England v India: Third Test, Southampton, day four as it happened

India end day four on 112-4, chasing 445 to win the third Test in Southampton.

30 July 2014 Last updated at 10:36

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As it happened

  1. 18:55: 

    Four perfect days for England. Can they make it a fifth tomorrow? If they do, the series will surely be level at 1-1. I'm sure you won't miss it for the world - so join us tomorrow morning for all the action. In the meantime, relive the day's action with Stephan Shemilt's match report and watch out for Jonathan Agnew's column later. Enjoy the rest of your evening!

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    Michael McDonagh: Very pleased for Cook, but one match doesn't make him the right leader of England. Step away now and open England's batting for five more years.

    Adam Robinson: Re: calling Cook his own man (John Bearn, 18:10) perhaps it's more a case that he actually listened to the criticism and amended his captaincy accordingly?

  3. 18:49: 

    More from England bowling coach David Saker: "It's going to be tough work for the seamers, but we've got a spinner bowling particularly well. Moeen's getting better and better the more he bowls, he's working very hard at it and getting results. Peter Moores has had a big influence on him."

  4. 18:48: 

    More from England bowling coach David Saker: "Chris Jordan was battling a few things yesterday but came out and bowled really well today. He's still young in Test match terms but he's only going to get better. You'd like the guys not playing at the moment to have four-day cricket, but the county schedule doesn't always work that way."

  5. 18:47: 

    England bowling coach David Saker, speaking to Sky Sports: "It's been a good Test for bat and ball so far, we've got one hard day ahead of us but it's been great so far. The impressive thing has been their attitude - they've not blamed anything, they've got stuck in. Jimmy has got back to his magnificent control."

  6. 18:46: 

    And here's what England bowling coach David Saker made of it all...

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Where's the 'if'? They will win this easily. It will lift everybody because the older players have done well. This is the bounce back we have been waiting for."

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    Moeen Ali

    "Moeen Ali now has 14 wickets, you keep doing that, your team mates, the public and the selectors will love you, and you will stay in the team. You have to have a captain and bowler having a rapport with each other."

  9. 18:43: 
    Joe Root

    Following their declaration, and an early tea, England blew away India's top order in the final session of the day. Stuart Broad's fantastic run out of Murali Vijay got things going before part-time off-spinner Moeen Ali took two wickets and Joe Root one on a pitch with plenty of footmarks to bowl into. Marks out of 10? 9.5?

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    Allan Cawtheray: Can't believe people criticising Cook, 132 overs to bowl them out, and gave bowlers a rest. Absolutely the right call!!

    Mark Keeling: People just looking for any reason to criticise. Scored 165 runs and captained well - got to give praise when due.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "The modern players, since Steve Waugh with two great bowlers, changed the thinking to batting and giving bowlers a rest, not following on. I thought this was one time we could have made them follow on, looking at their body language. I thought they were ready to be taken. It's not a criticism, but we batted well, then we have bowled well and they are not good enough to save it - they have gone. Everything has gone England's way in this Test."

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Robson looks alright, then he gets out in a similar way every time. He gets square on, then he nicks it. When better bowlers come along, and I'm not decrying England in this game, is he the best we have? We've had Compton and Carberry, are we still searching? If we played Australia tomorrow, I'd pick Carberry. If Robson does not start to give us more, might we give Carberry another go?"

  13. 18:40: 

    There was, however, another failure for opener Sam Robson who was, once again, caught in the slips for 13...

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Root played a splendid cameo innings, and Ballance was good again. He can bat properly and can whack it, he should be a certainty for the one-day squad, and then he got a terrible decision."

  15. 18:38: 

    England, with a lead of 239 runs, decided not to enforce the follow on and Alastair Cook anchored their second innings with 70 not out from 114 balls. Gary Ballance, after taking a bit of time to get going, went through the gears before lunch and was unlucky to be dismissed for 38, caught at short leg when he didn't hit it, after hitting five fours and a six. Joe Root impressed too, with a quickfire 56 after the interval which hastened England's declaration midway through the afternoon.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "If you like England a wonderful day, almost everything's gone right for them. We were looking for our major players to stand up, Anderson got five and Broad got three. And they can get better."

  17. 18:34: 

    What's happened in this eventful day then? Well, it's encompassed three innings.

    First of all, India's first innings lasted less than half an hour on the fourth morning as James Anderson, on his 32nd birthday, took the wickets of MS Dhoni (50) and Mohammed Shami (5) to dismiss the tourists for 330 all out.

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    Ben in Bournemouth: Runs in both innings with a not out in the second. Held Broad back in India's first innings which gave him a bit of a kick up the backside and brought a few wickets. Oversaw a bowling/fielding performance that saw India fall short of the follow on mark. Declared in the second innings giving his bowlers over 130 overs spread across four sessions to get India out. Brought on Moeen Ali early and saw him get a wicket in his first over. Yeah, Cook's had a terrible game.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "The scoreboard does the talking, England are so far on top, they have had a great day. Rahane and Sharma have got to try to get through to the new ball tomorrow. England have been excellent, India have not quite been at the races this week but they have hope of a little bit of a miracle, but England are very much favourites to make the series 1-1."

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    Naughty Jimmy! Anyway, quickly train your ears on Test Match Special for a review of the day with Geoffrey Boycott.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "Jimmy Anderson and Rahane are in some kind of confrontation, they squared up to each other and the umpires have stepped in. Jimmy does not need to do this with what's going on - just walk off, you've had a great day England."

  22. 18:30: 
    James Anderson

    As James Anderson takes his cap from the umpire and walks off towards the dressing room, he mutters a few choice words in the direction of Ajinkya Rahane. Umpire Rod Tucker steps in - telling the England bowler to pipe down...

  23. 18:30: 
    CLOSE OF PLAY- Ind 112-4

    The final over of the day is delivered by James Anderson, whose birthday cake will taste particularly sweet this evening. He continues to get the ball to jag back in off a length and Ajinkya Rahane does well to deflect the ball into the leg side for a single. Rohit Sharma then takes a quick single before Rahane takes three from the final ball of the over. India reach the close without further loss, meaning England will need six wickets to win the match on the final day.

  24. 18:25: 
    Ind 107-4 (target 445)

    Hang on... Gary Ballance is going to have a bowl. His first ball is a rank long hop and cracked through the off side for four by Ajinkya Rahane, and the third is not much better but some smart fielding limits the batsman to a single. The fifth? Let's just say the umpire was so taken aback, he forgets to signal a wide. Not the best over I've ever seen...

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    Tim Williams: Great decision by Cook to change it up with a couple of overs from Root. Not that he will get any credit from most.

    Adam Turpin: Mixed feelings about Cook's runs. It doesn't make him a better captain, one who can change a game. This papers over the cracks.

    Ed Geary: Listening to cricket makes work fly by, especially when England are putting on a show.

  26. 18:23: 
    DROPPED CATCH- Ind 102-4

    A cheer goes round the Rose Bowl as James Anderson is brought back into the attack for one final push before the close. A cult hero these days, the Burnley Express almost grabs another wicket too when Rohit Sharma pops a return catch low to Anderson's left but the birthday boy can't quite hold on.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "Six wickets to get and I'm very confident England will do that. But looking at Old Trafford, the Jimmy Anderson case becomes very big for this series, he's the main man, the leader of this attack."

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  28. 18:18: 
    Ind 99-4 (Rahane 8, Sharma 3)

    Moeen Ali goes down the Nathan Lyon route of bowling round the wicket to the right-handers and trying to push the ball past the outside edge. Again, just a single for India when Ajinkya Rahane takes one to backward square.

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    Kenton Cota: Virat Kohli should be dropped. No scores of 50+ all series and even Mohammed Shami has more fifties this series. No player is indispensable.

  30. 18:15: 
    Ind 98-4 (target 445)

    Stuart Broad is defying his knee injury in this match as he steams in and constantly hits a decent length, while also keeping the batsmen honest with some very sharp bouncers. A single and a leg bye, both down to fine leg, edge India towards 100. Not that such milestones matter now.

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    Paul Atkinson: I apologise, Cook actually got it right it appears. I reserve the right to amend this tweet if India are still in tomorrow night.

  32. 18:11: 
    Ind 96-4 (Rahane 7, Sharma 2)

    Flight, drift, the odd bit of spin: Moeen Ali is putting in a superb spell now. However, when he does drop short, Ajinkya Rahane is quick to latch on to it and hammer four to the vacant mid-wicket boundary area. Jimmy Anderson is warming up for one last spell...

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    John Bearn: Alastair Cook. May the gods save you from ex-captains of England! 'Should do this','Should do that'! Alastair, continue to be your own man. Well done. You have guts. Real guts.

    Rob: Cook's fortunes have changed for the better ever since that wicket! He should bowl more...

  34. 18:08: 
    Ind 90-4 (target 445)

    Before we get carried away, has anyone checked to ensure there are no biblical floods forecast for Southampton tomorrow? The sun is setting on another excellent day's cricket at the Rose Bowl, with long shadows forming on the ground while Rohit Sharma plays out another maiden over to Stuart Broad. Six overs left in the day.

    Here's tomorrow's forecast for Southampton: sunny! Phew!

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    Former Glamorgan and England batsman Steve James, now of the Sunday Telegraph: I sincerely hope no one gets badly injured in the mad scramble to leap off the 'Cook out!' bandwagon...

  36. 18:05: 
    Ind 90-4 (Rahane 2, Sharma 1)

    Moeen Ali to Ajinkya Rahane. Six dots. Over.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's been four outstanding days for England, they have produced four days here right out of the top drawer. They would love Jordan and Woakes to produce a couple of wickets, but otherwise it's been a good week so far."

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  38. 18:04: 
    Ind 90-4 (target 445)

    This performance has been like the England of old. They have scored big runs, chipped away at India's batting order in their first knock and are now making full use of a fourth day pitch in the tourists' second dig. They have that chirpiness back in the field too, with their four-strong slip cordon and wicketkeeper particularly vocal as Stuart Broad sends down a maiden over.

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    Andy Crisp: Some great decisions from Cook this Test match. Absolute credit to the man who looked a tad lost in previous Tests.

    Si Lomas: Buttler has kept excellently, keep up this level of competence and add in his batting style it gives us a new dimension.

