World Cup qualifiers as they happened

Live text commentary as England defeat San Marino and Wales stun Scotland in World Cup qualifiers after England U21s defeat Serbia.

12 October 2012 Last updated at 22:59

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  1. 2237: 

    Right then, this is the bit where I say goodbye. It's a been a great night for Wales, a good one for England (senior and U21s), a bad one for Scotland and an atrocious one for the Republic of Ireland. Join Phil Dawkes on Tuesday for more of the same, when Northern Ireland join the party. I'll see you soon... cheerio for now.

  2. 2235: 

    Before I head off into the night, here's a bit more from Wayne Rooney, speaking to BBC Radio 5 live about his performance and looking at the Poland game next week:

    "It was a great feeling tonight. I'm really proud, and thankfully we got the victory. We could have scored a few more, but there were some great saves from the keeper.

    "It was difficult out there. We had to move the ball quickly and create that space for ourselves. Thankfully we got five goals.

    "It's going to be a tough game in Warsaw. They are a tough counter-attacking team and so we have to prepare as best we can for Tuesday night."

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    Cai M via text: "Seriously England fans, what score would you have been happy with? Do you really think it's rational going into any game of football expecting to win seven or eight nil?"

    Lee in Kingsclere via text: "Whether England won 10-0 or 1-0 it's the same result - three points. The scoreline today is completely irrelevant."

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    Rio Ferdinand, capped 81 times by England, tweets: "Did I say 5-0 England..... err, yes! Love it lads! Congratulations to Wales winning their first game under Chris Coleman."

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    England are now top of Group H, and with a healthy-looking +10 goal difference after taking seven points from their first three games.

    Meanwhile, in Group C, the Republic of Ireland's 6-1 hammering at home by Germany leaves them third on three points, and with somewhat less healthy-looking goal difference of -4 after two games. Germany are top with three wins out of three, followed by Sweden with two wins out of two.

  6.   
    Phil McNulty at Wembley, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer

    "England win in routine fashion. Wayne Rooney moves up the goalscoring charts and Danny Welbeck shows his knack for an instinctive finish. More serious business will take place against Poland in Warsaw on Tuesday."

  7. 2218: 

    Hmmm, it was indeed a rash challenge by Aldo Simoncini on Walcott but not sure that was ever a penalty to England. For a start, Simoncini got the ball first.

  8. 2217: 

    Here is Roy Hodgson on that Theo Walcott incident. Like I said, he's not happy...

    "Theo is in hospital and it was a very nasty chest injury. He is being scanned now. It was a very fierce attack on him and I don't think for a minute the keeper did it deliberately, but it was a very rash challenge. In normal circumstances he would have been sent off and we would have gone 1-0 up from a penalty earlier on.

    "We have had a bad injury which I'm very disappointed about. Had the referee given the penalty and sent the keeper off, which he should have done, we would have scored more goals."

  9. 2216: 

    And, although he wasn't very pleased with the challenge that injured Theo Walcott, England boss Roy Hodgson seems satisfied with five goals and three points.

    "I thought we were very patient," Hodgson said. "We passed the ball well from the first minute to the last and played the way we wanted to play. We kept probing. It was always going to be hard to find clear-cut chances but I am more than happy with how the players worked very, very hard to keep the passing tempo up and to keep the ball.

    "I think it's churlish if one was to start criticising if we've won 5-0. We've won the game comfortably.

    "I've got to go away satisfied with the week's work. I think we've entertained such a big crowd."

  10. 2210: 

    On a happier note, here is England's Danny Welbeck on his latest backheel goal for his country, to go with the one he bagged against Sweden at Euro 2012.

    "It is something I try to do when I get those positions, today it came off," Welbeck said. "In every game you want to score a goal but that was my first of the season, which made it more important."

  11. 2209: 

    News of Theo Walcott now. England boss Roy Hodgson says the Arsenal forward is in hospital, and will stay in overnight. Walcott was forced off, in pain, after a collision with the San Marino keeper in the first half.

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    England captain Wayne Rooney on moving fifth in England's all-time goalscoring list after scoring twice against San Marino: "Obviously it's a great honour for me - there are some great players up there.

    "To be in England's top five goalscorers, I'm extremely proud. But I'm only 26 and I hope I can score a lot more."

  13. 2204: 

    England, by the way, head for Poland on Tuesday. I suspect we will probably get a better idea of what shape their qualifying campaign is in from that game in Warsaw, than the attack-versus-defence session we saw at Wembley tonight.

  14.  
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    Chris Mitchell on Twitter: "Absolutely pathetic from England. Aside from Wayne Rooney the players and especially the manager should be embarrassed."

    Dave Worley on Twitter: "For me, England are guilty of showing off tonight. Germany and Holland battered San Marino by being ruthless. England messed about."

    Richard Daniels on Twitter: "One player doesn't make a team but Bale comes damn close. Incredible performance. Wales's campaign is underway."

  15.   
    BBC Radio 5 live

    Former England left-back Graeme Le Saux on 5 live Sport: "Against Poland I expect there to be a couple of changes. Hodgson can't have learned an awful lot from this evening. You've got to look at Poland as a team who offer a huge threat. We have to be strong at the back. Ultimately, where England have to look to improve is the way they break teams down. Tonight proved that every opportunity they created came from down the sides."

  16.   
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Wembley

    On England's performance: "The job has been done. They've delivered a 5-0 win. We won't say that was magnificent or wonderful, because people think when a side come and camp in their final third it should be easy to play against. It is not easy. England could have scored more, but job done and onto the next game."

  17. 2203: 

    So, Wales are deliriously happy, Scotland are seriously dejected... what about England? A 5-0 win, yes, but it WAS only teeny-weeny San Marino.

    England captain Wayne Rooney, who got two goals at Wembley, seems happy enough, saying: "We created some good chances and their keeper made some good saves and maybe there was a bit of poor finishing.

    "But it is not easy when they have 10 or 11 men behind the ball and defend. It's difficult to break them down. Five goals is still not a bad result."

  18. 2159: 

    Hmmm. It's fair to say that Scotland boss Craig Levein sees things rather differently to Chris Coleman...

    Levein said: "The officials got it wrong (disallowing our second goal) and, as the game panned out, that second goal was crucial for us and not getting it was a body blow.

    "1-0 is a dangerous score but we didn't feel under pressure at all, I am not really sure my goalkeeper had a save to make. I am amazed that we have come in after that game and we have lost it.

    "We didn't play as well in the second half as we did in the first but we didn't feel under pressure. Of course we know how good a player Gareth is, once he gets into full flow he is very difficult to top.

    "But from my point of view I am just devastated that the game has panned out the way it has. Having a goal chalked off is really difficult to take. An official's mistake cost us in the last qualifying campaign and that has cost us again. This is very difficult to take."

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    Riz from Glasgow via text: "As a Scotland supporter I'm not surprised at all. Well done Wales, they fought hard and deserved the result. I think its time for Craig to be leveining us now!"

    Kieran via text: "Craig Levein has to go. Yes Gareth Bale is a fantastic player and he won it for Wales, but before that penalty changes had to be made. Scotland needed an out ball - Forrest who came on and done that job for Celtic in Moscow was on the bench. Why wasn't the change made? Obvious decision."

  20. 2156: 

    Next up for Wales? A trip to Croatia on Tuesday night.

    The Croats beat Macedonia tonight and are second in Group A on seven points. Wales have moved up to fourth, above Scotland, on three points - and they will be full of confidence after tonight's result.

  21. 2155: 

    Chris Coleman, off the mark at last with his first win as Wales boss, celebrates his side's win over Scotland: "I thought we got what we deserved tonight, we were the better team.

    "Scotland scored against the run of play but we were brave tonight and overall we moved the ball very well. Any time you win as a manager is a relief but two great goals by a great player has done it for us.

    "Gareth Bale played on the right side tonight, he likes to cut in and when you have that threat in your side, you always have a chance. At 1-0 down we could have felt sorry for ourselves but we didn't, we kept going, kept going and showed great character. We got what we deserved. I honestly believe that."

  22. 2153: 
    FULL-TIME- England 5-0 San Marino
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    Dominic Todd on Twitter: "5-0 might look good, but anybody who watched this game will agree that it just isn't good enough."

    Iain Moss on Twitter: "I'm surprised Joe Hart's not out there reading a book!"

    Leo Gethings on Twitter: "And to think, Germany scored more tonight then against the Faroe Islands..."

  24.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "Football can leave you numb at times. Despite appearing to have weathered more than one Cardiff storm, Scotland's World Cup dreams are shattered by the Wales number 11. Gareth Bale makes the game look easy and has sunk the hopes of every Scot tonight."

  25. 2150: 

    There will be three added minutes at Wembley. England are getting a little bit desperate in their search for more goals, with Gary Cahill taking a pot-shot and blasting over from 30 yards out.

