved last season he can play in central midfield at a world class level.

    Luke Michell: How is buying a world class player a panic buy? The defence will be improved before deadline day.

  207. 13:34: 
    Hull City 0-0 Stoke City

    No chances as yet at the KC, but a barnstorming start all the same - Hull attacking down both flanks and pinging balls into the general direction of the penalty area and Stoke quick to counter at the other end. You can blame me if not... but I reckon there's a few goals in this one.

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham 0-0 QPR

    "After all the build-up towards his first home game, it was almost as if Mauricio Pochettino sneaked out there. Harry Redknapp did a fantastic job at Tottenham and laid down the foundations for his successors."

  209. 13:32: 
    Tottenham 0-0 QPR

    Tottenham are on the front foot straight away - pressuring Armand Traore into a mistake and the ball finds its way to Erik Lamela whose shot from the edge of the area is deflected wide.

  210. 13:30: 
    KICK-OFF- Tottenham 0-0 QPR

    A false start at WHL, but we're also up and running in north London.

  211. 13:30: 
    KICK-OFF- Hull City 0-0 Stoke City

    Stoke City get us under way at a sun-drenched KC Stadium...

  212. 13:29: 
    Man Utd's guardian Angel?

    Spanish football journalist Guillem Balague: Di Maria will travel to Manchester tomorrow afternoon and wants all sorted to play against Burnley - with the number 7.

    Manchester United visit Burnley in the Premier League next Saturday - it's a 12:45 BST kick-off.

  213. 13:28: 
    Hull City v Stoke City (13:30 BST)

    Hull head into the match after a Europa League game in midweek and manager Steve Bruce said: "I made a conscious decision that the vast majority of players who have been here for the past few years and got us into the Premier League deserve the chance to play in Europe.

    "But we hope we have enough freshness so that we can complete in the Premier League."

    On Robert Snodgrass's injury, Bruce added: "It's a huge setback for us, or any club when your big summer singing is out injured. It's a devastating blow. We will miss his midfield creativity."

    On today's game he said: "I'm like a broken record. I just said in there that it is vitally important to begin with a home win."

  214. 13:27: 
    Tottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)

    It's a who's who at White Hart Lane as Tottenham royalty take their seats in the stands - Chris Hughton, Jamie Redknapp and Les Ferdinand are all sat in today's viewing gallery.

  215. 13:26: 
    Hull City v Stoke City (13:30 BST)

    The players line up side by side at the KC. Hull skipper Curtis Davies puts his arm around the mascot and talks to them all the way onto the pitch. It's time for some handshakes now.

  216. 13:22: 
    Tottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)

    We've got eight minutes to go until kick-off. The cameras at White Hart Lane pick out punters eating chips, leafing through the programme and others just stood around waiting - now wishing they had dug out a fiver for the 'matchday magazine'.

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    From Dan in London: I don't think anyone's "bitter" than Man Utd might be signing Di Maria, more astonished they've signed no other central defenders or central midfielders that they're desperately lacking.

  218. 13:20: 
    Tottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)
    Steve Wilson

    Pre-match drama for MOTD2 commentator Steve Wilson at White Hart Lane, courtesy of his Sky counterpart Ian Crocker:

    "The coffee on my Spurs notes came free with Ian Crocker - thanks Crocks."

    Still read fine to me, Steve. Is it me or do Steve's notes look like a racecard? I'll have a tenner on number 9. What do you mean he's a non-runner?

  219. 13:17: 
    Follow the action on the go
    BBC Sport push alerts on mobiles

    Are you out and about today but want to get your team's line-up as it's announced, goals as they go in and the final result as the referee blows his whistle? Push alerts within the BBC Sport app mean you can follow your team's games as they happen, wherever you are.

    The app is freely available from Google Play for Android devices, the App Store for iPhones, and the UK Amazon Kindle Fire Appstore.

    Go on... treat yourself. It is, in my obviously very biased opinion, very good.

  220. 13:16:  
    Former Republic of Ireland international Kevin Kilbane, MOTD2 ExtraTottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)

    "Staying up will be QPR's priority, first and foremost - and they've got enough in the ranks to do that. Rio Ferdinand did make a mistake last week against Hull for James Chester's winning goal, but he will benefit them."

  221. 13:14: 
    Tottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)

    It's that time of year again, isn't it? You know... the time of year when Harry Redknapp's electric windows get worn out quicker than an F1 driver's tyres.

    And the QPR boss has this week hinted he is keen to sign Manchester United's Wilfried Zaha if the winger was available on loan. He also said he was confident striker Loic Remy would still be at Loftus Road at the end of the transfer window.

    "I've spoken with Loic," said Redknapp. "He's been excellent in training and his attitude has been world class.