    Reza Zaidi: Match should be done and dusted by lunch on the 5th. No mental strength being shown by India.

  40. 17:58: 
    Ind 90-4 (Moeen 9-1-26-2)

    Alastair Cook has played a blinder with this declaration, hasn't he?! It's all going swimmingly as Rohit Sharma joins Ajinkya Rahane at the crease. The Indians are playing Moeen Ali as if he's Muttiah Muralitharan.

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special

    "It was a good, sharp catch, they are not easy to take but it stuck in his glove. That's a big wicket for England!"

  42. 17:54: 
    WICKET- Kohli c Buttler b Moeen 28 (Ind 89-4)
    Virat Kohli is caught by Jos Buttler

    There's no stopping Moeen now as he scalps another of India's batting stars - this time Virat Kohli playing for the spin to the one which goes straight on and Jos Buttler takes a juggling catch behind the stumps.


  43. 17:53: 
    Ind 87-3 (target 445)

    All of a sudden, Alastair Cook seems to be blessed with plenty of bowling options as he recalls Stuart Broad to the attack. It was Broad, remember, who got the ball rolling this evening with that fabulous run out of Murali Vijay. A probing over outside off stump, with the odd bumper slipped in for good measure.

    Ed Smith, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Moeen Ali's taken 10 wickets in the series, and I think everyone in the England team would have taken that."

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  45. 17:47: 
    Ind 87-3 (Kohli 26, Rahane 2)

    If you fancy getting down to the Rose Bowl tomorrow, tickets are priced at £15 for adults and £1 for children. Get earning some extra pocket money tonight, kids. Wash the dishes, clean Dad's car - whatever helps you raise a quid. Moeen Ali returns to the bowling attack and he begins to give the ball air via his loopy action. Just one from the over.

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    Tom, Trowbridge: Even if India bat really well, their remaining nine batsmen need to average 40 for them to win.

    Bradley Winand: Re: 17.17 - Some of this criticism of Cook is getting quite ridiculous. He's now being criticised for not trying to win in four days.

  47. 17:44: 
    Ind 86-3 (target 445)

    That was only the fourth wicket of Joe Root's Test career, after he got rid of Michael Clarke, Usman Khawaja and Ed Cowan at various stages of last summer. He's certainly a handy part-time bowler to have in the ranks. Ajinkya Rahane is the new batsman and he's faced with a difficult final 45 minutes until the close. A single into the off side gets him off the mark.

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special

    "It was a good ball, it bounced and turned and Jordan took another sharp catch. Dhawan was yet another batsman who got settled and was then dismissed."

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  50. 17:38: 
    WICKET- Dhawan c Jordan b Root 37 (Ind 80-3)
    Joe Root celebrates a wicket

    Rooooooooot! Joe's name echoes round the Rose Bowl as he gets one to pitch in the rough and, rather like Moeen's dismissal of Che Pujara, the ball takes the outside edge. Chris Jordan does the rest at first slip.


  51. 17:32: 
    DRINKS BREAK- Ind 78-2 (Dhawan 36, Kohli 20)

    That's better! The smile is back on Chris Jordan's face as he gets one to nip back into Virat Kohli and comes ever so close to bowling the batsman while he's shouldering arms. When he does, once again, stray onto the leg side however, he is clipped for an easy two. There's plenty of reverse swing to keep him interested. Drinks.

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    Tim Green: If you knock Chef's 165 runs off England's total, this game would be in the balance. Cook the opener is making life a lot easier for Cook the captain!

  53. 17:29: 
    Scorecard update
    Moeen Ali and umpire Marais Erasmus

    India 76-2 (27 overs) - target 445

    Batsmen: Dhawan 36*, Kohli 18*

    Fall of wickets: 26-1 (Vijay 12), 29-2 (Pujara 2)

    Bowling figures: Anderson 6-3-5-0, Broad 5-1-17-0, Woakes 5-2-7-0, Moeen 7-1-22-1, Jordan 3-0-14-0, Root 1-0-3-0.

    England 1st innings: 569-7 dec (Bell 167, Ballance 156)

    India 1st innings: 330 (Rahane 54, Dhoni 50, Anderson 5-53)

    England 2nd innings: 205-4 dec (Cook 70*, Root 56)


  54. 17:28: 
    Ind 76-2 (target 445)

    Joe Root is called upon by Captain Cook, and immediately goes round the wicket to both the right-handed Virat Kohli and the left-handed Shikhar Dhawan. A tidy start - just three runs coming from it.

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    Patrick Coad: Some of the umpiring in this series has been terrible - best advert for DRS, worst advert for umpiring accuracy. Some of the calls in this series could have been made properly by Boycott's mother looking through her pinny.

  56. 17:24: 
    Ind 73-2 (Dhawan 34, Kohli 17)

    Chris Jordan is, slowly but surely, honing that radar and he does everything right in inducing an edge from Shikhar Dhawan which runs away for four through the slips. Unlucky!

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    Fenners: Adil Rashid has to be the spin option. Good leg spinner, can bat too and is only 26. Don't understand why he isn't being considered.

  58. 17:19: 
    Ind 69-2 (Moeen 7-1-22-1)

    Moeen Ali's success so far means Alastair Cook can rotate his fast bowlers and also whittle through a few extra overs before the close of play tonight. Virat Kohli is offering the part-time offie (when do we ditch that title?) plenty of respect as he defends back a maiden.

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    Harry Cunningham: For all the crowing of "Cook was right", had he made them follow on the game could be finished tonight. Cook was wrong.

  60. 17:17: 
    Ind 69-2 (Dhawan 30, Kohli 17)

    One for the snappers! Make that two for the snappers!

    Virat Kohli punches Chris Jordan back down the ground for four, before playing a classical cover drive to the boundary one ball later. He then edges a single to gully to put Shikhar Dhawan on strike, and a decent inswinging yorker is just about dug out by the left-hander.

    Phil Tufnell, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "Dhawan's had his life, as did a few of the England players to be fair. There have been a few iffy ones in this game, and I don't mean to have a go at umpires, but I'm sure Gary Ballance will be thinking it's a tough game."

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    Simon Mills: How is Moeen doing? Great! So what spinner do we want for the Old Trafford Test?

  63. 17:13: 
    Ind 60-2 (target 445)

    It's never dull with Shikhar Dhawan, who clouts some short stuff from Moeen Ali to the boundary before padding away another one which straightens. He is then beaten on the outside edge. Kicking the ball away seems to be a dangerous game for the left-hander to be playing.

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    Thomas Lawlor: Cricket board games - Dujons and Dragons, Ponting-toon.

  65. 17:09: 
    Ind 56-2 (Dhawan 26, Kohli 8)

    Chris Jordan, who sprayed the ball all over the place in the first innings, is given his chance to make amends but he's still not quite hitting his straps with only good fielding and a couple of leaves helping him finish by conceding just a single.

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    Daniel Rajan Mills: The easy thing for Cook would have been to be 'brave' and declare early. Instead he made the unpopular but logical decision.

    Steven Ricketts: Couple more today and polish them off by mid afternoon tomorrow. Silence the doubters of Cook, right to kill the game and bat again.

    Tristan Watson: Cook got this spot-on psychologically. Setting India an almost impossible runs chase gives them little to play for.

  67. 17:04: 
    Ind 55-2 (target 445)
    Virat Kohli hits out

    Hearts in mouths for India as Moeen spins one past Kohli's forward prod, but the ball goes between wicketkeeper Buttler's legs for four byes which takes India past 50. Kohli threads a two to deep extra cover.

    Phil Tufnell, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "I'm angry about that Dhawan lbw, it's been proved that DRS should be in. Hitting the middle of middle - it was out. As a fellow member of the spin-bowling brotherhood I'm angry about that one."

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    Ian Mayor: England's bowlers practising their appeals - How's Yahtzee! If Alastair Cook's performance and strategy wins this Test he has clearly been playing Mastermind.

    Adrian, Colchester: With all the action around the bat - Battleslips.

    Neil Hawkins: Sub-Root-eo.

  70. 17:01: 
    Ind 49-2 (Dhawan 25, Kohli 6)

    Left-hander Dhawan ducks a bouncer from Woakes - with 21 overs left tonight, how England would relish nipping another one or two out before the close. The luckless Woakes, having taken 1-96 on his Test debut last summer and 0-60 in the first innings, will be desperate for a wicket before his bowling average goes stratospheric. He looks set for a maiden over until Dhawan waits to steer a four through the covers. Meanwhile, Stuart Broad returns to the field at the end of the over.

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    Gary Mahoney: Cook can't win. First up he is criticised for not enforcing the follow on, now he is being slammed for declaring too soon. Give the Chef a break! #saveourchef

    Vic Marks, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "Dhawan is short of runs, but I thought after his first ball he was going to go hell-for-leather and hit his way back into form."

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  73. 16:57: 
    Ind 45-2 (target 445)

    Moeen Ali chats with Ian Bell at mid-off between deliveries. Apparently, the England batsman has been mentoring Moeen with his bowling out in the middle throughout this summer - advising him what fields to set, what balls to bowl etc. Three runs from another tidy over.

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    England's Sam Robson, Moeen Ali and Joe Root celebrate a wicket

    Pete S, Northants: Moeen, Moeen, Moeen, Moeen, I'm begging of you please to bowl Dhawan...

  75. 16:54: 
    Ind 42-2 (Dhawan 20, Kohli 4)

    The good news for England is that this Indian wobble has been brought about off the bowling of two of their back-up bowlers - Chris Woakes and Moeen Ali. The paceman and the off-spinner are operating well in tandem, with Woakes rightly having a leg-before appeal against Virat Kohli turned down because of an inside edge. Maiden.

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    Charlie in Moscow: Presumably, with Cook as captain, they won't be playing Risk.

    David Morren: Stokes and Ladders [see 16:36]? Surely that should be Stokes and Aggers!

    Chris Williams: Dungeons & drag-ons?

  77. 16:51: 
    APPEAL - NOT OUT- Ind 42-2

    Such is the current stage in Moeen Ali's development, he is still prone to sending down the odd bad ball and one such delivery is whacked through the leg side for four by Shikhar Dhawan. Undeterred, Moeen gets one to straighten and rap Dhawan on the pads. A huge appeal. Not out. Replays shows it should have been curtains for the batsman. Is the opener on borrowed time?

