Ashes: Australia v England, third Test, day three as it happened

How the action unfolded on day three of the third Ashes Test as Australia push their overall lead to 369.

15 December 2013 Last updated at 02:00

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  1. 1017: 

    On Boycott's cheery note, it's time for me to sign off. We'll dust ourselves down and go again in the early hours of tomorrow morning. Until then, goodbye.

  2. 1016: 

    BBC Sport brings you all the news and analysis from the third Test throughout the day. BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew and chief sports writer Tom Fordyce are in Perth, while you can see everything you've missed at-a-glance with our Ashes catch-up.

    In addition, you can hear the Pint-sized Ashes two-minute round-up, as well as the thoughts of Aggers and Boycott in the TMS podcast.

  3. 1016: 

    Don't forget that BBC Radio 5 live sports extra will replay the entire day's play from 1100 GMT, and will play highlights from the close of play until then. And each morning, BBC Radio 5 live brings all the best analysis and reaction on Ashes Breakfast from 0600 GMT. You can hear both 5 live and 5 live sports extra on digital radio, online, and via the BBC iPlayer Radio app and BBC Sport app.

  4. 1015: 
    Chris Rogers

    Australia batsman Chris Rogers: "There's a long way to go. We'll bat for a while tomorrow, maybe until after lunch, then attack England hard.

    "The cracks are widening, so it's going to be hard to bat in the second innings for England. I haven't seen cracks like this at the Waca for a while.

    "If you'd have asked 'what is the ultimate day to have?' we'd have been in this position.

    "After the tour of England, a lot of us were hurting, so to come back and win 3-0 would be amazing."

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "I'm dejected today. There was just nothing there to lift the spirits of the supporters. The wheels are coming off, sadly. I never believed it but now I can feel it, it's a 5-0 drubbing coming. I will never say people aren't trying. I know they are. I have been there, I know what it's like. But it's not there. Their brains are scrambled.

    "Kevin Pietersen was like a cow grazing in the meadow today on the boundary. We got ourselves in this mess. Now they will have to go through the motions but I don't hold out any hope for us saving a game."

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "That was one of worst days I've seen England play in a while. They had six wickets in hand, one of the best players in the world in Ian Bell at the crease, flat pitch, sunny day, with Prior to come, people were expecting them to put up a show but they were blown away in no time.

    "Then, when you come out so far behind you are looking for a bit of effort from the bowlers, a bit of pride and a bit of credibility. But no. Instead we got a massive opening stand and it was far too easy for their batsmen."

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    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "For the third match in a row, Australia have had no pressure whatsoever in the second innings. Rogers and Warner might as well have gone out with flip-flops and cigars. This has been a dreadful, dreadful day for English cricket. It is never easy when you are watching a team that has this much talent play to this standard. They are frazzled. Matt Prior is a pivotal member of this team but you can tell that his poor batting is affecting his keeping now. The dressing-room now will be the worst place in the world."

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  8. 1005: 

    So what did the Test Match Special lads think about that. Michael Vaughan says Geoffrey Boycott was marking out his run in Perth town centre ahead of his podcast chat with Jonathan Agnew...

  9. 1003: 

    England were deflated by another batting collapse and David Warner took advantage - flaying the tourists' bowling attack all over the Waca on his way to 112 from 140 balls. Chris Rogers also scored a half-century and Shane Watson is 29 not out as the Aussies closed on 235-3 for a lead of 369 runs.

  10. 1002: 

    A stinker of a day for England then. They started the day on 180-4, with moderate hopes of getting close to Australia's 385 all out. It panned out much differently as they lost six wickets for 71 runs - Ryan Harris and Peter Siddle helping themselves to three wickets each as England were bundled out for 251.

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    Jordan France: Ashes have gone, time to rebuild. Time for Ballance, Robson and Mills.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "I think Australia will want to take England out there for another session. They will want to wear down Cook and Carberry a bit more and open up those cracks a bit more."

  13. 0959: 
    Aus 235-3 (Watson 29*, Smith 5*)

    One last chug from the Burnley Express as we enter the final over of the day. There's plenty of steam coming out of James Anderson's ears as he comes to terms with England's derailment. He finishes with a maiden and the players head off after another chastening day for the tourists. Australia close day three 369 runs ahead of Alastair Cook's men.

    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "That would never have been reviewed without this bonkers thing about getting your reviews back after 80 overs. It pitched about three inches outside leg stump."

  15. 0955: 

    There's a few giggles in the field as replays showed the review to be rather optimistic and Shane Watson lives to fight another ball. Australia finish the over on 235-3, a lead of 369 runs.

  16. 0954: 

    England call for a review when Joe Root gets one to grip and hit Shane Watson on the pads.

  17. 0951: 
    Aus 233-3 (Watson 27*, Smith 5*)

    Graeme Swann's back on the pitch, so hopefully that niggle is not as bad as we perhaps first feared. His old mate Jimmy Anderson cranks his weary body up for one last push and he looks as happy as a turkey at Christmas when Steve Smith tickles him for four leg byes.


    Rich Morris, TMS inbox: England may have been trounced in this series but let's look ahead. In two years Australia will come back to England and will almost certainly be without Rogers, Haddin and Harris. Clarke and Johnson (if his body holds up) will be 34. Yes, England have some more aged players but some very important players will be in their prime.

  19. 0947: 
    Aus 229-3 (Lead by 363)

    Just three overs remaining in the day after Joe Root whittles through another set of six - being milked for four more runs.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
    England win the Ashes in 2011

    "I remember being on the pitch after the 2010-11 Ashes. There were a lot of the ECB hierarchy on the pitch, talking about how the Schofield Report after the 5-0 in 2006-07 had changed everything, and how that would never happen again... But it will be 5-0 here unless something drastically changes. Australia can smell blood, they're not going to let up. Australia aren't going to rest Johnson, Harris and Siddle because the Ashes are won - they'll want to humiliate you.

    "Australia will remember what's been said about them in the last three series - I remembered every word the likes of Hayden and co had said to me in 2002-03 when we lost 4-1, and it was payback time when Hayden and Langer came out to bat in 2005. You say things when you're on top and winning, but things can change very quickly."

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  21. 0944: 
    Aus 225-3 (Watson 26*, Smith 2*)

    Ben Stokes is really getting the ball to talk at the moment - nipping another one back to beat Steve Smith and miss the off stick by millimetres. If he can get his batting in decent shape, England have found a genuine all-rounder here. Kevin Pietersen obviously agrees, as he races over and gives the Durham youngster a tap on the back for his admirable efforts.

  22. 0941: 

    BBC Sport brings you all the news and analysis from the third Test throughout the day. BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew and chief sports writer Tom Fordyce are in Perth, while you can see everything you've missed at-a-glance with our Ashes catch-up.

    In addition, you can hear the Pint-sized Ashes two-minute round-up, as well as the thoughts of Aggers and Boycott in the TMS podcast.

  23. 0941: 
    Aus 225-3 (Lead by 359)

    There's three close catchers in for Shane Watson as the Australian number three remains stuck in the tentative twenties. Joe Root is doing a hop, skip and a dance after each delivery - but it's Watson who is making it look harder than it should be. He's not exactly playing Muralitharan on a raging turner.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "After day three at the Gabba England were 537 runs behind, in Adelaide they were 530 behind. On this occasion it will only be about 370, so there are positives there."