  26.  
    WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS ROUND-UP

    Pedro Rodriguez scored a hat-trick as Spain coasted to a resounding 4-0 victory over Belarus in Group I. Elsewhere, Belgium have become the first team to beat Serbia in a home World Cup qualifier for more than 10 years, as they eased to a 2-0 victory in Belgrade. Belgium now sit top Group A, with Croatia moving into second after a 2-1 win over Macedonia. In Group D, leaders Netherlands have coasted to a comfortable 3-0 victory over lowly Andorra thanks to goals from former Tottenham midfielder Rafael Van der Vaart, Klaas-Jan Huntelaar and Ruben Schaken. While in Group E, leaders Switzerland were held to a 1-1 draw by Norway, allowing Iceland to draw level at the top of the table with a 2-1 victory over Albania. In the same group Slovenia beat Cyprus 2-0. Slovakia remain in control of Group G after a 2-1 win over Latvia.

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    Infostrada Sports on Twitter: "Ireland 1-6 Germany. Germany are unbeaten in their last 16 World Cup qualifying matches. Their last defeat was in September 2001 at home v England: 1-5."

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    Match-winner Gareth Bale on his two goals that saw Wales fight back to beat Scotland: "We all knew it was a massive game for us. We let ourselves and the nation down against Serbia (when they lost 6-1), and we wanted to put things right. We fought back like men tonight and got a great result.

    On his penalty, which he won and scored from: "He clipped my leg and I couldn't stay on my feet. It was a penalty and it was nice to get up and slot it away.

    And his wonder strike: "For the second, there was space in front of me and I drove in, hit the shot and was delighted to see it go in. We needed this win to kick-start this campaign."

  29. 2147: 

    I reckon a 5-0 defeat is a decent result from San Marino's point of view, bearing in mind they shipped 11 against the Dutch last year. They are still defending desperately, as if it is still 0-0 in their minds, and they have only got one more minute of the 90 to hold out.

  30. 2145: 

    So, as things stand, Germany got more goals against the Republic of Ireland than England have managed against San Marino. Roy Hodgson will be unhappy about that... (and still has five minutes or so to change it) but Giovanni Trapattoni will be absolutely distraught.

  31.   
    Danny Mills, BBC Radio 5 live at Wembley

    "I've been a little disappointed with Kyle Walker tonight. His final ball and final touch have not been as good as usual. He will be disappointed with that."

  32. 2142: 

    So, Wales boss Chris Coleman avoids all those nasty statistics I mentioned at the start of the night (check out 1828). As you might have already gathered, he has one man to thank for his first win as manager of his country.

  33.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "The Scotland players and supporters look utterly shell-shocked. Gareth Bale grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck and the Scots are left to rue missed chances once again. Penny for Craig Levein's thoughts?"

  34.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "Wales need more than Gareth Bale if they are going to progress, going to qualify. Scotland desperately needed something from tonight, but they didn't get it. The rebuilding continues. I would put all I have on them not making Rio."

  35. 2139: 

    A late change for San Marino and it is their goal machine* Andy Selva, who has scored eight of the 19 goals they have managed in their history, coming on. He is 36 now but would have started if he wasn't carrying an injury.

    * of sorts.

  36. 2138: 
    FULL-TIME- Republic of Ireland 1-6 Germany
  37.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "Scotland didn't play particularly badly tonight, but this was all down to Gareth Bale. He is a world-class player and there wasn't another world-class player on the pitch, and it showed. He scored his penalty then made and scored a fantastic goal."

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    Cash O'Sullivan on Twitter: "I think Bale is overrated but that is absolutely brilliant."

    Andy on Twitter: "I think this might be Craig Levein's standing-in-the-rain night. Missing an umbrella though."

    David Hawkins on Twitter: "Joe Hart is the world's loneliest footballer tonight."

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    GOAL- Republic of Ireland 1-6 Germany - Andy Keogh (92 mins)

    Andy Keogh heads in for the Republic of Ireland in stoppage-time. It is virtually the last action of the game.

  40. 2136: 
    FULL-TIME- Wales 2-1 Scotland

    Or, you could call it Gareth Bale 2-1 Scotland

  41. 2136: 
    GOAL- England 5-0 San Marino - Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (77 mins)

    This is turning into a respectable scoreline for England at Wembley. Leighton Baines' cross is helped on by Danny Welbeck for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain to clip the ball into the corner from 15 yards out.

    If England get more goals, it won't be Wayne Rooney getting them. He has gone off and Andy Carroll is on.

  42. 2135: 

    Wales are playing keep-ball, trying to run the clock down. A win tonight won't make up for 1977, or 1985 but the home fans will definitely enjoy this...

  43.   
    Phil McNulty at Wembley, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer

    "Wayne Rooney made the message clear even before Danny Welbeck scored England's fourth. He was visibly urging his team-mates forward knowing thise last 20 minutes is a real opportunity to punish a tiring San Marino."

  44.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "What a goal from Gareth Bale. The Scots look like they want the rain to swallow them up. The talismanic number 11 has dragged his side into the lead and could have torpedoed Scotland's World Cup hopes in the process..."

  45. 2133: 

    There are four minutes of injury time to be played in Cardiff. Scotland boss Craig Levein, soaked to the skin, is trying to rally his troops.

  46.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "Both teams know that if they lose here Rio is not just a far distant dream, but almost an impossibility."

  47. 2131: 
    GOAL- England 4-0 San Marino - Danny Welbeck (72 mins)

    England are finally giving themselves some breathing space at Wembley. Danny Welbeck scores his second goal of the night by poking in Tom Cleverley's right-wing cross from close range.

  48. 2130: 
    GOAL- Wales 2-1 Scotland - Gareth Bale (89 mins)

    An incredible strike - absolutely incredible. We knew all about Gareth Bale's left foot already, of course, but this is something really special, a rocket shot on the run from the left flank and about 25 yards out. He was under pressure from Charlie Adam, his old foe, but it did not stop him finding the top corner.

  49. 2129: 
    GOAL- England 3-0 San Marino - Wayne Rooney (70 mins)

    Wayne Rooney's 31st goal for England puts him fifth on his country's all-time scoring list. It's a touch from Aaron Lennon that tees him up on the edge of the area, before he bends the ball past Aldo Simoncini and into the net. No stopping that one.

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    OptaJoe on Twitter: "The last time San Marino conceded only two goals on the road, they drew the match."

  51. 2128: 
    GOAL- Republic of Ireland 0-6 Germany - Toni Kroos (83 mins)

    Toni Kroos nets his second of the night with a superb shot from just outside the box - it is a miserable night for the Republic of Ireland.

  52. 2127: 

    So, both Wales and Scotland need a win, and both of them are going for it too. Alan Hutton has just gone close with a drilled cross that turned into a shot... and flew just over the bar.

  53.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "I think a draw tonight kills of both sides. Not totally, but it will need extreme mathematics to get either team back into the group."

  54.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "Gareth Bale's equalising penalty is greeted by a thunderous, relieved roar by the Wales fans. They're aiming to avoid losing their first three World Cup qualifiers since their 1970 campaign. Suddenly, the men in red are on fire..."

  55.   
    Phil McNulty, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer

    "All a bit Keystone Kops at the moment. So many bodies in and around penalty area that England and San Marino players bumping into each other."

  56. 2126: 

    It's taken them 66 minutes but San Marino have just mounted their first attack of the night. It's on the break, obviously, and it involves Danilo Rinaldi chasing a long ball and blazing over under pressure from Phil Jagielka.

  57. 2124: 

    "You're not singing anymore" is the refrain from the Wales fans at their Scotland counterparts. Plenty of debatable refereeing decisions tonight, though, not just that penalty. Wales should have had a spot-kick a few minutes earlier, while the ball didn't go out of play for that disallowed Scotland goal.

  58.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "Bale has clipped his own heels for me. It's tight, but if there is the slightest contact there it is a penalty kick. Bale has been the best player on the park by a million miles. He's tried to create chances for everyone else who have not been able to take them, so he creates a chance for himself and takes it. He was looking for it, but he got the slightest of touches and went down. And that is what a forward should do."

  59. 2122: 
    GOAL- Wales 1-1 Scotland - Gareth Bale pen (80 mins)

    Gareth Bale wrestles the ball off Aaron Ramsey - he wants this one - and then calmy sends Allan McGregor the wrong way from the spot. All square in Cardiff, where it is absolutely bucketing down - I think we are in store for a fast and frantic last 10 minutes.

  60. 2121: 
    PENALTY to Wales

    Gareth Bale goes down in the box under a challenge from Shaun Maloney. Third time lucky for Wales, who have had two big appeals already turned down tonight.

  61.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "Steven Fletcher thinks he has headed Scotland into a two-goal lead but his effort is chalked off as Charlie Adam's cross is adjudged to have gone out of play. Incredible stuff, can this game produce any more drama?"

  62.   
    Danny Mills, BBC Radio 5 live at Wembley

    "It's like a battering ram trying to bang down the door. But England need a bit of creativity and guile. It's frustrating to watch. The crowd are getting restless."

  63. 2119: 

    England, as you probably expect by now, are still camped in the San Marino half but, as we go past the hour mark, they still only have two goals to show for their night's work. Normally 2-0 would be a very acceptable margin of victory, but not against San Marino it isn't.