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    Dan Noden: Clu-Dhoni.

    Marcus Cole: Strauss Trap!

    Jason, Stoke: Any other Test, I would say Jenga because it collapses easily. But not this time!

    (And for the legions of you emailing in with Ker-Plunkett and Bucka-Root - we did have those at 16:11).

  79. 16:47: 
    Ind 38-2 (Dhawan 16, Kohli 4)

    England are preying on Virat Kohli's ego as they pitch the ball up and tempt the right-hander into driving. He's left his car keys at home for now, playing back a maiden over to Chris Woakes.

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    A house outside the Rose Bowl

    "Have a look at this. On the left, in the shadows, are two houses, quite apart from any other homes. On the right, the white structure is the unfinished hotel in Southampton. Can you imagine living that close? A Test ground is only across the road. Not good if you don't like cricket, though."

  81. 16:44: 
    Ind 38-2 (target 445)

    Moeen Ali finally gets an opportunity to aim for the rough outside the off stump of the left-handed Shikhar Dhawan, and he makes it count with one which spits at the batsman and is taken at throat height by Jos Buttler. The jittery batsman then kicks one away and a strong, but rather optimistic, appeal is turned down. The over ends with Moeen straying down leg and Dhawan clipping the ball to the mid-wicket boundary.

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    James Dawkins: Trivial Purs-Root?

    David Lakin: It's simple. Frustration!

    Nick Armstrong: Always been a big fan of Connect Vaughan and Bumbledown...

    Vic Marks, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "These two are the Indian batsmen with the big reputations and they have not fired yet."

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  84. 16:40: 
    Ind 34-2 (Dhawan 12, Kohli 4)

    The fresh-faced Chris Woakes, who looks like his Mum still irons his pristine whites, is making the ball talk himself - beating Shikhar Dhawan's outside edge with a jaffa. How he could do with a wicket to kick-start his return to the team. Just a single in the over.

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    O'Boogie: Moeen, Moeen will tear you apart again.

    Jeff Hardy: Moeen is the new Graeme Swann!

    Jack Tecwyn: Cook has shown incredible strength of character. He's batted well in both innings and made all the right decisions.

  86. 16:36: 
    Ind 33-2 (13 overs)

    There are four catchers around the bat for Moeen Ali now, who sees the new batsman Virat Kohli get off the mark with two twos. Moeen will be well happy... he's got a wicket and the ball's turning.

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    Paul Jenkins: Monop-Ali.

    Brian Tomlinson, Derby: Moeenopoly?

    Russell Hughes: Stokes and Ladders?

    Chris, Southampton: If they were having a game of Cluedo, my money would definitely be on the Buttler...

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Looks like a straight on ball, he's playing for the turn and it's gone straight, and a nice catch at slip. If you have the ability to take wickets, you will stay in the side and be a very big asset. It's a funny old game, we often say, you get one wicket, you get two."

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  89. 16:31: 
    WICKET- Pujara c Jordan b Moeen 2 (Ind 29-2)
    Cheteshwar Pujara edges

    England are on the rampage now. Moeen Ali is chucked the ball and, with his second delivery, he gets one to take Che Pujara's outside edge where Chris Jordan is on hand to take an athletic, diving catch at first slip. The biggest compliment I can pay Moeen? Graeme Swann could quite easily have sent down that ball...


  90. 16:30: 
    Scorecard update

    India 28-1 (12 overs) - target 445

    Batsmen: Dhawan 10*, Pujara 2*

    Fall of wickets: 26-1 (Vijay 12)

    Bowling figures: Anderson 6-3-5-0, Broad 5-1-17-0, Woakes 1-0-2-0.

    England 1st innings: 569-7 dec (Bell 167, Ballance 156)

    India 1st innings: 330 (Rahane 54, Dhoni 50, Anderson 5-53)

    England 2nd innings: 205-4 dec (Cook 70*, Root 56)


  91. 16:29: 
    Ind 28-1 (target 445)

    England are delighted with that breakthrough, and there's a renewed skip in their stride as Che Pujara gets into all sorts of trouble against a short one from Chris Woakes. The number three is, incidentally, off the mark with two past mid-on. Time for some spin...

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "When you get into a slightly defensive frame of mind, some people go soporific in the brain, and this was one of those moments. I saw Broad move quite slowly, and he nearly got home, but I'm not sure he should have been trying for a run in that situation. But you have got to be ready for a run at any time, you cannot switch off for one second."

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  93. 16:23: 
    WICKET- Vijay run out 12 (Ind 26-1)
    England celebrate after dismissing Murali Vijay

    What a waste of a wicket! Shikhar Dhawan fends off a short ball from Chris Woakes and there's a little delay from Murali Vijay in setting off for the single, long enough for Stuart Broad to race in from short mid-wicket and score a diving, direct hit. Gone!


  94. 16:23: 

    What's happening here? Chris Woakes into the attack and the Indian openers go for an easy single - only for Stuart Broad to throw down the stumps. It's close, you know. Murali Vijay could be a goner...

  95. 16:20: 
    Ind 26-0 (Vijay 12, Dhawan 10)

    There's been less chat from James Anderson in this match, and the Burnley Express even offers the umpire a smile on his way back to his mark between deliveries. A single to Murali Vijay allows him to continue probing away at Shikhar Dhawan, who gets an inside edge to one which darts back in before tipping a gentle single into the off side.

    Andrew Samson, BBC Test Match Special statistician

    As India proceed at a stately pace...

    "Geoff Boycott's strike rate in Test cricket was 35.4 per 100 balls."

  97. 16:16: 
    Ind 24-0 (target 445)

    Bruce (see below), you win the award for email of the day. I'm afraid there's no prize, but it's a title to be proud of. Any more for any more on the board game theme?

    Murali Vijay takes advantage of surviving an optimistic lbw appeal from Stuart Broad to clip three into the leg side. England will have hoped to have done more with the new ball by now. Patience is key though.

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    Lee Kearley: What is the record number of wickets that a team have declared in a match (9 for England in this one) and gone on to lose?

    Rich Darby: Not wanting to tempt fate, but have a team failed to win after declaring twice in two days?

  99. 16:11: 
    Ind 19-0 (target 445)

    Shikhar Dhawan's strength outside off stump is also his weakness, and James Anderson continues to prey on those insecurities - only a single into the leg side coming from another probing over.

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    Bruce, Bury St Edmunds: Re: 15:55 regarding ways to relax between innings, the England team could play Ker-Plunkett, Bucka-Root, Scrab-Bell or just ordinary Broad games.

  101. 16:07: 
    Ind 19-0 (Vijay 8, Dhawan 7)

    A string of dots is ended when Stuart Broad bowls too straight to Murali Vijay, who helps the ball down to the fine leg boundary. The right-hander is still looking vulnerable against the ball which jags back in, though, and takes two via an inside edge into the leg side.

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    Josh from Bedford: Really hope Cook gives Ballance a go with his leggies in this innings. Could be dangerous out of the rough.

  103. 16:03: 
    Ind 13-0 (target 445)
    James Anderson

    The sparse Rose Bowl crowd encourages the England team with the odd clap, cheer or even appeal. James Anderson is posing Shikhar Dhawan all sorts of problems from round the wicket, but an lbw shout falls down when the bowler momentarily forgets to appeal as he seeks to field the ball. A third maiden on the bounce.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's about what they do tonight with the new conker as to whether they have a long, tiresome day in the field tomorrow. It's whether the Indian batsmen have the mental thought process to bat carefully. They have to make England take 10 wickets, play with a certain amount of care and attention."

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  105. 16:00: 
    Ind 13-0 (Vijay 2, Dhawan 7)

    England's seamers have somehow developed a sharp bouncer which follows the batsman, and it's making life uncomfortable for Murali Vijay who is almost sconned by one such delivery and then dangerously fends off another into the vicinity of short leg. Six dots for Stuart Broad.

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special

    "Both teams have missed a specialist spinner, especially India. They will look back and think they wanted Ashwin, but hindsight's a wonderful thing. You never know, at Old Trafford it might not spin!"

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  107. 15:55: 
    Ind 13-0 (target 445)

    It's fairly obvious England chose to bat today so that their bowlers could rest up, but what will the fast bowlers have got up to? A Phil Tufnell-style nap in the dressing room? A massage from the physio? Maybe they got the board games out? A quick game of Ker-Plunk is always good for morale!

    James Anderson certainly didn't bother having a shave, as he sends down another maiden - this time to Shikhar Dhawan, who is being tested from round the wicket.

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    Andrew Davies: How about Dean Cosker of Glamorgan as a potential England spinner - if only for the rest of the season?

    Richard Burt: Danny Briggs surely will get a chance soon for the spin bowler position. A very clever young player, never flustered, often out-thinks opponents.

  109. 15:51: 
    Ind 13-0 (Vijay 2, Dhawan 7)

    Stuart Broad, with his shirt neatly tucked into his trousers and his hair neatly styled, strays on to Shikhar Dhawan's legs and is worked for two before a rib-tickler is tucked away for a single. Murali Vijay also benefits from some leggy stuff as he helps four leg byes down to fine leg.

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    Max from Boro: Jimmy, at 32, is at the peak of his powers. I expect him to take all 10 wickets. He won't get them all in this session, of course. That would be crazy.

    Ajay Pandey (Indian supporter), Leamington Spa: I genuinely think that this team is not far off from the golden days of English cricket when they used to beat Australia in Australia and India in India. All they need is a bit of team spirit, camaraderie among players as well as the captain leading from the front.

  111. 15:46: 
    Ind 6-0 (target 445)

    James Anderson is stringing together the dot balls - bringing up a maiden over to Murali Vijay with one of those vicious bouncers which ends up following the batsman as he sways out of the way.

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    Mike Tooes: Has anybody mentioned that it is Cook's courage that has got England in such a strong position. Choosing to bat on a green wicket in his and the team's situation must not have been straightforward. I agree with Chris Gould (15:31) it was the right time to declare, any sooner could have been a mistake.