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  25. 0937: 
    Aus 224-3 (Lead by 358)

    It doesn't get any easier for England as first-innings centurion Steve Smith skips to the crease and gets off the mark with a single into the leg side.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "I think Stokes is one of the positives to come out of the tour so far. He is a bit raw but has a huge amount of talent. I think he will be around for many many years and you just hope that the impact of being on a tour like this doesn't do too much damage."

  27. 0934: 
    WICKET- Clarke b Stokes 23 (Aus 223-3)
    Ben Stokes

    A reward for his toil as Ben Stokes bowls a jaffa to Michael Clarke - getting one to nip back and rearrange the Australian skipper's timbers. An excellent delivery.

    Fall of wickets: 1-157 (Rogers 54), 2-183 (Warner 112), 3-223 (Clarke 23)

    Stokes's figures: 12.5-0-64-1


    Full match scorecard

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    Laurence Nutt: The negativity of some fans is ridiculous. We may lose this series but we have had 7yrs of dominance and will be back.

  29. 0932: 
    Aus 219-2 (Watson 25*, Clarke 20*)

    The Australians are booked in for bed and breakfast now - Michael Clarke slapping Joe Root back over his head for four as another seven runs are added to that mammoth lead.


    Jack Wieland: The lack of loyalty shown by England fans towards a group of players who made us the best side in the world simply bemuses me. One poor tour and the whole team needs to be replaced - show some loyalty!

  31. 0929: 
    Aus 212-2 (Lead by 346)

    It's funny how nobody mentions the reported rift between Shane Watson and Michael Clarke these days. The pair look like two old drinking buddies when chatting together in the slips or in the middle between overs. They've got the England bowlers in a headlock at the moment - squeezing another five runs out of Ben Stokes.

    Bowling figures: Anderson 11-3-38-0, Bresnan 12-3-49-1, Stokes 12-0-60-0, Swann 23-7-51-1, Root 4-1-6-0.


    David in Cheltenham, TMS inbox: Let's not forget during this all too predictable game that they were 143-5. We were 143-3. But yet again Australia get a big lead and then come back on to show us it's a batting pitch. When you're just waiting for a team to declare you've already given up (for the third consecutive Test).

  33. 0924: 
    Aus 207-2 (Watson 24*, Clarke 9*)

    Worrying news for England as another of their beleaguered bowlers, Graeme Swann, heads off the field. The off-spinner appeared to pull up holding his hamstring in the field and is chaperoned off the field by Monty. Spinners' union. Joe Root is England's number one spinner for now and he's doing a decent holding job without looking like a genuine wicket-taking threat. One from the over.


    Opta Jim: Australians have hit the last eight Ashes centuries - 14 of the preceding 17 were hit by English batsmen. Shift.

  35. 0921: 
    Aus 206-2 (Lead by 340)
    Shane Watson

    Ben Stokes is perhaps the only England player to emerge from this match with his reputation enhanced. The young Durham all-rounder has been quicker than James Anderson and Tim Bresnan and done his best to hit the top of off. He's still running in hard for his country and getting good shape into Shane Watson. Six from the over advances the Australia lead ever more.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "England are great front-runners, but when it is not happening they sit back and wait for something to happen.

    "They have to change something in the last two Tests. The last thing they want to do is come here as favourites and lose 5-0."

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    Andrew in Manchester: After Lord's last summer the English fans and media were declaring how much an Australia win in the next Test would be good for the series. Do you think the Aussies are saying the same now? I doubt it.

  38. 0912: 
    DRINKS BREAK- Aus 200-2 (Watson 19*, Clarke 3*)

    Just waking up? Lucky you. To briefly recap, England lost their last six wickets for 71 runs in the morning session as they were bowled out for 251. In reply, Australia have bolstered their superiority thanks to a scintillating century from David Warner. Michael Clarke hasn't quite got his hands on the Ashes urn, but his fingers are beginning to wrap around it. To underline the point, the skipper slaps James Anderson to the third man boundary. Drinks.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "England are well behind the eight-ball here, but I'm not sure what they can do to turn it around. If they can somehow get a miracle draw out of this, that would be a huge lift for them."

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  40. 0907: 
    Aus 195-2 (Lead by 329)

    At least there is still some imagination about England's play - Alastair Cook employing a leg slip as he tries to strangle Michael Clarke down the leg side. Joe Root is bowling to his field as he races through another maiden over. England can't wait for the dressing-room and their garlic prawns now.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Swann has bowled well but this is the job you wanted him to do in the first two Tests. He is keeping it tight now but the game has gone. It's like when you're losing at chess and you are just moving your pieces around waiting to be checkmate."

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  42. 0904: 
    Aus 195-2 (Watson 18*, Clarke 3*)

    Arsenal supporter James Anderson looks like he has just been told yesterday's score from the Etihad Stadium. He continues to toil away manfully though, wiping sweat from his brow after each delivery. Another maiden.

  43. 0900: 
    Aus 195-2 (Lead by 329)

    It's not just England players who have been roasted today. There's a few travelling spectators looking a little pink as the evening sunshine casts lengthy shadows across the ground. Joe Root is given a chuck and goes around the wicket to the two right-handers, being milked for four singles.

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    BBC Sport's Jon Barbuti: Australia have the top six batting averages and four best bowling averages in the current Ashes series. Dominant.

  45. 0857: 
    Aus 191-2 (Watson 16*, Clarke 1*)

    James Anderson is back into the attack. Where has he been all afternoon? Even Ben Stokes has bowled more overs. Maybe Alastair Cook had a 'Manuel Pellegrini moment' and forgot all about the Burnley Express. Up on the Australian balcony, David Warner is sat smirking to himself. Who can blame him? England's misery goes on when Shane Watson tucks into Anderson and helps himself to a boundary.

  46. 0851: 
    Aus 187-2 (Lead by 321)

    The Waca outfield is remarkably lush considering the unrelenting sunshine which has been beating down for the last few days. Or maybe the grass just looks greener in Australia at the moment? Tim Bresnan is bowling a gallant spell, however, as he mixes up outswingers with the odd one which hits the cracks and nips back in. Just one from the over.

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    Dave: English cricket has died. The body is currently being cremated in Perth and the ashes shall be handed over to Australia. This is their '2005' moment.

  48. 0847: 
    Aus 186-2 (Watson 11*, Clarke 1*)

    Nothing seems to be going right for England now - Shane Watson trying to turn Graeme Swann around the corner and almost being caught by Ian Bell at backward short leg. He takes a single before Michael Clarke shows some nimble footwork to advance down the track and get off the mark with one down the ground. Three from the over.

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    Mister Fell: If I were an Aussie news editor I'd now be compiling the pre-series predictions of the English press & so called experts.

  50. 0843: 
    Aus 183-2 (Lead by 317)

    Captain Cook stands with his hands on his hips in the slip cordon. It's momentarily left to KP to lift the spirits as he claps his hands and offers words of encouragement. Tim Bresnan continues to bowl a disciplined line and length - he's certainly benefitted from some overs in his legs in the first innings. Another maiden.

  51. 0839: 
    Aus 183-2 (Watson 9*, Clarke 0*)
    Graeme Swann

    Graeme Swann continues to offer the smallest of positives with some controlled off-spin bowling, the like of which England have been craving for the entire tour. He keeps Michael Clarke in check with another maiden - his seventh of the afternoon.