  64.   
    Danny Mills, BBC Radio 5 live at Wembley

    "The San Marino keeper has done alright for me so far. Yes, he gave away the penalty and hardly covered himself in glory when he brought down Welbeck. But apart from that, with the amount of shots he's faced, he's done okay."

  65. 2116: 
    DISALLOWED GOAL

    Just as I write that last sentence, Scotland get the ball in the back of the net again, when Steven Fletcher gets on the end of a cross from the left. It won't count, but I'm not sure why because Fletcher was definitely onside.

  66. 2115: 
    YELLOW CARD- Wales' Joe Allen

    Mind you, another Scotland goal would finish Wales off here. Joe Allen knows he cannot allow James Morrison to break forward again, and he knows he has to drag him back and take the yellow card for his country.

  67.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "Craig Levein needs to make a change. Wales are starting to get some joy."

  68. 2114: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Wales' Hal Robson-Kanu for Joe Ledley

    Chris Coleman juggles his attacking options by bringing on Hal Robson-Kanu for Joe Ledley. Wales have got 18 minutes to find an equaliser.

  69.  

    England Under-21 international Adam Smith tweets: "Good result for the lads! Good to get the win! On to Tuesday to finish the job!"

  70. 2112: 

    England's first real attack of the second half sees Michael Carrick play a one-two with Danny Welbeck before seeing his shot deflected wide. Then from the resulting corner, Gary Cahill skews his volley completely when he had time to bring the ball under control in front of goal. He's normally pretty lethal in the opposition box, but not so far tonight.

  71.  
    WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS ROUND-UP

    There has been a result of note elsewhere in England's group this evening with Moldova holding Ukraine to a 0-0 draw. That leaves Ukraine struggling somewhat even at this early stage. Elsewhere, Belgium are well on course to become the first team to beat Serbia in a home World Cup qualifier for more than 10 years. They lead 2-0 in Belgrade deep into the second half. Pedro Rodriguez has scored a hat-trick as Spain look certain to coast to a resounding victory over Belarus in Group I. The World and European champions led 2-0 at half-time thanks to Pedro and his Barcelona team-mate Jordi Alba. Pedro has scored twice more after the break. Netherlands are coasting to a comfortable victory over lowly Andorra thanks to goals from former Tottenham midfielder Rafael Van der Vaart, Klaas-Jan Huntelaar and Ruben Schaken.

  72. 2111: 

    After all that, Wales are still only 1-0 down. They might even be level, if Aaron Ramsey had shown more composure after breaking into the box... instead he hesitates and sees his shot bobble wide.

  73. 2108: 

    Almost complete disaster for Wales. First they have another decent penalty appeal turned down, after substitute Craig Davies - who has just come on for Steve Morison - is wrestled to the ground by Christophe Berra. That challenge gets worse every time I see it.

    Then they almost shoot themselves in the foot when Ashley Williams plays the ball against David Vaughan, allowing James Morrison to advance into the area before firing in a cross-shot that might be meant for Steven Fletcher or the bottom corner but ends up finding neither.

  74. 2108: 
    GOAL- Republic of Ireland 0-5 Germany - Toni Kroos (61 mins)

    Half-time substitute Toni Kroos makes it 5-0 with a first-time volley from the edge of the box.

  75.  
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    Andrew McCoy on Twitter: "Am I the only one seeing nothing wrong with that keepers 'foul' on Walcott? He won the ball, can't disappear after winning it!"

    David Morgan on Twitter: "I am refusing to watch another Wales match while that inept fool of a manger remains in charge!"

    CJ on Twitter: "Chris Coleman should have never been appointed Wales manager. He has undone everything Gary Speed had done."

  76. 2106: 

    A big shout for a Wales penalty after Gareth Bale gets past Shaun Maloney and Dan Fox and feeds Aaron Ramsey who, running across the area, goes down under a challenge from Charlie Adam. Nothing given, and I think the ref got that one right.

  77.   
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live

    "Even the worst teams are difficult to get through in the middle. England's forwards have their backs to the goal, but the way to play against these sides is coming in diagonally and get the width. If they did that England would get more chances."

  78. 2105: 
    KICK-OFF- England 2-0 San Marino

    We are back under way at Wembley. We now know for certain that England will win - the question remains, by how many.

  79. 2104: 
    YELLOW CARD- Wales' Aaron Ramsey

    Aaron Ramsey is trying hard to make things happen for Wales... too hard here. He slides in late on Alan Hutton and picks up a yellow card that will keep him out of Tuesday's trip to Croatia.

  80.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "Wales need a change of personnel. They have control of the game but it's gone a little bit dull. They see to be lacking energy and are questioning themselves. And they need to get Bale on the ball more."

  81. 2103: 
    GOAL- Republic of Ireland 0-4 Germany - Miroslav Klose (58 mins)

    Miroslav Klose is getting closer to the German scoring record as he slides in his team's fourth from a tight angle. He is now just three behind Gerd Muller's 68.

  82. 2102: 

    An hour gone in Cardiff. Scotland look content to sit on their lead, Wales are trying to find a way though them. Just one goal in it, and not much between the two teams.

  83. 2100: 
    GOAL- Republic of Ireland 0-3 Germany - Mesut Ozil pen (55 mins)

    Germany in firm control now as Mesut Ozil strikes form the penalty spot after Darren O'Dea's foul from behind on Miroslav Klose. O'Dea is lucky not to pick up second yellow.

  84. 2059: 

    Darcy Blake is back on the pitch but he is still struggling and I'm not sure he will be able to carry on for much longer. Mind you, I thought Theo Walcott would make a full recovery so let's wait and see on that one.

  85. 2058: 

    Wales have a problem here. Darcy Blake has just gone down with nobody else near him after appearing to twist his knee. He looks in real pain... he is back on his feet but is going off for more treatment.

  86.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "Aaron Ramsey and Gareth Bale are probing, looking to pierce the Scotland rearguard. But the visitors are holding firm. Just..."

  87.  
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    Rob from London via text: "Welbeck is a beast, capturing the form he showed glimpses of during the Euros! Shame he's not coming to Villa Park any time soon... One can hope!"

    Andy in Leeds via text: "Holland put 11 past San Marino not long ago. England are labouring. Fewer than eight goals will be a disastrous result, don't pretend it won't."

  88. 2053: 
    YELLOW CARD- Wales' Gareth Bale

    Daniel Fox has been the Scotland player dealt the hand of dealing with Gareth Bale for most of the night so far, and he actually is doing a pretty good job so far.

    Wales have just had a bit of joy down that right flank, however, with Aaron Ramsey skipping past Shaun Maloney but then tripping over his own feet inside the area as he went down the by-line. Wales want a penalty but they are not getting one, and Gareth Bale ends up being booked after going a bit too far with his protests.

  89. 2051: 

    Wales have started the second half on the attack but they have not really threatened Scotland since the restart.

    In fact, the visitors have gone closest to scoring again with Charlie Adam feeding Alan Hutton, whose cross is looping toward goal and has to be tipped away by Lewis Price.

  90.   
    Phil McNulty at Wembley, BBC Sport Chief Football WriterHALF-TIME- England 2-0 San Marino

    "England got there eventually after camping out in San Marino territory. Now they must take full advantage of that platform - plus inevitably tiring opponents - to rack up that crucial goal difference."

  91. 2049: 
    HALF-TIME- England 2-0 San Marino
  92. 2048: 

    More chances to tell you about at Wembley. First Danny Welbeck's control lets him down after he gets on the end of a ball into the box. Then Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain sees his low effort from distance saved.

    There are just three minutes of injury time to be played, and we haev had two-and-a-half of them.

  93. 2047: 
    KICK-OFF- Wales 0-1 Scotland

    A change at the break for Scotland. Charlie Adam replaces Scott Brown, who was carrying a knock. Oh, and we are back under way in Cardiff.

  94. 2046: 

    A shout for another England penalty, with Aaron Lennon going to ground inside the area. Nothing given, this time.

  95.   
    Danny Mills, BBC Radio 5 live at Wembley

    "The worry for me, so far, is that it is the lack of quality from San Marino which has let England into the game, rather than England's brilliance or dominance."

  96. 2045: 

    That man Aldo Simoncini is at it again, scrambling to reach a fizzing Leighton Baines cross.

    By the way, Theo's Walcott injury should mean plenty of injury time so it maybe a few minutes longer than I thought until the break.

  97.  
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    Mayowa Olubowale on Twitter: "What a finish from Welbeck!"

    Thom Hoffman on Twitter: "Unbelievable Welbekkers!"

    Steven Pope on Twitter: "So it wasn't a fluke against Sweden at Euro 2012! Ridiculous finish from Welbeck again. Floodgates about to open?"

  98. 2041: 
    GREAT SAVE!

    Five minutes to go until half-time at Wembley, so time for a couple more England goals?

    Er, maybe. Aldo Simoncini is not living up to his reputation of being completely useless, pulling out his second top-drawer save of the night to keep out Wayne Rooney's curling effort that was heading for the bottom corner of the net.

  99.  

    OptaJoe on Twitter: "Rooney has become the first England player other than Lampard to score a penalty (excluding shootouts) since Beckham in 2003."