  113. 15:43: 
    Ind 6-0 (Vijay 2, Dhawan 4)

    Shikhar Dhawan, whose best score in this series is the 31 he scored in the second innings at Lord's, crunches the first delivery he faces to the cover boundary. However, it isn't long before he is being beaten outside off stump by the swinging delivery. On the television, they dig out clips of the left-hander being given one-on-one coaching by Duncan Fletcher. Has he been listening? Allow me to shamelessly plug a recent feature I wrote on India coach Fletcher.

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    Peter Green: Spin bowler Gareth Batty should be called up. At 36 years of age he may be considered a little old but that shouldn't be held against him. Boxer George Foreman retired at the age of 48, with a final record of 76 wins to five losses. Not bad for an old dude who also managed to "reinvent the wheel" by selling 100 million grilling machines to 100 million people who already have a grill.

  115. 15:38: 
    DROPPED CATCH- Ind 2-0

    The birthday boy, James Anderson, has four slips in place to Murali Vijay who offers up a sharp chance almost straight away with a lofted punch down the ground which the Burnley Express just gets his fingertips to. Two runs taken. Perhaps most pertinently, the ball is swinging.

  116. 15:34: 

    Your stage is set, James Anderson...

    Alec Stewart, Former England captain & Test Match Special summariser

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    Chris Gould: Why is everyone so negative about Cook? As Dravid says, India only need 3.3 an over to win! Cook has it spot on and England will win.

  119. 15:31: 

    Thanks, Mark. Remember those dark days when the skipper didn't score any runs, the other batsmen were no better and the bowlers looked shot? I'm glad they are in the past...!

  120. 15:31: 

    After that brief chat with Hampshire chairman Rod Bransgrove, TMS are going over to Kevin Howells for the county scores.

    Meanwhile, with India about to start their run chase, it's time to hand to Marc Higginson for the rest of the day - strap yourselves in, it's going to be nearly a three-hour session, considering how slowly England tend to bowl their overs.

    Stephan Shemilt, BBC Sport at the Rose Bowl

    "In a trip from the TMS box, through the media centre and outside I see, in order; Steve Harmison, Shane Warne, Mike Atherton, Andrew Strauss, Rahul Dravid and Sourav Ganguly. If cricket did six-a-side (it does, indoors), that's not a bad side."

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    Rupert Mercer: Waiting to declare wasn't being conservative; Cook wanted to give his bowlers a bit more rest.


    Hampshire chairman Rod Bransgrove on TMS: "The counties are being asked to de-risk the ECB, which seems perverse. The potential to make money out of Test matches is limited by the fee you have to pay - if you have a bigger ground, you can sell more tickets but you have to pay a bigger fee. If there are three Tests in London each year, there's only four Tests per year to spread between seven grounds. I'm looking for fairness and transparency in the decision-making. We would accept a fair decision if we knew how it had been made. Everyone wants to play at Lord's, they host matches brilliantly and I'm happy for Lord's to be treated separately from the other grounds. Our competition for staging games is with the other grounds."

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    Andy Myerson, London: I don't know what all the fuss is about - South Africa knocked off 438 in a 50 over day game a few years back so this should be no problem in a day and a half!


    Hampshire chairman Rod Bransgrove on TMS: "As soon as we're awarded a major event, whether that be an ECB event or a concert, we have the option of taking over all of the hotel. We will close the golf course for maintenance so there's no other traffic. If we then decide to release hotel rooms to the general public, we can - we have control of it on major event days."

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    Nigel from Cheshire: Cook cautious? Seems his only objective is to give India a fighting chance of snatching a draw from certain defeat. When oh when will the powers that be realise what England fans want is a captain who has confidence in his team to do the job.


    Hampshire chairman Rod Bransgrove on TMS: "The hotel will be finished in March next year - we've had to make do in certain areas, but we're looking forward to completing the media centre next year and presenting tailored broadcast facilities for everyone. When this is all done, I've got to consider what to do with my life as there won't be any more major construction when this is all done."

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special

    "With England setting 445, India have a minimum of 132 overs, they should think they could bat that out and at three an over they might get close! They should bat normally, take it one over at a time and try to be only one or two down by the close tonight."

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    Hampshire chairman Rod Bransgrove on TMS: "We're thrilled to bits with the way it's gone on the pitch - we had good attendances for the first couple of days, although it's been tailing off since then. The Indians could only spend a finite amount of time here, and to fit five Tests into the period in which you would normally have four Tests, one Test had to start on a Sunday, though I don't know what the process was [to decide which one]. Obviously we'd have preferred to start on a Thursday, but I think we've made a good shot of it."

  130. 15:18: 

    As the players help themselves to a cuppa and a slice of cake (or more likely get stuck into isotonic energy drinks and protein shakes), I can tell you that India will have a minimum of 132 overs to face in the match when play resumes at around 15:35 BST.

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special

    "England played well, they scored at over five runs an over and India have a challenging session this evening. It's a big test for the young Indian batting line up, so it will be interesting to see how they stand up to it."

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  132. 15:14: 
    Alastair Cook & Joe Root

    India will need to score a world record 445 to win.

    And the declaration has come so close to tea, that tea will be taken immediately. As ever, tea is a moveable feast.

  133. 15:13: 
    WICKET- Root b Jadeja 56 (Eng 205-4 dec)

    Left-arm spinner Ravindra Jadeja back into the attack, and Cook helps himself to four through square leg. A single brings Root on strike - and after adding another four, he is bowled attempting to slog, and England declare.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "Pull them in now then you get that 20 minutes before tea, you'd have to declare now but it's clearly not their intentions to do that."

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  135. 15:10: 
    Eng 196-3 (lead by 435)

    A touch of the unorthodox from Joe Root as he crouches down and Dilscoops Kumar over his head for four - he didn't know much about it as he was facing the ground by the time he made contact! A big biff over the top brings him four more, then an aggressive clout through mid-off brings up his sixth Test fifty - and his fastest so far - from 38 balls. Two more singles take Root to 52, Cook to 65, and England's lead to 435.

    Do England really, seriously, think they need any more runs here? Tick, tock, goes the clock...

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    Tim Hall: I think Cook should declare when he's about 90 not out - show that he's a strong captain who doesn't care about individual records. The press would love it, he'd be a hero again and I can get a job as his PR consultant.

    Andrew Samson, BBC Test Match Special statistician

    "We're now into world record territory. If India were to win, it would be a world record."

    The highest successful run chase in Test history was 418-7 by West Indies against Australia in Antigua in 2003.

  138. 15:06: 
    Eng 182-3 (lead by 421)
    Alastair Cook

    A glove-punch between overs by the England batsmen - their body language does not suggest a declaration is imminent. Cook turns a single off his toes, Root rotates the strike to push the lead to the magic figure of 418, while a wide advances the total and another two from the skipper takes him to 64.

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    Will in Northumberland: India waiting for England to declare is like waiting for your mum to finish her shopping. The longer it goes on, the more frustrated you get.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "I hope India stick with Pankaj at Old Trafford. He could have a game where, if he bowls like he did on the first day here, he could take a few wickets."

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  141. 15:00: 
    APPEAL - NOT OUT- Eng 177-3 (lead by 416)

    A comedy moment as Cook guides Kumar down to fine leg, where the lumbering Pankaj Singh, all 6ft 6ins of him, falls over while retrieving the ball. He does better with the next ball, a sharp return to the keeper as Root helps himself to a single. India then appeal for a catch behind against Cook - that looked more like it flicked his pad than his bat. Good decision by umpire Rod Tucker. A single stretches the lead to 412, and then Root manages to bisect the slip cordon for four more. He has 38, Cook has 61.

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    Rachel T: When it comes to it, I REALLY hope Cook puts one hand on his hip and drawls in an accent from deepest Alabama, "I do declare!"

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "England are obviously very confident that the pitch is still doing enough to create 10 opportunities to win the Test."

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  144. 14:56: 
    Eng 168-3 (lead by 407)

    Right-arm seamer Mohammed Shami has been a little under-used in this innings, only sending down two of the first 36 overs, but he's going to have a little trundle here from the Northern End. Alastair Cook manages a single - "come on England" yells a spectator - and the shackles are briefly loosened as Root pulls a loose delivery for four.

    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "I really want Pankaj to get somebody out here. He's bowled better than the worst debut bowling figures in Test history - and I liked the way he batted."

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    Nic Cooper: At the risk of sounding like Shane Warne, you've gotta be prepared to lose to win, mate. Declare now Cook.

    Alan Edwards: I've been behind Cook all the way, but if he doesn't declare with a 400 lead and a pitch still threatening, I'll be disappointed.

    Mark Palmer: Sharp turn out there now perhaps G Ballance should be given a few overs, he is due some luck after his two "dismissals".

  147. 14:50: 
    Eng 163-3 (lead by 402)

    Bhuvneshwar Kumar takes over at the Pavilion End, this drinks break has taken seven minutes... A helmeted captain Mahendra Dhoni is standing up to the stumps to keep Joe Root in his crease, he aims a flashing cut shot but doesn't connect cleanly and the ball trickles to first slip. The Yorkshire youngster eventually taps a single to cover, Cook steers one to backward point.

    But I sense England need to get a shift on...

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    Steve Lee: Wonder if John Emburey would consider coming out of retirement for Old Trafford?

    The Middlesex off-spinner was recalled for what was the last of his 64 Tests, aged 42, in 1995 at Old Trafford. He went wicketless as England beat West Indies by six wickets.

  149. 14:45: 

    Thanks, Higgy. Wouldn't 400 have been an obvious landmark to declare? Instead, a lengthy drinks break takes more time out of the game. (There are 48 overs left today).

    To be honest, any team chasing 400 from this position deserves to win a Test. It's not like they can smuggle Virender Sehwag into the line-up...

    Incidentally, you can now hear the lunchtime "Ask Dravid" Q&A again as it's available on the TMS podcast page.

  150. 14:42: 
    Scorecard update

    England 161-3 (35 overs) - lead by 400 runs

    Batsmen: Cook 55*, Root 28*

    Fall of wickets: 22-1 (Robson 13), 80-2 (Ballance 38), 106-3 (Bell 23)

    Bowling figures: Kumar 7-0-34-1, Pankaj 10-4-33-0, Shami 2-0-14-0, Sharma 5-0-32-0, Jadeja 10-1-43-2, Vijay 1-0-1-0.