    "Unless a top six club comes in, I think he'll be happy to stay here. He's seen we've brought some good players in."

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    Mark Lynch: Signing Di Maria is really going to sort out Man Utd's appalling defence isn't it?

    Chris Stridgen: Utd in for Di Maria for £63m?? Panic buy! Makes the Balotelli deal look careful and considered.

    Tigist GG Silasie: United would be better of investing in the cloning of Sir Alex. What is van Gaal talking about? I thought he was the miracle.

  223. 13:09: 
    Hull City v Stoke City (13:30 BST)

    Stoke manager Mark Hughes, who heads into this match off the back of a 1-0 defeat to Aston Villa, said: "It's early days and everyone is trying to find their feet. I'm encouraged by what I saw this week and we are hoping for a better result."

    Asked if Hull's Europa League commitments might have an impact, Hughes added: "It's difficult to manage a season of European football without the strength and depth. But as long as Steve manages the group well they will be fine."

  224. 13:08: 
    Tottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)
    Tottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)
  225. 13:03: 
    What happened?- Tottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)
    Tottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)

    Is it fair to say some Spurs fans are a little puzzled as to why Harry Redknapp left the club? Yes, there was talk of him wanting the England job before being overlooked... but he was building a decent team, right?

    Anyway, 'Arry says he was never told why he was sacked but his opinion on what is expected of new manager Mauricio Pochettino might offer come clues.

    "They have got to be pushing for the top four," Redknapp said. "There's nothing else. If you don't finish in the top four, it's a disappointment for Tottenham. That's where they were for a couple of years when I was there. That's where they expect to be.

    "I like the manager. He had good players at Southampton. I think he did a great job at Southampton and I'm sure he'll do a great job at Tottenham. I am hoping he does well."

    Steve Wilson, BBC Match of the Day commentator at White Hart LaneTottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)

    "Spurs can play better than they have so far this season, but they have won both matches. They didn't get back to England until 4am on Friday after their Europa League game, I'm told, so it will be interesting to see if that has an effect on them. Mauricio Pochettino has started all right, though."

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    Connor Matchett: Woodward hasn't grasped the fact that United need to spend big for players we need, and we've instead missed out on everyone.

    Shaun: Di Maria is just a better version of Ashley Young. Good, quick player. Needs to knock the diving on the head though.

    Liam Mullane: "Desperation" from Man Utd to sign the best winger in World football last season? Someone's upset their team didn't sign him.

  228. 12:57: 
    Mario Balotelli: Good for Liverpool?

    More from Sunday Telegraph football writer Jason Burt on MOTD2 Extra: "There was an interesting piece by Graeme Souness in the Sunday Times today. He made the point that when he was coach of Italy, Cesare Prandelli went to great lengths to get Mario Balotelli on the straight and narrow.

    "After the World Cup, Prandelli was asked if he had any regrets, and he said: 'Picking Balotelli.' There's a reason why he's been bombed out of so many clubs."

  229. 12:55: 
    Mario Balotelli: Good for Liverpool?
    Mario Balotelli: Good for Liverpool?

    Sunday Telegraph football writer Jason Burt on MOTD2 Extra: "I remember seeing Balotelli play for Manchester City at West Brom. He got booked, and Roberto Mancini was frantically trying to substitute him. But before he could do that, Balotelli got sent off.

    "He is a risk. That's why Brendan Rodgers said during their pre-season tour that he wouldn't be signing Balotelli. Something has changed."

  230. 12:52: 
    Mario Balotelli: Good for Liverpool?

    Aston Villa's former Manchester City goalkeeper Shay Given, speaking to MOTD2 Extra: "I was with Mario at Manchester City, and a lot of stuff you read is pie in the sky… or fireworks in the sky, if you like. He wasn't a problem. He's a big kid. He does stupid things and he's always winding people up. I think at £16m, he's a snip. I think it's a great deal."

  231. 12:50:  
    Former Republic of Ireland international Kevin Kilbane, MOTD2 ExtraMario Balotelli: Good for Liverpool?

    "There are no real characters in dressing rooms today. Players are brought up in such a way that they're very robotic. Someone with a bit of character is frowned upon. Someone like Balotelli is what Liverpool need.

    "Brendan Rodgers worked in youth-team football, and there would have been a number of dysfunctional kids he had to nurture, and he's brought them through. There were questions over Daniel Sturridge and he brought him through. Every single transfer is a risk."

  232. 12:49: 

    Over on Match of the Day 2 Extra, conversation has turned to a certain Mr Mario Balotelli, who is set for a £16m move to Liverpool...

  233. 12:48: 
    Hull City v Stoke City (13:30 BST)

    There's a lot of mutual respect between the managers of these two sides, and Steve Bruce is hoping his Hull side can emulate Stoke and become part of the Premier League furniture for years to come.