  100.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "Oddly enough both teams won't be too disappointed. Wales have played pretty well and have created quite a few chances. They could get back into this game, but Scotland have the wind at the moment and must be delighted."

  101.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "Scotland lead at the break courtesy of James Morrison's cool finish. Both sides have been wasteful in front of goal, which makes for compulsive viewing. Scotland manager Craig Levein could be forgiven a jig of delight in the dressing room. A long way still to go, though."

  102.   
    Danny Mills, BBC Radio 5 live at Wembley

    "That was a great penalty from Wayne Rooney. It should just allow Roy Hodgson to breathe a huge sigh of relief. Now England can get down to playing some football."

  103. 2038: 
    GOAL- England 2-0 San Marino - Danny Welbeck (37 mins)

    This is more like it, and we've seen Danny Welbeck find this sort of finish before - at Euro 2012 for example. Aaron Lennon gets behind the San Marino defence down the right and from his pull-back, Welbeck swivels to casually flick the ball home with the inside of his boot. England are up and running - no need to panic anymore.

  104.   
    Phil McNulty, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer

    "Rooney steps up to take the penalty and makes no mistake. Deadlock broken after 34 minutes with his 30th England goal."

  105. 2035: 
    GOAL- England 1-0 San Marino - Wayne Rooney pen (35 mins)

    It WAS coming, honest. Danny Welbeck runs into the area and is sent tumbling by Aldo Simoncini, who dives at his feet. That's a booking for the San Marino keeper and Lithuanian ref Gediminas Mazeika points to the spot. Wayne Rooney steps up to take it... and makes no mistake, firing high into the right-hand corner.

  106. 2035: 
    PENALTY to England

    And Roy Hodgson no doubt breathes a huge sigh of relief...

  107. 2034: 
    HITS THE WOODWORK

    The San Marino goal is suddenly leading a charmed life. Michael Carrick's long-range effort slams against the bar before Danny Welbeck smashes the follow-up against the post. Still 0-0.

  108. 2033: 

    Er, are England going to score soon or what? Not this time, they're not. Tom Cleverley hoists over a cross from the right and Wayne Rooney hurls himself at the ball, but sees his header fly wide.

  109. 2032: 
    HALF-TIME- Wales 0-1 Scotland
  110. 2030: 

    We've had one goal already in Cardiff of course, but Scotland probably feel they should have more than their 1-0 lead. Steven Fletcher and James Morrison link-up again but this time Morrison cannot convert Fletcher's knockdown in the box.

  111. 2030: 

    We are approaching the half-hour mark at Wembley and it is still 0-0. Have we got a big story on our hands?

  112. 2029:  
    Phil McNulty at Wembley, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer

    "Pattern was set right from the kick-off. England's attack against San Marino's defence. The Wembley crowd is subdued and England need to inject a bit more pace into their passing and general approach."

  113.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Liam Edwards on Twitter: "Coleman out. Benitez isn't up to much these days? If he can win the Champions League with Liverpool he can make Wales qualify!"

    Paul Christie on Twitter: "Ireland look absolutely woeful. What happened to the exciting football they used to play? Struggling to put two passes together."

    Anuj Karmacharya on Twitter: "I thought goals are suppose to be flying in left and right, what happened to that."

  114. 2029: 
    GOAL- Republic of Ireland 0-2 Germany - Marco Reus (40 mins)

    Germany pounce again as a sweeping move ends with Marco Reus charging into the penalty area to drill a superb left-foot strike past keeper Keiren Westwood in the 40th minute.

  115. 2028: 

    Hot potato! Aldo Simoncini hasn't been tested too much just yet but, like I said, he really should be. This time he makes a right hash of a Kyle Walker cross and is lucky not to see it drop over the line.

  116. 2025: 

    England need to have more shots, especially with Aldo Simoncini in goal. It doesn't matter too much where from either, although the San Marino keeper did get behind Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain's shot from 25 yards out.

    The wave of attacks continues, of course, but still no goals. The latest threat ended when Wayne Rooney sent a header well over the bar from Leighton Baines' looping cross.

  117.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Jon in Wales on 81111 on text: "Allen, Vaughan, Williams, Ramsey, Morison and Bale. Premier League players for top clubs. We can't complain about Chris Coleman (a manager who plays one of the world's best left-footed players on the right) because the FAW don't listen. Shame really."

    Toby from Kingston on 81111 on text: "Rooney is looking as lively as ever. He darts around the pitch like no-one else."

    Mike in Newcastle on 81111 on text: "Can't believe people say San Marino should not be here. One thing they will show that we won't is pride."

  118. 2023: 

    Another sight of goal for Wales, and for Gareth Bale. The ball is cleared as far as him on the edge of the box but he is again off target after setting himself for a shot. Five minutes to go until half-time in Cardiff and Scotland still lead 1-0 but are having to work harder than they had been to protect their lead.

  119.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "Wales should be happy at the moment. They have started to create chances, and Bale and Allen are getting more into the game."

  120. 2022: 

    More urgency by England and more in the way of neat passing too, that creates space for a Wayne Rooney shot which is deflected wide. Lots of crosses are coming into the San Marino box but the minnows are coping with them well enough.

  121. 2021: 

    Hmmm. Safe to say the first 20 minutes have not gone to plan for Roy Hodgson so far. England face a wall of blue shirts every time they approach the final third, and they are not helping their cause with some sloppy passing. Joe Hart is a spectator but his opposite number, San Marino keeper Aldo Simoncini is not exactly a busy man either.

  122. 2020: 
    GOAL- Republic of Ireland 0-1 Germany - Marco Reus (32 mins)

    There was a lucky escape for the Republic of Ireland after 30 minutes as defender John O'Shea lost possession and appeared to pull back Marco Reus in an attempt to retrieve the situation. The penalty was not given as the Italian referee booked Reus instead, but moments later Reus saw his shot go in off the crossbar. Justice perhaps after that dodgy 'no penalty' decision.

  123.  
    WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS ROUND-UP

    Spain are 2-0 up at half-time in their match against Belarus in Group I. Goals from Pedro and Jordi Alba have put the World and European champions firmly in control. Elsewhere, Euro 2012 finalists Italy have claimed a hard fought 3-1 victory over Armenia to extend their lead at the top of Group B. Andrea Pirlo opened the scoring in the 11th minute with a penalty, but a relentless response from Armenia saw then deservedly draw level through the in-form Henrick Mkhitaryam just before half an hour. The hosts continued to put Italy under pressure in the second half, but headers from Daniele De Rossi and Pablo Osvaldo clinched all three points for the Azzurri.

  124. 2019: 
    YELLOW CARD- Scotland's Gary Caldwell

    Wales' turn to try their luck from a free-kick after Gary Caldwell brings down Joe Ledley. Gareth Bale will take this one, from about 30 yards out... and blazes it high into the stands.

  125.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Gavin Scott on Twitter: "Well done Steven Fletcher and James Morrison. Should take control of this game now."

    Berty on Twitter: "If San Marino tackle like that all night we're in for a cracker! Was a bit Waterboy, that challenge!"

    Alfie Jones on Twitter: "Horror knock out. The kind of challenge you might expect from the goalkeeper of the lowest ranked national team in the world."

  126.   
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live

    "It has been all England and it will continue that way. I would like to see them move the ball a bit quicker and make that early forward pass. That would be helpful to break them down."

  127.   
    Phil McNulty, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer

    "Applause for England goalkeeper Joe Hart as he gets a touch... you get the idea."

  128. 2017: 

    Scotland have a free-kick about 30 yards out. They try to take it quickly, feeding Kris Commons down the right, but German referee Florian Meyer is not ready and is having none of it.

    When it is taken at the second attempt, Steven Fletcher cannot get on the end of Darren Fletcher's delivery. All in all, a bit of a waste.

  129. 2016: 

    Wales look rattled after falling behind and it is Scotland doing most of the attacking. Kris Commons has just had a pop after cutting in from the right but his swerving effort bent away from Lewis Price's goal.

  130.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "The nod-on for Scotland's goal comes on from Steven Fletcher - who else, on a night like tonight? I thought James Morrison had left it too long, but no. He was confident to let it drop, then hit it true and low. How important could that be? Wales should have been ahead. The Steve Morison chance for them on the far post was an awful, terrible miss."

  131. 2013: 

    It gets worse for Theo Walcott, who could not walk back to the dressing room and had to be lifted on to a stretcher. He seems to be having problems breathing, which suggests a broken rib could be the problem after all.

    Back on the pitch, San Marino's massed defence is still holding out although Wayne Rooney somehow found space to get on the end of a corner and nod wide. Still England 0-0 San Marino after 15 minutes.

  132. 2012: 
    GOAL- Wales 0-1 Scotland - James Morrison (28 mins)

    Wales go close with a Steve Morison header which drifts wide but Scotland go straight up the other end and take the lead. Steven Fletcher flicks on Allan McGregor's clearance and James Morrison runs on to it to blast the ball past Lewis Price.