    England 1st innings: 569-7 dec (Bell 167, Ballance 156)

    India 1st innings: 330 (Rahane 54, Dhoni 50, Anderson 5-53)


    Phil Tufnell, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "There's sharp turn out of those footholds, they are darkening a bit. England would love a left-armer now."

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  152. 14:42: 
    DRINKS BREAK- Eng 161-3

    Ravindra Jadeja sends down the odd boundary ball, and his latest long hop is pulled to the backward square boundary by Joe Root. Jadeja can also send down some absolute crackerjacks too as he gets one to turn and bounce, but it's too good for both the batsman and the wicketkeeper and runs away for four byes. England's lead is now 400, after Alastair Cook slog-sweeps another boundary. Time for drinks, and time for a change in commentator: Mark Mitchener is here to take you through to tea.

  153. 14:38: 
    Eng 148-3 (lead by 387)

    Joe Root decides it's time to put his foot on the pedal by scoring two boundaries in three balls - the first a pull down to fine leg and the second a back-foot punch through the covers. Another 11 from the over.

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    Alan, Eastbourne: Why isn't Jos Buttler the next man in - it would really suit the situation, surely?

  155. 14:35: 
    50 FOR ALASTAIR COOK- Eng 137-3

    Alastair Cook reaches his second half-century of the match and his 36th in Test cricket in fine fashion - getting down on one leg and sweeping Ravindra Jadeja for four. He is well and truly back in form now.

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    Mart, Hull: Need to get lead of 420 and declare at tea. Give the Indians a carrot...

    Adrian: England have turned up this time, the groundsman has produced a great Test wicket, so why why why did some idiot start the Test on a Sunday!

  157. 14:31: 
    Eng 131-3 (lead by 370)

    Spin from both ends now, with part-time twirler Rohit Sharma given a chuck. Both Alastair Cook and Joe Root are happy to tap singles into the vast open spaces of the Rose Bowl outfield - four of them in the over.

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    Andrew Haney: This must be Alastair Cook's worst decision yet, bowlers still fresh, ball swinging you MUST enforce follow-on, if the weather breaks tomorrow India could manage a draw... this was a no-brainer, what is Cook thinking?

    Paul Thackray: We hear about bowler rotation being essential to keep bowlers at peak performance levels but what about batsmen? While with bowlers it is a physical consideration, batsmen have to cope with the hardship of mental concentration and to a lesser degree the physical side. Perhaps the young lads like Robson would benefit from a break rather than being dropped.

  159. 14:28: 
    Eng 127-3 (Cook 44, Root 9)

    Ravindra Jadeja's plan? Fizz the ball as hard and fast as he can into the rough created by those thundering fast bowlers. Two more singles added to the score.

    Phil Tufnell, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "I would love to be bowling on this surface now - England could do with another spinner. They want 120 to 130 overs, and they definitely want to be bowling before tea for a good go at them."

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  161. 14:25: 
    Eng 124-3 (lead by 363)

    More chin music for Joe Root, but Pankaj Singh just isn't quick enough to pose too much of a problem. Rather than sending down panic-inducing, heavy-metal style chin music in the manner of Mitchell Johnson, it's almost a gentle lullaby as Root easily pulls a single into the ground.

    Cook tips a single past backward point before Root rides another shortish delivery and punches it for three off the back foot. Cook ends the over by edging through the gully and benefitting from another two runs.

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    Rob, London: In response to Simon Arnold (14:00) - perhaps Cook is hoping that by day five the pitch will offer plenty of gripe for our part-time moaners, allowing them to grumble through the Indian batting line-up in no time at all.

  163. 14:20: 
    Eng 117-3 (Cook 39, Root 4)

    MS Dhoni still employs a fairly attacking field, with a slip, leg slip and short leg in place for Alastair Cook. The leg slip is almost brought into play too, when Cook tickles four round the corner. Five from the over.

    Vic Marks, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
    India's Pankaj Singh

    "Pankaj has probably been dreaming of playing for India for years, he's bowled pretty well but he's not taken a wicket."

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  165. 14:17: 
    Eng 111-3 (lead by 351)

    "Get on with it," shouts a spectator as Alastair Cook struggles to get Pankaj Singh away - eventually returning the strike to Joe Root with a single through the off side. Root is tested with some short stuff, and he plays it well as he drags a single into the ground and into the direction of backward square.

    Steve Harmison, Ex-England pace bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "One thing that has to happen at Old Trafford is we have to get a spinner into the team, who it is is anyone's guess."

  167. 14:12: 
    Eng 109-3 (Cook 34, Root 1)

    Those craving some Jos Buttler pyrotechnics will have to wait a little longer as Joe Root takes his place at number five in the batting order. He's off the mark with a single, while Alastair Cook scores a couple with a slightly lofted sweep through square.

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    Angry Man: I like how Cook is playing here, feeding strike for others to plunder.

    Vic Marks, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "He won't like getting out like that, he premeditated the shot but it was a little too full to sweep. But he got 23 off 21 balls, which is probably the pace they want. Root's had a quiet match, and it will be difficult for him. Jadeja should try to tie him down at the start."

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  170. 14:07: 
    WICKET- Bell b Jadeja 23 (Eng 106-3)
    Ian Bell is bowled

    Bowl there to Ian Bell! Ravindra Jadeja, firing the ball into the rough outside the right-hander's leg stump, bowls Bell round his pads to end a breezy and selfless 21-ball knock.


  171. 14:06: 
    Eng 106-2 (lead by 345 runs)

    Don't bowl there to Ian Bell! Pankaj Singh, perhaps under pressure to try and limit the scoring by bowling quite wide outside off stump, is clattered to the cover boundary before straightening his line and being lofted into the leg side for two. A single completes Bell's work for the over.

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    Andrew Jarvis: I don't believe that not following on is not so much about the bowlers needing a rest now. Rather the risk was if we'd enforced the follow-on, by the middle of this afternoon, we could have tiring bowlers against a strong Indian middle order. Now England can bat until mid-afternoon and let the bowlers have a real go for 40 overs and then have a night to recover before going hard again in the morning.

  173. 14:00: 
    Eng 99-2 (Cook 32, Bell 16)

    Tip and run. Tip and run. England milk Ravindra Jadeja into the gaps, but the left-arm spinner is posing problems with his ability to fire the ball into the rough outside Alastair Cook's off stump. Two from the over.

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    Simon Arnold: Cook should have considered the moaners and whiners when thinking about enforcing the follow-on. They are tired after a long, hot summer and this has led to the poor quality moaning and whining we are seeing. He should have enforced the follow-on so that they could have rested and come back fresher. They would have had their line and length perfect by the time India had made use of the better conditions of a day four pitch to bat England out of winning the game.

  175. 13:57: 
    Eng 97-2 (lead by 336 runs)

    World cricket has lost some legends in the last couple of years, hasn't it? Jacques Kallis, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, Ricky Ponting etc. So, who will be the next generation of greats? Virat Kohli? Joe Root? Steve Smith?!

    Pankaj Singh, who deserves a wicket for his efforts in this Test, beats Ian Bell with a couple of outswingers and almost makes the right-hander chop onto his own stumps with one which seams back in ever so slightly. Maiden over.

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    Dan, Knutsford, Cheshire: My haiku for a retiring great; Goodbye Jacques Kallis / As both batsman and bowler / You were a talis (man).

    Vic Marks, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's a relief for both Cook and Bell that they got those first innings runs. They would have been under the pump now, and under pressure for quick runs."

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  178. 13:52: 
    Eng 97-2 (Cook 31, Bell 15)
    Ian Bell

    Was Ian Bell born 'in form'? He never looks out of nick, does he? He's firing on all cylinders after lunch as he runs down the wicket and hammers Ravindra Jadeja back down the ground for four. A single each for Bell and Alastair Cook makes it six from the over.

    Vic Marks, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "It should be a sparky afternoon, England can't hang around too much and Bell must be alright to bat after the concerns about his thumb."

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  180. 13:48: 
    Eng 91-2 (lead by 330 runs)

    Ian Bell's bruised hand, sustained while fielding at slip yesterday, must not be too much of an issue as he joins his skipper at the crease. Perhaps he didn't fancy fielding all day? It's much better to be sat in the dressing room with an ice lolly in your (sore!) hand.

    Pankaj Singh, an absolute man mountain who you wouldn't want to be stuck behind in the lunchtime buffet queue, thunders in post-break and Alastair Cook gets things moving again with a single through the off side. Bell is off the mark too, with a trademark punt down to third man which brings two before he cracks back-to-back fours on both sides of the wicket.

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    Ed Hooley: Buttler coming in at four would have been adventurous.

  182. 13:40: 

    Interesting stuff from Rahul Dravid. Anyway, it's back to the cricket now - where Ian Bell has walked out alongside Alastair Cook for a post-lunch hit in the sunshine. Or something like that.

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    What did you think of between deliveries during your many long innings? Can you switch off?

    "I tried to - I'd be thinking about different things, your mind wanders. But my way of switching back on was to take a couple of breaths, focus on my breathing and then I was back in the zone. Even in the slips, you have to concentrate for every ball."

    Thanks for all of your questions to Rahul Dravid.

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    Are you a competitive character?

    "You need to have that inner steel about you to make things count. You need that to make big runs. In a positive way, when you saw VVS, Sachin or Sourav score runs, you'd think to yourself 'I need to be the person to score the runs and do well here'. When you think about the sacrifices your family have made for you to become a cricketer, you have to be selfish in one sense."

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    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    Did you enjoy being branded "The Wall"?

    "It didn't really bother me, some clever copywriter at a newspaper must have done it. I always felt that when I played badly, it would be 'The Wall comes down'!"

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid
    Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly, Rahul Dravid, VVS Laxman and Virender Sehwag

    Who did you enjoy batting with the most?

    "I spent a lot of time with Sachin Tendulkar, who was amazing to watch from the other end because he was a master craftsman. But I enjoyed batting with Virender Sehwag as well, as you stand and watch while he scores all the runs! People sometimes think Viru doesn't care about the game, but he cares deeply. He's always batted positively, that's what he does. And there was VVS Laxman, Sourav Ganguly - I enjoyed batting with all of them."

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  187. 13:31: 

    The news keeps coming in - Ravindra Jadeja has appealed against his fine for the incident involving James Anderson.