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    Dave in Teignmouth: I'm 34 and have lived to see some pretty bad times for England cricket. But Atherton and Stewart in the 90s had grit and fire and pulled the team together. This lot look like a ring-rusty old-timer on his umpteenth comeback being beaten to the canvas time and again and it makes me feel a little embarrassed to be an England supporter right now!

  53. 0836: 
    Aus 183-2 (Lead by 317)

    Can England winkle a few more out before the close? We've got 21 overs to go as Tim Bresnan muscles to the crease, trying to tempt Michael Clarke with some tasty offerings outside off stump. David Warner might have gorged himself on those but Pup is a bit more circumspect. Maiden over.

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    David J Chapman: Watching David Warner is like watching a young KP, circa 2005. Carefree, aggressive and scintillating to watch.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "If Warner is going to get out it will be in this fashion. He is trying to hit it into the stands. But what and innings and what form he is in. If you get on form on these sort of surfaces, you can really tuck in.

    "Australia are absolutely hammering England and there are no real positives I can find."

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  56. 0830: 
    WICKET- Warner c Stokes b Swann 112 (Aus 183-2)
    David Warner

    The New South Wales butcher falls on his cleaver. Three balls after depositing Graeme Swann into the stands, David Warner goes for one big shot too many and Ben Stokes safely pouches a skier at mid-on.

    Fall of wickets: 1-157 (Rogers 54), 2-183 (Warner 112)

    Swann's figures: 20.5-6-48-1

    Full match scorecard


    Bruce: The last time I felt this demoralised was at the end of the first day of the fifth Ashes Test in 1989, when England didn't take a single wicket.

  58. 0826: 

    Thanks Sam. Are we still batting? Oh dear... it's not going too well is it?

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    No1Influencer: Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, England look like they have turned to rust.

  60. 0825: 

    Drinks break. There are unconfirmed rumours that they've slipped a bit of brandy into Alastair Cook's. I might have a swift one myself. To take you to the close, here's Marc Higginson.

  61. 0823: 
    Aus 177-1 (Warner 106, Watson 9)

    Bresnan bowls round the wicket to Warner who stands up and blazes him through extra cover for four. With no swing and very little seam movement, England's attack looks horribly toothless. James Anderson, by the way, has bowled fewer overs than Bresnan, Stokes or Swann. Is he injured too, or just hiding? I wouldn't blame him!

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "Australia started to get back on track in the third Test at Old Trafford in the English summer and that coincided with David Warner's return. He almost epitomises what Australian cricket is about - he's an Aussie mongrel of a character and his game is good. He has come through Twenty20 cricket and produced it at Test level too."

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  63. 0819: 
    DAVID WARNER 100- Aus 171-1
    David Warner celebrates his century

    Warner cuts Swann away for four runs to bring up his second hundred of the series. It's an ecstatic celebration from the left-handed opener as he rips off his helmet, leaps and punches the air with the same fists that got him into so much trouble back at the start of Australia's tour of England. Imagine if that Root incident had never happened and he'd started the summer Ashes in this sort of form...

    Warner's stats: 127 balls, 16 fours, one six. Fifth Test hundred, second against England, second at Perth.

  64. 0816: 
    Aus 167-1 (Lead by 301)

    One more to Warner takes him to 97. Then a short, wide ball is slashed to the fence by Watson to get him off the mark. The last ball of the over sits up and asked to be whacked and Watson picks up four more.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "This is as well as I've seen Graeme Swann bowl for a long time. He's got good pace and dip and has seen two stumping chances go missing. It's the first time I've seen Matt Prior's wicketkeeping seemingly affected by his form with the bat."

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    Tom Fordyce, Chief sports writer at the Waca

    On Twitter: "Rogers goes for 54 with lead 291. It's like standing in the street watching your house burn down and finding 20p in your dressing-gown pocket."

  67. 0812: 
    Aus 158-1 (Warner 96, Watson 0)

    Warner has abandoned risk lately as he edges towards his ton. Swann's tidy spell continues as he keeps Watson honest.

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    Ben Archibald: No-one does 90s nostalgia like the England cricket team.

  69. 0806: 
    APPEAL - NOT OUT- Aus 157-1

    Stuart Broad foot latest. He won't field for the rest of the day and an update is expected tomorrow morning.

    Watson gets a leading edge to his first ball but the ball lands short of mid-on. Then a huge appeal as Bresnan beats the bat. This looks very, very close, but Cook opts not to review. Too high, methinks.

    Henry Blofeld, BBC Test Match Special

    "England have finally found an oasis but there is very little water in it. Chris Rogers played well, he just gave David Warner his head and he got a fine ovation walking off."

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  71. 0804: 
    WICKET- Rogers c Carberry b Bresnan 54 (Aus 157-1)

    A breakthrough at last. Rogers seems surprised by Bresnan's lack of pace and cuts him airily to Michael Carberry, who dives forward to take the catch at backward point.

    Bresnan's figures: 6.1-0-33-1


    Full match scorecard

  72. 0803: 
    APPEAL - NOT OUT- Aus 157-0

    Swann is at least offering England some control at the moment. He has only conceded 15 runs off his last 13 overs. A half-hearted appeal is turned down by Billy Bowden because Rogers is a long, long way forward.

    Joe Wilson, BBC Sport at the Waca

    On Twitter: This Test is going so well perhaps even Chris Rogers might stop worrying that the next match will be his last...

  74. 0759: 
    OUCH!- Aus 156-0 (Warner 95, Rogers 53)

    Rogers wears one from Stokes in the rib cage then runs off with his eyes closed towards point like a man who has just trod on a drawing pin. A single gets him off strike, then Warner pulls a ball from right in front of his eyes for his 15th four.

  75. 0757: 
    Aus 151-0

    Swann whips through another over at a cost of two runs that take Warner into the nineties. A brief pause while the batsmen take on some fluids. Great email from Ryan (0745). Maybe we should decide at what point England reach their Chris Read moment?

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    Alan Compton: Prior's having a stinker of a year with bat and gloves. Time for Jonny Bairstow to get his chance.

    Andrew Grills: People criticising Tim Bresnan, do you not realise he outscored all but two of our so-called batsmen?

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  77. 0752: 
    Aus 149-0 (Lead by 283)

    Even Billy Cooper has given up - I haven't heard his trumpet for a good couple of hours. Rogers drives Stokes for a couple.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "Runs aren't the issue for Australia now, it's just how long they will need to bowl England out. They will want another 100 runs tonight, another 100 runs in the morning and then get England into bat."

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  79. 0749: 
    MISSED STUMPING- Aus 147-0

    Swann beats Warner and once again the ball keeps low through Prior's legs. Warner was out of his ground, so technically it's a missed stumping, but it would have been an incredible effort to whip the bails off.


    Ryan in London: The only time which compares (as a low for English cricket) was in 1999 when NZ beat England to relegate England to last place in the rankings. Remember Chris Read ducking what he thought was a bouncer from Cairns and getting bowled for a duck? Actually, that was even worse than this!

  81. 0745: 
    ROGERS FIFTY- Aus 143-0 (Warner 89, Rogers 50)
    David Warner and Chris Rogers

    Rogers gets to his fifty off 116 balls with a gorgeous square drive to the fence. Delight abounds in the Aussie dressing-room, with Steve Smith grinning from ear to ear and Michael Clarke clapping furiously. Lord's in the summer feels a lifetime away.