  133. 2011: 
    SUBSTITUTION- England's Aaron Lennon for Theo Walcott

    Sorry, I spoke too soon. I don't think Theo Walcott's injury is serious but he cannot continue.

  134. 2011: 

    An encouraging start for the Republic of Ireland in Dublin but they almost come unstuck when a cross finds Thomas Mueller - but it's a shade too high and the header sails over.

  135. 2009: 

    Good news for England and Theo Walcott. He was able to walk off the field and, once he has got his breath back, he will be back on. I feared a broken rib or two there, which would have been a travesty in a fixture like this one.

  136.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "Scotland captain Darren Fletcher and central midfield partner Scott Brown look in the mood but they have been unable to unlock this Welsh defence and give Steven Fletcher even a sniff of goal. The Scots need a flash of brilliance, and some support for Fletcher, to break the deadlock."

  137. 2008: 

    I knew that would work. A chance for Wales follows quickly after my 2006 entry, with the home side breaking forward before Joe Allen cuts inside to fire in a shot that is well blocked by Gary Caldwell.

  138.   
    Danny Mills, BBC Radio 5 live at Wembley

    "It might be Walcott's injury is more serious than I first thought. He's not moved for the last couple of minutes."

  139. 2006: 

    Things have gone a bit quiet in Cardiff, on the pitch at least, where there is a battle going on in the middle of the park and not much quality on display, let alone chances.

    Back at Wembley, Aldo Simoncini is busy again... dashing from his line to take out Theo Walcott. Ouch. That looked painful, and Walcott needs lengthy treatment here. Not sure he can continue and Roy Hodgson is fuming on the touchline. You can see why - that was a wild and needless challenge.

  140.   
    Pat Nevin, at Cardiff City Stadium for BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "There is a good atmosphere in here right now, though I would suggest it's mostly being made by the Scots."

  141.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Paul on 81111 on text: "Danny Mills (2001) should show some respect. San Marino are amateurs and part-timers, not overpaid flops like ours. Disgraceful."

    Tom in Oxford on 81111 on text: "I would rather have Carroll and Defoe up top with Rooney in behind. Don't rate Welbeck!"

    Matt from Liverpool on 81111 on text: "Methinks Adam in Dundee (1934) has realised where this current Scottish side would sit within John Murray's suggestion."

  142. 2004: 

    England's first shot sees Alex Oxade Chamberlain's rasper tipped over the bar by Aldo Simoncini. A good save, actually, especially given his history.

    Chamberlain's dad Mark scored for England when they thumped Luxembourg 9-0 in December, 1982. That's England's target tonight, surely?

  143. 2003: 

    San Marino have all 11 men back deep in their own half behind the ball. I don't think that is going to change, no matter what the score is.

  144.   
    BBC Radio 5 live

    Former England left-back Graeme Le Saux at Wembley on BBC Radio 5 live: "Kyle Walker is a good player - I like a modern, dynamic full-back who gets down the flank. I'm looking to see how he links up with Theo Walcott. That for me is where the game can be won early on - down the sides."

  145.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Jonni Slater on Twitter: "Scotland v Wales is so hard to call. Scotland can play well and have a few players, but Bale can win it by himself."

    Alastair Williams on Twitter: "Bale for me hasn't had a great start to the season. Let's hope his luck doesn't change tonight."

    Shohidur Rahman on Twitter: "Don't know why Trapattoni won't start McClean. Can't see anything but a comfortable win for Germany."

  146.   
    Danny Mills, BBC Radio 5 live at Wembley

    "I don't want to be disrespectful to San Marino, but this is basically England against a pub side. This should be very comfortable for England. I'd be very surprised if San Marino even get a corner this evening."

  147. 2001: 
    KICK-OFF- England v San Marino (20:00 BST)

    San Marino kick off... and the good news for Roy Hodgson is that the score is still 0-0 after 8.3 seconds. In fact, England have got a free-kick instead. That's a major improvement on the last time they met.

  148. 2000: 

    Oh dear. No ball at Wembley... wait, a Royal Marine is running down the stands with one in his hands to save the day. A nice touch.

  149. 1959: 

    The players are out on the pitch at Wembley, which is sold out tonight. The fans will want goals... can England deliver?

  150.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Steve Waites on Twitter: "Shame Carroll isn't starting. Would have terrified the San Marino defence..."

    Tom Warwick on Twitter: "Baines needs to make an impact tonight before Bertrand sneaks in and steals his spot once Cole's gone."

    Rish on Twitter: "I look forward to the San Marino national anthem. It's a classic."

  151. 1956: 

    Ah, since when did Norman Whiteside score the winner in the 1985 World Cup final? Anyway, Wales are looking to build on this good spell and are putting Scotland under a bit of pressure.

  152. 1954: 

    That's more like it from Gareth Bale, who latches on to a ball forward down the right and skins Scotland defender Dan Fox before curling a shot just off target from near the corner of the area. Think Norman Whiteside's winner in the 1985 FA Cup final and you won't be far wrong.

  153.   
    BBC Radio 5 live

    Former England left-back Graeme Le Saux at Wembley, talking about England v San Marino on 5 live Sport: "Tonight is about the state of mind of England's players. This should in effect be a training match. If they move the ball around they should tear San Marino apart."

  154. 1952: 

    We've had a shot on goal in Cardiff but it wasn't up to Gareth Bale's usual high standards. He flashes a looping effort off target from about 30 yards out. Scotland are yet to test Lewis Price's lack of match action but their build-up play has been marginally more threatening than the home side.

  155.   
    BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    Former England international Dean Ashton at Carrow Road on 5 live Sport: "Stuart Pearce will be happy he has got the win and very happy with a clean sheet. They can take that when they go to Serbia. Raheem Sterling has had a great game and is being saved for the second leg. England are going to take some beating in Serbia."

  156.  

    OptaJoe on Twitter: "Scotland have kept just two clean sheets in their last 11 away World Cup qualifiers."

  157. 1951: 
    FULL-TIME- England U21 1-0 Serbia U21

    Yep, one goal will have to do. The second leg is in Serbia on Tuesday. It promises to be a tense affair.

  158. 1950: 

    It looks like England's U21 will have to settle for a 1-0 first-leg lead against Serbia. Thomas Ince has had a shot blocked from a corner, but there are only seconds left.

  159. 1949: 

    As you might expect from a game between two of the home nations, Wales versus Scotland has started at about 100mph. Not much quality so far, and no chances to speak of, but a few tasty tackles flying in.

  160. 1947: 

    David Vaughan cleans out Scott Brown in the first few moments, but unlike at Carrow Road earlier, German referee Florian Meyer decides a stern talking too will do the trick for the Wales midfielder rather than an early card.

  161. 1945: 
    KICK-OFF- Wales v Scotland (19:45 BST)

    Scotland, wearing white shirts and blue shorts get us under way.

    Wales are wearing their red strip with a yellow and green stripe down one side. Definite shades of 1977 there, but will a white-and-blue cuff win a Scottish penalty tonight?

  162. 1944: 

    Gareth Bale starts on the right-hand side of midfield for Wales tonight, but I think he could pop up just about anywhere. It has stopped raining in Cardiff, where the game is about to begin...

  163.   
    Phil McNulty at Wembley, BBC Sport Chief Football WriterEngland v San Marino (20:00 BST)

    "Wayne Rooney, who captains England tonight, was asked about the challenge of facing a San Marino side ranked joint 207th in the world rankings alongside Bhutan and the Turks and Caicos Islands.

    He said: "I've played at club level against lower league teams in cup competitions, and they make it difficult for you. They get players behind the ball, so you have to break them down. An early goal and we can kick on from there.""

  164. 1943: 
    England v San Marino (20:00 BST)

    So, after much speculation, England boss Roy Hodgson decides to drop left-back Ashley Cole in the wake of his Twitter outburst against the Football Association. Everton's Leighton Baines, who has excelled in the Toffees' impressive start to the Premier League season, is preferred instead. Judging by the attacking line-up he has named, Hodgson is clearly looking to serve up a goal-fest against minnows San Marino. Forwards Theo Walcott, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Danny Welbeck line up alongside skipper Wayne Rooney, while right-back Kyle Walker makes his first competitive start.

  165.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "If there was a World Cup for singing then the Tartan Army would be the Spain of the competition. The fans are in great voice inside the stadium as the sense of anticipation builds ahead of this crucial encounter."

  166. 1940: 
    GREAT SAVE!

    A great Serbia save to follow that superb saving tackle. Andros Townsend floats in a free-kick from the left which is met by Steven Caulker at the back post... and his header is heading for the net until Branimir Aleksic leaps to claw it away.

  167.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Andrew Harvey on Twitter: "That's my first choice centre-back England pairing! Enticing prospect seeing them in action."

    Tom Castle on Twitter: "Important game not to be overlooked. England must find confidence and cohesion ahead of the massive game v Poland."

    Leigh Myers on Twitter: "Do we really need four at the back? And Carrick? Tonight is a chance to blood youngsters and let them grab a hatful."