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    Would you have preferred to win a bilateral series against Pakistan or a World Cup?

    "I would have gone for the World Cup as I won a bilateral series against Pakistan but I was never part of a World Cup-winning side. Playing Pakistan is always big for us, as it is with England and Australia, the cricket was hard but it was never bitter or nasty between the two sides, we got along well. I enjoyed touring Pakistan - they're passionate about their cricket. 2004 was a fantastic tour, we got to get out and explore some of the country, but I went back in 2007 and I felt the security was a lot more heavy."

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    Why didn't Sachin Tendulkar succeed as a Test captain?

    "With a slightly better team, Tendulkar would have been a very good captain. We had a young side with me and Sourav Ganguly coming through, but he was unlucky that he didn't have the right kind of players."

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    Jacques Kallis's career statistics
    Jacques Kallis

    166 Tests: 13,289 runs (average 55.37), highest score 224, 45 hundreds, 58 fifties. 292 wickets (av 32.65), best bowling 6-54, five five-wicket hauls, 200 catches.

    328 ODIs: 11,579 runs (av 44.36), HS 139, 17 hundreds, 86 fifties, 273 wickets (av 31.79), BB 5-30, two five-wicket hauls, 131 catches.

    25 Twenty20 internationals: 666 runs (av 35.05), HS 73, 5 fifties, 12 wickets (av 27.75), BB 4-15

    Jacques Kallis: Cricket's least celebrated great?

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    What was your most memorable contribution in Test cricket?

    "When I look back, I think being a part of a team which changed the perception about India as poor travellers overseas. From 2000 to 2010, we were probably the second best team behind Australia overseas. A lot of this young generation of Indian players aren't as intimidated as we were, and to be someone who helped change that perception was a good thing."

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    Is it a good thing that India has so much power over international cricket?

    "India is a very important part of the world game. Greg Chappell told me that without India, cricket is only a minor game around the world. Six or seven other countries play it, and it's not the number one sport in any of those countries. Three big countries have taken on the responsibility of moving the game forward, which I think in some ways is a good thing. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating - we'll see in four or five years' time."

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    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    When are you taking up the role of coach of India?

    "The present coach is doing a very good job! I can't see myself becoming a full-time coach as you're away for 11 months of the year and it's too much for someone like me with a young family. I enjoy working with young players on a one-on-one basis."

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    What advice would you have against high-quality fast bowling like Mitchell Johnson?

    "Everyone has struggled against bowling like that, I'm no exception. The best way is to practice - get people bowling to you from 18 or 19 yards so you get used to the pace. It's not often a top bowler like that can get it right all the time. Nobody wants to get hurt, which does come into it - you start focusing on how you can protect yourself, particularly tail-enders. But if you can walk away after a testing spell like that, it's a fantastic feeling which gives you amazing confidence."

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    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special

    On Jacques Kallis:

    "He was a phenomenal cricketer, the impact he had cannot be measured in statistics, but they were impressive in themselves. He was the Garry Sobers of our generation. He's a quiet man, I spent three years with him at Royal Challengers Bangalore in the IPL, he was a lovely man but a quiet, introverted person. He did whatever needed to be done for his team."

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    On Jacques Kallis, who has retired from international cricket:

    "He's right up there - you talk about Wasim Akram, Sir Ian Botham, Sir Garry Sobers, he is right up there with them. He batted all his career in the top four, stood at second slip and bowled fast - he's had a great career. The international game will miss Jacques Kallis, he's been a fantastic cricketer, and a good man too."

    Rahul Dravid, Ex-India captain on Test Match Special#AskDravid

    Do you think India's stance towards the DRS will change?

    "I think India's concern is not with a decision like this [Ballance] but with the predictive part with the lbws. But if it does improve decision-making, it's worth going down that route. I'm not close enough to the Indian set-up, but I think they're warming to it."

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  198. 13:07:  
    BBC Radio Test Match Special

    So another great, Jacques Kallis, bows out of the game. The good news is that these legends of the game tend to stick around in the commentary box, where you will now find Rahul Dravid doing a Q&A on Test Match Special. Tune in now.

  199. 13:05: 
    Scorecard update

    England 80-2 (20.5 overs) - lead by 319 runs

    Batsman: Cook 29*

    Fall of wickets: 22-1 (Robson 13), 80-2 (Ballance 38)

    Bowling figures: Kumar 7-0-34-1, Pankaj 5-3-5-0, Shami 2-0-14-0, Sharma 3-0-17-0, Jadeja 2.5-0-9-1, Vijay 1-0-1-0.

    England 1st innings: 569-7 dec (Bell 167, Ballance 156)

    India 1st innings: 330 (Rahane 54, Dhoni 50, Anderson 5-53)


    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's spun sharp out of the rough but I think Gary Ballance missed it. It's gone straight off the front pad and into short leg. That's the best way for India to stop England scoring - take wickets, it will take a new batsman 20 minutes to get into his stride."

  201. 13:03: 

    South Africa all-rounder Jacques Kallis has retired from all international cricket.

  202. 13:01: 
    India walk off for lunch

    And with that, the players head off for lunch with England 319 runs in front. It all makes for an exciting afternoon session.

  203. 13:01: 
    WICKET- Ballance c Pujara b Jadeja 38 (Eng 80-2)
    Ravindra Jadeja celebrates the wicket of Gary Ballance

    Another shocker, and again it's Gary Ballance who is the poor recipient. With the ball turning extravagantly out of the rough, the left hander is adjudged to have gloved to Che Pujara at short leg despite replays showing he was nowhere near the ball. Oh dear, Marais Erasmus.


  204. 12:59: 
    Eng 80-1 (lead by 319)

    Rohit Sharma has resorted to firing the ball wide of off stump and Gary Ballance watches three balls go through to the keeper before chasing one and getting a top edge, which drops safely into the open spaces, for a single to backward point. Time for one more over before lunch.

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    Razzle1978: If we had a world class spinner at one end then maybe it would have been right to put India back in...but we don't.

    Andy Myers: Anyone for getting Trott back in the team to open the batting with Cook? Not sure about Robson at all, sadly.

  206. 12:56: 
    Eng 79-1 (Cook 29, Ballance 37)

    It's like the middle overs of a one-day international now - Alastair Cook rotating the strike and Gary Ballance pouncing on anything which is over-pitched and hammering Rohit Sharma to the cover boundary.

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    Andy Donley: This England batting line-up is shaping up very nicely. Ballance could well be a world class talent.

    Jay Smith: Even the harshest of critics must admit England have played a fantastic Test match so far.

  208. 12:54: 
    Eng 73-1 (lead by 312 runs)

    Gary Ballance appears to be the perfect foil for Alastair Cook in this situation as he pulls out the reverse sweep for four before taking the single which brings up the 50 partnership in 65 balls. Cook is pinned in front by one which wasn't going on to hit the stumps before tipping another single.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "History tells you that 400 does not often get chased down in Test cricket, you need the overs in the bank to get them out."

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  210. 12:51: 
    Eng 65-1 (Cook 27, Ballance 27)

    Do part-time spin bowlers lick their lips? If so, pass Moeen Ali a napkin in the dressing room because he'll be salivating at the prospect at bowling on this pitch, which is now showing considerable signs of turn and bounce. India are racing through their overs with the slow bowlers on, and Alastair Cook and Gary Ballance add a single apiece off Rohit Sharma.

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    Graham, Yorkshire: I'm all for batting the Indians out the game, letting the pitch wear and setting ultra attacking fields, BUT we need quick runs. We need to be bowling before tea.

    Ed, Surrey: Criticising Cook for batting again is as good as blaming him for England only having two truly good bowlers. Broad and Anderson have bowled a huge amount of overs in a very congested summer because no one else was getting the job done. As long as England start attacking with the bat soon it's good tactics from Cook in my opinion.

  213. 12:47: 
    Eng 65-1 (lead by 304)

    England's lead is now more than 300. How many will they want before they declare? Another 150?

    Ravindra Jadeja is brought into the attack to try and stem the flow of runs and he gets one to grip and turn into the pads of Gary Ballance, but the ball had to do too much. Another three singles added to that ever-increasing lead.

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    Nick, Portsmouth: Absolutely right to bat again. Put them out of the game, it will be a different mindset to following on and maybe thinking you still have a chance. Also, the bowlers need rest after yesterday's Herculean efforts.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "I'm looking at time in this match, and for England to get that 130 overs they would like to bowl, I think they would have to declare at something like 15:00. Dhoni will slow everything down. I would smash another 100 really quickly and get them out."

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  216. 12:44: 
    Eng 62-1 (Cook 24, Ballance 25)

    I'd not noticed them until the spinner came on, but suddenly there are footmarks outside the left-hander's off stump as part-time offie Rohit Sharma comes on to bowl. Not that Gary Ballance is too concerned as he takes a couple of steps and plants the bowler back over his head for six. Nine from another very good over for England.

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    Matthew Jones: With nothing but one ODIs for a while after this series, could Alex Hales make a claim to be the Test opener come the Ashes? Ideal for this kind of situation.

  218. 12:40: 
    Eng 53-1 (lead by 292)

    The runs are flowing as nicely as the lunchtime wine now - Alastair Cook middling one through midwicket and Gary Ballance offering up the maker's name to Mohammed Shami with another glorious straight drive.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "Whichever way they decided to go, I think England will end up winning this Test match. They have been a different class to India this week."

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  220. 12:36: 
    Eng 44-1 (Cook 18, Ballance 13)

    Again Alastair Cook checks to see if mid-off is awake with a quick single before Gary Ballance begins to up the run-rate - pushing two back past the bowler and then scoring back-to-back boundaries, one through square and the other straight down the ground. I'll say it again: this lad is a top, top player.

    Vic Marks, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
    England's Gary Ballance

    "Ballance is having a bit of trouble getting going, and he will know there is an urgency needed in England's innings."

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  222. 12:29: 
    Eng 33-1 (lead by 272)

    Alastair Cook is beginning to show some purpose, pulling out the dab to third man for four and then taking a brisk single to mid-off. Much better from the skipper.

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    Bob, Southampton: I hope England score slowly... I've got free tickets for tomorrow's play.