    Rogers stats: 141 minutes, 116 balls, eight fours.

  82. 0741: 
    Aus 139-0

    Poor keeping from Prior, as the ball keeps a bit low and scoots through his legs and away for four byes. Cook looks predictably unamused. What would he do to be back on his wife's family's farm right now?

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    Kumaran Ravendradas: Dale Steyn and Co destroyed our batting and Amla and Co destroyed our bowling. Our batting also dismantled by Ajmal and Co.

    Moscows_LBW: Ian 'Beefy' Botham was right when he said it would be 5-0...but for the wrong side!

  84. 0738: 
    Aus 133-0 (Warner 87, Rogers 46)

    England's day in a nutshell. Warner edges Stokes's first ball after tea at catchable height through the vacant second slip area. Too short and wide to Rogers, who cuts for four to move within four runs of a fifty.

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    Luke Jones: Time for a new batting coach. Ricky Ponting maybe? He'd love it.

    Paddy Emmerson: Bresnan proving that he is like a handyman trying to do a specialist job, not good enough.

  86. 0735: 
    Aus 128-0

    Swann doesn't heed Aggers' cry and Warner cuts him for a single. Broad is back in the England dressing-room munching on a sandwich. No word yet on the result of the X-ray or whether he will going back out to bowl.

    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "Graeme Swann has to get his length right now, he's bowled too short to the left-handers in this series and has been cut to ribbons."

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  88. 0732: 

    I think I've put my finger on why this is all so depressing from an England point of view, or at least why it feels depressing in a different way. I just can't remember a time when we so consistently failed to score ANY runs. In the 1990s we were prone to collapses, but there was always a Gooch, an Atherton or a Stewart to pop up with a ton here or there. Back then, it was our bowlers who were a bit of a laughing stock.


    John White: For all of this talk of dropping players, I would change the selectors. We have played the wrong XI at the Oval, Brisbane and the Waca - three out of the last four Tests. The players we have picked lack form, ability and heart.

  90. 0730: 

    Time to catch up on another day of misery for England. The tourists lost their last six wickets for just 71 runs this morning as they crumbled to 251 all out, with Ryan Harris and Peter Siddle finishing with three wickets apiece.

    Stuart Broad is currently having an X-ray after being floored by a Mitchell Johnson yorker, and in his absence England are getting flayed to all parts by David Warner, who has scored 81 of Australia's 123-0.

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    Dominic Tovey: This is so much worse than the 2006-07 series. At least the Australia side then was full of world beaters.

    Keith Stewart: Some ridiculous over-reactions here. Anderson, Swann and KP are still great players. It's just been a bad tour. It happens.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
    Chris Rogers, David Warner and Tim Bresnan

    "England will feel dejected. They have created a few opportunities this afternoon but they haven't been able to take them - they've missed a stumping and catch. They will have hoped for a couple of wickets just to retain the faintest hope. What more can go wrong? Not a lot."

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  93. 0711: 
    TEA INTERVAL- Aus 123-0 (lead by 257)

    Just seen Michael Clarke and George Bailey on the balcony, literally pinching themselves that is going so well. Rooty Toot come on for a little twirl before tea and concedes just the one run to Warner.

    And that is tea. The session stats don't make pretty reading for England. Australia scored 123 runs off 34 overs without losing a single wicket. Ouch.

    Bowling figures: Anderson 8-2-29-0, Bresnan 6-0-33-0, Stokes 6-0-29-0, Swann 13-5-31-0, Root 1-0-1-0.


    Full match scorecard

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Losing is part of the game, but it's how you lose the game that matters. When you see people out of form and playing bad shots, it seems like it's never ending. Everyone is disappointed with the performances."

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  95. 0705: 
    Aus 122-0 (Warner 80, Rogers 42)

    Better over from Stokesy. Just a single from it. Come on then, tell me - is this as bad as it gets? Have I just got a short memory?

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    James Wilkinson: Team for the MCG... Cook, Carberry, Root, Bell, Balance, Stokes, Bairstow (wk), Bresnan, Swann, Rankin, Finn. Can't do much worse.

    Chris Butt: How about we promote the Lions squad into the Test side? Gives experience and they can't be worse than the current Test XI.

  97. 0701: 
    Aus 121-0

    I've watched a lot of England cricket over the years and I'm struggling to recall when I last felt as demoralised as this. In 2002-03 there was Vaughan, in 2006-07 there was KP and Collingwood. Here England have nothing. Nobody.

    TV have just shown the Kevin Pietersen dismissal again. Feels like a pretty pivotal moment, although you could say that about most of the England dismissals. Two singles off Swann.

  98. 0658: 
    Aus 119-0 (Lead by 253)

    Rogers is playing a really tidy little support role to Warner here and he is growing in confidence all the time. Stokes overpitches twice and is smacked for four on both occasions.

    Tom Fordyce, Chief sports writer at the Waca

    On Twitter: "Waiting for confirmation that Stuart Broad has been joined at local A&E by Englishmen suffering from crushed spirits and broken hearts."

  100. 0655: 
    Aus 111-0

    Kevin Pietersen is on the boundary moisturising his lips. I suppose he has to get ready for the spotlight - he might be bowling in a minute. Maiden from Swann. Stokes to replace Anderson.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's so hot out there, England will just have to use Joe Root for a few overs. Chris Rogers just needs to pick up ones and twos because David Warner is scoring quick enough for both of them. The scoreboard is rattling over."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

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    The Sun's John Etheridge: When a team is being hammered, there are some things that look faintly ridiculous with the benefit of hindsight. Like 82-page recipe books.

  103. 0650: 
    Aus 111-0 (Warner 79, Rogers 32)

    In fact you could make an argument for Anderson's decline having started well before this tour. Since he took 10 wickets at Trent Bridge in the first Ashes Test, his record is 7 Tests, 19 wickets for 829 runs at 43.47.

  104. 0646: 
    Aus 110-0
    Alastair Cook

    Two more runs to Davey Warner takes Australia to 100. Then he drives Anderson down the ground for four. It's a miserable tour all round, but the total lack of cutting edge being offered by Anderson is the biggest symbol of their decline for me. It wasn't so long ago he was being hailed by Wasim Akram as the best bowler in the world.


    Daniel Roberts, Milton Keynes: Reasons to be cheerful? I'm getting married today to a beautiful lady who has no interest whatsoever in cricket and doesn't even know who Mitchell Johnson is!

  106. 0640: 
    Aus 98-0

    Swann is actually bowling pretty well out there, getting plenty of spin and ripping one past Warner's outside edge.

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    Philip: All dynasties fall. A new era in English cricket looms. Looking past this Ashes pain, it's actually exciting.

    Matthew Ball: Prior is so far gone that England may as well give Bell the gloves and put Prior at fine leg.

  108. 0637: 
    Aus 98-0

    Statler and Waldorf have just been joined on the England balcony by a third grumpy old man - David Saker. Andy Flower is actually looked at the game through a pair of binoculars. It won't look any rosier through those Andy, I assure you.

    Six runs from the Anderson over.

  109. 0634: 
    Aus 92-0

    Swann's overs are going by in a flash out there. Just the one run to Rogers this time. You won't be at all surprised to know that England's body language is awful.