    Both sides were promoted to the Premier League in 2008 but, while the Potters have remained in England's top tier ever since, Hull's stay lasted only two seasons and they only returned to the Premier League last year after three Championship campaigns.

    "That has to be my aim, to copy something like Stoke," said Bruce. "They have a nucleus of some very good players. Mark Hughes is changing the way they want to play and they are a good side."

  234. 12:44: 
    Hull City v Stoke City (13:30 BST)
    Hull City v Stoke City (13:30 BST)
  235. 12:43: 
    Team news- Hull City v Stoke City (13:30 BST)

    Hull boss Steve Bruce makes two changes to the team that beat QPR on the opening day. Stephen Quinn comes in for the injured Robert Snodgrass and centre-back Alex Bruce is replaced by Paul McShane.

    Mark Hughes also makes two changes to his Stoke side. Steve Sidwell is handed his first start since joining the club from Fulham and Nigeria forward Peter Odemwingie returns to the team after recuperating from his exertions at the World Cup.

    Hull City: McGregor; Chester, McShane, Davies; Elmohamady, Livermore, Huddlestone, Quinn, Robertson, Ince; Jelavic. Subs: Rosenior, Figueroa, Bruce, Meyler, Boyd, Harper, Aluko.

    Stoke City XI: Begovic; Bardsley, Shawcross, Wilson, Pieters; Nzonzi, Whelan, Odemwingie, Sidwell, Arnautovic; Diouf. Subs: Muniesa, Adam, Walters, Cameron, Crouch, Bojan, Sorensen.

  236. 12:36: 
    'Desperation from Man Utd'

    Sunday Telegraph football writer Jason Burt on MOTD2: "I think Real Madrid are trying to create a market for Angel Di Maria. Paris St-Germain were interested earlier in the summer, then walked away from a deal. It doesn't look like they'll come back. Real tried to indicate last week that Manchester City were interested. They're trying to tell Manchester United that there's a market for him.

    "If United go in with a bid of £60m, I think it will happen. But to me, it smacks a bit of desperation from a club who promised so much more in terms of their dealings this summer."

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    Jack of all Trades: The latest reports of £75million for di Maria are hilarious. It's just Woodward's incompetence.

    Liam Wood: Old 'Arry always had too much to say. Today....silence. Spurs 2-0 - Lamela and Eriksen.

    Zach: Hull and Stoke to draw. Mark Hughes has got to be the better manager, turning a physical Stoke side into tiki taka.

  238. 12:34: 
    Di Maria close to Man Utd move?
    Angel Di Maria

    Perhaps the biggest news of the morning is that Manchester United could be close to a reported British record £60m deal for Real Madrid winger Angel Di Maria.

    Certainly the Argentine appears to be packing his bags to leave Spain, after his manager Carlo Ancelotti said this morning: "Angel Di Maria has not trained with us today and he came in to say goodbye to the players and people at the club.

    "We are thankful for what he has done at this club. There is nothing official yet but it is being sorted out. I am very happy with the work that he has done for Madrid but we have the chance to replace him well.

    "The decision is his and the club has done what it could to keep him here but he thought differently and so good luck to him."

  239. 12:30: 
    BREAKING TEAM NEWS- Tottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)

    Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino recalls Younes Kaboul, Danny Rose, Christian Eriksen, Emmanuel Adebayor and Etienne Capoue to his starting line-up after they all sat out the midweek Europa League win over Limassol.

    QPR boss Harry Redknapp hands a debut to Dutch midfielder Leroy Fer following his £8m from Norwich, while Chile defender Mauricio Isla also makes his first appearance since joining on loan from Juventus.

    Tottenham: Lloris, Dier, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Rose, Bentaleb, Capoue, Chadli, Eriksen, Lamela, Adebayor. Subs: Lennon, Soldado, Holtby, Kane, Dembele, Friedel, Davies.

    QPR: Green, Caulker, Ferdinand, Dunne, Isla, Mutch, Barton, Fer, Traore, Phillips, Remy. Subs: Simpson, Wright-Phillips, Onuoha, Faurlin, Murphy, Hoilett, Zamora.

  240. 12:29: 
    'Torres staying put'

    Chelsea don't have any such problems with their new big-money summer signing. Diego Costa has hit the ground running and scored again in yesterday's victory over Leicester. But where does that leave Fernando Torres?

    Torres is the club's third-choice striker since the summer arrivals of Costa and Didier Drogba. He has been linked with a number of clubs, with AC Milan the latest reportedly interested in signing him.

    But Mourinho said: "I want him to stay. He will play and score goals, and be very useful for us."