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    Rory in London: Re: Low attendance due to a Sunday start. The BCCI wants a five-Test series to make it seem as important as the Ashes. (Something I agree with - SA should be five Tests too. Like the Windies in the 80s). But they don't want to spend the time as it would eat into their ODIs cash-cow. So the BCCI's ego is more important to the ECB than the English cricketing public. Was it really worth selling cricket's world governance for a few extra dollars? Imagine if Fifa was run for the benefit of just one nation? Pathetic.

  225. 12:24: 
    Eng 28-1 (lead by 267)

    Bhuvneshwar Kumar continues with his nagging line and length, Alastair Cook taking a single to mid-on and Gary Ballance glancing a couple backward of square.

    Vic Marks, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "I'm feeling a bit for Pankaj Singh, who has beaten the bat quite a lot in both this and the first innings."

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  227. 12:20: 
    Scorecard update

    England 25-1 (10 overs) - lead by 264 runs

    Batsmen: Cook 11*, Ballance 1*

    Fall of wickets: 22-1 (Robson 13)

    Bowling figures: Kumar 5-0-20-1, Pankaj 5-3-5-0

    England 1st innings: 569-7 dec (Bell 167, Ballance 156)

    India 1st innings: 330 (Rahane 54, Dhoni 50, Anderson 5-53)


  228. 12:20: 
    Eng 25-1 (Cook 11, Ballance 1)

    I can identify with the buzz of getting an autograph from one of your heroes (see Stephan's entry below). Mike Atherton once gave a speech to our school cricket team and afterwards signed my cap. It's amazing the spring you can get in your step when you've got the England skipper's signature on your bonce. It's also amazing how deflated you can feel when your mother washes the said cap and the pen washes off! Another maiden over (Pankaj Singh to Gary Ballance).

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    Tom. Yorkshire: Unsure why Cook is still getting abuse, Great batting performance in the first innings, Good bowling decisions, Team in a VERY strong position, decided to bat to put the contest beyond India knowing fully how they can dig in and easily bat out a full day and more. England are on top and Cook can take pride in that, So should England supporters.

  230. 12:16: 
    Eng 25-1 (lead by 264)

    A little breeze ripples across Alastair Cook's shirt as he stands and waits for the ball to be delivered. Five dots as the England skipper fails to pierce the field, before he takes two through backward point.

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    Donners: Forget the Ashes, future series between England and India should be called "The Cinders", as not just the bails but the whole stumps should be burnt at a decision not to enforce the follow-on with almost two days left. At the theatre you go to watch a play, where you can know the ending before you arrive; cricket is sport where the outcome is uncertain.

    Howard Naylor: If England do not win this from here, Cook should be sacked. Absolutely pathetic decision.

    Ieuan Beynon: Treat is like a one-day game, get Buttler and Bell in before Ballance and score a quick 200-250, declare at tea and win the Test.

    Stephan Shemilt, BBC Sport at the Rose Bowl

    "I'm in the Colin Ingleby-Mackenzie Stand, sitting in front of two dads with their sons. As a figure in England training kit emerged, he's identified as Jos Buttler, with the boys scrambling for a pen and running down the steps to ask for an autograph. When Buttler obliges, the dads murmur their approval and the boys return with smiles wider than the Solent. Everyone can identify with the thrill of getting a signature from a hero. Having said that, Richie Benaud once turned me down."

  233. 12:10: 
    Eng 23-1 (Cook 9, Ballance 1)

    Television cameras pick up the sizzle of the Southampton heat at ground-level, while those in the crowd have a certain shine to them - the type of which only comes from the application of sun cream. The spectators should be treated to an interesting day's play as Pankaj Singh beats Gary Ballance's outside edge with a snorter. Maiden over.

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    Simao B: England haven't been in this winning position for some time. Need experienced heads to come together and show some bottle.

    Jon Vaughan: And that, dear Cook, is why you force the follow on!

    Pete Rapp: Unsure about Sam Robson. Nick Compton has been batting well for Somerset...

  235. 12:07: 
    Eng 23-1 (lead by 262)

    Vic Marks is right... England won't be upset to see the ball rearing up off a length and swinging through the air. They also won't mind Gary Ballance being at the crease - somebody who can certainly put his foot down as and when the moment requires. He's off the mark with a single into the covers.

    Vic Marks, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "In one sense it's encouraging, there is a little bit of life out there. A genuine edge, it carried very easily to slip at hip height, and there was a little bit of movement as well."

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  237. 12:02: 
    WICKET- Robson c Dhawan b Kumar 13 (Eng 22-1)
    India celebrate the wicket of Sam Robson

    Moments after caressing a beautiful four through the off side, Sam Robson is beaten by a jaffa from Bhuvneshwar Kumar - one which bounces sharply and leaves him ever so slightly - and Shikhar Dhawan does the rest at first slip.


  238. 12:00: 
    Eng 18-0 (Robson 9, Cook 9)
    Sam Robson

    After having a hit in the Rose Bowl nets, Jos Buttler stops to greet young supporters - and even poses for a selfie. Was that you? If so, send us your selfie with Buttler and we'll publish it!

    Out in the middle, Pankaj Singh bowls a tidy line and length, with Sam Robson scoring the only run - a single into the covers.

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    Mark, Kendal: If England had five top bowlers then the follow on would be a no-brainer, but Anderson and Broad need as much rest as they can get, as I can't see them getting much backup from the rest.

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    Jonathan Agnew and Rahul Dravid

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  241. 11:56: 
    Eng 17-0 (lead by 256)

    There are a few running repairs to the pitch between overs, which is still playing well: offering good carry and only minimal movement - with swing coming through the air to encourage the bowlers. Bhuvneshwar Kumar is hitting the top of off and, after swaying out of the way of a bouncer, Sam Robson gets on the back foot and punches a single into the covers. Alastair Cook looks relaxed at the crease too as he whips a couple into the leg side.

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    Richard Booth: Well done England. No need to enforce the follow on, they should grind the Indians down, don't let them get any momentum. The great Aussie team of the 90s would do the same, grind the opposition down.

    Will, Ross on Wye: Putting on a quick fire 150-200 for the loss of only one or two would be soul-destroying for the Indians. Declare shortly after lunch and have four and a half sessions to knock them over.

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    Jon: Happy Birthday James Anderson. Hard work done now sit back and relax (until tea).

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  244. 11:50: 
    Eng 14-0 (Robson 7, Cook 7)

    It's situations like this where Australia really ground England into the dirt last winter - when David Warner would stroll out and smash the tired bowling attack everywhere. In the first three Ashes Tests down under, he scored 124, 83 not out and 112 in the second innings. And all at a good lick. Can England do something similar?

    Just four from Pankaj Singh's latest over as Alastair Cook squirts one through gully to the boundary.

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    James Dundon: Disappointing to see people criticise Cookie for not enforcing the follow-on. Jimmy Anderson has bowled too many overs this summer and is in need of a rest contrary to the five wickets he took in the first innings. Stuart Broad is struggling with his knee and it will do the team no favours if they are stuck out on the field for three days! One night's sleep is not enough for seam bowlers. Well done Alastair Cook. Treat the second innings like a one-day game and have India in after tea.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Dhoni has to get wickets, he can only slow the run rate by taking wickets. You are not going to stop England scoring, Cook might play even better because he's more relaxed."

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  247. 11:45: 
    Eng 10-0 (lead by 249 runs)

    I suspect - and I might be wrong - that England will bat properly until midway into the afternoon session when they might unleash the likes of Jos Buttler on the poor Indian bowling. Then, they'll hope to get a couple of wickets before the close of play this evening.

    Anyway, there's a certain technical correctness about both Sam Robson and Alastair Cook early on as they help themselves to three runs each through the leg side.

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    Howard Russell: England have consistently shown they struggle to take 10 wickets. To not enforce a follow-on and heap extra pressure on the bowlers to take those 10 wickets is madness. Make India follow on and bat your way to victory.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "As a batsman I would not be unhappy to be having another bat, from a singular rather than team point of view I'd be thinking I'd definitely be wanting another three hours on this!"

  250. 11:39: 
    Eng 4-0 (Robson 4, Cook 0)

    Standing tall, even proud, at the crease, Alastair Cook looks a different batsman now as he gets forward and firmly defends the ball back to Pankaj Singh while watching the harmless ones fly by to the keeper. Maiden over.

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    Fenners: Eng must bat again, no follow on. Get Cook some more runs with no pressure, & give bowlers rest. Then bowl 'em out in four sessions.

    Stephen Wilson: Why are we batting again? It is a cowardly decision by Cook.

    Edward Poole: England need to adapt to the situation. Promote Buttler up the order and treat it as a shorter format.

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    Pete, Bristol: Anyone surprised that England haven't enforced the follow-on should remember what their template for success has been. They win by bowling teams out not by chasing totals.

  253. 11:35: 
    Eng 4-0 (lead by 243 runs)

    Sam Robson, crouching in his crease and purposefully watching the ball sail over his off stump, takes first guard to Bhuvneshwar Kumar. He and Alastair Cook tend to mix first strike up - and Robson is grateful as he smashes a loosener through point for four.

    Stephan Shemilt, BBC Sport at the Rose Bowl
    The Rose Bowl

    "Southampton on a Wednesday morning, perfect for cricket. Warm sun, coolish breeze, smell of sunscreen. The only shame? The empty seats, undoubtedly linked to the fact this game started on a Sunday. The size of the crowd is more like what you might see at a busy Championship match."

  255. 11:30: 

    Alastair Cook can at least walk to the middle without having witnessed India's tail-enders smack his side all round the ground. Maybe a sign of England's intentions is the sight of Jos Buttler heading to the nets for some practice?

    Phil Tufnell, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "I don't want them to just push it around, they have to go out at three to four runs an over. They should be bowling again by tea."

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    Andy: Why would you NOT enforce a follow-on when you have only used 20 mins of a day? To win a Test you have to get 20 wickets and presumably the best opportunity of getting wickets is when your bowlers are at their freshest - surely that is the case after only 20 mins of a day? Confused.

    Michael, Huddersfield: England will bat again - why? Anderson's getting the ball to move, we've got 239 on them, the bowlers are fresh after a night's rest, negative tactics from Team England.