    Dave from the Wirral: Sitting in Manchester Airport departure lounge seething at our inept cricketers when my wife says maybe we needed this. She's right - losing I can take, that's sport, it's the manner and the arrogance I struggle with. Who will they send out for interview tonight, the lad who cleans the kit? As a lad who loves and plays cricket, I can't identify with any of the current team.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "Matt Prior did not move a millimetre and I think it was his catch. He should have gone for it - the ball was between the two of them. Cook reacted late when he realised Prior was not going for it and it was already behind him."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  112. 0630: 
    DROPPED CATCH- Aus 91-0 (Lead by 225)

    The first ball of a new spell from Anderson clocks in at just 80.7mph and is swatted away dismissively by Warner for four. Then he takes three through midwicket.

    A good delivery from Anderson catches the edge and Cook grasses a sharp one-handed chance to his right. That should really have been Prior's catch, but the keeper didn't move a muscle.

    I'm still hunting around for reasons to be cheerful by the way, but I'm not surprised you are scratching your heads to come up with any.

    Text 81111

    Bruce, not an Aussie: Maybe it's Statler and Waldorf on the balcony [0606], with the rest of the muppets out in the field.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "There have been similar situations in all three Test matches - when the pressure is released in the second innings, David Warner capitalises."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  115. 0623: 
    WARNER FIFTY- Aus 82-0
    David Warner hits out

    Warner continues to scorch Bresnan in the Perth sunshine. Two more boundaries here, one square and one over mid-on.

    By the way, on the subject of tosses, a quick bit of BBC research reveals that Andrew Flintoff actually won three out of five tosses in England's 5-0 defeat in 2006-07.

    And according to TMS scorer Andrew Samson, in the history of Test cricket, the team winning the toss has won 728 matches, and the team losing the toss has won 653.

  116. 0620: 
    Aus 74-0

    Swann concedes just a single from his latest over. Interesting chat on TMS about the importance of the toss. Is it time to level the playing field by just alternating which team gets to choose who bats first?

    Join the debate at #bbccricket

    AADZ: Worryingly, the Aussies have Pat Cummins and James Pattinson injured, both are 150kph strike bowlers. Mitchell Starc is also swift with swing.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "A lot of it is about attitude. When things are going well, you have an aggressive and positive attitude and everything continues to go your way."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  119. 0616: 
    Aus 73-0 (Lead by 207)

    There are three red letters beside Stuart Broad's name on the scoreboard: Sub. Bresnan continues his stand-in act by serving up a juicy half-volley that Rogers smacks down the ground.


    Neil, St Petersburg: I don't agree with those saying that Pietersen is finished/should be dropped. He isn't playing these rash shots because he's no longer capable of playing a big innings - he has always played this way, and isn't likely to change now. You take the daft dismissals along with the imperious hundreds, they are part of the same package. Swann on the other hand may struggle to come back from this series - other teams will have seen how Australia have successfully targeted him and taken him apart, and will try to do the same.

  121. 0608: 
    Ben Stokes

    A drinks break gives me a chance to fill you in on today's latest chapter in England's tale of woe.

    The tourists lost their last six wickets for just 71 runs this morning as they crumbled to 251 all out, with Ryan Harris and Peter Siddle finishing with three wickets apiece.

    Stuart Broad is currently having an X-ray after being floored by a Mitchell Johnson yorker, and in his absence England are getting flayed to all parts by David Warner, who has score 47 of Australia's 67-0.

    Get back under that duvet.

  122. 0606: 
    Aus 67-0 (Lead by 201)

    Hang on, is that Andy Flower and Graham Gooch on the England balcony or just an episode of Grumpy Old Men? Warner cuts Swann twice more for four to advance to 47 off 50 balls.

    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "I bet Stuart Broad's hoping for a big queue and waiting time in A&E. He'll be saying 'you can go first'."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  124. 0603: 
    Aus 59-0

    The assault continues. Warner charges Bresnan and smacks him over the top for a one-bounce four. Then he ducks a bouncer and takes a single. Rogers i splaying positively too, lacing Bresnan through the covers for four. Lots of leather-chasing going on out there.


    Paul Richards: I've been in Melbourne for a year now, and was delighted to get tickets for the Boxing Day Test. Now I can't give away my spares, no-one wants to see such a one-sided, predictable game. I like the look of Mr Flavell's team [0530], time for Flower to come good on his promise of making changes when players don't perform.

  126. 0559: 
    Aus 50-0

    Warner. Wow. A huge heave off Swann lands on one of the grassy banks behind the boundary square of the wicket. And here's an unwanted statistic - that is the 100th six Graeme Swann has concede in Test cricket.

  127. 0557: 
    Aus 43-0

    Rogers is growing in confidence out there but so would you be if Ben Stokes was serving you up leg-stump half-volleys. Four more too the old man of this Australian team.

    Tom Fordyce, Chief sports writer at the Waca

    "If you're an England supporter struggling to cope with the incessant pain that this Ashes series has brought, you might not want it pointed out that it's not even halfway through yet. Not for another 14 minutes. A slightly more cheerful number: by the reckoning of a man with greater patience than me, England have now metaphorically held the urn for 1,576 days. Slightly less cheerfully, I'm not sure it'll get past 1,577.5."

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "I wouldn't change all the senior players at once but I think one or two need to go to help with the transition. The difficult one will be Graeme Swann and Kevin Pietersen is the wow factor in this side. England would not have won in India without him, he's got so much talent."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  130. 0553: 
    Aus 39-0 (Lead by 173)

    Swann drops short and Warner pulls him over midwicket for four. Anyone flying out for Melbourne and Sydney.

    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "England could come back and win the next two matches but it's easy to think there could be some big turnover. There are players who have been around for a while and England might look to move them on. Swann, Prior and Pietersen - what will happen to them?"

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  132. 0550: 
    Aus 34-0

    Too short from Stokes and Warner is motoring now, cutting two balls for four. The Barmy Army trumpeter is playing the Hokey Cokey. Gallows humour.

    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "Today was the last opportunity for England to get back into this game and series. You feel that chance has gone now and Australia will bat through into tomorrow and set England a massive target."

  134. 0545: 
    Aus 24-0

    More spin for Swann and a muted lbw appeal from Prior, but not the bowler. There is a horrible sense of inevitability about this match. It is following a very similar trajectory to the first two.

    Text 81111

    PJ, St Albans: It feels like the inevitable end of an era. With the uncertainty of Flower's future, now is time to rebuild completely. KP, Swann, Prior, Anderson to go along with Flower (in Feb) and the redevelopment to start in earnest. This set-up has had a good run but has never been the same since going number one in the rankings.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "Ben Stokes is bowling with good pace, zipping them through and he's getting the ball to shape away from the left-handers. I think he'll be around the England team for many a year. He's having to learn the hard way, in a dressing room which looks deflated."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  137. 0543: 
    Aus 24-0
    Chris Rogers

    Sharp fielding from Carberry at backward point denies Rogers four. Then he gets a quick single to mid-wicket.


    Richard Harris: People need to cut the players some slack. This series should never have been on in the first place - back-to-back Ashes was always going to cause these issues. Trott has gone home, Cook is spent, Pietersen and Swann need a break. It is too much cricket, with the hard tours that came before. Saying Pietersen and Swann should be booted out now is a joke.