  168. 1939: 
    WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS ROUND-UP

    Zlatan Ibrahimovic spared Sweden's blushes as they came from a goal down to beat the Faroe Islands 2-1 in Group C. The Faroes, playing on their new artificial pitch for the first time, stunned their more celebrated opponents on 57 minutes but goals from Alexander Kacaniklic and a 75th-minute winner by Ibrahimovic changed the game. Alexander Kerzhakov scored the only goal of the match as Russia beat Portugal in Group F to earn their third consecutive win of the qualifying campaign under Fabio Capello. Elsewhere, two second-half goals and a late penalty save from Petr Cech helped the Czech Republic to a 3-1 win over Malta in Group B, their first win of their World Cup qualifying campaign. In Group C, Kazakhstan held Austria to a 0-0 draw, while Finland and Georgia drew 1-1 in Group I.

  169. 1938: 

    Serbia are pushing for an away goal now and they almost pay the price when Thomas Ince surges clear. He doesn't get his shot away after advancing to the edge of the area, though, because Serbia captain Slobodan Medojevic is back to slide in with an excellent last-ditch challenge to deny him. That was brilliantly timed... and it had to be.

  170.  
    BBC Wales's Bruce Pope at Cardiff City Stadium

    "Looming over the BBC commentary positions at Cardiff City Stadium, I can see one very patriotic, very hairy and possibly very cold Scotland fan, who has shaved a cross of St Andrew into his chest. Meanwhile, BBC Wales pundit Ian Walsh is pondering whether Wales boss Chris Coleman might have been better opting to start with the experience of full-back Sam Ricketts rather than Darcy Blake in defence."

  171. 1938: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Serbia's Nemanja Kojic for Darko Lazovic

    An enforced one this, and it is probably good news for England. Darko Lazovic has been a menace for Serbia tonight but he has just limped off.

  172. 1937: 
    SUBSTITUTION- England's Connor Wickham for Marvin Sordell

    A change up top for England, with Connor Wickham replacing Marvin Sordell. About 12 minutes left at Carrow Road - do Stuart Pearce's men look to extend their lead ahead of Tuesday's second leg, or is one goal enough to take to Serbia?

  173. 1934: 

    Mind you, there is something else Coleman and Levein have in common. They both need three points tonight, desperately.

    When it was put to him that the game in Cardiff is a must-win for Wales AND Scotland, Levein replied: "Agreed. And that makes it even more exciting, doesn't it?"

  174.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Stephen in Manchester on 81111 on text: "Re 1852: John Murray is incorrect! Keep the minnows in, these games bring them revenue, and there is always the chance of an upset."

    Adam in Dundee on 81111 on text: "The arrogance of the English on this is a disgrace. Here's hoping you get some humble pie!"

  175. 1934: 

    Like his Wales counterpart Chris Coleman, Scotland boss Craig Levein is feeling a bit of heat after his side's slow start in Group A. He seems quite comfortable with the pressure he is under, though.

    "I had a brief chat with Chris down in London a couple of months ago about the differences between club management and international management," Levein said.

    "There are a lot of differences - it's a tougher job I believe. We've both got tough jobs but you don't take the job that I'm in or Chris is in and think that everything is going to be easy because that's just impossible.

    "Yes, it's tough but I'm the proudest man in Scotland to be the Scotland manager. Anything that comes with it, I'll take it just so that I can do this job."

  176.   
    Danny Mills, BBC Radio 5 live

    "San Marino shouldn't be here. These are supposed to be World Cup qualifiers. Surely there should be some sort of pre-qualifying tournament. They concede an average of four goals a game and they've only ever scored 19 goals. It's ridiculous. They've only ever won one game, and they are going to finish bottom of this group. Everyone is expecting five, six, seven, eight goals tonight."

  177.   
    Mark Pougatch, BBC Radio 5 live

    "To go through the San Marino jobs: the goalkeeper is an accountant, then bar owner, professional footballer, a student called Brolli (make your own jokes about sheltering the back four), another accountant, a bank clerk, a barman, an olive oil company rep (he does all the pressing in midfield), a student, and a furniture company salesman. The one bright spark is Alex Gasparoni... who fits lighting in farm buildings."

  178.  
    LINE-UPS- England v San Marino (20:00 BST)

    England: Hart, Walker, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines, Walcott, Carrick, Cleverley, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Welbeck, Rooney. Subs: Ruddy, Cole, Lescott, Shawcross, Milner, Shelvey, Adam Johnson, Lennon, Carroll, Defoe, Forster.

    San Marino: Aldo Simoncini, Fabio Vitaioli, Davide Simoncini, Brolli, Palazzi, Cibelli, Coppini, Rinaldi, Della Valle, Gasperoni, Cervellini. Subs: Valentini, Bacciocchi, Bollini, Buscarini, Marani, Mazza, Selva, Vannucci, Matteo Vitaioli.

    Referee: Gediminas Mazeika (Lithuania)

  179. 1930: 
    YELLOW CARD- Serbia's Slobodan Medojevic

    Another booking for Serbia, dished out after Slobodan Medojevic impatiently hacks down Thomas Ince as he shields the ball on the left flank. Jordan Henderson curls the resulting free-kick into the area but Branimir Aleksic deals with it at the second attempt.

  180.  
    LINE-UPS- Wales v Scotland (19:45 BST)

    Wales: Price, Gunter, Blake, Williams, Ben Davies, Bale, Allen, Vaughan, Ramsey, Ledley, Morison. Subs: Brown, Craig Davies, Ricketts, King, Richards, Church, Robson-Kanu, Vokes, Wilson, Fon Williams.

    Scotland: McGregor, Hutton, Caldwell, Berra, Fox, Maloney, Morrison, Darren Fletcher, Brown, Commons, Steven Fletcher. Subs: Gilks, Mulgrew, Adam, McArthur, Miller, Mackie, Martin, Phillips, Webster, Forrest, Marshall.

    Referee: Florian Meyer (Germany)

  181.  
    Republic of Ireland v Germany (19:45 BST)

    Everton full-back Seamus Coleman makes his first competitive for the Republic of Ireland as they take on Germany in Dublin. Arsenal's Lukas Podolski is one of the German substitutes, while Jerome Boateng, Per Mertesacker and Bastian Schweinsteiger come into the side as three changes from the win over Austria.

  182.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "Joe Ledley set up Aaron Ramsey for one of the goals in Wales's 3-0 victory in 2009; a defeat that signalled the end of George Burley's turbulent reign as Scotland boss. The Scots will be determined to avoid further heartache tonight. When Steven Fletcher's name was read out by the match announcer is was greeted with a thunderous roar by the Scotland fans. Is the stage set for the in-form Sunderland striker to fire the visitors to victory?"

  183. 1927: 

    It took England over an hour to make it 1-0 but they could have been further ahead within moments of the restart. The Serbia defence goes AWOL but, when Thomas Ince rolls the ball invitingly across goal after running down the left, Wilfred Zaha's finish is far from composed... he takes a touch at the far post and cuts inside but then skews his shot past the opposite post.

  184. 1925: 
    SUBSTITUTION- England's Andros Townsend for Raheem Sterling

    England make a change immediately after taking the lead, with Andros Townsend on for Raheem Sterling. Time for a Serbia switch too, with Goran Causic replacing Sasa Markovic.

  185.   
    BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    Former England international Dean Ashton at Carrow Road on 5 live Sport: "It is definitely a penalty. The defender dives in, and this is exactly what England need. It was a superb penalty. Dawson struck it really well and it was right in the corner. Hopefully now England can go on to nick another goal, but they now have the goal they can take to Serbia."

  186. 1923: 
    GOAL- England U21 1-0 Serbia U21 - Craig Dawson (66 mins)

    At last, England break the deadlock. No doubt about the penalty, which comes when Adam Smith's cross is cleared back into his path near the right-hand corner of the area, and he is sent sprawling by Luka Milunovic's challenge. No dout about the way it is taken, either, with Craig Dawson stepping up to smash the ball into the net.

  187. 1922: 
    PENALTY to England
  188.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "The mood among the Scotland fans in Cardiff today has been quietly confident. With only two points from their opening two games in Group A, victory is essential for them to have a realistic chance of packing their swimming trunks for Brazil... "

  189. 1917: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Serbia's Milos Jojic for Filip Malbasic

    Serbia are looking to plug a few gaps down their left flank, where Raheem Sterling is looking increasingly dangerous, so Milos Jojic is brought on for Filip Malbasic.

    Immediately, England break forward down the right and Marvin Sordell brings a diving save from Branimir Aleksic, who had to be alert at the near post. An hour gone and it is still 0-0 at Carrow Road.

  190.   
    Danny Mills, BBC Radio 5 live

    "Leighton Baines has done incredibly well this season. He played well against Moldova, and England will win this game. It's almost a given. It gives Hodgson a chance to try a few players who are on the fringes. But if Baines does well it does give Roy a dilemma going into the Poland game."

  191.   
    BBC Radio 5 live

    Former England left-back Graeme Le Saux on 5 live Sport: "Baines has developed and looks confident when he plays. He earned the right to play tonight. It's key he continues his club form with his country. But let's not forget how consistent Ashley Cole has been over the years. 98 caps, and I hope he gets his 100th."