  258. 11:26: 
    Scorecard update

    India 330 (106.1 overs) - trail by 239 runs

    Batsman: Pankaj 1*

    Fall of wickets: 17-1 (Dhawan 6), 56-2 (Pujara 24), 88-3 (Vijay 35), 136-4 (Kohli 39), 210-5 (Sharma 28), 217-6 (Rahane 54), 275-7 (Jadeja 31), 313-8 (Kumar 19), 329-9 (Dhoni 50), 330-10 (Shami 5)

    Bowling figures: Anderson 26.1-10-53-5, Broad 25-7-66-3, Jordan 17-4-59-0, Woakes 20-8-60-0, Moeen 18-0-62-2.

    England 1st innings: 569-7 dec (Bell 167, Ballance 156)


    Phil Tufnell, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "Judging by the way Sam Robson has run off I think they will be batting again without a doubt. Another great delivery from Jimmy Anderson, another five-fer and on a pitch like this he will think that is one of the best five-fers in a long time."

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  260. 11:21: 

    Easy as you like, England blow through the India tail. Will they enforce the follow on? I'm afraid not, as Alastair Cook signals that he'll bat again.

  261. 11:21: 
    WICKET- Shami c Buttler b Anderson 5 (Ind 330 all out)
    Pankaj Singh and Mohammed Shami

    A much-deserved five-wicket haul for James Anderson on his 32nd birthday, and another India batsman falls to the short ball as Mohammed Shami gloves a bouncer to Jos Buttler behind the stumps.


  262. 11:19: 
    Ind 330-9 (Shami 5, Pankaj 1)

    Pankaj Singh is very much in the Phil Tufnell/Devon Malcolm mould of tail-enders - backing away from the fast bowler and nowhere near good enough to get his edge close enough to the full, fast one which nips away. When he does manage to make contact with a Stuart Broad delivery, he smashes it straight to the cover fielder.

    Stephan Shemilt, BBC Sport at the Rose Bowl

    "Pankaj Singh has three first-class half-centuries. How?"

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    With Broad and Anderson having taken 500 wickets in Tests they have played together, we're asking who do you think are the great new-ball partnerships?

    England's Steve Harmison and Matthew Hoggard 2005

    Callum Steel: Harmison and Hoggard were ideal. Contrasting and complimenting styles and, when both on song, very effective.

  265. 11:15: 
    Ind 330-9 (trail by 239)

    Pankaj Singh looks like a real number 11 - there's not enough of them about these days - as he backs away from James Anderson and eventually gets a single which takes him to the sanctuary of the non-striker's end. He won't last long*.

    * I hope those aren't famous last words!

    Phil Tufnell, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "That was a great delivery, and he's used it a bit on this pitch, the in-swinging bouncer. It followed Dhoni, cramped him up, hit the gloves and dollied up. A great start, the end is in sight."

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  267. 11:11: 
    WICKET- Dhoni c Buttler b Anderson 50 (Ind 329-9)
    James Anderson celebrates after dismisisng Mahendra Dhoni

    There will be no fireworks from MS Dhoni this morning - the India skipper's innings fizzling out when he goes after a well-directed short ball from James Anderson and ends up getting a top edge to Jos Buttler behind the stumps.


  268. 11:11: 
    Ind 329-8

    Stuart Broad, who was overlooked for Chris Woakes to open the bowling yesterday morning, partners James Anderson this morning and bowls a tidy over first up, save for four byes from a short ball.

    Phil Tufnell, Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "These first two wickets are absolutely crucial, if England get them then everything falls into place. Then it's up to the hierarchy - I'd get them in again and knock them over."

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  270. 11:04: 
    Ind 323-8 (Dhoni 50, Shami 4)

    James Anderson gets us under way with a maiden over to MS Dhoni, who already looks as though he's prepared to swing the bat this morning after a wild play and miss outside off stump. Credit to Jos Buttler too, who stops a wayward delivery down the leg side running away for four byes. He's looked good behind the timbers.

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    Blonde Bear: As much as the Sunday start means nobody can actually go to the Test, Mon-Thurs of TMS is vastly improving my work week.

    Dilip Singh: All hope of miracle from India rests on shoulders of Shami & Pankaj Singh with bat & ball!

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "Don't spread the field to Dhoni for the first three or four overs. Make him play, get him out. Days four and five are when you win a Test match - and when you judge the captain."

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  273. 10:59: 

    MS Dhoni walks to the middle with a real sense of purpose, flanked by a smiling, relaxed Mohammed Shami. A punch of the gloves while England's fielders take up their positions and it's time to play.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Somebody very famous, that knows athletics well and knows about running, has said to me that Chris Jordan will get an injury in the next 12 months if he does not do something about his action. I told the coach who it was who said it, so it is up to them to do something about it because the lad's got talent. He needs a smoother, more effective run-up so he explodes at the crease. It's no good just prancing up and then everything's on the last two steps, you are going to hurt yourself."

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    Steve Harmison, Ex-England pace bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "The biggest fault Chris Jordan had yesterday was that after being dropped for Ben Stokes, he's just trying a little bit too hard as he must think he has to perform to play at Old Trafford."

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  276. 10:54: 

    Perhaps one England bowler who was below-par yesterday was Chris Jordan, who conceded 59 runs in 17 wicketless overs - struggling with his rhythm and spraying the ball all over the place. England will need Jordan to be back to his best today, especially if they enforce the follow on.

    Text 81111

    Mark, Plymouth: I suspect India's tail will make the follow-on question irrelevant and that England will have to bat anyway.

    Bryan: Assuming we mop up these last two for less than 47, I would put myself in Indian shoes and ask myself if I'd rather spend today batting or in the field. I reckon India would feel that having a bowl would offer them a better chance of revival, so I would enforce the follow-on.

    Stephan Shemilt, BBC Sport at the Rose Bowl

    "Day four and our two teams have had enough of cricket. India prefer a game of football, England touch rugby. Ravichandran Ashwin has a right foot with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer, while Alastair Cook looks slippery running in front on the line. Hot again in Southampton, with the mercury perhaps not quite as high as yesterday - there's a few more fluffy clouds in the sky. Considering the Sunday start, the crowd has been good throughout, but a steady decline in numbers is continuing."

  279. 10:49: 
    Vintage Anderson

    James Anderson was certainly back to his best on the third day of this match as he put in a masterful display of swing bowling - his best of the season, according to Test Match Special's Jonathan Agnew.

    "In the second Test defeat at Lord's, Anderson was well below his best, perhaps distracted by the business with Ravindra Jadeja," wrote Agnew in his column for BBC Sport.

    "Here, he is still eschewing the urge to talk to the batsmen, but he has looked like the old Anderson, pitching the ball up and swinging it both ways for his 3-52. His accuracy accounted for Virat Kohli and it must have been sweet to trap Jadeja lbw late in the day."

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    James Anderson & Stuart Broad

    In fact, following yesterday's fine bowling effort, James Anderson and Stuart Broad have now taken a combined 500 wickets when bowling together. They are only the third opening partnership in history to achieve that feat, behind Walsh and Ambrose and Wasim and Waqar. My question today is simple: are Anderson and Broad one of the great new-ball partnerships? If not, who gets your vote?

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  281. 10:43: 

    It's certainly been a fantastic three days for England in Southampton, good enough in fact for some to suggest Liverpool Football Club might want to sign a few of their players. Joking aside though, it must be a relief for skipper Alastair Cook to have runs under his belt, a big total on the board and fast bowlers which are finally firing.

    England took eight wickets yesterday, on a pitch which is still decent enough to bat on, as Stuart Broad and James Anderson took their innings tally to three apiece.

    "Before this Test we had a really good sit-down to get clarity on what we are trying to do," Broad told BBC Sport. "We are making sure we are trying to hit the top of off as many times as we can, with an aggressive bumper thrown in. We did that today."

  282. 10:39: 
    Weather forecast

    BBC Weather's Simon King: "Another glorious day today, there's a bit more cloud than yesterday so it won't be as warm, and the breeze will pick up. Tomorrow, we'll see a bit of a change - much cloudier and cooler, and the temperature down by about five degrees."

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    Steve Harmison, Ex-England pace bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "I would take the other view. They would face having to be in the field for another two days, Broad and Anderson might have to bowl 50 overs. I would go and bat for 40-45 overs, which would still leave you about 135 overs to bowl them out. And if you can't bowl a team out in 135 overs, you don't deserve to win a Test match. We've just had this argument with Stuart Broad, he wouldn't have any of Michael's view."

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    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "I would enforce the follow-on, and hopefully win the game today. As a batting unit, on a wicket like this, you might have to force a wicket therefore making India bat again just over 200 behind might make them take a few chances because they'll fancy their chances of overtaking England and making them bat again."

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  286. 10:34: 

    The maths are simple, the opinion is split. India will resume on 323-8, replying to England's 569-7 declared. MS Dhoni is at the crease on 50 not out, knowing his side need another 47 runs to avoid the follow on this morning. But would and should England enforce it? You might not be surprised to hear that opinion is split in the TMS box - the ex-batsman would make India bat again. The ex-fast bowler? He'd want to put his feet up for 40 or 50 overs.

  287. 10:30: 
    To follow on or not to follow on
    England cricket team

    "Are we going to make them follow on today, skip?"

    It was surely the talk over tea and toast in the England team hotel this morning, and Alastair Cook's final decision on the matter could define the rest of this summer's series against India. Perhaps even his captaincy.

    Do England make India bat again on the fourth day, or do they try and add to their already imposing lead over the tourists and hope they leave themselves with enough time to take 10 crucial wickets which will finally get English cricket smiling again? Let's find out.

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Live Scores - England v India


  • England beat India by 266 runs
  • England: 569-7 & 205-4 (40.4 overs)
  • India: 330 & 178 (66.4 overs)
  • Venue: Southampton

India 2nd Innings

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Vijay run out (Broad) 12
Dhawan c Jordan b Root 37
Pujara c Jordan b Moeen 2
Kohli c Buttler b Moeen 28
Rahane not out 52
Ro Sharma c Buttler b Anderson 6
Dhoni c Buttler b Anderson 6
Jadeja b Moeen 15
B Kumar c Anderson b Moeen 0
Shami b Moeen 0
Singh b Moeen 9
Extras 1w 4b 6lb 11
Total all out 178

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