  139. 0540: 

    Warner heaves and misses at Swann, but Matt Prior can't hold on to a great stumping chance. There's some sharp spin for Swann as he beats the left-hander's outside edge.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's really difficult for the bowlers, they've not had enough rest. Already in this series they have fielded a day longer than the Australians. The one positive for England is Ben Stokes. He's certainly got talent, they've found a cricketer."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  141. 0536: 
    Aus 22-0 (Lead by 156)

    It's amazing how things can unravel when a team is on tour, especially when injuries start to play a part. If I'd have told you that Ben Stokes would be bowling in the eighth over of the innings in Perth, you'd have thought I was crackers.

    Anyway, he is, so get over it. Rogers accepts the gift of a half-tracker on leg stump and carts it away for four. The last ball is a pearler though, moving away late and beating the outside edge.


    Stuart Flavell: Team I'd like to see for Melbourne - Cook, Carberry, Root, Bell, Ballance, Bairstow, Stokes, Bresnan, Broad, Anderson, Panesar.

  143. 0530: 
    Aus 17-0 (Warner 13, Rogers 4)

    Can things get any worse for England? I suppose the only solace is that they can't lose 6-0.

    Warner takes on the throw of Stokes and gets home comfortably. Then he pulls away moments before Anderson is about to release the ball and gestures as if he has a fly in his eye.

    More Broad-watch - he's in his civvies now hobbling out of the ground and into a waiting car.

    Stuart Broad prepares to leave the ground
    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "We're only operating with two wicket-taking bowlers at the moment - and James Anderson isn't getting many - so I can't begin to imagine what would happen if Stuart Broad went home."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra


    Australian TV network Ten Sport Melbourne: Not for the first time, Stuart Broad is struggling to walk.

  146. 0526: 
    Aus 14-0

    News from the ECB: Broad has gone for an X-ray on his injured right foot.

    Rogers drives, but doesn't quite time the ball and only picks up two runs. Warner cuts for two then gets involved in some handbags with Matt Prior. Warner seems to love to dish it out, but doesn't seem very good at taking it.


    Ben in Devon: Unfortunately what it seems we could do with now is a whitewash. If we come back into the series at all it will help paper over the cracks this team has been showing for a while. They've been a great team but change is needed.

  148. 0520: 
    Aus 9-0 (Lead by 143)

    On tee, David Warner. He drives Anderson on the up over cover for four. Broad is walking around behind the boundary now, wincing with every step.

    Text 81111

    Phil in Wrexham: Never in all my years has the urn been tossed away so tamely with some of the most diabolical, spineless and idiotic cricket ever witnessed in an Ashes series. Words fail me.

  150. 0517: 
    Aus 5-0

    Single to Warner off Bres. Broad is still being put through his paces in the nets by bowling coach David Saker but it's not looking good.

    I've just remembered that Graeme Swann got hit on his spinning finger whilst batting too. I reckon Michael Carberry might be turning his arm over by the end of the day.


    James Wilkinson: A silver-lining? At least with the series gone we have a chance to expose some fresh blood to the Ashes arena. Rankin, Ballance and another chance for Finn perhaps?

  152. 0512: 
    Aus 4-0 (Warner 4, Rogers 0)

    Anderson bowls a maiden to the cautious Rogers. There's very little atmosphere out in the middle, no sense of intimidation or hostility from the England fielders. I hate to say it but I think they have accepted their fate. Come on folks, cheer me up.

    Broad update - he's bowling in the nets at about a quarter pace.

    Simon Mann, BBC Test Match Special

    "Chris Rogers's heart will be pumping. He's been in a winning side but not contributed too much. He will know that you very rarely get another chance if you are dropped at 36 years old."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

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    Richard Powell: Instead of reviewing English cricket at tonight's SPOTY awards, there should just be a minute's silence. Spineless prima donnas.

  155. 0508: 
    BROAD INJURY- Aus 4-0

    Now then, Stuart Broad is not out on the field for England so Tim Bresnan will take the new ball.

    David Warner is looking to tee off from the very start, but almost pulls the first two balls of the over onto his stumps. The third ball comes off a bottom edge and again nearly hits the timbers before running away for four.

    Cameras pick up Broad now - limping off towards the nets then jogging a bit gingerly round the training ground. I think it was the toe-crunching yorker from Mitchell Johnson that did for him.

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    Peter Grieve: Recent form suggests that Cook's team talks aren't very good.

    Kenny MacKenzie: I know Geoff is a typical realist Yorkshireman but really? No chance at all?

  157. 0504: 
    Aus 0-0

    Jimmy comes round the wicket to Chris Rogers. Seems an odd decision because most of the cracks on the pitch are in line with middle and leg. Rogers only needs to play at one ball. Innocuous start from England's finest.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "There is no chance for England. There is nobody who can save England, the way they are playing they are heading for 5-0."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    Join the debate at #bbccricket

    Nic Wirtz: Being out of form for two years isn't a form or confidence issue, it's a talent issue. Every veteran batsman owes an innings.

    Laurie Armitt: Time for KP, Prior and Swann to be dropped even if it is temporary. It might make them see that they have to perform regularly.

  160. 0459: 

    England are in a huddle. Again. Alastair Cook is giving a team talk to his demoralised troops. Again. Backs against the wall time. Again.

  161. 0457: 

    Afternoon all. Sam Sheringham here for the next session and a bit. We've been chatting over lunch about how to manage our disappointment. I guess the best bet is to relive the memories of the last three Ashes series and especially the 2010/11 campaign down under when England won three Tests by an innings. If anything, the difference between the two teams was even greater three years ago.

    Anyone else got any bright ideas for lifting the gloom?

    Tom Fordyce, Chief sports writer at the Waca

    "For all the flair of Johnson, Clarke and Warner, these Ashes and this match has been decided by discipline. England have been consistently loose with the bat; Australia relentless on Saturday and this morning with the ball. For England to save the game and series a mere Cracker at the Waca won't be enough - the Phenomenon in Perth is now required."


    At lunchtime, TMS will be speaking to England women's captain Charlotte Edwards, who's been watching this game in Perth and will lead her side in the Women's Ashes next month - and BBC Radio 4 broadcaster (and keen cricket fan) Peter White.

    Charlotte Edwards & Geoffrrey Boycott

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  164. 0423: 

    Hope you've digested all that. England's performance this morning is enough to give their supporters indigestion. An early lunch has been taken and Australia will begin their second innings in the afternoon session. Sam Sheringham will be in the chair to talk you through the action for that. Here's what TMS have got in store...

    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "This morning was so predictable. You just feel like the fight has gone and it was no surprise to see them swept away."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "For the last few years when England have come up against pace and bounce they haven't been able to get past 300. Every time they come up against a bit of zip they just get blown away and that is a big worry for the England coaching staff.

    "For the third consecutive Test match Australia are going to come out for their second innings with no real pressure."

  167. 0422: 
    WICKET- Anderson c Bailey b Siddle 2 (Eng 251 all out)
    Peter Siddle celebrates after dismissing James Anderson

    And there it is, England's innings is over as James Anderson fends off a short ball to George Bailey at short leg. That gives Australia a first-innings lead of 134 runs.