  192. 1917: 

    There has been plenty of discussion about England's left-back tonight against San Marino, even if he is unlikely to be tested in the usual fashion.

    No Ashley Cole, as expected given events of the past few days... but how close is Leighton Baines to taking his place on a regular basis?

  193.  

    5 live's senior football reporter Ian Dennis tweets: "Hodgson is resting players who are on a yellow cards: Milner, Lescott, Defoe. Walcott's first start for England since Sweden last November."

  194. 1915: 

    Back to Carrow Road, where England's U21s want a free-kick when Raheem Stirling is felled on the edge of the box, but they end up having to settle for a corner when advantage is played and the ball comes to Wilfred Zaha, who ends up being crowded out inside the box.

  195. 1912: 

    Interesting to see Lewis Price get the nod as Wales goalkeeper tonight in the absence of Wayne Hennessey and Boaz Myhill. Price has played only twice for Crystal Palace this season, on both occasions in the Capital One Cup, and his last outing came in August.

    Owain Fon Williams has been in excellent form for League One leaders Tranmere, but he has to wait for his chance.

  196. 1910: 

    Wales boss Chris Coleman has been speaking about the reaction he is expecting from his players against Scotland following their 6-1 defeat at the hands of Serbia last time out.

    "We have put more pressure on ourselves for the Scotland game because of the nature of the defeat against Serbia," Coleman said. "But maybe that is a good thing because it has made me make some big decisions.

    "All the players are in a corner where there is only one way they can go - if you are stuck in a corner, you have to fight your way out.

    "The players know we let our country down, big style. They are good guys, they want to do well and we can do a lot better than we did against Serbia."

  197. 1906: 

    Raheem Sterling was at the heart of things, linking up with Thomas Ince again, but a corner was the closest they got to testing Serbia keeper Branimir Aleksic again.

  198. 1903: 
    KICK-OFF- England U21 0-0 Serbia U21

    Serbia get the second half started at Carrow Road, but it is England who are first to attack.

  199. 1902: 

    A change for England U21 at the break. Jack Rodwell has a hamstring problem - which could also be a problem for Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini because Rodwell has had plenty of similar problems in the past. Blackburn's Jason Lowe is on instead.

  200.  
    BBC Scotland's Thomas McGuigan at Cardiff City Stadium

    "A heavy downpour in Cardiff has failed to dampen Scottish spirits, with the fans delighted to see Steven Fletcher spearhead an attacking line up."

  201.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Hassan Seedat on Twitter: "How funny would it be if England lost tonight? Regardless of the opposition you still have to show respect."

    Jack O'Neill on Twitter: "The boys in green are going to get slaughtered by Germany tonight. Simple as. Nervous."

    Mike Martin on Twitter: "Adam Smith playing wide right. Fitting. One for all you economists out there..."

  202. 1857: 
    England v San Marino (20:00 BST)

    BREAKING: The England team to play San Marino is: Hart; Walker, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines; Carrick, Cleverley, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain; Rooney, Welbeck.

    That's KYLE Walker in for his first start in a qualifier, not Des... who started the last time these two teams met in November 1993. England are not THAT confident at the back.

  203.   
    John Murray, at Cardiff City Stadum, BBC Radio 5 live

    "With England's game against San Marino, and I've long thought this, there should be a Second Division of international football in the European qualifiers. Those nations that are described as minnows should be in a group of their own while the other qualifiers are taking place. Then whoever wins that group goes into the main section of group for the next qualifying campaign.

    "The groups would then become more competitive and there would be fewer games. For the minnows, instead of getting battered, they have a chance to win groups."

  204.  

    OptaJoe on Twitter: "In each of their previous two matches against San Marino, an English player has scored four goals (David Platt and Ian Wright)."

  205.   
    Phil McNulty at Wembley, BBC Sport Chief Football WriterEngland v San Marino (20:00 BST)

    "England manager Roy Hodgson insisted he would not quantify before the game what he would regard as a good win against San Marino - but the visitors' average defeat in their history is 6-0 so he may use that as a benchmark. This is the game that surely flouts the adage "no easy games in football" - but is still vital as a means of improving goal difference, which may prove decisive in this tight group."

  206. 1852: 

    So, no goals at Carrow Road so far. I'm pretty sure there will be some at Wembley later, though. And Wales versus Scotland does not exactly have 0-0 stamped all over it either...

  207. 1849: 

    There was just time for a deflected - and looping - Jordan Henderson shot to force another save from Branimir Aleksic, who didn't seem to enjoy being under pressure as he tipped it over the bar. The whistle for half-time went before the corner could be taken.

  208.  
    Wales v Scotland (19:45 BST)

    BREAKING: Swansea City youngster Ben Davies makes his debut for Wales, with Lewis Price in goal.

  209. 1848: 
    HALF-TIME- England U21 0-0 Serbia U21
  210. 1846: 

    Another close shave for the Serbia woodwork. This time it is Jordan Henderson, bursting forward, who has the shot on goal... but again Branimir Aleksic is grateful to see if fly narrowly off target.

  211. 1844: 

    This is better, much better by England. The ball pops up nicely for Thomas Ince, who is about 25 yards out but has only one thing on his mind, firing in a rasping shot that beats the diving Branimir Aleksic but whistles just wide of his right-hand post.

    Only seconds of the first half remain. It is still 0-0, but England can take plenty of encouragement from the first 45 minutes.

  212.  
    Wales v Scotland (19:45 BST)

    BREAKING: Both the Fletchers, Darren and Steven, start for Scotland in Cardiff. Wales news and full line-ups to follow.

  213. 1840: 
    YELLOW CARD- Serbia's Filip Mladenovic

    The chances have dried up but we ARE getting more bookings. Filip Mladenovic is shown a yellow card and will miss the second leg after taking out Adam Smith to stop him continuing a raid down the right wing - that was a pretty cynical challenge.

    The resulting free-kick is easily cleared but the ball is played back into the area where Jack Rodwell wildly blazes wide.

  214.  

    Michael Owen, who scored 40 goals in 89 England games, on England-San Marino: "I'm going for an 8-0 hammering tonight. Will be disappointed with anything less than five!"

  215. 1838: 

    Hmmmm, I hope this isn't a sign of what is going to come at Wembley later. England, after wasting a host of chances, have lost their way against a Serbia side who may not be too adventurous but are definitely well-organised at the back and handy on the break to boot.

  216.   
    John Murray at Cardiff City Stadium, BBC Radio 5 live

    "It will be a really interesting one tonight. Wales, without question, are in a bit of a rut. They have lost their last five games and haven't won a match yet under Chris Coleman. At the same time Scottish confidence is not exactly soaring. Their first two matches in this group were home games and they drew them both."

  217. 1834: 

    It's not quite Anfield 1977, when Scotland took over what was supposed to be a home game for Wales (more on that game and Joe Jordan's handball later), but the signs are the Tartan Army are out in force again in Cardiff tonight.

    Scotland's allocation is 5,700 but there's a suspicion there will be more than that knocking around Cardiff City Stadium - the city centre is swarming with Tartan and tickets are still on sale at the ground

  218. 1832: 

    This has turned into a decent spell by Serbia, easily their best of the match. Jack Butland is still to be forced into meaningful action but only because Sasa Markovic scuffed his shot wide from the edge of the box after the England defence failed to deal with a hoisted ball forward.

  219. 1831: 

    Er, wouldn't it be typical if after all that England pressure, Serbia go down the other end and score?

    It almost happened too. ALMOST. Darko Lazovic's cross finds Luka Milunovic at the far post and unmarked, six yards out... but he gets his header all wrong and does not test Jack Butland. A waste for Serbia, and a warning to England.

  220. 1828: 

    Now, Scotland boss Craig Levein is under a fair bit of pressure after his side's winless start to Group A but it's nothing compared to what Wales manager Chris Coleman is going through.

    There are some nasty-looking statistics hovering above the Cardiff City Stadium tonight, waiting to be hurled at the man known as 'Cookie' should his side crumble again...

    Coleman's side lost their opening two qualifiers - against Belgium and Serbia - and Wales have not lost their first three since they missed out on the 1970 World Cup.

    It gets worse. Coleman has already become the first Wales manager since Walley Barnes in 1954 to lose his first four matches in charge of Wales and NO Welsh boss has lost their first five games.

    I've not finished yet either. If Wales lose against Scotland tonight and Croatia on Tuesday, then it would be the first time since February 1900 that Wales had suffered seven successive defeats.

  221. 1827: 

    News from Cardiff now too. Former Wales striker and BBC pundit Iwan Roberts thinks there's a good chance that youngster Ben Davies will make his international debut for Wales tonight against Scotland, having deputised so ably at left-back for Swansea after Neil Taylor broke his ankle early in the season.

    There is also the possibility that Crystal Palace goalkeeper Lewis Price will get the nod ahead of rivals Jason Brown and Owain Fon Williams.

  222.   
    Mark Lawrenson, BBC Radio 5 live

    On England v San Marino: "England just need to score early. The longer it takes, the worse it is. But San Marino are already saying to have come just to keep the score down. You know exactly the kind of game England are in for, but it's important that England play with width and try to make the pitch as wide as possible. If they can get behind San Marino I think they will score a bucketful of goals."