  241. 12:26: 
    Problems for the Gunners?

    Concerns remain for Arsenal fans, however. Their defence still appears to struggle against big, powerful strikers and a lack of a midfield enforcer is still apparent. BBC Sport's Chris Bevan has been analysing the issues.

    Then there's Alexis Sanchez. He's just not slotted in yet, has he? Not that manager Arsene Wenger is concerned.

    "He is not ready physically but I am not worried about him," said Wenger. "Once he will be at his best physically his confidence will come back."

    I hope he comes good... he's in my fantasy team! At what stage do I recoup my £10.5m imaginary investment?

  242. 12:21: 
    A quick recap

    What happened yesterday, then? Well, Chelsea are sitting pretty at the top of the embryonic Premier League table after picking up another victory, this time against Leicester. However, the performance of the day was probably Arsenal's fightback from two goals down to earn a draw at Everton.

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    Guy in Reading: Hope Spurs fans give Harry the welcome he deserves after what he achieved with the club. But hope they give Pochettino an ever bigger cheer for his first home game of the season. COYS!

    Former Blackburn striker Jason Roberts, BBC Radio 5 live summariser at White Hart LaneTottenham v QPR (13:30 BST)

    "The question is: What does Mauricio Pochettino have to do to be judged a success at Tottenham? Many people would say he needs a top-four position, but if you look at what other clubs have done in the transfer market this summer, it doesn't look like he has the kind of squad to challenge.

    "I don't think he's got the team playing with the high intensity and pressure he had at Southampton. I think that will be difficult with the squad he has."

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    What are your predictions for today then? Will Harry get one over on his old side? Who is the better manager: Steve Bruce or Mark Hughes? What does Louis van Gaal need to do to get Manchester United purring again?

    Plenty of questions, and I'm looking at you to provide the answers.

    It's easy to get involved: tweet us using #bbcfootball, send a text to 81111 or post comments on our Facebook and Google+ pages.

  246. 12:10:  
    MOTD2 Extra

    How's Sunday treating you so far? Had a leisurely flick through the papers? Tucking into a nice breakfast? Maybe you're out and about ticking off a few jobs.

    Whether your are sat in the armchair or browsing the local DIY store, the wonders of modern technology allow you to follow us throughout the afternoon. Our first offering is Match of the Day 2 Extra, which is on BBC Two at 12:15 BST. You can also follow via this website. Just don't trip over any toddlers, step-ladders or stray buckets of paints in the DIY shop while you are watching on the move!

  247. 12:07: 
    Coming up

    Afternoon everyone. You well?

    As you might have gathered from my opening gambit, Harry Redknapp's QPR side visit Tottenham today while the old friends theme continues when ex-Manchester United team-mates Steve Bruce and Mark Hughes see their Hull and Stoke sides collide at the KC Stadium.

    I'm not quite sure if Sunderland boss Gus Poyet and Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal have moved in the same circles very much, but they too are on a collision course in the day's late kick-off.

    Ah, Sunday football... it's good to have you back.

  248. 12:00: 
    The boys are back in town
    Glenn Hoddle & Harry Redknapp

    It's always nice to meet up with old friends, isn't it?

    Remember Glenn? You used to knock about with him in the seventies and eighties. He was really good at football and pretty cool to boot. He had it all.

    And what about Harry? What a 'triffic bloke he was... you shared some top, top times together. Remember that night in Milan? You'll tell the grandkids about that one.

    Nowadays, both Glenn and Harry are a little older, a little wiser and hanging round with a different group in the capital.

    The years might have ticked by, but the fondness you feel for those two geezers endures. It'll be good to see them again today.

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As It Stood Table

Last updated 24 Aug 2014 UK

Barclays Premier League summary table; it charts each team by position, team name, games played, total goal difference and points
Position Team Played Goal Difference Points
Moving up 1 Tottenham 2 5 6
Moving down 2 Chelsea 2 4 6
Moving down 3 Swansea 2 2 6
Moving down 4 Arsenal 2 1 4
Moving up 5 Hull 2 1 4
Moving down 6 Aston Villa 2 1 4
Moving down 7 Man City 1 2 3
Moving down 8 West Ham 2 1 3
Moving down 9 Liverpool 1 1 3
No movement 10 Everton 2 0 2
Moving up 11 Sunderland 2 0 2
Moving down 12 West Brom 2 0 2
Moving up 13 Man Utd 2 -1 1
Moving down 14 Southampton 2 -1 1
Moving up 15 Stoke 2 -1 1
Moving down 16 Leicester 2 -2 1
Moving down 17 Newcastle 2 -2 1
Moving up 18 Crystal Palace 2 -3 0
Moving up 19 Burnley 2 -3 0
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