    Fall of wickets: 1-85 (Carberry 43), 2-90 (Root 4), 3-136 (Cook 72), 4-146 (Pietersen 19), 5-190 (Bell 15), 6-198 (Stokes 18), 7-207 (Prior 8), 8-229 (Broad 5), 9-233 (Bresnan 21), 10-251 (Anderson 2).

    Bowling figures: Harris 22-10-48-3, Johnson 22-7-62-2, Watson 12-3-48-1, Siddle 16-5-36-3, Lyon 16-6-39-1.


    Full match scorecard

    Eng 248-9 (Swann 17*, Anderson 1*)

    James Anderson survives an Australian review for a caught behind and gets off the mark with a scampered single. Graeme Swann is still fighting, helping himself to another couple of boundaries through the off side.

    Eng 237-9 (Trail by 148)

    Poor Graeme Swann is copping some short stuff from Mitchell Johnson now. A yorker is then dug out before the England offie carves another boundary through the off side.

    WICKET- Bresnan c Haddin b Harris 21 (Eng 233-9)
    Ryan Harris celebrates after dismissing Tim Bresnan

    A third wicket for Ryan Harris as Tim Bresnan has a little nibble outside off stump and can't take his bat out of the way before the ball takes an edge and carries through to wicketkeeper Brad Haddin.

    Fall of wickets: 1-85 (Carberry 43), 2-90 (Root 4), 3-136 (Cook 72), 4-146 (Pietersen 19), 5-190 (Bell 15), 6-198 (Stokes 18), 7-207 (Prior 8), 8-229 (Broad 5), 9-233 (Bresnan 21).

    Eng 233-8 (Bresnan 21*, Swann 4*)

    Graeme Swann is up against Mitchell Johnson and, after playing and missing at one, he caresses four through the covers. Lovely.

    Eng 229-8 (Trail by 156)

    Another probing Ryan Harris over, another maiden as Tim Bresnan digs in.

    WICKET- Broad lbw b Johnson 5 (Eng 229-8)
    Mitchell Johnson celebrates after dismissing Stuart Broad

    Another one bites the dust. The perfect yorker from Mitchell Johnson swings into Stuart Broad's foot and the England batsman is a goner. Even Broad won't review that one. Plumb.

    Fall of wickets: 1-85 (Carberry 43), 2-90 (Root 4), 3-136 (Cook 72), 4-146 (Pietersen 19), 5-190 (Bell 15), 6-198 (Stokes 18), 7-207 (Prior 8), 8-229 (Broad 5).

    NEW BALL- Eng 229-7 (Bresnan 21*, Broad 5*)

    Tim Bresnan smashes Shane Watson to the boundary and the Aussies react by calling for the new nut. Big Tim's not too concerned though as he plays back-to-back flashing cover drives for four. Lovely stuff.

    Eng 217-7 (Trail by 169)

    Lovely stuff from Tim Bresnan as he gives a rank long hop the treatment and dispatches Peter Siddle to the boundary.

    Eng 212-7 (Bresnan 4*, Broad 5*)

    Shane Watson is enjoying this - firing plenty of short stuff at a ducking and weaving Stuart Broad. The Notts all-rounder responds with a flowing cover drive for four.

    WICKET- Prior c Haddin b Siddle 8 (Eng 207-7)
    Matt Prior

    Another awful dismissal - this time Matt Prior trys to pull Peter Siddle and gets an under-edge behind to a gleeful Brad Haddin.

    Fall of wickets: 1-85 (Carberry 43), 2-90 (Root 4), 3-136 (Cook 72), 4-146 (Pietersen 19), 5-190 (Bell 15), 6-198 (Stokes 18), 7-207 (Prior 8).

    Eng 207-6 (Trail by 178)

    Shane Watson is brought into the attack to give Rhino a breather before the new ball is handed over in four overs' time. A maiden over, all six balls floated outside off stump. Textbook Watto.

    Eng 207-6 (Prior 8*, Bresnan 3*)

    At least England have avoided the follow-on! Small mercies, I know. Mitchell Johnson is being given an extended run at the England lower order, but surely he won't be allowed to bully the bearded Matt Prior and Big Tim from Yorkshire. Five from the over.

    Eng 202-6 (Trail by 183)

    Tim Bresnan marches out for his first bat of the series with England staring at another batting collapse. Ryan Harris continues to bustle in and Matt Prior helps himself to a single through the off side. Big Tim is off the mark with a gentle push into the leg side which brings three runs and takes England past the 200 mark.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "This has been the worst possible start for England. They are 18-2 and the two batsmen who were in overnight back in the shed. And now the one batsman who has not faced Mitchell Johnson so far is coming out to face him."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    WICKET- Stokes c Haddin b Johnson 18 (Eng 198-6)
    Ben Stokes and Mitchell Johnson

    Oh no. Ben Stokes, moments after seeing a delivery hit a crack and take a wicked deviation towards first slip, sits back in his crease and edges a full ball to Brad Haddin behind the stumps

    Fall of wickets: 1-85 (Carberry 43), 2-90 (Root 4), 3-136 (Cook 72), 4-146 (Pietersen 19), 5-190 (Bell 15), 6-198 (Stokes 18).

    Eng 195-5 (Stokes 18*, Prior 5*)

    Ryan Harris is bowling a spell Glenn McGrath would be proud of here, landing the ball on the Waca cracks and seaming it both ways to a befuddled Ben Stokes. Maiden over.

  184. 0414: 

    Hi everyone, and welcome back. We've been experiencing technical problems but hopefully the gremlins have left us now. Here's what you missed while we were away. It's not good if you're an England supporter...

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    Michael Perera: Dear Santa, please can you create a machine that gives conclusive video evidence in cricket. Thanks, Joe Root.

  186. 0252: 
    Eng 195-5 (Trail by 190)

    Three slips, a gully and a short leg in for the batsman as Mitchell Johnson steams in to Matt Prior. The England wicketkeeper responds by hammering the first ball of the over through the off side. Calypso batting. A couple of bouncers follow which Prior deals with pretty well. Hopefully the Sussex glovesman takes his lead from Brad Haddin in this innings...

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's so important that Matthew Prior follows up his innings in Adelaide with some runs here. If he gets another low score he will have nothing in the memory bank. He needs to be positive but at least allow the ball to get to him, and then play the shot."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra


    Tony Salt: Santa, when we are struggling to save the game on day five could you please send your rain dear?

  189. 0247: 
    Eng 191-5 (Stokes 18*, Prior 1*)

    Matt Prior marches to the crease with England on the ropes. Time to counter-attack? Top-notch bowling from Ryan Harris though because he nipped a couple away from Ian Bell before cannoning one into the Warwickshire batsman's pads. Prior gets off the mark with a single into the covers.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "I thought it was going to be an umpire's call because of the bounce you get at the Waca. But it was all red on the replays and that is a massive wicket. Bell is the one player that the Australians really fear. The last thing England needed was to lose a wicket when the ball is 70 overs old. That's a huge blow."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  191. 0242: 
    WICKET- Bell lbw b Harris 15 (Eng 190-5)
    Australia celebrate the dismissal of Ian Bell

    Possibly the one entry in this live text commentary every England fan didn't want to see this morning. Ian Bell goes, with replays showing the ball was going on to smash into the batsman's stumps. Aussies cock-a-hoop - and they get a new ball in less than 10 overs.