  223.   
    Phil McNulty at Wembley, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer

    "England will lose nothing by starting Leighton Baines against San Marino. In outstanding form and hardly likely to be tested defensively.

    "Also allows Ashley Cole to rest his troublesome ankle injury so expect him to earn his 99th England cap against Poland in Warsaw."

  224. 1824: 

    As soon as I write that, Thomas Ince tees up Jack Rodwell, who slams a shot a whisker over the bar from the edge of the box. Serbia seem happy to try and soak up the pressure and catch England on the break... not sure it is working to well for them.

  225. 1823: 

    Things have settled down at Carrow Road. No more yellow cards for a while, and no more England chances either. Almost 25 minutes gone and it remains 0-0.

  226.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Ryan Barnes on Twitter: "Fairly sure the referee is going for a record here what is the highest number of yellows shown in a game. Ridiculously strict."

    Benjamin Overy on Twitter: "Am I the only one who doesn't think England are going to do as well as they should?! I'm not even sure they will grab the win."

    Robert Coyle on Twitter: "If England can absorb the pressure in the tricky first eight seconds, they should be okay..."

  227.   
    Mark Lawrenson, BBC Radio 5 live

    On tonight's World Cup qualifiers: "Wales v Scotland reminds me of the Home Internationals. It will be a fantastic atmosphere and both teams are desperate for the win. It's a tough group - the Belgians have arrived. The other teams look like they're playing for second and if either side are to stand a chance they need to win tonight. I know that's an early shout but I think that's the way it has to be."

  228. 1820: 

    Another BIG chance goes begging. Raheem Sterling slips Thomas Ince clear and he charges into the area... There are no Serbia defenders near him but he takes a touch too many and Branimir Aleksic rushes off his line to block. It's still 0-0 but England really should be ahead.

  229. 1817: 

    This time England force Serbia keeper Branimir Aleksic into a save. Jack Rodwell eventually finds space for a shot from about 25 yards out when a high ball into the box is not cleared, but his Aleksic is right behind his snap-shot.

  230. 1815: 

    It's all England right now. Jack Rodwell nicks the ball and feeds Marvin Sordell on the left of the area. Sordell looks up and tries to find Thomas Ince at the near post but his cross is well dealt with by the Serbian defence.

  231. 1813: 

    England's turn to threaten, and this is a genuine opportunity. Danny Rose scampers forward down the left an floats over an inviting cross from deep that finds Thomas Ince running into the area.

    Ince rises unchallenged to meet it too, but does not make proper contact and sends the ball skidding wide. He should have done a lot better there.

  232. 1811: 

    Well, at least we've had a shot on goal. It's come from Serbia's Sasa Markovic, who lets fly from the edge of the box after Filip Malbasic's is stopped in his tracks. The less said about Markovic's effort, the better though... it was rushed, sliced, and a long way off target.

  233. 1808: 
    YELLOW CARD- England's Raheem Sterling

    We are nine minutes in and there have been more bookings than chances so far. It's at least 2-0 and possibly 3-0 because I'm trying to establish whether another Serbia player got booked for dissent after conceding that Ince free-kick.

    Anyway, there is no doubt when Deniz Aytekin reaches for his pocket a few minutes later, cautioning Raheem Sterling after he chases back and fouls Sasa Markovic. Harsh.

  234. 1806: 

    England's first attack. Thomas Ince wins a free-kick near the right-hand corner and takes it himself... but his low delivery is easily cleared.

  235. 1804: 

    England have not made the best of starts, looking quite nervy and giving the ball away a couple of times in the first few minutes. Still, early days.

  236. 1802: 
    YELLOW CARD- Serbia's Djordje Despotovic

    After just 36 seconds, we get our first card of the night. The snappily named Djordje Despotovic lunges in on Craig Dawson and gets a deserved booking from German referee Deniz Aytekin.

  237. 1801: 
    KICK-OFF- England U21 v Serbia U21 (18:00 BST)

    England get us started.

  238. 1757: 

    It's national anthem time at Carrow Road. Raheem Sterling enjoyed himself when he came here with Liverpool a few weeks ago... a similar scoreline tonight would suit England nicely.

  239. 1752: 

    England Under-21 boss Stuart Pearce on his side's task against Serbia:

    "Your temperament and how you handle the big occasion is important in every game, not just this game which is knockout football. We have to handle that and come out on top and show the talent that has got these players to this point.

    "Serbia are a good side. They are quite impressive, organised and we expect them to come here with a game plan, maybe to sit back and frustrate us, then hit us on the counter attack. You never know, though, goals change games very quickly."

  240.   
    Gary Lineker, BBC Sport

    "If I asked nicely, I wonder if Roy would give me 20 minutes tonight? Still might manage a couple of tap-ins against San Marino!"

  241. 1749: 

    Who was the scorer? A computer salesman called Davide Gualtieri, who I also managed to catch up with. He still has Stuart Pearce's shirt as a souvenir, and told me: "Over here, nobody really knew what was going on but in England there was a big fuss.

    "Even now, some fans from around the world are always coming into my shop with pictures of me and shirts for me to sign. And, when my brother went to Scotland on holiday, they found out who he was and bought him drinks and a meal too."

  242. 1747: 

    When I spoke to him this week, Graham Taylor could not remember the name of the man from San Marino who scored that goal against his side in his last game as England boss (they recovered to win 7-1 but he resigned six days later after they failed to reach World Cup '94), but he remembered his reaction.

    Taylor told me: "When the ball went into the net, I looked up towards the sky and just said quietly to myself 'god, please tell me what I have done wrong'."

  243. 1745: 

    England Under-21 boss Stuart Pearce on Liverpool winger Raheem Sterling, who is in his starting line-up tonight.

    "His ability, what I have seen in training games for Liverpool. Age is no barrier here. He is very young but the talent he has shown both in the Premier League and in training with us made it a natural call for me."

  244.   
    John Motson, BBC Sport

    John Motson's BBC commentary at the start of San Marino v England in November 1993 went as follows: "The stage is set for England's last and decisive match in this World Cup qualifying group. England in red, San Marino in blue, England needing to win by a seven-goal margin and hope that Poland can do them a favour in Poznan against Holland. [Whistle sounds to start game.]

    "I'm sure you're aware now what's at stake. And Nicola Bacciocchi the number nine picks the ball up straight away and San Marino launch the first attack, oh and a mistake by Stuart Pearce and San Marino have scored. I don't believe this."

  245. 1744: 

    As former England captain Alan Shearer said this week, there is no easier game in international football than San Marino, who have only won one game in their history - against Liechtenstein in 2004. Their all-time record reads: P114 W1 D5 L108 F19 A473.

    As you might hear a few times tonight, their entire population of just over 32,000 could fit into Wembley almost three times over, but they are bringing over just 100 travelling fans for tonight's game.

    Mind you, England should not take anything for granted. This is what happened the last time the two teams met, in November 1993...

  246.  
    LINE-UPS- England U21 v Serbia U21 (18:00 BST)

    England U21: Butland, Smith, Caulker, Dawson, Rose, Sterling, Henderson, Rodwell, Ince, Zaha, Sordell. Subs: Steele, Bennett, Lees, Lowe, McEachran, Townsend, Wickham.

    Serbia U21: Aleksic, Mladenovic, Medojevic, Gudelj, Pantic, Malbasic, Lazovic, Milivojevic, Markovic, Despotovic, Milunovic. Subs: Kirovski, Kosanovic, Petkovic, Mudrinski, Causic, Kojic, Jojic.

    Referee: Deniz Aytekin (Germany)

  247.  
    BBC Sport's Ben Smith reports:England U21 v Serbia U21 (18:00 BST)

    "If the task facing the England senior team at Wembley tonight looks a formality, Stuart Pearce's Under-21 side face a far less straightforward task against a Serbia team that was unbeaten in qualifying.

    "With that in mind, Pearce has given Liverpool winger Raheem Sterling his debut at this level and has also named full internationals Jack Butland, Steven Caulker, Jordan Henderson and Jack Rodwell in his starting XI."

  248. 1740: 

    But we start by heading to Norwich. Carrow Road is the setting for the first leg of the European Under-21 Championship play-off between Stuart Pearce's England and Serbia.

    The return is in Krusevac on Tuesday, and the winners go through to the finals in Israel next June.

  249. 1735: 

    England are in action too on a busy night on the road to Brazil 2014. There are 24 qualifiers in total, and there could be as many goals at Wembley when Roy Hodgson's men take on San Marino, the joint-worst team in world football.

    I'm not exaggerating (much) either. San Marino keeper Aldo Simoncini has conceded 114 goals in 27 games between the sticks for the mountain-top minnows from an enclave in Italy. He's a part-time footballer and a full-time accountant, so hopefully we can rely on him to keep count tonight...

  250. 1731: 

    Evening all. It's not so long ago that, when Wales played Scotland, there was a place at the World Cup finals at stake. That's not the case tonight, but there is a still a lot riding on the result... possibly both managers' jobs, for a start.

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