    Fall of wickets: 1-85 (Carberry 43), 2-90 (Root 4), 3-136 (Cook 72), 4-146 (Pietersen 19), 5-190 (Bell 15)

    Harris's figures: 16.3-7-32-2


    Full match scorecard

  192. 0241: 

    An early worry for England. Ryan Harris jags one back into Ian Bell's pads and goes up for a strong appeal. Umpire Erasmus says not out but Rhino reviews it...

  193. 0240: 
    Eng 190-4

    Mitchell Johnson to Stokes. The Durham man cracks two off the back foot, then another two off the front. Good start for the lad.

  194. 0233: 
    Eng 186-4 (Bell 15*, Stokes 14*)

    The flags flutter in the Perth breeze as Ryan Harris kicks us off by landing the ball on a sixpence. Ian Bell is happy to watch a couple sail through to the keeper before he gets the scoreboard ticking by squeezing two through the off side. He then plays and misses with an extravagant cover drive before ending the over by tickling four down the leg side.

    Tom Fordyce, Chief sports writer at the Waca

    "Once again it's so hot at the Waca that even cold-blooded creatures like snakes and journalists are fighting over the scraps of shade. The only game any sensible individual would want to play in this is water polo, preferably in an air-conditioned indoors."


    Jon, TMS inbox: "Kevin Pietersen - Dear Santa, please can I have a bottle for Christmas because Geoffrey says I haven't got any."

  197. 0228: 

    Let's hope for England's sake that it doesn't swing too much, Ed. Anyway, we'll soon find out because the umpires are making their way to the middle followed by the Australians and lastly the two England batsmen. D-Day part three is upon us.

    Ed Smith, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
    Michael Carberry, Ian Bell and Graeme Swann

    "It has been a humid and hazy morning, which means it might be muggy and the ball might swing a bit more."

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    Ed Smith, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Yesterday will have done Ben Stokes a lot of good. If he had been dismissed, everyone in the ground would have said the Ashes had gone. He stayed in there and has protected Ian Bell and Matt Prior. It was a gutsy performance and he will develop quite quickly if he faces such tough circumstances like that regularly."

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special
    Waca pitch

    "The cracks on the pitch will play a part in this match. Alastair Cook had two balls which moved yesterday when the bowlers managed to hit the crack. As a bowler, my strength was my accuracy. I could land it well and if there was a crack I wanted to hit I would be pretty close. It does get into the batsman's mind. It all comes down to execution."

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    Rory Simpson: Dear Santa, can you magic us up a 25-year-old Ian Botham please? Yours, Andy Flower.

    Ben Stokes?...

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    Here is our first attempt at a 'Dear Santa':

    Santon Claus: Dear Santa, if you need an assistant I've been giving gifts away for the past month. KP.

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    Kevin Pietersen's dismissal detracted from the DRS controversy surrounding Joe Root.

    The West Australian newspaper says DRS was not to blame for Root's departure, rather the man operating the technology. In this case, third umpire Tony Hill.

    Meanwhile, speaking to Sky Sports, former England captain Michael Atherton says the Root decision was correct because there was no clear evidence to overturn it.

    Away from the cricket, former England coach David Lloyd said "just call me Pep" after leading the English media to a 3-2 football win over their Australian counterparts.

  204. 0218: 

    Australia bowling coach Craig McDermott says the hosts will continue to employ Peter Siddle as a specialist bowler against Kevin Pietersen. The Aussie quick has removed the English batsman 10 times in Tests.

    "Sids continues to get Pietersen out," said McDermott. "He bowls very tight lines to him, and it's patience. He was four off 40 balls - digging himself a fair hole, from my perspective.

    "Then he started playing a shot a ball. Sids has tied him down time and time again, and then the release valve comes - and he cracks him open.

    "It's working for us at the moment. So we'll carry on, unless he changes his way of batting."

  205. 0215: 

    Yes, after his inexplicable pull shot to mid on off Peter Siddle last evening, Kevin Pietersen has been taking some flak.

    Geoffrey Boycott came off his long run to lambast Pietersen, saying he "bottles it" when asked to bat with patience and concentration.

    Former England skipper Michael Vaughan waded in to say that Pietersen deserves criticism.

    For his part, Pietersen took to Twitter to thank fans for messages after he passed 8,000 Test runs. He wrote: Thank you for the v kind msgs on passing 8000 runs. Loving this journey! You guys are great.

    Perhaps he hasn't heard what Geoffrey said...

    Kevin Pietersen
    Ed Smith, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "You'd rather be in Australia's position and have the runs and today's first session is absolutely pivotal. It depends on who is at the crease when Australia take the new ball. They don't want to expose their tail to a fresh Mitchell Johnson. Today would be a great day for the tail to wag."

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  207. 0210: 

    BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew praised Australia's bowlers after the second day in Perth, saying they have proved their is more to the attack than Mitchell Johnson.

    "Ryan Harris and Peter Siddle bowled out of their skins on an unresponsive pitch in stifling, 40 degree heat," said Aggers.

    "They dried up the runs, were aggressive without resorting to silly sledging and produced tough, uncompromising Test cricket.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's a big moment. It was hard-fought, good old-fashioned cricket yesterday. England looked in a good position but Australia bowled well and stuck to their plans. If England can survive the first hour and keep the scoreboard ticking over they are in the game. It's level pegging at the moment - Australia can set it up and England can try and build a first-innings lead."

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    Whatever happens today, I'm relying on you good folk to hold up your end of the bargain and keep in touch via the usual channels. While England battle it out in the heat of Perth, let's write to Santa on behalf of all international cricketers. I'll kick us off with Ben Stokes - Dear Santa, please could I have a maiden Test century in Perth for Christmas? - and then you can craft your own. Feel free to be as creative as you want and send them to us on Twitter (#bbccricket), text (81111) or email (

  210. 0205: 

    Already 2-0 down in the five-match series, the task facing England is bigger than David Boon's beer chiller. Replying to Australia's 385 all out in Perth they are 180-4, with Ian Bell, Ben Stokes and Matt Prior their last recognised batsmen. If the tourists can somehow get close to Australia's total, it's game on. Fail and it's game over.

  211. 0202: 

    The Perth Sunday Times has already written off England's chances of retaining the Ashes. But Alastair Cook's men are going to prove them wrong. Right?

    Perth Sunday Times
  212. 0200: 

    We'll reach the halfway point of the 2013-14 Ashes series midway through the afternoon session today. By then, we'll have a decent idea whether England have any chance at all of retaining the urn.

    If England are still batting at that point, they are still alive and kicking. If they have been bundled out and are chasing leather in the field, we might as well kiss goodbye to the Ashes.

    It might have felt like it on days one and two of this Test, but surely today is D-Day for England.

    Go hard or go home.

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Live Scores - Australia v England


  • Australia beat England by 150 runs
  • Australia: 385 & 369-6 (87.0 overs)
  • England: 251 & 353 (103.2 overs)
  • Venue: Perth

England 2nd Innings

All out
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Cook b Harris 0
Carberry lbw b Watson 31
Root c Haddin b Johnson 19
Pietersen c Harris b Lyon 45
Bell c Haddin b Siddle 60
Stokes c Haddin b Lyon 120
Prior c Haddin b Johnson 26
Bresnan c Rogers b Johnson 12
Swann c Smith b Lyon 4
Broad not out 2
Anderson c Bailey b Johnson 2
Extras 6w 13b 13lb 32
Total all out 353

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